View Full Version : 360 stradale vs Gallardo vs 911 gt2 vs sl 55 amg
kawa22
01-02-2004, 02:19 PM
Big Mistake!!!!
if you have the money wich you buy?
http://www.fast-autos.net/ferrari/stradale13.jpg
172.000 € 425 cv 1180 kg
http://www.fast-autos.net/lamborghini/gallardo11.jpg
145.000€ 500cv 1430 kg
http://www.fast-autos.net/porsche/04gt26.jpg
181.000€ 465 cv 1420 kg
http://www.fast-autos.net/mercedes/sl5528.jpg
136.000€ 500cv 1880 kg
Challenge Stradale hands down I think :)
crasherror
01-02-2004, 02:41 PM
GT2, the fastest track car money can buy.
And the winner is.... the "road challenge". Especially with those painted stripes:
http://www.ferrari.it/ferrari/images/challenge_stradale/780x490/alto.jpg
pedrohmb
01-02-2004, 02:49 PM
Ferrari 360 Stradale fo sure!! :)
yg60m
01-02-2004, 02:54 PM
I think it would be the Stradale ... because it's a Ferrari and a very good one.
twboy1999
01-02-2004, 04:23 PM
360 stradale
kawa22
01-02-2004, 04:35 PM
360 the queen?5-1 911 0-lambo 0-sl
Toronto
01-02-2004, 04:44 PM
GT2,
but the lambo is very fast and quick around bends, 70mph in first ain't that much fun for me
Bilal786
01-02-2004, 05:07 PM
SL55 AMG. A car you can actually use for the real world. You don't have to get into another sports car on the way home from the office to do 0-100mph in 10 seconds!
Minacious
01-02-2004, 05:07 PM
A silver Stradale sans the stripes.
BADMIHAI
01-02-2004, 05:11 PM
Ferrari 360 Stradale, because it's a Hardcore Ferrari. :)
pimrusis
01-02-2004, 05:16 PM
Stradale, because it is probably the quickest out of the bunch although can the Lambo do 0-60 in under 4 seconds?
alondahan
01-02-2004, 07:02 PM
Challenge Stradale!!! it's obvious :wink:
Chingachgook
01-02-2004, 07:11 PM
Ferrari Challenge Stradale, Rosso Corsa with Tricolore. No doubt at all. It's an hardcore car, fast, LOUD...I think at Her and I feel happy and intoxicated by adrenaline
asthenia
01-02-2004, 07:15 PM
So it's unanimous then.
I'd take the Stradale too. With stripes.
allanlambo
01-02-2004, 10:48 PM
Gallardo and the Gt2. Ferrari is way overrated. They just dynoed one, and it makes no more power than a stock 360, and its weight is heavier than quoted.
gt2 if its for everyday driving with the sl a close second. 360cs as a second car and the lambo for a 3rd. :twisted:
Ivanhoe
01-03-2004, 01:45 AM
GT2 no doubt. is the gt3 faster than the cs on the track? coulda sworn i saw that somewhere. damn i cant remember anything..
levensnevel
01-03-2004, 02:02 AM
Difficult,
might be tempted to go for the Porker if it comes with a advanced driver course with Tiff as tutor :lol: But I'll definitely go for the Stradale if Vix would show me the ropes during a trackday on a circuit :mrgreen:
Schwalbe
01-03-2004, 02:15 AM
Porsche GT2 all the way ! :D
kramerman
01-03-2004, 05:13 AM
Porsche for me :) Maybe the others are a bit too exotic for my liking...
Matty
01-03-2004, 06:29 AM
stradle easy
1 Gallardo for me please: AWD, 500bhp V10, Audi quality
kawa22
01-03-2004, 02:04 PM
360-13
911-8
SL-1 Gallardo-1
Johns
01-03-2004, 02:44 PM
GT2, Porsche= there is NO substitute!! more reliable then the others and rip new assholes when puttin some work on the engine, so ill keep the change!
DMbaseball1604
01-03-2004, 03:54 PM
Its an easy decision as far as the SL55 goes, its an old person's Porsche...Between the stradale and the GT2 its a tougher decision..but I would have to go with the GT2 because of the extra power and looks
Ivanhoe
01-03-2004, 05:56 PM
hehe finally the gt2 lovers speak up. this is going to be close
FoxFour
01-03-2004, 06:11 PM
Love the Challenge Stradale, but just looking at that Gallardo that you have on there has sealed the deal. The more that I look at that car, the more I like. Plus; if I had to drive it everyday, the AWD would help immensely when driving in the rain.
hemi_fan
01-03-2004, 08:12 PM
Answer: None of the Above
Ford GT plz :D
Out of the list i'd hafta pick the AMG benz
X-ale
01-03-2004, 09:49 PM
Gallardo, cuz.... it doesnt sport stripes, isn't a convertible, hasn't a huge wing and it`s ok :D
maalox
01-03-2004, 10:16 PM
Probably the Ferrari, although I don't really like the noise the sports exhaust makes. Could always trade it in for a vanilla 360 and about $60k in change :mrgreen:. Dark horse choice would be the GT2; the SL55 is too much of a luxo cruiser and the Gallardo is a bit too ostentatious for my tastes (although......... the performance is a hard thing to give up).
man this is a tough one,after thinkin im down to the porsche GT2 and the 360 CS.......................ok its the 360CS for me,the porsche is fast,but also the 360 isnt far behind it,but the ferrari has that noise,the wonderful V8 band,so it has to win :D
Bavarias_Finest
01-04-2004, 05:35 AM
SL55 AMG.....not only because I love it but the fact it pushes out the same numbers as the 575 Maranello for a 100k less. If the GT2 looked like this though I would definitely buy it in a heartbeat......
