Forza 2 - me making trouble on their forums..

[RC45]

http://forums.forzamotorsport.net/forums/36228/ShowThread.aspx#36228

;)

[nthfinity]

LOL

can you say ultimate pwnage on a 20 yr. old fanboy gamer's site?

And this is how I enjoy my real-life driving - Thats me chasing down the CTR 'Yellowbird' in the RT12..
:twisted:

I'm tempted to join the forza forums myself...

[TopGearNL]

LOL!

RC at work :lol:

[redbaron]

LOL

I think they are now talking to other fanboys about their new friend who is rich, has all consoles and has the biggest collection of Porsches :wink:

[Pimp Racer]

Damn RC you are one crazy mofo! Great job done! :lol: Now go make some more trouble on their fourms and while yer at it go to that GTR forum too lol. :twisted:

[ARMAN]

HAHAHAHA :lol: :lol: :lol:

[RC45]

Damn RC you are one crazy mofo! Great job done! :lol: Now go make some more trouble on their fourms and while yer at it go to that GTR forum too lol. :twisted:

Dont get too comfy - I have the GTHD forums in my sights next ;)

[RC45]

LOL

I think they are now talking to other fanboys about their new friend who is rich, has all consoles and has the biggest collection of Porsches :wink:
The funny thing is, i have been a member of that forum longer than most of those yahoos ;) hehe - I normally just read and bite my tongue :P

[SFDMALEX]

go to that GTR forum too lol. :twisted:

What is you got to hate on there about?

[Pimp Racer]

Damn RC you are one crazy mofo! Great job done! :lol: Now go make some more trouble on their fourms and while yer at it go to that GTR forum too lol. :twisted:

Dont get too comfy - I have the GTHD forums in my sights next ;)

Nice..I wanna see how this one turns out.

go to that GTR forum too lol. :twisted:

What is you got to hate on there about?

Nothing really. Its actually a pretty damn good game and hell I think I even got a demo for that game for the PC VIA download. (Unless it was the first version)
I dont hate GTR or Forza, I just want to see what RC would say againt the games.

Hell Forza has its ups such as customize the car looks and what not while GTR has the great physics and GT has the massice amounts of cars. No game is perfect. :D

[RC45]

Other than the "instant skid and spin" school of tyre grip, I have no beef with PC sims ;)

[RC45]

LOL

I think they are now talking to other fanboys about their new friend who is rich, has all consoles and has the biggest collection of Porsches :wink:

You called it spot on :P hehe

Did not take them long to get all bitter and jealous.. ;)

http://forums.forzamotorsport.net/forums/ShowThread.aspx?PostID=36320#36320

[Max Power]

haha, they didn't know who they were dealing wit 8)

[dons5]

ya the low speed tyre characteristics is supposedly the hardest part to get right in terms of the tyre model/physics, other then that PC Sims are by far the best, seriosuly Forza and all the Grand Turismo games including GTHD are not actual sims compared to the PC ones like RFactor, Netkar Pro, Live For Speed, etc. Although i cant say anything about Forza 2 cause i havent played it yet.

[RC45]

ya the low speed tyre characteristics is supposedly the hardest part to get right in terms of the tyre model/physics, other then that PC Sims are by far the best, seriosuly Forza and all the Grand Turismo games including GTHD are not actual sims compared to the PC ones like RFactor, Netkar Pro, Live For Speed, etc. Although i cant say anything about Forza 2 cause i havent played it yet.

I just wish PC sims would have photorealsitic graphics, then I could abandon the consoles for good ;)

[twboy1999]

i htink u just pissed them off
lol

[RC45]

BTW - welcome the Forza Forum lurkers.
You are more than welcome to step up and join the conversation - just be prepared to have to back up any bullshit with facts ;) :P

[nthfinity]

I hope they do, but really, i think only that one guy is upset, and I have yet to figure out why... we are mearly aiding in the data pool for the Forza team if they do check out the forum, right?

[SFDMALEX]

LOL RC you got booked, they found this thread lol

[RC45]

LOL RC you got booked, they found this thread lol
All the better - I wasn't hiding anything form those kids ;)

Now where is that link to the GTHD forum?? :P

Hey - where are all the Forza Forum lurkers?

Come one guys - register and post up your messages - thereads don't get locked for silly reasons here ;)

[acmarttin]

You're too much, RC.

Funny ass thread on the Forza forums though :D

I guess they weren't ready for you. Bwahahahaha.

