Canada is a rip off

[Max Power]

Everything u buy here will cost 2x the amount you could get in the states, and even if u do manage to find something in the US that they'll ship here, the import tax will kill any profit u think u may have made...

for instance I was going to order a sway bar from www.hyundaipartsonline.com where it would cost 69.15 US, compared to 180.57 CAD from a dealer here...but they don't ship to Canada...so I'l have to buy it for almost 3x the cost....

or I bought a plasma from the states...1600 compared to 3200 here...same tv, warranty and I got a free stand with it...

but I paid 600 import tax...

This country is based around ripping u off...lets face it US>Canada :(

[Stoopie]

Yeah but I learnt that already by watching South Park

http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2006/06/blame_canada_1.jpg

[Max Power]

not to mention alchohol prices, car prices, golf course fees, hockey tickets, just some of the things that I've been getting ripped off for .... :|

[ldin]

blame canada?

http://www.snn-rdr.ca/snn/old/march2000/march2000/images/blame_canada.gif

[Max Power]

sure i will, because its the gov't that's protecting these assholes by setting the tarrifs so that u can't import shit...so u r forced to buy canadian...which is either shit or way overpriced

[BADMIHAI]

If you hate it so much, do something about it. Move to the States, if you think they have it so good. Buy your nice car and get jacked by some nigga who doesn't have money to eat because their welfare and healthcare is shit. Go ahead! Do it! Also, if you fuck up and lose your job, you're fucked there. Go ahead! Try it!

[Max Power]

^^^

i didn't use the word hate...and u r focusing only on steriotypical shit...

well if you were in Montreal, I would buy it for you and bring it up when I visit there. which might be this coming new years or sometime in Jan!!

nah its cool, just venting

[RC45]

If you hate it so much, do something about it. Move to the States, if you think they have it so good. Buy your nice car and get jacked by some nigga who doesn't have money to eat because their welfare and healthcare is shit. Go ahead! Do it! Also, if you fuck up and lose your job, you're fucked there. Go ahead! Try it!

Wow - you're back to angry bad I see... girlfriend on the rag again?

[BADMIHAI]

^^^

i didn't use the word hate...and u r focusing only on steriotypical shit...



So are you, you illiterate fucktard. Those taxes go to keeping our streets clean, our schools free and our universities cheap. Did I mention they provide us all with free healthcare? How much would you have to pay/month in the States just to get medical insurance?


RC: I told you I have no problem with the rag. The rage comes from deep within my soul.

[Max Power]

:fist: suck cum

health insurance can be provided by your job

[BADMIHAI]

Suck American shit. :fist:

[Max Power]

gladly but i can't get it shipped here

[BADMIHAI]

Go down to Detroit and pick it up. Just make sure you don't get stabbed, white boy.

[Max Power]

i will, nigga

[BADMIHAI]

:fist: suck cum

health insurance can be provided by your job

Then you better not lose that job.
There's pros and cons to having larger taxes. At least I can walk the streets without being afraid some fucktard crackhead will rob me.

[Max Power]

why walk when you can drive

[Stoopie]

Damn guys loosen up! We've got Harry Potter for a president, what can I say :D

[BADMIHAI]

why walk when you can drive


I guess there you can choose between getting mugged and getting car-jacked. Your choice, buddy. I'd rather pay the $3200 for the plasma TV.

[Max Power]

but if u get it jacked in the US u can buy another one and still keep more money than if u bought it here...

except here, u r already guranteed to get jacked

[Stoopie]

And btw, I've got to say that the only thing good out of Canada is Steve Nash :D

[Max Power]

who plays in the states, cause he knows its better there, same with Lemeiux, Sakic, Gretz, Jim Carrey, or any other famous canadian

[TopGearNL]

Southpark says it all :mrgreen:

Only good thing that came out of Canada were the men that liberated Holland in the 2nd WW :wink:

[BADMIHAI]

It all depends if they shoot you aswell. Plus, getting jacked can't be much fun; unless it's being done by a hot girl and it involves K-Y Jelly.