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid97/p2040f20f04c3fac59b2d29605e187edb/fa137a1a.jpg
scubywrxr
01-04-2004, 07:32 AM
ferrari for me pleeeeeez :mrgreen:
Leo_M3
01-04-2004, 09:27 AM
Yo thats a really hard choice.
Hmmmmmm..........well the SL55 would defintely be the most user friendly.
Gallardo goes around corners like an F1 car, and the 360 Stradale is temptingly good.
Gosh this is hard...........
Ok, I'll slash out the SL55 cos its only got an auto box. Gallardo's out cos its so hard to have some sideways fun in it.
360 Stradal's suspension is too hard which means its not as good for drifting.
I love 6 cyclinder engines so I will vote for the Porsche GT2 :)
Keessie20
01-04-2004, 11:20 AM
Must be the Ferrari !! Screaming engine :)
The gallardo made by audi :S and 4x4
The Merc still stays a merc. to heavy
Porsche will be my second choice !
Ivanhoe
01-04-2004, 02:32 PM
man this is a tough one,after thinkin im down to the porsche GT2 and the 360 CS.......................ok its the 360CS for me,the porsche is fast,but also the 360 isnt far behind it,but the ferrari has that noise,the wonderful V8 band,so it has to win :D
:cry: god damn i hate it when ppl think like that (no offence dude). porsche is clearly the best pick yet ppl choose the cs over it because of the exhaust note, and "well cuz its a ferrari!"
TydaCyda
01-05-2004, 12:50 AM
But dont forget the new GT2 has about 490 horses and the lambo still has a 0-60 time of just under 4.5 seconds cuz of the AWD. Gt2 all the way
offroadr35
01-06-2004, 01:19 PM
well i made this decision in real life and picked the GT2. With the upgrades to 600hp ($7500 total) i can truly say this thing is a monster. It is by far the best car i have ever driven and i have driven just about everything. I don't know why they never include this car in the comparisons because i am pretty sure it would absolutely smoke anything short of the true supercars. And, at the end of the day you have a car that you can drive home and take to work the next day without thinking about it.
On the track it is simply a pleasure to drive. Oversteer is easy to enduce at any time but also easy to bring back into check. I have not had much problem with the snap oversteer that many have complained about, maybe that is because i have adjusted the suspension and alignment a bit.
-Steve
stradale
01-06-2004, 05:46 PM
I'd choose the Gallardo, unless this question is about a car that you only drive on trackdays or sunny sundays. In that case my choice would be the 360CS.
I have very little emotion with Porsches so, although the GT2 is an excellent car, I'd never choose the GT2. The SL55 AMG doesn't stand a chance in this company.
kiato4
01-06-2004, 09:15 PM
The Gallardo is the greatest car for the money hands down. AWD with rear bias, limited slip, a gorgeous exterior, unbelievable quality (for an Italian brand), and reliable electronics (thanks to Audi), and the best paint on a car in the business make it hot hot hot...
Ivanhoe
01-06-2004, 10:05 PM
greatest car for the money!!! i dont think soo.... i would love to say porsche but not even them have the best bang for the buck. example, clio v6. but even the gt3 has better performance for money. best paint? i never paid attention to that really haha. but i think the paint quality is the same for just about all cars (in that class/price range). its no longer an italian brand as it is owned by audi. the interior isnt that nice either... rather plain actually.
stradale
01-07-2004, 07:12 AM
its no longer an italian brand as it is owned by audi.
Please think for yourself instead of repeating after ignorant people.
I'm aware this sounds a bit harsh, but I literally mean what I say. Just check the facts, take all circumstances into account and you'll come to a different conclusion.
gucom
01-07-2004, 08:44 AM
hmmmporsche 4 me cos its the fastest i think, and although i LOVE the looks of the gallardo, its got 4WD, yes its more practical but damn this is a €200k sportscar, u dont buy that for practical reasons! and for the ferrari, its pretty, RWD, NA engine, but still it doesnt do it for me, dunno why. for some reason i like the spoilers and stuff of the porsche, although i usually h8 that kinda stuff.
and porsche is the best brand in the world IMO(together wit mclaren)
gucom
01-07-2004, 08:46 AM
owh and BTW correct me if im wrong but i believe Ferrari is nowadays mainly owned by german banks, so in that sense were talkin bout 3 german sports cars, right??? no ofcourse not lamborghini is still as italian as it gets, so is ferrari
dylan99
01-07-2004, 07:19 PM
I would buy the Ferrari 360 Stradale. Beautiful sexy car with a heavenly exhaust sound
dylan99
01-07-2004, 07:32 PM
owh and BTW correct me if im wrong but i believe Ferrari is nowadays mainly owned by german banks, so in that sense were talkin bout 3 german sports cars, right??? no ofcourse not lamborghini is still as italian as it gets, so is ferrari
It still isn't a German car maker.