[nthfinity]

THey are all just pissy... its odd, they were actually (well, one or two of them) before "Busting" us (were we hiding?) that we both come from JW? I mean... It's the quickest bandwagon jump i've seen since Michael Moore grabbed a the torch for the conservitively challenged all those years ago.

[Max Power]

haha, yet another forum JW has left a mark on... 8)

[RC45]

Yeah - the outcome is not quite what I had in mind - although I really am not sure what I was imagining the result of me running over there and pissing them off would be -- but it kept us entertained for a couple hours ;)

[Ghostbat]

Ha ha. You go RC!

[RC45]

Your a troll RC.... :wink:

You busted me.. I'm basement dwelling troll... :P

[Vitamin J]

Goddamn you guys need to get a life. Just to set the record straight, you're not the only one who likes to visit race tracks. While you do track days, I do wheel to wheel racing. I'm envious of your Porsche experience and your Z06 for sure, but then again I'll turn 20 in March.


Look, if you want to come and chat about cars and racing, that's awesome. But if you want to be an insufferable troll, look elsewhere. We like Forza for more reasons that realism. We like the number of cars, the number of tracks, the tuning and upgrading options, the endless customization and we like how easily we can access all these features through one of the most user-friendly interfaces ever in a racing game. We like racing other people over Xbox Live and sharing set-ups and secrets. I could give two shits about graphics, I don't have an HD TV and I don't plan on getting one any time soon.

[ZfrkS62]

sharing set-ups and secrets.

uhh..they aren't really secrets if they're being shared now are they?

your whole post reeks of a last attempt to save face before running off to your room to cry :lol:

While RC may not be the only one there who spends time on the track, the fact is most of these racing game players are just that. They have no idea how to control a car in real life and probably think that if they got on the track, they'd instantly become michael schumacher.

Now a lot of you are getting all pissy for no real reason at all. he merely pointed out some of the game's short comings, and everyone came unglued, started mouthing off without knowing anything about who they were trying to insult, and ended up getting owned. So if you really think about it, the ones who need lives, aren't on this forum :wink:

[Vitamin J]

What he did was say that Forza 2 will be shit because it doesn't support 1080p and H-Gate shifters. That's not true. Forza 2 will be awesome just like Forza 1.

It may not be a full-on sim like many PC sims, but that's ok because the physics will all be there, the cars will all be there, the driving models will all be there, just not the 3rd pedal, shifter, and high resolution graphics.


Also, I was able to run sub-2 minutes around Laguna Seca my first time ever on track because I had raced it in Forza and knew the line and how fast the corners were in relation to eachother..

[RC45]

What he did was say that Forza 2 will be shit because it doesn't support 1080p and H-Gate shifters. That's not true. Forza 2 will be awesome just like Forza 1.
Welcome aboard.. stay a while ;)

Forza 2 will suck because of the short comings - period.

Will I buy it - yes. Why - because there is not much else I can play on the XBox360 Micro$haft convicned me to buy as the game platform to end all game platforms ;)


It may not be a full-on sim like many PC sims, but that's ok because the physics will all be there, the cars will all be there, the driving models will all be there, just not the 3rd pedal, shifter, and high resolution graphics.

But the Xbox360 is sold a "next gen" console to use "next gen" controller, and "next gen' graphics.. right?


Also, I was able to run sub-2 minutes around Laguna Seca my first time ever on track because I had raced it in Forza and knew the line and how fast the corners were in relation to eachother.

Hmmm.... you don't think having any driving talent and potential had anything to do with it?

[RC45]

Well - looks like that Turn 10 clown who runs the place banned me.

http://forums.forzamotorsport.net/forums/ShowThread.aspx?PageIndex=8&PostID=26948

Strange he labelled me "a disingenuis troll", yet everything presented was factual and acurate.. I guess the KoolAid swilling punks who work at Turn 10 are the biggest fanboys this side of PlayStation land ;)

Meh - if thats the way the "PR Guy' for Forza2 behaves, no wonder the title is late, full of holes and barely pushed 4 year old graphics levels.

:)

[TopGearNL]

Well - looks like that Turn 10 clown who runs the place banned me.

http://forums.forzamotorsport.net/forums/ShowThread.aspx?PageIndex=8&PostID=26948

Strange he labelled me "a disingenuis troll", yet everything presented was factual and acurate.. I guess the KoolAid swilling punks who work at Turn 10 are the biggest fanboys this side of PlayStation land ;)

Meh - if thats the way the "PR Guy' for Forza2 behaves, no wonder the title is late, full of holes and barely pushed 4 year old graphics levels.