[Max Power]

in 2005 in The Economist, Pittsburgh shared with Cleveland the top spot for most liveable cities in the United States
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pittsburgh,_Pennsylvania

since that's where i'd want to live i don't c that big of an issue

[RC45]

RC: I told you I have no problem with the rag. The rage comes from deep within my soul.

Yeah - but her moods don't :P (or so I hear... never had experience with the "moody" type ;) )

[BADMIHAI]

Well, Vancouver is the best place in the world to live in:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/4306936.stm

Canada overall is a better country to live in than the U.S.

For almost a decade (up to the year 2001), Canada was ranked number one among 175 countries in the United Nation's Quality of Life survey.



Here's a link to HDI: http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0778562.htmlhttp://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0778562.html
Canada is #6, U.S. is #8.
Go ahead! Move to the U.S.! There will be one more job for an immigrant who struggled to be here and appreciates what he has.

[Max Power]

I will, just out of spite

[BADMIHAI]

Good riddance, says I!

[Stoopie]

Southpark says it all :mrgreen:

Only good thing that came out of Canada were the men that liberated Holland in the 2nd WW :wink:

True too, and Steve Nash!

http://www.nba.com/media/suns/steve_nash_050412_220.jpg

[BADMIHAI]

RC: I told you I have no problem with the rag. The rage comes from deep within my soul.

Yeah - but her moods don't :P (or so I hear... never had experience with the "moody" type ;) )


Come on! You married a hot blooded latina. There's no way you haven't been through crazy times. :lol:

[BADMIHAI]

Nobody has to. It's a forum. It's open to anyone dumping their opinion.

[ARMAN]

Also, if you fuck up and lose your job, you're fucked there. Go ahead!

how is it in Canada if you lose your job?

[Stoopie]

Also, if you fuck up and lose your job, you're fucked there. Go ahead!

how is it in Canada if you lose your job?

They bomb the Baldwins.

[BADMIHAI]

Also, if you fuck up and lose your job, you're fucked there. Go ahead!

how is it in Canada if you lose your job?

You get unemployment, which is decent. Then you go on welfare, wich is also decent. They even provide you with government-subsidised housing, which in most cases is a pretty nice townhouse. You get plenty of clothes, food, etc. You can even afford to run a car. You know, it keeps you from living like a dog so you don't go around mugging people. Furthermore, you still get the free healthcare so if you're on welfare you're not fucked if you break a leg.

[RC45]

Also, if you fuck up and lose your job, you're fucked there. Go ahead!

how is it in Canada if you lose your job?

You get unemployment, which is decent. Then you go on welfare, wich is also decent. They even provide you with government-subsidised housing, which in most cases is a pretty nice townhouse. You get plenty of clothes, food, etc. You can even afford to run a car. You know, it keeps you from living like a dog so you don't go around mugging people. Furthermore, you still get the free healthcare so if you're on welfare you're not fucked if you break a leg.

So what exactly is the motivation to et off your arse and go get a job then?

Oh - btw, how much income tax do you pay when you eventually do get around to finding a job? ;)

[BADMIHAI]

Tax is around 40%. The motivation to get off your arse and get a job is to get a a plasma TV obviously. :roll: :mrgreen:

[RC45]

Tax is around 40%. The motivation to get off your arse and get a job is to get a a plasma TV obviously. :roll: :mrgreen:

So when you eventually get around to getting a job - you have to then give 40% of what YOU make to the government - just so some othe rlazy arsehole can get a free ride.

Explain to me again how that is motivation?

Oh - and don't you also pay road tax, sales tax, property tax etc?

So it would seem you give more than half of what you make back to the government.

And who pays this 40%? People who make minimum wages or only those pulling more than $150,000 a year? ;)

[BADMIHAI]

Tax also depends on income bracket, yes. You also pay property and sales tax. I know of no road tax.