Did the Germans made the engine or is the technology from them? The factory is in Italy and the investors are German and the cars are made by Italian engineers/employees.
dylan99
01-07-2004, 07:33 PM
For my knowledge Ferrari is owned by the FIAT GROUP.
cavallino
01-07-2004, 09:03 PM
The 360 CS is a great car but I might have to choose the Gallardo. The Gallardo just seems to be more exotic for me. They are all great cars.
cavallino
01-07-2004, 09:04 PM
The 360 CS is a great car but I might have to choose the Gallardo. The Gallardo just seems to be more exotic for me. They are all great cars.
offroadr35
01-08-2004, 02:48 AM
The 360 CS is a great car but I might have to choose the Gallardo. The Gallardo just seems to be more exotic for me. They are all great cars.
have you seen the interior of the Gallardo? I sat in one the other day. It is as far from exotic as could possibly be. It's not even as exotic inside as some $40k cars. If all you're looking for is exotic-ness for 200k i don't know that any of these are the right pick.
The 360 CS is a great car but I might have to choose the Gallardo. The Gallardo just seems to be more exotic for me. They are all great cars.
ditto :roll: :lol:
X-ale
01-08-2004, 03:22 AM
its no longer an italian brand as it is owned by audi.
Please think for yourself instead of repeating after ignorant people.
I'm aware this sounds a bit harsh, but I literally mean what I say. Just check the facts, take all circumstances into account and you'll come to a different conclusion.
It would be like saying Mercedes-Benz is not German cuz it`s owned by Chrysler :roll:
zevolv
01-08-2004, 04:29 AM
It would be like saying Mercedes-Benz is not German cuz it`s owned by Chrysler :roll:
Actually Mercedes' parent company Daihmler(Benz) bought out Chrysler (they got rid of alot of the executives from Chrysler in the merger) So you could actually call Chrysler a German company at the rate these people are going.
Also I don't think that the SL55 AMG belongs in a comparison with the GT2, Gallardo, and the Challenge Stradale, the Ferrari should be the normal 360 if any.
nchs09
01-08-2004, 07:09 AM
Ferrari 360 Stradale, because it's a Hardcore Ferrari. :)
EXACTLY!!!
noosee
01-08-2004, 08:10 AM
Stradale - Always
ferrari550
01-08-2004, 01:26 PM
The Ferrari 360 stradale for me!!
just the looks, performance and that 3.6 V8!!!!
astonmartinandy
01-08-2004, 02:22 PM
Yeh the Ferrari is the loudest and fastest etc etc, but it is far from the best Ferrari, and not the best in this group either. Its got to be the Sl55 AMG, it can keep up with the porsche and ferrari, and its a comfortable grand tourer, which looks just as good with the top up!! And its got enough "real-world" torque to use it everyday!
allan_leung
01-08-2004, 03:44 PM
I'll go for the SL55
offroadr35
01-08-2004, 10:21 PM
Yeh the Ferrari is the loudest and fastest etc etc, but it is far from the best Ferrari, and not the best in this group either. Its got to be the Sl55 AMG, it can keep up with the porsche and ferrari, and its a comfortable grand tourer, which looks just as good with the top up!! And its got enough "real-world" torque to use it everyday!
depends what you mean by "keep up". We have an SL55 and a GT2 and have tracked both. On the track the GT2 is worlds faster. The SL55 weighs as much as a fullsize truck. Another problem is that because of the weight, the car can't use any good track tires. On the street the SL55 can only beat a stock GT2 above 120mph and with our extra horsepower in the GT2 (600) the Benz can't ever come close.
SFDMALEX
01-08-2004, 10:28 PM
Sorry but all of the cars mentioned are in completly different classes...
360CS- Is a track special Road/Race car.
Galardo- Is a sports car.
911 GT2- Well a sports car also, but much faster.
Sl 55- Is a big grand tourer.
but I would take 360CS.
ae86_16v
03-01-2004, 08:34 AM
Gallardo and the Gt2. Ferrari is way overrated. They just dynoed one, and it makes no more power than a stock 360, and its weight is heavier than quoted.
Yeah, I think Ferrari is over rated as well. I would go Gallardo and SL55. The SL for daily use and the Gallardo for the weekends. . .
Gallardo all the way but the SL to beacuse it somekes a murcielago from 0-300.So suck on that boys....... :lol:
amanthapar
03-01-2004, 11:21 AM
stradale...... because of the noise that thing makes... and its a ferrari so i dont need to say much
raven1822
03-01-2004, 12:37 PM
I like the 360, oh that sound and of course cause it is a Ferrari
911, what a platform, the car just flat performs, GT2 is my favorite 911
SL55, love the car, love that NASCAR sounding V8
BUUUUT, make mine a Gallardo. I just flat our love Lamborghini's much like you Ferrari guys love Ferrari.
Bavarias_Finest
03-01-2004, 12:43 PM
Yeh the Ferrari is the loudest and fastest etc etc, but it is far from the best Ferrari, and not the best in this group either. Its got to be the Sl55 AMG, it can keep up with the porsche and ferrari, and its a comfortable grand tourer, which looks just as good with the top up!! And its got enough "real-world" torque to use it everyday!
depends what you mean by "keep up". We have an SL55 and a GT2 and have tracked both. On the track the GT2 is worlds faster. The SL55 weighs as much as a fullsize truck. Another problem is that because of the weight, the car can't use any good track tires. On the street the SL55 can only beat a stock GT2 above 120mph and with our extra horsepower in the GT2 (600) the Benz can't ever come close.