:)

They're just kids RC :wink:

[ZfrkS62]

Ah, JW..the closest thing to the real world you can get on the net :lol: and this thread proves it :lol:

[Max Power]

haha, hey that gives u a whole week to terrorize GTHD forums

[Vitamin J]

Well, you didn't get banned for posting your opinions and point of view. You got banned for stirring the shit and causing controversy. You could have presented your opinion more positively.

[Vitamin J]

wtf, keeps giving me 403 when i post

[Vitamin J]

Back to Forza for a second. I think you overestimated Forza a tad. Just like Forza 1, FM2 won't be an all-out simulator. It will support wheels, pedals, force feedback, multi-screen displays, etc. It just won't take it to the next level like you want. This doesn't make it bad, it just means that there are other things to focus on, like customization, tuning, upgrades, classes, and most importantly; racing online with 11 other people.

Regardless, I think you're a pretty cool guy RC, and I'd love to hear more about your Vette. Z06's are definitely one of my all-time favorite cars (I'd give a kidney for a C6 Z06). Also, once I get 25 posts (i don't get that rule) I'll post up my pictures and videos from Laguna Seca.

[nthfinity]

25 posts is seriously no time here at JW... and for a site as large as JW, spamming is an issue, and makes the admin's job that much easier with all the custom hacks here :)

Welcome to Jabbasworld Vitamin :)

I've wondered how the corkscrew really feels, even if its not as dificult as turn 4 in the various sims, and ps/xbox games etc. It sure beats the tighter road courses we have here... and mid ohio isn't that close, unfortunately.

[Vitamin J]

Turn 3 of Laguna is pretty tough, you really got stay out to the right side of the track until the absolute last second, then lift/dab of braking and turn in quick. If you don't hit the very end of the inside rumble strip you'll understeer right into the gravel.

Turn 4 is flat out in a Spec Miata if you hit it just right, it's decieving so lots of people either go too fast or slow too much, it's a perfect corner for passing. It's also a late apex that's gotta be taken just right.

[RC45]

Well, you didn't get banned for posting your opinions and point of view. You got banned for stirring the shit and causing controversy. You could have presented your opinion more positively.

See that's the rub, I didnt exactl go in saying anything that wasn't already being said and posted - but it didnt' go down well with the locals - who were a little more angry than I was ;) But it's over now - and funny how even though I offered the truce y'alls little Hitler over there still had to have a say :P

Back to Forza for a second. I think you overestimated Forza a tad. Just like Forza 1, FM2 won't be an all-out simulator. It will support wheels, pedals, force feedback, multi-screen displays, etc. It just won't take it to the next level like you want. This doesn't make it bad, it just means that there are other things to focus on, like customization, tuning, upgrades, classes, and most importantly; racing online with 11 other people.

Well - this is true, but to prevent Forza2 from being lost in the see of NFS:Carbons and RidgeRacers etc it would have been nice to have seen Forza go at least halfway to the next level.

But Turn 10 is in the business of making a profit, and "games" outsell simulators by a factor of hundreds - so thats just the way of the world.


Regardless, I think you're a pretty cool guy RC, and I'd love to hear more about your Vette. Z06's are definitely one of my all-time favorite cars (I'd give a kidney for a C6 Z06). Also, once I get 25 posts (i don't get that rule) I'll post up my pictures and videos from Laguna Seca.
Yeah - we would LOVE to see you stuff posted - bring it on.. this is the place to bring real world driving exploits and discuss all things auto and hobby ;)

I do find it odd though, that Turn 10. Forza amd Micro$haft even have the 'Forza Series' TV short they are working on, yet fall so short in the realism of the whole package. :) But it is what it is, and they know we'll will spend money either way.

[RC45]

Here it is - the first email sent to me in anger by a Microsofteee ;)

I feel whole now... All we need to do is find a forum managed by a Sony/PD employee... ;)





>From: <********@microsoft.com>
>To: <********@hotmail.com>
>Subject: (Forza Motorsport Forums) Email from chespace
>Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2007 13:51:45 -0500
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>lArrivalTime: 09 Jan 2007 18:51:47.0902 (UTC)
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>This email was sent from a user at Forza Motorsport Forums. Replying
>to this email will be sent back to the user via normal
>email.
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>Sent From: chespace
>Subject: Banned
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>RC45, I'm giving you a week's ban for disingenuous trolling. It's not
about drinking the kool-aid -- we know Forza 2 isn't going to make
everyone happy, and that's okay -- it's about showing your fellow forum
members courtesy and contributing to a community with constructive
comments and/or discussion. You have done neither, and hence, should
take a break from FM.net.
>
>
Thanks.
>
>

[ViperASR]

you disingenuous troll :wink:

[RC45]

JW might have gotten a new member who are into the same as us...you run a strange campaign to recruit people RC.... :lol:

It's like the Recces and other special forces... you must want to stay, and make it through Hell Week.....