[ARMAN]

I am sorry MIHAI but this is worse than socialism, "encourage those who dont do a shit" :roll: If you have no food - go to work for it making valuable exchangable production, have nowerere to live - go to work for it making valuable exchangable production.
So now it is basically if you go to work and work your ass off the goverment will rip YOU off by taxes to pay a house and food for some fat dumb sonofabitch who is enjoying the fruits of beeing unemployed... and you would agee with that??? :shock:

[BADMIHAI]

It's better than me paying less tax and having that lazy motherfucker who now can't eat stab me for my wallet, yes. Plus, just because I pay a lot of tax doesn't mean I can't still enjoy the fruits of my work.

[ARMAN]

I would understand goverment to take my money to pay someone who have lost his health due to some heavy accident and is totally disabled or someone who is diabled from the birth or seniors who worked all theyr life and from they taxes was supported people who couldnt really work for a good reason.
BUT even if someone is retarded or had some injury and IS capable to work and do all to get a "free money"(read money from my and your pocket) from goverment fuck no he get my support! If he can move his arms and can do some kind of work he should work! No lunch for free.
Thats one of the main reasons why socialism have NO future, it simply cannot work forever like this, the ones who get ripped for working theyr asses off will rise sooner or later.

[RC45]

It's better than me paying less tax and having that lazy motherfucker who now can't eat stab me for my wallet, yes. Plus, just because I pay a lot of tax doesn't mean I can't still enjoy the fruits of my work.

So - according to you, Canada has no poverty or crime?

[ARMAN]

It's better than me paying less tax and having that lazy motherfucker who now can't eat stab me for my wallet, yes. Plus, just because I pay a lot of tax doesn't mean I can't still enjoy the fruits of my work.

Imagine you have a business - a small company. You have lets say 10 people who are good at what they do but one of them do shit, is lazy, comes late, have production that have no value cause he's work is done badly. The answer - will you keep him in your company or you will kick his ass out and dont give a shit about him paying his mortgage and bills and stuff? If you leave him in - you destroy your company cause the other 10 wokers will not like that forsure nether will you. Goverment is the same but in a bigger scale.

Dont know how much you get involved in the working process yet MIHAI, people will not work on the max if they got simply ripped off of the money they have made with they own hard work, you just cannot be motivated if you know you are ripped thats where "ahh I give a shit why would I do more?" attitude is born. And thats no way a attitude that will make a company or country financially healthy.

[TopGearNL]

Tax is around 40%. The motivation to get off your arse and get a job is to get a a plasma TV obviously. :roll: :mrgreen:

So when you eventually get around to getting a job - you have to then give 40% of what YOU make to the government - just so some othe rlazy arsehole can get a free ride.

Explain to me again how that is motivation?

Oh - and don't you also pay road tax, sales tax, property tax etc?

So it would seem you give more than half of what you make back to the government.

And who pays this 40%? People who make minimum wages or only those pulling more than $150,000 a year? ;)

Its 60% in Holland guys :roll:

[BADMIHAI]

It's better than me paying less tax and having that lazy motherfucker who now can't eat stab me for my wallet, yes. Plus, just because I pay a lot of tax doesn't mean I can't still enjoy the fruits of my work.

Imagine you have a business - a small company. You have lets say 10 people who are good at what they do but one of them do shit, is lazy, comes late, have production that have no value cause he's work is done badly. The answer - will you keep him in your company or you will kick his ass out and dont give a shit about him paying his mortgage and bills and stuff? If you leave him in - you destroy your company cause the other 10 wokers will not like that forsure nether will you. Goverment is the same but in a bigger scale.

Dont know how much you get involved in the working process yet MIHAI, people will not work on the max if they got simply ripped off of the money they have made with they own hard work, you just cannot be motivated if you know you are ripped thats where "ahh I give a shit why would I do more?" attitude is born. And thats no way a attitude that will make a company or country financially healthy.


Last time I checked, it was slightly healthier than Czech Republic. I don't agree with communism, but I see the benefits of having some socialism. In the end, let the statistics talk. Canada is ranked higher than the U.S. on the human development index. Norway is ranked #1 and they're so socialist they should replace that cross on their flag with a red star.

[RC45]

So again, there is no crime or poverty in Canada?

[BADMIHAI]

There is. It just fades away when compared to that in the states.