Well than your GT2 isnt stock evidently. Let me get a SL 55K (Kleeman) pushing out +600bhp and it will be a helluva alot closer. For comparison a modified 911 Ruf Turbo is pushing 550bhp at 5800rpms....so you have done alot of work to your GT2. Lets also not forget that a stock SL 55 AMG runs the same numbers as a 575 Maranello......
abarth
03-01-2004, 12:46 PM
Ferrari 360 challenge stradale all the way, looks great, great noise, great handle........It's Perfect!!!!!!! :mrgreen:
®™▪▪Łчяί
03-01-2004, 12:51 PM
360 CS hands down, eccept i would prefer a proper manual
ahmedgiyab
03-01-2004, 05:04 PM
the SL55 is the fastest car from 0 to 300...30sec...
faster than Murcielago, GT2, Vanquish, 550 Maranello,... 8)
allanlambo
03-01-2004, 06:15 PM
Gallardo.
black_magician
03-01-2004, 07:34 PM
360 stradale
I wouldn't get the stripes though
zr2man99
03-01-2004, 07:48 PM
depends what you mean by "keep up". We have an SL55 and a GT2 and have tracked both. On the track the GT2 is worlds faster. The SL55 weighs as much as a fullsize truck. Another problem is that because of the weight, the car can't use any good track tires. On the street the SL55 can only beat a stock GT2 above 120mph and with our extra horsepower in the GT2 (600) the Benz can't ever come close.
So you own a GT2 and an SL55? Pictures please.
Ferrari CS would be my first choice, folloew by lambo, and Porsche in dead last. I don't like porsches.
cavallino
03-01-2004, 08:05 PM
The Lambo Gallardo
Silvia_Drift
03-01-2004, 08:06 PM
Well, the GT2 is the fastest around the track and in a straight line but not as rewarding and fun to drive as the 360CS. The downside to the 360CS is the paddle shifters; why can't a regular 6 speed be an option or something? The Gallardo's AWD makes it understeer too much and has no Lamborghini personality left in it since Audi bought Lambo. The SL55 is probably the most comforable and it is very quick in a straight line but it can't keep up with the other cars in the corners since it handles like what it is; a big heavy Grand Tourer. It also only has an Auto if I'm not mistaken which is a huge downer. So, overall, I will go with the Ferrari since I am looking for driver involvment and enjoyment.
kteo2003
03-01-2004, 09:22 PM
for me it depends...
i mean if i had other cars and i wanted a track car that would be challenge stradale but for first car a porsche gt2 is my choise :D
Tomerville
03-01-2004, 10:49 PM
Gallardo no doubt. 4wd, V-10, its a 360CS beater, listen to Jeremy's advice! the CS is second for its delightful noise, performance and so on and so forth. I think GT2s are a waste, and would take a GT3 instead because they are quicker (no, not faster, but quicker---big difference) and the Merc is too big and heavy.
bmwdakias
03-02-2004, 09:37 PM
Probably the GT2 is the winner for me but with a small margin,as far as looks are concerned the ferrari is the winner and it is probably going to make your heart beat faster than any other car in this group. If i wanted to have something more exclusive i would take the gallardo, the mercedes is a great car but it is not that sporty when compared with the other cars. Oooooo i dont think that i can decide, while writing this message i was changing my mind on which one i would choose for me,all of them are just great
Anonymous
03-02-2004, 10:39 PM
car comparisons, how intriguing.
next lets compare colors, ill go first, blue rocks but is it better than red???
lets vote.
gottacatchup
03-02-2004, 11:29 PM
for the record the standings are:
360 CS - 28
GT2 - 17
Gallardo - 14
SL55 AMG - 9
PATo355
03-03-2004, 12:11 AM
Of course the Gallardo , its better than the other competitors , pllus is pretty reliable , the fastest and comfortable
nejcdolinsek
03-03-2004, 03:21 AM
It isn't even a contest... The 360 challenge Stradale!!! :D
KaBlookie
03-03-2004, 08:44 AM
It's really close for be, between the GT2 and the 360...but let's just say i had an everyday driver (sayyy...a new M5? :twisted:) then I'd certainly go with the 360. If it were to be my one and only car, then I might go with the GT2 (cuz i could upgrade it without being a blasphemer :wink:)
so basically, if someone put a gun to my head and said to pick ONE, then I'd go for the 360 Challenge Stradale.
novass
03-03-2004, 09:27 AM
GT2 or Gallardo for me.
Tracktimes:
Nurnburing/Hockenheim
Gallardo: 7.52 min/1.11,8 min
Stradale: 7.56 min/1.13,0 min
GT2(462hp): 7.46 min/1.12,6 min
ok, I finally decided, GT2 for me.
HeilSvenska
03-03-2004, 11:21 AM
another never-ending topic...
360 Stradale has the noise and looks
Gallardo has the 4-wheel drive and grips
GT2 has ... the ultimate Porsche-ness
SL has the luxury and comfort
I can't really choose one from another...but the GT2 is the least likely...
kawa22
03-03-2004, 02:01 PM
GT2 RULES!!!!
