DVI HDMI

[TNT]

i have my laptop hooked up to my HDTV yet when i set the laptop to its normal res. its to smalle to read normal type on the TV, yet videos are fine. also the screen "viberates" on some color combos/patterns?

help!!

[Pimp Racer]

First of all what res is the TV on? What cable are you using to connect your Laptop to your HDTV? Another thing what kinda Video card do you have?

[TNT]

ummm i am using a Pure|AV by belkin cable which runs DVI (laptop) to HDMI (TV), video card is a ATI Mobility Radeon 9700, this is what it says under displays on my laptop.


Displays:
Color LCD:
Display Type: LCD
Resolution: 1440 x 960
Depth: 32-bit Color
Built-In: Yes
Core Image: Supported
Mirror: On
Mirror Status: Hardware Mirror
Online: Yes
Quartz Extreme: Supported
KP27DT296U:
Resolution: 1920 x 1080 @ 60 Hz
Depth: 32-bit Color
Core Image: Supported
Interlaced: Yes
Main Display: Yes
Mirror: On
Mirror Status: Master Mirror
Online: Yes
Quartz Extreme: Supported
Rotation: Supported
Television: Yes

this is my TV:
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=7601491&st=insigian+27''&lp=10&type=product&cp=1&id=1130981881933

[Pimp Racer]

ummm i am using a Pure|AV by belkin cable which runs DVI (laptop) to HDMI (TV), video card is a ATI Mobility Radeon 9700, this is what it says under displays on my laptop.


Displays:
Color LCD:
Display Type: LCD
Resolution: 1440 x 960
Depth: 32-bit Color
Built-In: Yes
Core Image: Supported
Mirror: On
Mirror Status: Hardware Mirror
Online: Yes
Quartz Extreme: Supported
KP27DT296U:
Resolution: 1920 x 1080 @ 60 Hz
Depth: 32-bit Color
Core Image: Supported
Interlaced: Yes
Main Display: Yes
Mirror: On
Mirror Status: Master Mirror
Online: Yes
Quartz Extreme: Supported
Rotation: Supported
Television: Yes

this is my TV:
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=7601491&st=insigian+27''&lp=10&type=product&cp=1&id=1130981881933


Well I am not so sure but I think the problem is you have everything maxed out. Try something lower such as outputting to 720p instead of the 1080p if thats what you are doing.I think thats why you get screen flickers as well.

[TNT]

but when i take it off of the higher settings it crops the screen. and its still hard to read the fine print on the screen. but i can't get its to fit on the TV and be clear.

[Pimp Racer]

but when i take it off of the higher settings it crops the screen. and its still hard to read the fine print on the screen. but i can't get its to fit on the TV and be clear.

Hmm....I am assuming you are using your Mac notebook? I dont think that has S-Video correct? Usually I just use S-Video. Never tried this HDMI DVI mess.

Try something like 1024 X 720 something Resolution with a high refresh rate. I have no clue on how you do shit in Mac so I might be just telling you things that would not help at all. Hope that fixes it.

[TNT]

no i have tried every res. it crops the screen of the laptop. and only really 800x600 looks clean yet agian it wont fit my laptop screen or the TV. now haveint it maxed makes it fit on the screen about 95% of it. to give you an idea the M in Pimp Racer to the end of QUOTE is what i see on my tv. however i can not read the text very well.

[Jabba]

Find out the native resolution of your TV, then make sure that the connections you are using support it, hdmi or DVI would be best, if your laptop cant match the tv's native resolution exactly then use something like powerstip to provide you with it.

[TNT]

How would i find out the native res. of my tv? and what is a powerstrip?

also the tv is CRT

[Pimp Racer]

According to the Best Buy link you gave me

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=7601491&st=insigian+27'' &lp=10&type=product&cp=1&id=1130981881933


Your TV's native resolution I THINK is 1080i

One question though. Can you on a MAC have 1080i on your TV as the resolution and 1024 or something like 800 X 600 on the MAC? Or is it like whatever is on the laptop is on the TV. If its like that then thats a bit fucked up IMO.

[RC45]

This is why I waited until I found the 1080p TV i dreamed of at a reasonable price... compromise would not have been worth it ;)

[Jabba]

How would i find out the native res. of my tv? and what is a powerstrip?

also the tv is CRT

Powerstrip is a programe that can give you extra display resolutions if you need them.

It would seem you would need to select 1920x1080 though, acording to the info supplied by pimp racer.

[ae86_16v]

^ Actually I don't think it has 1080 vertical res. I think it is 1080i upscaled.

So you need to find out how many pixels your TV has and then set your video card to the same. . .

Or try this:

Go to System Preferences -> Displays -> Click Detect Displays under the "Display" Tab.

See if that works.

[TNT]

well when i try and detect using the "display" panel it doesn't show anything after i click it. but i understand the res. thing but its just finding out what my TVs native res it. then to set the laptop to match and that should clean it up?

[Pimp Racer]

This is why I waited until I found the 1080p TV i dreamed of at a reasonable price... compromise would not have been worth it ;)

Ya that TV is something to give for man. I experienced the first gen of those I think? Just pure badass in all it 50 or 60 inch glory.

How would i find out the native res. of my tv? and what is a powerstrip?

also the tv is CRT

Powerstrip is a programe that can give you extra display resolutions if you need them.

