View Full Version : Death of a President FULL MOVIE
kach22i
11-20-2006, 01:43 PM
Death of a President FULL MOVIE
Yes, the one that has been in the news lately because it was DECIDED NOT TO BE SHOWN in the USA. It is very well made so get it before google takes it down:
http://video.google.com/googleplayer.swf?docId=5098845968335544697&hl=en
i'm not sure this is the right place to post it in..
kach22i
11-20-2006, 02:01 PM
i'm not sure this is the right place to post it in..
I've watched the film, gave me a chance to clean the office (at least an hour long).
It's a make believe situation that shows what could happen - very real in context.
I've been told by one person that it may of been made in Toronto but it is showing all over Europe.
yeah.. no i mean its fictional.. so i dont think this specific forum (World Political Debate) is the right place..
yeah.. no i mean its fictional.. so i dont think this specific forum (World Political Debate) is the right place..
edit- saw the first few mins of it.. looks pretty well made..
shit i hitted quote instead of edit..
where that button go? :lol:
and no delete option too..
TopGearNL
11-20-2006, 02:09 PM
shit i hitted quote instead of edit..
where that button go? :lol:
and no delete option too..
Thats because its been posted in the Political section, can't edit/delete posts!
TeflonTron
11-20-2006, 02:22 PM
I don't see what the problem is, to be honest. It's protected by both Freedom of Speach and Protection of the Media, and it makes abundently clear at all stages that it's a fictional hypothesis. To me, it's the same as the Mohammed cartoons: if you don't like it I'm very sorry, but that doesn't mean that it shouldn't be shown.
oh.. thanks dude.. :lol: i had no idea what the hell happened.. :lol:
This really doesnt belong in this section - unless the original poster is dreaming of one day killing the president.
Please repost this in the movie seciton I will be deleting this thread later today.
TeflonTron
11-20-2006, 04:39 PM
Why not just move it? Assuming that you can, of course.
Why not just move it? Assuming that you can, of course.
Why don't you just start a new topic? Assuming that you can, of course.
TeflonTron
11-20-2006, 05:12 PM
Dude, I was just saying that assuming that your Mod powers allow you to do so, why not just move the topic.
Dude, I was just saying that assuming that your Mod powers allow you to do so, why not just move the topic.
Dude, I was just saying that assuming that your user powers allow you to do so, why not just open another topic.
I am a forum moderator, not a site admin ;)
ARMAN
11-20-2006, 05:18 PM
I am just wondering how Bush will react when he will see/saw this film :shock:
TeflonTron
11-20-2006, 05:22 PM
Dude, I was just saying that assuming that your Mod powers allow you to do so, why not just move the topic.
Dude, I was just saying that assuming that your user powers allow you to do so, why not just open another topic.
I am a forum moderator, not a site admin ;)
Okay, that was all.
dutchmasterflex
11-20-2006, 05:37 PM
I thought they were showing this film in small "select" theaters in the country.. So it was banned in the US?
Max Power
11-20-2006, 05:54 PM
this 'movie' got 33% on rottentomatoes
http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/death_of_a_president/
I thought they were showing this film in small "select" theaters in the country.. So it was banned in the US?
Not banned - just chosen not to be shown/distributed.
The only reason you would want to see the show is to see Bush die.
The story could have been just as effective without the visuals.
This movie is a very poor attempt at public opinion manipulation.
There is a reason you don't show sitting heads of states in "dead" poses. This movie crosses the line.
ARMAN
11-20-2006, 06:00 PM
Did you watch it all RC?
TeflonTron
11-20-2006, 06:00 PM
Well, I haven't seen a single minute of this film, so I don't know in which style it's filmed. Is it footage, then a host talking about that footage in the context of what would happen? Or is it just x minutes straight through?
Did you watch it all RC?
Not interested. It is a hypothetical story of "the current world and its emotions and events".
Sadly the story will be like the Da Vinci code, people will see it, believe and then start to assume its all true ;)
ARMAN
11-20-2006, 06:05 PM
Its maybe not what you think, I was waiting it to be completely different.
Yes, making this kind of movie is probably a step over the line cause there are some idiots in the world that can want to make it happen.