Tomerville
03-03-2004, 02:53 PM
Gallardo: 7.52 min/1.11,8 min
Stradale: 7.56 min/1.13,0 min
GT2(462hp): 7.46 min/1.12,6 min
How did you get these numbers? Isn't the ring sort of a bad track to take measure with because its such a high speed course? How about unleashing the Ford GT and spanking all three of them?--or maybe not because once again, the Ring is more about speed at this level since they all handle amazingly.
niedi
03-03-2004, 04:27 PM
These times are from "SportAuto" magazin. Horst von Saurma drives all cars in the supertests.
Hockenheim is not a high speed track (highest speed of gallardo was 201 km/h at start/finish straight.
another interesting fact.
Supertest in Hockenheim:
- Stradale: air temperature 19°C
tarmac 17°C
- Gallardo: air temp. 7°C
tarmac 5°C (not much grip)
novass
03-03-2004, 04:47 PM
These times are from "SportAuto" magazin. Horst von Saurma drives all cars in the supertests.
Hockenheim is not a high speed track (highest speed of gallardo was 201 km/h at start/finish straight.
Yes its from SportAuto, made by the same driver, a professionell driver.
Nurburgring = fast cars
Hockenheim = for cars with good handling, speed isnt very important on this track.
From SportAuto
CarreraGT:
Nurburgring: 7.40 min( done on a wet track, if it was a dry track , the time would be 7.30 min)
Hockenheim: 1.08,6 min
niedi
03-03-2004, 07:20 PM
Thanks for the tracktime of the CGT, but i buy every new issue of "Sport Auto". :D
I hope they test it again on a dry track, so that we now how fast the CGT really goes round the "Green Hell".
veilsidebr
03-03-2004, 10:37 PM
Chalenge Stradale...awesome noise, beats those all cars.
novass
03-04-2004, 03:32 AM
Thanks for the tracktime of the CGT, but i buy every new issue of "Sport Auto". :D
I hope they test it again on a dry track, so that we now how fast the CGT really goes round the "Green Hell".
Yes, SportAuto said a new test will be done on a dry track. :)
zmydust823
03-04-2004, 11:40 PM
GT2 hand down...porsche is made better than ferrari, lambo, and mercedes, gt2 does 60 in 3.6...100 in 8.9...it handles better than all of them, looks better, and is an every driver....
Gabriel343
03-05-2004, 12:59 PM
Gallardo
I'de take the stradale. It's a tough choice between the gallardo, GT2 and the Ferrari. The merc really doesn't belong in this class. It is fast in a straight line but throw it on a track with the other three and it would get killed! For me the ferrari is the most complete car( the sound :shock: , the looks the power). But it would be a very close second between the gallardo and the GT2
I'de take the stradale. It's a tough choice between the gallardo, GT2 and the Ferrari. The merc really doesn't belong in this class. It is fast in a straight line but throw it on a track with the other three and it would get killed! For me the ferrari is the most complete car( the sound :shock: , the looks the power). But it would be a very close second between the gallardo and the GT2
espen
03-05-2004, 03:30 PM
Gallardo! Seriously, you can use it every day, it's beautiful inside and out and makes a wonderful sound - and it'll still run with a 911tt on any road even in the rain. And running 7.50 at the Ring, it's among the very fastest cars at any cost at tracks too!
...and it's a Lambo for gods sake! :D
SPEEDKILLAR
03-05-2004, 04:30 PM
Mercedes SL, but not for the track, just as a fast cruising machine. But
the stradale is the winner among the other names :wink:
komotar
03-05-2004, 09:15 PM
STRADALE all the way.
It's sex on wheels!!!!!!!!
oantob
03-06-2004, 10:03 AM
i pick the 360 stradale because of that great exhaust sounds great, watch 5th gear review and u will know :wink:
bmagni
03-06-2004, 04:25 PM
Stradale all the way !!! Great job by ferrari
adamwich
03-07-2004, 07:18 AM
I pick the Gallardo
carmineroma
03-08-2004, 06:38 PM
all is possible?
StanAE86
03-08-2004, 06:54 PM
Putting aside all things "practical" such as "real world" usability, and insurance, I think I'd have to go with the Ferrari because the Gallardo is a "baby" Lambo and I'd rather have the big dog, the Benzo is nice, but it's not a driver's car...but between the Porsche and the Ferrari, it's a hard one. I'd go ultimately with the Ferrari because of the musical motor and slightly more exclusive marque - the chicks will see the 911 as a regular 911 with a fixed wing. All chicks will give the Ferrari extra love no matter what company you're in, no matter what.
ultramanluder
03-09-2004, 03:42 AM
it's a hard one between stradale, gt2 and gallardo.
track: stradale, everyday car: gt2, weekend car: gallardo. grocery run: benz. of course if you can afford one of these babies, you most likely can afford all 4 :D if i can barely afford only one of these, i seriously wouldn't own any of them 'cause i'd be worried everytime i take the car out, and that's not fun :cry:
italian_stalion_32
03-10-2004, 12:03 AM
360CS, for a few reasons, its quick, beutiful,fast and most of all its a Ferrari
paulesko
03-10-2004, 06:50 PM
I take the Stradale, but close with the porsche, cause I love porsches
Saludos
sk123
03-11-2004, 05:13 AM
Gallardo all the way
italian_stalion_32
03-16-2004, 02:18 AM
CS, Gallardo, Gt2 and then the benz
i disagree with the 2 reply that says the the gt2 is the fastest track car money
can buy, we all know the faster track car that money can buy in the one and only
Enzo
jkofinas
03-16-2004, 11:48 PM
Gallardo wins hands down. Sure in a straight line they are pretty much equal, except the sl 55 may lag a bit. But throw those cars around a bend and the AWD of the gallardo just takes over.
