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StanAE86
10-20-2006, 07:16 PM
Although, in this case, he's only a "suspect"...but to me, basically a criminal:

http://www.lawcrossing.com/article/policeman-lot

nthfinity
10-20-2006, 07:44 PM
what BS to think its under "unreasonable search and seizure"

sure it is unfortunate, but the second that Haris decided to run, the law was no longer on his side; and no matter how "slow" you go through intersections, that is endangering others. I side with the cops here.

they have to make decisions every day; in the end of the day, he is protecting and serving by chasing this would-be evader

novass
10-20-2006, 07:51 PM
Yes. If you cant do the time, then dont do the crime.

I have known a lot of cops in my time, both friends and family. Its a shame to see civilians sit around and bitch about stuff like this when they have absolutely no idea of what its like to be a cop, to put your life on the line for people you dont know. I realize that there are bad cops out there just as there are bad civilians out there, but how many of us have ever been in a gun fight or high speed pursuit with a potentially dangerous criminal? Now, how many of us can sit back and accurately describe the emotions involved in either case and exactly how we would react and if our actions would be morally responsible?

Most people that sit around bitching about the rights of criminals have never had first hand experiance with a true criminal. I have and it pains me to see people get off the hook due to trivial nonsense such as not having their Miranda rights read to them at the time of arrest or unlawful use of force to stop a fleeing suspect. If the guy didnt have anything to hide, he shouldnt have run. Almost all of us have been pulled over, issued tickets maybe even arrested, but its common knowledge that trying to run from the cops will not help.

Sure its hard to make a blanket statement and the possibility of wrongful allegations are always present, but this country is getting a little to soft sometimes.

ZfrkS62
10-20-2006, 11:31 PM
ciminals have more rights than the damn victims these days.

The only rights they should have are the rights to speedy and fair trial by their peers; the right not to incriminate themselves; and the protection from unlawful search and seizure. Other than that. You're SOL if you fucked up.

Mattk
10-21-2006, 01:10 AM
Criminals have the right to sue. The doctrine of attainder was abolished a long time ago. Harris was wrong - I assume he has been punished for a whole range of offences.

However, his lawsuit is a different matter - a civil matter. His argument is that Scott (the cop) caused his paralysis by going against an established procedure and ramming his car. This is external to the other offences. Fair enough, and the court agreed. I can't say I do, but I don't know enough of the facts or enough about American law to make a conclusion.

SFDMALEX
10-21-2006, 09:18 AM
/\/\/\I agree with the Belgian.


These highspeeds pursuits are stupid. They create more danger then anything.

Mattk
10-21-2006, 10:45 AM
Well the article did say that ramming was not allowed, so the cop seems to be in the wrong here.