[nthfinity]

LOL @ human development index LOLOL

this is why canada produced the highest per/capita of Billionaires in the world; the most per/capita entrapanuers, and highly skilled workforce.... right? you also have the greatest per/capita GDP? right?

and you cannot base the whole of the USA on Detroit.... which is in Michigan, which is 50th out of 50 right now in terms of the state economy. Yet... Detroit isn't that bad. I've never been mugged in Detroit, Everso, who went to school near dowtown; but actually a worse location part of detroit, yet had never been mugged. I've had my car stolen; but that is what insurance is for.. I was not "car jacked" as I was not in the car.

I see you have no love of trying to better yourself.

clearly, it makes NO sence to buy something @ 3200$ when you are already paying 40% in tax right off the pay check before you get a chance to tax yourself locally through entertainment purchasses.

and to think that your health care system works LOL.... is that why there are so many Canadians who buy thier pharmacudicals in Michigan, and have doctors in Michigan? you might be surprised by those stats...

and... i'm 100% sure T O has much higher rate of being mugged then Detroit. you are simply racist, like David Duke.

I have to remind myself that I'm arguing against a guy who says that a superior track time doesn't mean a car is the superior handling car when compared against similar cars.

[ARMAN]

The original definition od the word economics was "the art of how to run the house or a household", if you simply apply the socialistic methods in running your household it will collapse sooner or later. Time shows if it works or not.
Ofcourse its not only about paying lazy bitches when they dont work what economics stands on there are more things but only this is one of the major points just look at the Russia, it was one of the countries that had very high level of living one too then socialism came. Its not politics it just common sence.

[BADMIHAI]

LOL @ human development index LOLOL

this is why canada produced the highest per/capita of Billionaires in the world; the most per/capita entrapanuers, and highly skilled workforce.... right? you also have the greatest per/capita GDP? right?

and you cannot base the whole of the USA on Detroit.... which is in Michigan, which is 50th out of 50 right now in terms of the state economy. Yet... Detroit isn't that bad. I've never been mugged in Detroit, Everso, who went to school near dowtown; but actually a worse location part of detroit, yet had never been mugged. I've had my car stolen; but that is what insurance is for.. I was not "car jacked" as I was not in the car.

I see you have no love of trying to better yourself.

clearly, it makes NO sence to buy something @ 3200$ when you are already paying 40% in tax right off the pay check before you get a chance to tax yourself locally through entertainment purchasses.

and to think that your health care system works LOL.... is that why there are so many Canadians who buy thier pharmacudicals in Michigan, and have doctors in Michigan? you might be surprised by those stats...

and... i'm 100% sure T O has much higher rate of being mugged then Detroit. you are simply racist, like David Duke.

I have to remind myself that I'm arguing against a guy who says that a superior track time doesn't mean a car is the superior handling car when compared against similar cars.


You're 100% sure? What, are you fucking kidding me?

A shittier handling car can have more grip than a better handling car and that will give it a better laptime. God, how can you live with your stupidity? For a so-called intellectual, you sure are a thick motherfucker. Just because you have more millionaires and antrepreneurs does not mean the standard of living is better there. Statistics prove me right and you wrong. Now go put another alarm on your car.



and... i'm 100% sure T O has much higher rate of being mugged then Detroit. you are simply racist, like David Duke.


The above quote has to be framed on the Wall of Ignorance.

[ARMAN]

Can you post a link with some official stats MIHAI?

[RC45]

You're 100% sure? What, are you fucking kidding me?

A shittier handling car can have more grip than a better handling car and that will give it a better laptime. God, how can you live with your stupidity? For a so-called intellectual, you sure are a thick motherfucker. Just because you have more millionaires and antrepreneurs does not mean the standard of living is better there. Statistics prove me right and you wrong. Now go put another alarm on your car.

This angry tyrade seems that of a lost argument.

BTW - if the "perfect" Canadian system produces poverty and crime, it can't be that good.. can it?