[Minacious]

I never understood why people get so bent out of shape during these friendly debates.

Keep up the good fight guys.

[666fast]

I never understood why people get so bent out of shape during these friendly debates.

Keep up the good fight guys.

People don't generally like having something they like being called crap. :lol:

I'm on the whatever side. I'll buy the game cause I'm sure it'll be fun. If I wanted 100% realistic handling and such, I'd go for a drive.

[dm_h_2007]

I play all the racing games that come out. I play the realistic ones like TOCA3, GT Legends, GTR2... and the not so realistic like RalliSport Challenge, PGR2, etc. I still like Forza the best of all of them. Sure it’s not as realistic as GTR2 but it’s a great game and the online play was fantastic. Forza 2 will be the game I buy a 360 for. That is unless it’s just really poorly made and does not live up to the first one.

[TopGearNL]

JW might have gotten a new member who are into the same as us...you run a strange campaign to recruit people RC.... :lol:

It's like the Recces and other special forces... you must want to stay, and make it through Hell Week.....

LMAO!

Bootcamp! I think RC is that Drillsergeant from Full Metal Jacket :lol:

http://www.eps.mcgill.ca/monteregian/_files/movies2_files/drill-sergeant.jpg

[ViperASR]

I never understood why people get so bent out of shape during these friendly debates.

Keep up the good fight guys.

People don't generally like having something they like being called crap. :lol:

I'm on the whatever side. I'll buy the game cause I'm sure it'll be fun. If I wanted 100% realistic handling and such, I'd go for a drive.

Thats what im talking about

[RC45]

I never understood why people get so bent out of shape during these friendly debates.

Keep up the good fight guys.

People don't generally like having something they like being called crap. :lol:

I'm on the whatever side. I'll buy the game cause I'm sure it'll be fun. If I wanted 100% realistic handling and such, I'd go for a drive.

Thats what im talking about

Then as long as the marketing types and fanboys don't keep insisting it's going to be the be all and end all ;)

[ViperASR]

I never understood why people get so bent out of shape during these friendly debates.

Keep up the good fight guys.

People don't generally like having something they like being called crap. :lol:

I'm on the whatever side. I'll buy the game cause I'm sure it'll be fun. If I wanted 100% realistic handling and such, I'd go for a drive.

Thats what im talking about

Then as long as the marketing types and fanboys don't keep insisting it's going to be the be all and end all ;)

As for marketing thats how you sell your product. And remember, the N64 was the all and end all. Technology changes dude, things get better over time. And the H-shifter is still new technology, and its probobly too late to adopt it, I dont know much about programming, but I do know that even something like that can't be easy.

And fanboys are fanboys. Even you are turning into a little PS3 fanboy :wink:

[RC45]

As for marketing thats how you sell your product. And remember, the N64 was the all and end all.

N64 was never claimed to be able to do stuff it couldn't - the games were on cartridges and youhad a controller.


Technology changes dude, things get better over time.

WHy you telling me this?


And the H-shifter is still new technology, and its probobly too late to adopt it,

No its not - it may be new to budget controllers, but is not new. PC games have supported it ever since controls were assignable - you can setup a joy stick as a shifter in a decent simulation.


I dont know much about programming, but I do know that even something like that can't be easy.

Its a piece of piss to pull off.. that means easy - youeither decide to support aassignable controls, or you don't.

Forza2 is suffering from being developed by and for Microsoft - nothing open about it - the XBox360 is a closed proprietary system - doesn't even support USB properly for God's sake.


And fanboys are fanboys. Even you are turning into a little PS3 fanboy :wink:

Kiss my arse futher mucker :P - I have had an XBox for a long time - if I was a fanboy I wouldn't be calling Sony out on their screw up to not license FFB and their insistance on complying with DRM tech requirments.

Besides houthg - the PS3 is a better device - period. Easy to use, more intuitive, and an over better value.

Thats not even counting the games yet.

MS have stated No HD-DVD games, and No internal HD-DVD drive, no direct HDMI either.
That measn the XBox360 is not the device I thought I bought - the "ultimate entertainment box"

It's just a game console.. :P

[ViperASR]

No its not - it may be new to budget controllers, but is not new. PC games have supported it ever since controls were assignable - you can setup a joy stick as a shifter in a decent simulation.