Its maybe not what you think, I was waiting it to be completely different.
Yes, making this kind of movie is probably a step over the line cause there are some idiots in the world that can want to make it happen.
I have seen enough clips on the news to realise what the story is supposed to be, and simply put, I don't need to watch yet another "what if" movie made by some yahoo at this stage - it is as pointless as another JFK conspiracy movie.
There was just no reason to put a istting head of state in the gun sights.
ARMAN
11-20-2006, 06:15 PM
There was just no reason to put a istting head of state in the gun sights.
Agree with that.
Any kind of movie can make you think different if the ones who make it want it to. I wanted to make up my mind about this one seeing it.
Its IMO a message "movie" more for Bush and not so much for viewers, at least thats what I saw in it.
nthfinity
11-20-2006, 06:55 PM
If we arent 'allowed' to watch people jumping from the WTC, read about how OJ might have killed his ex wife, and ron goldman, then why should we be allowed to watch this uncreative docudrama?
its so incredibly obtuse...
thankfully, there are also legitimate docudrama people.... based on facts; and attempted smear by the Clinton administration; yet unwaivered, and based largely on those involved, and the 911 commission report.
http://pathto911.abc.com/index.html
free to watch! how cool is that? Thankyou ABC!
TeflonTron
11-20-2006, 06:58 PM
^ Because those things listed are real?
nthfinity
11-20-2006, 07:03 PM
^ Because those things listed are real?
yet the 9/11 jumpers prompt much more emotion, memories, and further conviction; and wasnt OJ innocent? :wink:
Jabba
11-20-2006, 07:32 PM
Dude, I was just saying that assuming that your Mod powers allow you to do so, why not just move the topic.
Dude, I was just saying that assuming that your user powers allow you to do so, why not just open another topic.
I am a forum moderator, not a site admin ;)
That is fixed now, so you should be able to move threads that are not appropriate for this forum :wink:
TeflonTron
11-20-2006, 07:41 PM
^ Because those things listed are real?
yet the 9/11 jumpers prompt much more emotion, memories, and further conviction; and wasnt OJ innocent? :wink:
Well, maybe, but censorship of the media is never a good thing. However, in the same vein, the media network is free to show/distribute what it wants, and we are free to watch it or not.
nthfinity
11-20-2006, 07:46 PM
^ Because those things listed are real?
yet the 9/11 jumpers prompt much more emotion, memories, and further conviction; and wasnt OJ innocent? :wink:
Well, maybe, but censorship of the media is never a good thing. However, in the same vein, the media network is free to show/distribute what it wants, and we are free to watch it or not.
censorship in the media is a good thing when it comes from within, in general... as at the end of the day, they are shooting for a larger marketshare, and the stations will change if the people don't watch them so they ultimately are responsible to "us"
but there are many reasons why i choose not to watch TV, or TV media outlets.
TeflonTron
11-20-2006, 07:56 PM
Agreed. The Media is a business and as a part of that they decide what will get the most viewers, and balance that against backlash (OJ). My personal feelings on this video are that there is nothing wrong with it within itself, but that it also doesn't really have a clearly defined point behind it, or at least one that 100% requires the film to be shot in the way that it is. It's sensationalistic, and while there is nothing wrong with that, it also needs to be tempred by having good journalism, and my gut instinct is that this film doesn't have that.
Mattk
11-20-2006, 08:09 PM
My personal feelings on this video are that there is nothing wrong with it within itself, but that it also doesn't really have a clearly defined point behind it...
Does it have to have a point? This is just entertainment. I doubt anyone is really going to take it seriously. I also doubt anyone is going to suddenly be more interested in killing Bush after this.
Its IMO a message "movie" more for Bush and not so much for viewers, at least thats what I saw in it.