[nthfinity]

You have obviously never been to Detroit.

first off, the car with the suprior balance (not overall grip) is going to always be faster around a track. If you think otherwise, you are stupid; and have no experience in a sportscar. you are just kidding yourself.

after doing some research, TO is less then i thought. I did, however find the stat I was looking for; however, it wasn't comparing mugging/theft/robbery etc.

and Mihai, nearly every post of yours the last few days are worthy of the "wall of ignorance" you suggested. You have absolutely no understanding of physics, the physics of cars, economics, capitlolism, socialism, life.

Edit:
Why was this prick un-banned anyway?

[nthfinity]

Can you post a link with some official stats MIHAI?

http://www.statcan.ca/Daily/English/050721/d050721a.htm

it seems that some crime rates are dropping in urban areas, wheras; perhaps due to government subsidies; in the more rural areas, crime is on a dramatic rise! living in such areas, many cannot support themselves on such rediculous taxes, i assume; and the gov. doesn't "care" about them too, right? meh

also, it seems that violent crime is on a dramatic rise amoung youth in Canada... and moving away from fists, and towared knives and other weapons... what system does the gov. have for those kids?

from my understanding; there is becoming more and more organized crime in the immigrant families in cities like TO... in fact, comparable to NY, or Chicago even...

[BADMIHAI]

You have obviously never been to Detroit.

first off, the car with the suprior balance (not overall grip) is going to always be faster around a track. If you think otherwise, you are stupid; and have no experience in a sportscar. you are just kidding yourself.

after doing some research, TO is less then i thought. I did, however find the stat I was looking for; however, it wasn't comparing mugging/theft/robbery etc.

and Mihai, nearly every post of yours the last few days are worthy of the "wall of ignorance" you suggested. You have absolutely no understanding of physics, the physics of cars, economics, capitlolism, socialism, life.

Edit:
Why was this prick un-banned anyway?


You have no understanding of the English language. WTF is capitolism? You just can't get it through your thick head that a car's handling is about how much fun you can have with the car. It's when the back starts to slide and you can keep that drift going without the car spinning. That's what handling is all about. It's about creating understeer and oversteer on demand, not going through a corner at 100 mph. It's what British sports cars are all about. Watch Top Gear more often and you'll understand what I'm talking about.

It's sad none of the Canadians on this board want to support their country.
I never said Canada is perfect. I just said it's a better place to live in than the United States. Economists seem to agree with me on this point.

[nthfinity]

You have obviously never been to Detroit.

first off, the car with the suprior balance (not overall grip) is going to always be faster around a track. If you think otherwise, you are stupid; and have no experience in a sportscar. you are just kidding yourself.

after doing some research, TO is less then i thought. I did, however find the stat I was looking for; however, it wasn't comparing mugging/theft/robbery etc.

and Mihai, nearly every post of yours the last few days are worthy of the "wall of ignorance" you suggested. You have absolutely no understanding of physics, the physics of cars, economics, capitlolism, socialism, life.

Edit:
Why was this prick un-banned anyway?


You have no understanding of the English language. WTF is capitolism? You just can't get it through your thick head that a car's handling is about how much fun you can have with the car. It's when the back starts to slide and you can keep that drift going without the car spinning. That's what handling is all about. It's about creating understeer and oversteer on demand, not going through a corner at 100 mph. It's what British sports cars are all about. Watch Top Gear more often and you'll understand what I'm talking about.

It's sad none of the Canadians on this board want to support their country.
I never said Canada is perfect. I just said it's a better place to live in than the United States. Economists seem to agree with me on this point.

LMAO
good handling and sideways. Go to japan you D1 wierdo LOL AHAHAHAHAHAHA

and, about the economists agreeing with you? I guess thats why so many nobel lauriets come from Canukistan... oh wait... that was the University of Chicago LOL

[BADMIHAI]

and, about the economists agreeing with you? I guess thats why so many nobel lauriets come from Canukistan... oh wait... that was the University of Chicago LOL

Yes, that was pertinent to your point. Your point was to prove to us how stupid you are, right?