JiggaStyles09
03-17-2004, 06:07 PM
Gallardo wins for me too the GT2 would be a close second but i really love the styling and the 500hp. i am pretty sure it smokes the ferrari CS. maybe my opinion will change when the new 360 comes out or should i say the 420??? i hear rumors of a new 4.2 liter v8 and revised styling. cant wait to see it. but for now the lambo wins out.
Tomerville
03-17-2004, 06:21 PM
Gallardo...yummm
JiggaStyles09
03-17-2004, 06:56 PM
Gallardo wins for me too the GT2 would be a close second but i really love the styling and the 500hp. i am pretty sure it smokes the ferrari CS. maybe my opinion will change when the new 360 comes out or should i say the 420??? i hear rumors of a new 4.2 liter v8 and revised styling. cant wait to see it. but for now the lambo wins out.
20VTurbo
03-19-2004, 12:28 AM
Lambo all the way ! 500HP AWD !!!
and you dont see many of them on the road
rob_e1
03-19-2004, 05:50 AM
SL is too much seen as an old mans car and AUTO..? no way in a sports car.
911 - well, i see a bunch of porsches every day on the way to work so for me (even a super rare car like the GT2) its not got that supercar 'presence' that is really necessary at this level. Shame because its the very thing that porsche does well (making reliable usable cars) ends up counting against it.
For me its a 360 CS or Gallardo. I don't like paddles, so it would prob have to be a manual gallardo.
Ford GT would also be a contender IMO - 500 bhp v8 etc.. shame it is not built in bigger number and also only LHD.
Gallardo will probably be the replacement for my esprit in a few years time when prices are a bit more reasonable, or manual 360 with carbon seats, BBS CH wheels and sticky tyres + tubi. :P why pay silly prices for them to take out all the goodies :)
heath
03-19-2004, 08:17 AM
Porky's got my vote baby
enfermin
03-20-2004, 12:55 AM
:shock: ferrari challenge of course, (if it comes with the 6gear manual...
mit5005
03-20-2004, 05:10 PM
I would have to say the GT2. The cs is a great car but I would rather own a regular 6 speed than a f1 style. The GT2 would be the most fun for me because its almost like a race cause its 6 speed and rwd, i know the other ones have it but Porsche is known for their great engines. And who could go wrong with a flat 6 tt capable of 196 mph.
kompak
03-23-2004, 11:55 PM
i would go for stradale
Must be the Ferrari !! Screaming engine :)
The gallardo made by audi :S and 4x4
The Merc still stays a merc. to heavy
Porsche will be my second choice !
yeap same here...
Challenge Stradale all the way for me!
jorge
04-04-2004, 09:54 PM
the SL55 is incredible, altough being automatic it´s a little different from the others. The Ferrari is the best!
vento95gl
04-07-2004, 05:47 PM
hands down the challenge stradale. it sounds sooo sweet :)
nickstones
04-08-2004, 08:04 PM
Well, I haven't driven the Porsche; but I have driven the other two. I ended up buying the gallardo! Its faster, more a daily driver, and its looks are great. I love the 360 look and power, but the gallardo was just too much. The Porsche is great I'm sure; however, as an exotix, it just doesn't match up. Gallardo hands down!
meetmeroundthecorner
04-11-2004, 05:50 PM
The 360 Challenge stradale all day long!!! 8) My best mate (i wonder why :roll: ) first bought an sl55 and has now got delivery of his new gallardo. Neither impressed me that much for certain reasons. The gallardo sounds like a motorbike, and also has a lot of burning smells consistently. The sl55 is a fine car if your about 2 retire on your pension. The porsche is a poor mans ferrari, in which case the F360 CS is the modern day F40 :D with a natural aspirated engine, but still a poor mans Enzo :twisted: !!
I live literally down the road from a local Maranello Ferrari Dealership :lol: , so naturally i hear and see all sorts of ferrari's hurtling up and down the road, nothing compares to a Ferrari F50 v12 NA engine screaming down the road!!!!! :D
PS. Gallardo is just a overblown Audi!!
jon_s
04-11-2004, 06:02 PM
The porsche is a poor mans ferrari, in which case the F360 CS is the modern day F40 :D
Are you sure about that? A CGT is harldy 'poor'. A 996 Turbo, is not exactly cheap wither, or a GT2, or a GT3 for that matter. In fact, Porsche and poor, don't really go together IMO.
Fair enough if you don;t like Porsche, but they are not a poor man's Ferrari!
meetmeroundthecorner
04-11-2004, 06:10 PM
The porsche is a poor mans ferrari, in which case the F360 CS is the modern day F40 :D
Are you sure about that? A CGT is harldy 'poor'. A 996 Turbo, is not exactly cheap wither, or a GT2, or a GT3 for that matter. In fact, Porsche and poor, don't really go together IMO.