Yea, but its really easy to adopt something for a PC because you pop in a CD, dl a program and then bam, it works. Microsoft made it to where you couldnt do that on the 360. Does that suck, hell yea it does. But it dosnt make Forza 2 any less of a cool game

[RC45]

No its not - it may be new to budget controllers, but is not new. PC games have supported it ever since controls were assignable - you can setup a joy stick as a shifter in a decent simulation.

Yea, but its really easy to adopt something for a PC because you pop in a CD, dl a program and then bam, it works. Microsoft made it to where you couldnt do that on the 360. Does that suck, hell yea it does.

That's their problem - not mine.



But it dosnt make Forza 2 any less of a cool game

Actually it does. As an XBoxFanBoy360 you don't see that.

[ViperASR]

Actually it does. As an XBoxFanBoy360 you don't see that.

hey, im not fanboy. I'm just sticking up for the game. Ur the PS3 fanboy, if I had a buck for every post about u showing off the PS3 and talking about how great it is, id be rich. I do give you credit in that you do admit some of the faults of the PS3.

And I do admit alot of the faults of the 360, like the fact that mine is back with Mr. Gates as we speak right now. I know forza wont be god, but it will still be a damn good racing game. You need to stop bashing it, if you hate it so much, dont buy it.

[Daggernite]

Im off to bed now so I have'nt read this thread from begining to end. Therefor this question is probably answered?

But Forza 2 isn't out yet, so how can people be debating on if its good or not?
As for 360 vs PS3, neither one does anything better than the other as far as I can see. And can I just say that I've had the Nintendo Wii a few weeks, Zelda is awesome, but the stupid remote is crap.

But yeah, I know all of us here will be getting Forza 2, its not going to be bad is it. Probably just could be better like every other driving game thats come out.

Good night JW

[RC45]

The biggest weakness - and this is HUGE, is the lack of a decent (read that as a Logitech USB wheel) wheel for the XBox and XBox360 :)

No game can be more than a just a fun toy with controller or a poor wheel.

Take a look at GT3 and GT4 - for all their shortcomings, a decent steering wheel makes up for a lot. If PGR3 could have a decent wheel, even with its arcade physics it would be 100x better ;)

Many folks are into the "game" - for me its the "drive", and youdont drive with a controller ;)

[ViperASR]

The biggest weakness - and this is HUGE, is the lack of a decent (read that as a Logitech USB wheel) wheel for the XBox and XBox360 :)

amen to that. I have a Sidewinder wheel that I would love to use on the 360, but Mr Gates wont let me use it. IT SAYS MICROSOFT ON IT!!!! I already bought it from you, let me use it on ur stuff!!!

[RC45]

LMAo...

these Forza Forum clowns are still at it.. not satisified with "banning" me... Ooooohhh.. I feel so rejected now ***barf*** they are now deleting my posts ;0


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Subject: Re: What cars do you think they should put in the game?

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All these "wishlist" requests for "real ordinary cars" yet there is no clutch or
h-gate shifter available for the console - exactly how do you propose to
"realistically" enjoy this "simulator" if all you have is a game console pad and
poor immitation FFB steering wheel with paddles?
I fear Sony and PD may fall just as short with GT5 - as they might not think the
average "Joe" wants to heel and toe or left foot brake or down shift skipping 3
gears either.. ;)
How come no-one holds Turn 10 and Microsoft to a decent standard.. a mediocre PC
can out simulate these "next gen' consoles.
This is not what we were told would be the case... we were told "next gen"
console "simulators" would be the real deal.
That being said, back on topic - and decently modelled 3 pedal stick shift
sports car would do nicely thanks ;)
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I guess the true Forza2 fan really might not actually even have a drivers license after all ;) -- why else would they be so offended by a request for a clutch pedal and a shifter ? :P

Hey drows.. come hang out here at forum discussing real cars.. ;)

[novass]

^^ LMAO It seems you have made quite the impression.

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[ViperASR]

^^^^
lol, I guess they dont want anyone dissing their games on their forms. and you might want to use a better translator from Texan to american :wink:

I think part of it might be your obsession with H-gate shifters. I imagine they are cool as hell, and I agree that they would help make it more realistic. But to most people, regular wheels work just fine. And simulators are just that, simulators. If I wanted something to be real, I would go hop in my car and take a drive, or go to a track event.