It would seem you would need to select 1920x1080 though, acording to the info supplied by pimp racer.

Jabba I think he is using a MAC and I think powerstrip is not compabilate with MAC. Its a neat program though man thanks for the link! I also like their irotate program.

ts just finding out what my TVs native res it. then to set the laptop to match and that should clean it up?

Correct.

[ae86_16v]

well when i try and detect using the "display" panel it doesn't show anything after i click it. but i understand the res. thing but its just finding out what my TVs native res it. then to set the laptop to match and that should clean it up?

Yeah, Apple doesn't know the display or doesn't have information on that display.

I googled it briefly and couldn't dig up any resolution information for that TV.

Check out http://discussions.apple.com/index.jspa maybe you will find something there.

[TNT]

cool thanks.

[TNT]

hey guys sorry to bring this back up but i found out that the res. is 1080 veritcal lines

http://www.insignia-products.com/pc-108-1-insignia-27-flat-tube-hdtv--silverblack.aspx

yet what program could i use to get my laptop to get to 1080? (i am on a Mac)

my options now are 640x480, 720x480, 800x500, 800x600, 1024x640, 1024x768, 1152x720, 1280x800, 1440x960.

[ae86_16v]

TNT, really?!? The 27" TV has 1080 lines? Wow.

And when you plug in the TV and you go into the Preference window, you do not see the new resolution?

[TNT]

no nothing new. not for the laptop.

[ae86_16v]

Try either one of these:

SwitchResX or DisplayConfigX

Heard that DisplayConfigX is easier to use though.

[subhir]

I think its related to your progressive / interlaced scan.

I am not sure but I don't think that DVI supports interlaced. But I am just guessing here.

[TNT]

Try either one of these:

SwitchResX or DisplayConfigX

Heard that DisplayConfigX is easier to use though.

well the thing with DisplayConfigX is you have to pay to be able to keep your settings yet i haven't be able to find where to pay for it and/or how much it is. i will try the other one.

[TNT]

well i used that other program and i set them on the same res setting 1280x960 yet its still not clear. not properly fitting the screen i am getting to the point of thinking i wasted a lot of money on that damn cord. :|

[ae86_16v]

well i used that other program and i set them on the same res setting 1280x960 yet its still not clear. not properly fitting the screen i am getting to the point of thinking i wasted a lot of money on that damn cord. :|

No no, set it to the setting of the resolution on your TV.

Maybe 1280 x 1080? Or 1440 x 1080? Well what options do you have to set it at X by 1080?

[Pimp Racer]

Hmm....I think I know what your problem is.

The TV's Res is 1920 X 1080

While the MAC's Res is 1440 X 960.

And if what I think is rite in MAC you must have your MAC at the same res as TV and TV as same RES as MAC, and the MAC cant go up to 1920 so it is trying to do 1440 X 960 and your TV tries to do 1440 X 960 and everything is messed up. But if you put 1280 or 1024 by XXX on the MAC and same RES on TV it kinda looks readable but not perfectly clear.

[ae86_16v]

^ No, that should not be the case though. When you load up System Preferences for Displays, there would be two dialog boxes that comes up. So you could switch resolution independently for each display.

If it is a regular 4:3 aspect ratio TV and you are sure that the vertical lines are 1080, then horizontal should be 1440.

So your TV should be 1440 x 1080, and that will be 4:3.

[RC45]

ummm i am using a Pure|AV by belkin cable which runs DVI (laptop) to HDMI (TV), video card is a ATI Mobility Radeon 9700, this is what it says under displays on my laptop.


Displays:
Color LCD:
Display Type: LCD
Resolution: 1440 x 960
Depth: 32-bit Color
Built-In: Yes
Core Image: Supported
Mirror: On
Mirror Status: Hardware Mirror
Online: Yes
Quartz Extreme: Supported
KP27DT296U:
Resolution: 1920 x 1080 @ 60 Hz
Depth: 32-bit Color
Core Image: Supported
Interlaced: Yes
Main Display: Yes
Mirror: On
Mirror Status: Master Mirror
Online: Yes
Quartz Extreme: Supported
Rotation: Supported
Television: Yes

this is my TV:
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=7601491&st=insigian+27''&lp=10&type=product&cp=1&id=1130981881933

What is the "Mirror" option?

I know on all mu NVidoa cards, "mirror" places the same display on both devices at once... the resolutions would be the same and you scroll around the TV if the PC res is higher than the TV supports (CRT TV) or the TV forces the image to display if some type of LCD.

Does the video card have a different option? I don't recall the option on NVidia (havent done this in a while) but there is one where you specify full screen video goes to the "other" diplay and you simply set the 'other display" properties to its maximum spec.

Then maybe ATI just sucks ;) :P

[ae86_16v]

^ Oh shit. RC45 and PimpRacer is right, I didn't even see that. Turn off Mirror.

The Radeon 9700 has the option of either Mirroring or Displaying independently.

Shit sorry about that TNT, I should've looked at that closer. Yeah PimpRacer got it right in the beginning, you need to turn off mirroring so your resolutions aren't the same.

And set the res on the TV to 1920 x 1080. (It looks like that the Mac recognized it from the start. I just didn't freaking read :oops: .)

[TNT]

ok cool thanks guys i will try that out tonight sometime