Exactly - it was this pathetic movie makers way to try "blackmail" Bush - what the movie maker is too stupid to figure out is that in 18 months there will be a new sitting head of state.. yet the same "hatred" will suddenly appear.
nthfinity
11-21-2006, 02:24 AM
Interesting "documentary". I think it is very well made to look like all those re-creation documents. Maybe RC is right that this link doesn't belong to this section, but the movie has a right to be. I'm amused about your reactions though, reminds me about the muhammed cartoons :lol:
Thanks for the link, I wish I could save the file to my hd. Anyone have it already?
thats right, we are burning down the canadien embassies around the world, and kicking out hte consulate, and commanding a war against all canukistanians :| :roll:
Interesting "documentary". I think it is very well made to look like all those re-creation documents. Maybe RC is right that this link doesn't belong to this section, but the movie has a right to be. I'm amused about your reactions though, reminds me about the muhammed cartoons :lol:
Thanks for the link, I wish I could save the file to my hd. Anyone have it already?
muhammed is not a sitting head of state
Mattk
11-21-2006, 05:55 AM
muhammed is not a sitting head of state
Yeah, he's something much much more to those who believe in him. :wink:
I don't understand why there is a problem.
Max Power your avatar rocks 8)
kach22i
11-21-2006, 04:55 PM
I thought they were showing this film in small "select" theaters in the country.. So it was banned in the US?
Not banned - just chosen not to be shown/distributed.
The only reason you would want to see the show is to see Bush die.
The story could have been just as effective without the visuals.
This movie is a very poor attempt at public opinion manipulation.
There is a reason you don't show sitting heads of states in "dead" poses. This movie crosses the line.
You really should of viewed the movie before posting.
You never see Bush get shot, you never see a dead body.
You do hear shots and the limo drive away, something we have all seen happen for real when Reagan was shot.
You do see a picture of the president hanging on a casket, 2 + 2?
I did not want to muck up the "Movie" section with political BS, thank you all for letting the thread stay - I did think about it.
Also I did not know about the edit thing in the political section. I 'm not the greatest speller, will have to watch out for this feature in the future.
For the record, I don't think anyone wants to see or have a president Cheney.
Kind of off the topic, a few nights ago on Jon Stewards "The Daily Show" John Edwards was asked that if he had become VP under the Kerry ticket who he would of peppered with bird shot. He answered back: Dick Cheney.:lol:
I dont need to watch the movie before posting. Just because its your kind of movie and we all know you are a Bush hater (you make no secret of that.
) doesn't mean everyone wants to see it.
You do see him get shot - the first time they promoted the movie they were showing clips of the bullethole in his chest at the limo door.
There is no point to a "docudrama set in the future" tryign to deliver someones present message.
We all know that if someone made a movie about assasinating some foreign leader and used it to promote such activities you libelals would ave a field day attacking such endevours.
I did not want to muck up the "Movie" section with political BS, thank you all for letting the thread stay - I did think about it.
Never say never ;) :P
kach22i
11-22-2006, 06:15 AM
I dont need to watch the movie before posting. Just because its your kind of movie and we all know you are a Bush hater (you make no secret of that.
) doesn't mean everyone wants to see it.
Just because I don't like finding dog dodo on my lawn does not mean I don't like dogs. If Bush would not kill so many people by executive order (tens of thousands) then maybe I could deal with the rest of his dry drunk madness.
You need to watch the movie more than anyone does if you think you don't.
To comment about the movie without viewing the movie shows me your ugly side. And it's pretty ugly from where I sit.
I don't know which preview or trailer you are talking about. In the movie it shows the view from the 20th floor (at night) just for a second or two and the Secret Service guy talking/narrating at the time is in the view. You have a distorted and false impression of the movie; the only solution is to view it for yourself. Much of the movie is done in a style that is not exactly entertainment by Hollywood standards, but it has value as social commentary, which should not be dismissed out of hand.
About your other comments about me RC45, hatred will consume you if you let it. I suggest you let it go. I have not attacked you the way you have me. I strive to stay on the issues not the personalities. I offer only the truth for you to see; all I ask is that you open your eyes.
We now have political BS flowing over into the movie section; this is a mistake in my opinion. I don't know why this thread was moved into the movie section. There were more comments about what section the thread should be in than about the film it's self. I take this as a measure to avoid the issues brought up in the film. A measure I find a little bewildering and disappointing (although I can now edit spelling and typing mistakes). You can do better, and you should expect yourself to do better.
Don't attack the messenger.8)
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