Fair enough if you don;t like Porsche, but they are not a poor man's Ferrari!
I'll partially agree with you there. Firstly, Porsche is second fiddle to Ferrari when it comes to prestige, motor sport, well in fact quite a lot. Secondly, Porsche rely on turbos to produce maximum power from an engine where as ferrari create the most meatiest engines bhp per litre by means of just natural aspiration. A true sports car manufacturer!! The top of the range porsche only compares to a low down stock F360 which in my case just shows my point.
Its not that i don't like Porsche, but if your going to buy a sports car like that you might as well buy a true sports car like a ferrari!!
jon_s
04-11-2004, 06:30 PM
A GT3 surely compares with a 360CS? I take your points, I am a huge fan of Ferrari, I just think that if you buy a Porsche you are looking for a different thing in a car that someone who purchases a Ferrari.
In terms of HP, it is not all down to bhp figures, Ferrari certainly have an edge, but Porsche are not exactly underpowered:
GT3: 3600cc, 375bhp, 272bhp/ton
360 CS:3586cc, 420bhp, 333bhp/ton
CGT: 5733cc, 604bhp,445bhp/ton
Enzo: 5998cc, 650bhp,484bhp/ton
but on a torque front, they are more evenly matched:
GT3: 284lb/ft
306CS: 275lb/ft
CGT: 435lb/ft
Enzo: 485lb/ft
bmwfreak
04-11-2004, 09:53 PM
POrsche and Ferrari are manufacturers in their own right, with neither of them playing second fiddle to anyone, or each other. For what its worth, I;d take the 360CS (David Vivian in Autocar UK said the M3 CSL actually meant M3 "Challenge Stradale Lite"). :)
I thought htis thread died ages ago?
nthfinity
04-11-2004, 11:20 PM
Gallardo and the Gt2. Ferrari is way overrated. They just dynoed one, and it makes no more power than a stock 360, and its weight is heavier than quoted.
hmm, do you have any proof of this source, or is this just speaking out of your bum?
its a tough decision for me between the GT2 and the 360 CS... these two are also much closer in price to eachother then the lambo contender.
after a grueling decision... i will opt for the GT2 because of its gearbox (its a stick... faster shifts, and im in more control which is important anyway)
meetmeroundthecorner
04-12-2004, 10:31 PM
after a grueling decision... i will opt for the GT2 because of its gearbox (its a stick... faster shifts, and im in more control which is important anyway)
There is no way on earth a stick is faster than ferraris latest f1 paddle shift or for that matter lambos e-gear. On top of the quick change, u don't even have to lift off the accelerator.
Control wise, u have full control over the f1 style gears, just takes a little getting used 2!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
nthfinity
04-13-2004, 03:40 PM
There is no way on earth a stick is faster than ferraris latest f1 paddle shift or for that matter lambos e-gear. On top of the quick change, u don't even have to lift off the accelerator.
Control wise, u have full control over the f1 style gears, just takes a little getting used 2!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
yes there is a way, unless the shift gate is broken, or the gearbox has SERIOUS mechanical issues. in the hands of average, advanced, or professional drivers, proper manuels are faster shifts.
the only place i know where this isnt true is F1, and rally electro-hydrolic sequential gearboxes, where they depend on immediate shifts, and such a low amount of engine mass requires the rotational mass to slow over less time, versus road cars in which this isnt as strong a catagory. where F1 shifts are the best in road cars is Down shifts for the same reason... engine power to increase the engine revs is much quicker then idle throttle through computer controls to drop the revs.
have you ever head of power shifting? you simply cannot do this in a sequential gearbox.
since the downshifts are better, and essentially guarenteed, they say the sequential box is better for a track.
jon_s
04-13-2004, 03:45 PM
after a grueling decision... i will opt for the GT2 because of its gearbox (its a stick... faster shifts, and im in more control which is important anyway)
There is no way on earth a stick is faster than ferraris latest f1 paddle shift or for that matter lambos e-gear. On top of the quick change, u don't even have to lift off the accelerator.
Control wise, u have full control over the f1 style gears, just takes a little getting used 2!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Sreriously though, do you think that a mili second here or there is going to make a difference to the average driver? For me one of the most evocative aspects of a Ferrari is the manual box. There is nothing like it, in any other car, period. The clunk-click-clunk as you change gear is part of driving a Ferrari. I think that getting a Ferrari with an F1 style gear box is almost a sin. There was some footage of a bloke on the gumball rally who was boasting about how quick the gear change was, just a shame that he could not drive to match.
F360spider
04-13-2004, 03:48 PM
Ferrari or Nothing
Oooooooohhh come on Guys
Ferrari is the king of the road & the leader of Supercars
also it is the only car that you can enjoy its sound while speeding
FORZA Ferrari The Prancing Horse F360 Spider
NYCHonda
04-13-2004, 06:19 PM
Definitely the 360 Stradale no doubt about it.
chest3r
04-13-2004, 06:21 PM
I'd prefer the 360 Stradale. It's a Ferrari :lol: , it's absolutly amazing, and the sound is awesome. And the gear box must be excelent.
I like the gallardo and it has a good engine but not so good as the stradale
The 911 GT2 seems to be good but I don't like the car very much.
I think the Mercedes is not a really sports car. It's a fast car but not so good as the others....