You want facts motherfuckers? Click the link and go to page 219.
Read 'em and weep.

http://hdr.undp.org/reports/global/2005/pdf/HDR05_HDI.pdf

[ARMAN]

You want facts motherfuckers? Click the link and go to page 219.
Read 'em and weep.

http://hdr.undp.org/reports/global/2005/pdf/HDR05_HDI.pdf

i am probably thick, what does it say on that page? how it is connected with anything we discuss here?

[nthfinity]

and, about the economists agreeing with you? I guess thats why so many nobel lauriets come from Canukistan... oh wait... that was the University of Chicago LOL

Yes, that was pertinent to your point. Your point was to prove to us how stupid you are, right?


You want facts motherfuckers? Click the link and go to page 219.
Read 'em and weep.

http://hdr.undp.org/reports/global/2005/pdf/HDR05_HDI.pdf

which has nothing to do with the ablity and encouragement for personal responsibility, and individual success.

The Human Development Index (HDI) is a comparative measure of life expectancy, literacy, education, and standards of living for countries worldwide.

which has nothing to do with economics; just look at the life expectancy for your "answer" and anybody who is intellegent can see that clearly, a good, and happy life doesn't depend on how long you live.

in both the other catagories, we are equal, or US is vastly ahead of you... even with 300,000,000 people.... vs. your what... 20-30 million? or are you at 50? i dont know. You also dont have the southern border issue with illlegals finding thier way and staying here; often not enrolling in school. go figure, yet somehow, in annual income, we are wayyyyyyy above you.

so, economists DONT agree with you, and HDI actually ends up meaning nothing. go figure.

[BADMIHAI]

Standard of living: The Standard of living refers to the quality and quantity of goods and services available to people and the way these services and goods are distributed within a population. It is generally measured by standards such as income inequality, poverty rate, real (i.e. inflation adjusted) income per person. Other measures such as access and quality of health care, educational standards and social rights are often used too.

Holy shit! I guess that everything to do with what we're talking about over here. It reflects how "good" it is to live in a certain country. Statistics show it is better to live in Canada than in the United States. Until you can prove otherwise, or that changes, you can nibble on a penis.


Arman: You can't run a government like you would run that company. If you fire that one guy, are you gonna let him starve? He's not gonna starve or let his family starve. He's gonna come after you and your employees and rob you so he can feed himself and his family. Remember, it's not that easy to move from one country to another and there will always be unemployed, unless you go to a communist model.

EDIT: I still can't believe there are no Canucks defending their homeland. Drop them hockey sticks and pick up this fight, fellas!

[Al Fucking Gore]

Standard of living: The Standard of living refers to the quality and quantity of goods and services available to people and the way these services and goods are distributed within a population. It is generally measured by standards such as income inequality, poverty rate, real (i.e. inflation adjusted) income per person. Other measures such as access and quality of health care, educational standards and social rights are often used too.

Holy shit! I guess that everything to do with what we're talking about over here. It reflects how "good" it is to live in a certain country. Statistics show it is better to live in Canada than in the United States. Until you can prove otherwise, or that changes, you can nibble on a penis.


ok.
Your goods, and services are further taxed, which increases their cost, and out of pocket costs; no?
your average income level is also significantly lower; which leads to less economic freedom, and a lower standard of living, no?
your simply an economic n00b

[RC45]

It's ok.. you get free housing, car , clothes and food in Kanukistan.

[ARMAN]

Remember, it's not that easy to move from one country to another and there will always be unemployed, unless you go to a communist model.

LOL tell me about it :D

I personally dont care to throu him out if he is ruining my company, IF he wants to do better work and fix all the crap after his lousy work than I can give him a chance, that would be his motivation. But I am not paying from my money him sitting at home that I would pay too, feeding his children who will look at him as an example(thats what children do - copy a parent) and will be same lazy bitches just like he is. If I will agree with that socialistic way then I peronally basically encorage him to do nothing. Do I help him by this - no, I am helping to destroy his life cause he is loosing his ability's to handle his own life.

[BADMIHAI]

Standard of living: The Standard of living refers to the quality and quantity of goods and services available to people and the way these services and goods are distributed within a population. It is generally measured by standards such as income inequality, poverty rate, real (i.e. inflation adjusted) income per person. Other measures such as access and quality of health care, educational standards and social rights are often used too.