Also, you might be comming across as a bit rude in your opinions :wink:

IMO, these games do not need to have H-gate wheels and such to be good games. Good graphics and realistic dynamics (not NFSish) are good enough for me. These are games are good enough for what I'm looking for.

[RC45]

^^^^
lol, I guess they dont want anyone dissing their games on their forms. and you might want to use a better translator from Texan to american :wink:

I think part of it might be your obsession with H-gate shifters. I imagine they are cool as hell, and I agree that they would help make it more realistic. But to most people, regular wheels work just fine. And simulators are just that, simulators. If I wanted something to be real, I would go hop in my car and take a drive, or go to a track event.

Also, you might be comming across as a bit rude in your opinions :wink:

IMO, these games do not need to have H-gate wheels and such to be good games. Good graphics and realistic dynamics (not NFSish) are good enough for me. These are games are good enough for what I'm looking for.

Its the fact taht if they haven't bothered to make the XBox360 (a Microsoft product) and Forza2 (a Microsoft product) be the show pieces they are supposed to be - then WTF even bother in the first place?

Oh - and I wasn't trying to be polite in my opinions either.

Seriously - they are not being "polite" in their marketing of the system or the game - both are for profit.. not friendship or fraternity - but for profit.

And in the end, the game (Forza2) and the platform (XBox360) is barely able to do what a 4 year old PC and driving game can do.

That is the point.

Their product sucks and is very far below par, but is being presented as "cutting egde" and it is not..

But sadly it is also the best on offer for the XBox360.

All in all a piss poor showing for 2007.

[Pimp Racer]

LMAo...

these Forza Forum clowns are still at it.. not satisified with "banning" me... Ooooohhh.. I feel so rejected now ***barf*** they are now deleting my posts ;0


Your post was deleted by Drows.

Subject: Re: What cars do you think they should put in the game?

Reason: Hello,

You attempted to submit the following post to the Forza Motorsport Forums
Forums:
__________________________________________________ ______

All these "wishlist" requests for "real ordinary cars" yet there is no clutch or
h-gate shifter available for the console - exactly how do you propose to
"realistically" enjoy this "simulator" if all you have is a game console pad and
poor immitation FFB steering wheel with paddles?
I fear Sony and PD may fall just as short with GT5 - as they might not think the
average "Joe" wants to heel and toe or left foot brake or down shift skipping 3
gears either.. ;)
How come no-one holds Turn 10 and Microsoft to a decent standard.. a mediocre PC
can out simulate these "next gen' consoles.
This is not what we were told would be the case... we were told "next gen"
console "simulators" would be the real deal.
That being said, back on topic - and decently modelled 3 pedal stick shift
sports car would do nicely thanks ;)
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I guess the true Forza2 fan really might not actually even have a drivers license after all ;) -- why else would they be so offended by a request for a clutch pedal and a shifter ? :P

Hey drows.. come hang out here at forum discussing real cars.. ;)

LMAO!!! That shit makes perfect sense to me. I guess you are rite this forza fanboy must not even have his driver liscense as he doesnt even know WTF a clutch, and stick shift is. lol

Either way its gonna be an "alright" game I suppose I mean 200 cars...and 40-55 something track according to them and only 14 real race tracks........wait I take that back its gonna suck actually.

Some of the these real race tracks include the ring, tsukuba, and languna seca, i think road atlanta? and a FEW more.....

I dont see how they are gonna be a racing sim if they dont have real tracks...

Also RC did you see their latest pitpass report or some shit like that? They said the game is now runing close to perfect at 60 FPS...BUT they didnt say what resolution...more than likely at just 720i or 720p. I'd be amazed if they can get full HD without the upscaling bullshit and still fit it all on one DVD9 :lol: It still doesnt sound like enough features I mean just 200 cars and 50 something tracks and only 14 are real? Come on thats some crazy shit.

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RC I think GTR will be way better than Forza even though its only based on racing cars whereas forza on race and regular cars.

What do you think will suck more Forza or GTR for the 360?

ALthough GTR is fun on the PC....I dont know about on the 360..

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RC I think GTR will be way better than Forza even though its only based on racing cars whereas forza on race and regular cars.

What do you think will suck more Forza or GTR for the 360?

ALthough GTR is fun on the PC....I dont know about on the 360..

The problem is on the PC we have decent wheels (DFP and G25 to name only 2) that we use with GTL, GTR and GTR2 and rFactor etc.

So GTR for the XBox360 without a decent wheel is not going to appeal to existing GTR fans... sadly.