Finally:
1st - Stradale
2nd - Gallardo
3rd - 911 GT2
4th - Mercedes
Porsche - there is no substitute :wink:
AMG E55
04-19-2004, 12:10 AM
AMG
novass
04-20-2004, 01:10 AM
360 Stradale Rossa Corsa with the hand painted stripes no contest there although the picture of the Merc SL55 AMG drifting is interesting but Ferrari all the way i mean a Merc? no a Lambo that goes to 70MPH in 1st? no but a hard core lightened and power boosted Ferrari? Hell yeah show me the keys
normy360
04-23-2004, 01:30 AM
360 Challenge Stradale. No doubt about it.
BTW, did you know the stripe is an option that costs about $5000 in the US?
yg60m
04-23-2004, 01:39 AM
Yes i know it's expensive but it's not a sticker, as another member explain, it's painted , and i suppose nothing is cheap with Ferrari, for example your buckets :wink:
allanlambo
04-23-2004, 02:41 AM
Gallardo, no ifs ands or butts.
pakos007
04-23-2004, 05:20 AM
i see that some people here want just to be fast and dont mention how that can be achieved.how the hell can a sl55 amg be enjoyable,i dont know.if you want a computer to decide about everything in your car,go play gran tourismo,dont buy cars.ferrari CS , porche GT2 and lambo are pure street racing machines,for driver enthusiasts who want to do everything in their car by themselves.big deal that the sl 55 amg is as fast as maranelo...do you really want to compare these cars??no u dont,because ferrari is much better in all other aspects.
i am a japanese fan myself,but i really admit that GT2 and CS are pure racing machines,making your heart beat faster because you just fall in love with them once you drive them.I think that the Gt2 is a step forward because of the manual transmision,but also a step backwards because of the turbos.I would go for the Gt3 instead.
But in this comparison i would go for the GT2. :D
toprpm
04-23-2004, 08:59 AM
sure the MErc .....500 OUT HP ..AND luxury too ...
5.7 V10
04-23-2004, 10:27 AM
SL55 AMG for me. Looks great, 493 BHP, 516 ft-lbs of torque. Plus a convertible metal folding roof.
artypossum
04-24-2004, 03:53 PM
Choosing one of these cars would be very hard! They are all intoxicatingly good. With the Ferrari you get the full hardcore Ferrari experience but not too much difference from the standard 360. With the Porsche you get trackday thrills and nuclear submarine like engineering but rearwheel drive is a disadvantage. The SL55 AMG is quick enough to blow you socks off but it loses out handling wise and has no fully automatic option. The Gallardo is just perfect: heaps of power, sorted handling and drop dead gorgeous looks. A true supercar!
adamrotor
04-26-2004, 12:36 AM
its between the gt2 and ferrari.
Ivote for gt2, just cuz i like it much :roll:
neosky
04-28-2004, 01:56 AM
Challenge Stradale all the way baby!!
Ferrari is just in my blood. But in the real world, I think I would go for the
SL55 AMG, just because it's way cheaper and much more practical.
sledgeham
04-28-2004, 06:00 AM
SL is for Oldies...(Jeremy drives one!!!)..that has put me off...BIGTIME!
Stradale..love the way it sounds,but thats bout it!...it aint practical...
And Porsche..what can i say...if it were'nt for the lambo...
Lambo is the only car that looks the part...Its the only car which looks like its designed with the future in mind...10 years from now it would not feel out of place i think....
Its definitely the lambo for me8)
Pwoarrr
04-30-2004, 01:33 AM
let's see....if I had the money, ALL OF THEM!! :D
anywayz, if i had to pick one, it would be between the ferrari or the porsche.
tough call, nothing else in that group sounds as good as the f-car, but the porsche is more reliable, I would rather be driving my car than to have it in the shop all the time.
No manual tranny...no SL55 for me! (paddle shifters are okay)
jon_s
04-30-2004, 01:53 PM
the stripes on the Ferrari CS are so expensive because they are hand painted.
scharreltje
04-30-2004, 04:38 PM
I would definitely choose the gallardo, not that i could lol cause i dont have the cash.... im from holland and i dont think theres a single lambo here at any rate, i havent seen it. It just soooo amazing. I dont get it, everyone choosing the ferrari i mean seriously irs way overrated its become way to commercial and common, not very stylish neither, Gallardo rules. Besides, you've still got the image problem with porsche and Mercedes wich i dont care about but other people do
SPEEDKILLAR
04-30-2004, 04:42 PM
^^^^^^First decent post, welcome and enjoy JW :wink:
Van Nederland hé, MERC rules :D
Watch out for the new SL 65 AMG :shock: :shock: :shock:
Gallardo great italian daily driver's car.
peacenriot69
05-30-2004, 07:10 AM
Ferrari no doubt , i mean come on its a FERRARI ! just the name causes heart paliptations. (Working on an enzo drawing right now) the porsche may be more for performance the lambo more for looks but the FERRARI is for life :lol:
nurbrun
05-30-2004, 12:52 PM
it would be btween the ferrari and the porsche.
i would go with the GT2 because it aint paddle shift :mrgreen:
Ford Capri 2.8i
06-23-2004, 05:35 PM
Id prefer the GT3, or the Stradalle....but at the end of the day is one of the most difficult choise that ive ever had
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