Holy shit! I guess that everything to do with what we're talking about over here. It reflects how "good" it is to live in a certain country. Statistics show it is better to live in Canada than in the United States. Until you can prove otherwise, or that changes, you can nibble on a penis.


ok.
Your goods, and services are further taxed, which increases their cost, and out of pocket costs; no?
your average income level is also significantly lower; which leads to less economic freedom, and a lower standard of living, no?
your simply an economic n00b

You are simply a moron who can't read. Read over the whole definition of Standard of Living and tell me where its sole determinant factor is the amount of goods and services you can buy with the dough you earn. Before you take me on and call me an economic noob, you should consider taking economics 101 and not sleeping through it. I'm not only saying you shouldn't sleep through it because your wallet might get stolen. You might actually learn something.

[novass]

Did I mention they provide us all with free healthcare?

Werent you just complaining about that in another topic? That your back was screwed up and you had to wait four months to see a doctor?

[BADMIHAI]

Did I mention they provide us all with free healthcare?

Werent you just complaining about that in another topic? That your back was screwed up and you had to wait four months to see a doctor?


Shhh! Don't mention that! It might ruin my stance. :lol: It's actually to see a specialist, not a general physicial. I went for a check-up yesterday with no appointment and had to wait only 10 minutes. I'm going to physio now.

[Al Fucking Gore]

Standard of living: The Standard of living refers to the quality and quantity of goods and services available to people and the way these services and goods are distributed within a population. It is generally measured by standards such as income inequality, poverty rate, real (i.e. inflation adjusted) income per person. Other measures such as access and quality of health care, educational standards and social rights are often used too.

Holy shit! I guess that everything to do with what we're talking about over here. It reflects how "good" it is to live in a certain country. Statistics show it is better to live in Canada than in the United States. Until you can prove otherwise, or that changes, you can nibble on a penis.


ok.
Your goods, and services are further taxed, which increases their cost, and out of pocket costs; no?
your average income level is also significantly lower; which leads to less economic freedom, and a lower standard of living, no?
your simply an economic n00b

You are simply a moron who can't read. Read over the whole definition of Standard of Living and tell me where its sole determinant factor is the amount of goods and services you can buy with the dough you earn. Before you take me on and call me an economic noob, you should consider taking economics 101 and not sleeping through it. I'm not only saying you shouldn't sleep through it because your wallet might get stolen. You might actually learn something.

economics is not an opinion, it is proven time and time again, and each time, you are wrong. Why don't you transfer to UC, and try to pass our classes while also maintaining your infirior stance.

Yes, I had almost forgotten about your flawed health care system. It is severely flawed.

[BADMIHAI]

Can any of you twats spell? Have you heard of run-on sentences? You come here bragging about superior education and present yourself with that? It's like coming to a presidential debate in your briefs.

[RC45]

Can any of you twats spell? Have you heard of run-on sentences? You come here bragging about superior education and present yourself with that? It's like coming to a presidential debate in your briefs.

so you are more concerned about presentation than content it would seem which in and of itself would indicate your argument and position is backed by little fact and even less reality and all you are trying to do is appear as loud as possible and hope that if enough insults are hurled then your point of view will survive intact simply because others give up bt sorry to dissapoint you we are nto going away and are in fact correct

[nthfinity]

let us just play bad's game

(2006 Report)

Top thirty countries (HDI range from 0.965 down to 0.885)
Norway (=)
Iceland (=)
Australia (=)
Ireland (↑ 4)
Sweden (↑ 1)
Canada (↓ 1)
Japan (↑ 4)
United States (↑ 2)


Canukistan is down one, and USA is up 2 places... curious momentum shift, eh?

[Max Power]

all i want is my sway bar at a reasonable cost....dammit, is that too much to ask?

it appears to be so :(

[666fast]

You get unemployment, which is decent

We've got that too.

Then you go on welfare, wich is also decent

We have welfare as well.

They even provide you with government-subsidised housing, which in most cases is a pretty nice townhouse

We have that too. Low income housing, usually apartments or townhomes and sometimes even an average family house. They are not always in shitty neighborhoods like most would think either.

You get plenty of clothes, food, etc.

Same here. Goodwill stores and the Salvation Army will provide cheap (sometimes free) clothing and furniture. Food shelters will provide groceries to anyone without question. I dont' know what the programs are called in other states, but it Minnesota we have EBT and WIC. Both of which come from the state. Basically a credit card from the state to buy groceries. This is of course, free to low income families.
The EBT card comes with a cash account well, to buy other needed items.

You can even afford to run a car

Same here. Low income familes can even get them cheap thanks to all the auto charities.

You know, it keeps you from living like a dog so you don't go around mugging people

Yup, that what it's supposed to do. But it doesn't always work. Believe it or not, but that majority of people here are honest, hard working people. But with 300 million people in this country, there are going to be a few douchebags among them.

Furthermore, you still get the free healthcare so if you're on welfare you're not fucked if you break a leg.

We have state provided healthcare and Dentalcare as well. It's called Minnesota Care here, not sure about other states. You don't have to be poor to get it either. Anyone can get it if their workplace doesn't provide it. We'll just ignore the fact that a hospital connot turn a patient away.

All that and our taxes don't come close to 40%.


Also, I've never been stabbed, mugged, shot , assaulted, touched inappropriately, raped, car jacked, or any other bullshit you seem to think every American experieces on a daily basis.

[666fast]

all i want is my sway bar at a reasonable cost....dammit, is that too much to ask?

it appears to be so :(

Can yo get around it by sending your canadian rubles to somone here, have them buy it and send it to you as a gift? Or do gifts still get taxed?

[RC45]

all i want is my sway bar at a reasonable cost....dammit, is that too much to ask?

it appears to be so :(
Buy it from the states ;)

[Mattk]

4 pages already! What the hell?

Some places are more expensive than others. It's a fact of life. Demand and supply...?

On a side note, Australian authors' bestselling books are actually cheaper in the US than here.

[BADMIHAI]

That's gotta be because Mel Gibson is such a big hit over there. :wink:

[Max Power]

all i want is my sway bar at a reasonable cost....dammit, is that too much to ask?

it appears to be so :(

Can yo get around it by sending your canadian rubles to somone here, have them buy it and send it to you as a gift? Or do gifts still get taxed?

i'd still have to pay for sales tax 8% and most likely brokerage fees...

unless i drove across the border and then came back with it (i think u can bring over $500 worth of stuff with out getting taxed, as was the case with my surround sound)...but i don't know anyone in Buffalo... :|

[callen]

MaX Power- I feel you dude, stuff is generally more expensive here in Canada then it is in the US. I dont have an answer as to why that is, but I guess we will have to learn to accept it. Tho there is the choice to just go to the states, buy your goods and bring em back.... pay the sales tax you are still ahead. Dodge the fuckers at the border and say "nothing to declare sir" and ur as good as gold. either way you should come out ahead. pain in the ass? yes. want a swar bar for 2/3 the Canadian price? gotta be done.

MIHAI- man i dunno if i can stand up for you cause u seem to have dug urself pretty deep this time. I understand some of the things you say tho. I think free health care that covers many things for all canadians is a good thing. I am sure this has something to do with our tax rate being so high but who knows. As far as tax rates are concerned, at minimum wage, its less than 10% so your 40% goes out the window.. thats reserved for the six figure club. Quality of life in Canada vs. the US.... tough to say the population difference can be deceiving. Of course there is more poverty in the US because there is 10 times the amount of people. btw, I think you live just outside of London, On... correct? I spent three years in that city and its a pretty nice place to live, so its tough to get a good feel for what a bad area is. I mean the east side has its pockets but generally its a pretty affluent city. Also if you ever head to Toronto, skip the young and bloor shoppin trip and head to jane and finch, go check out how quickly someone is willing to FUCK YOU up for 5 dollars. nuff said bro.

[BADMIHAI]

Yeah, I guess you're right, Callen. Every time I worked the taxes were 5% or so because I'm a student. I know my mom pays 40% tax.