Audi Q7 V12 TDi - 500hp,1000Nm, $440.000 in Norway

[Skaala]

http://www.autoweek.nl/images/800/0/9e77fe8735907f068c1a10a333c7edc0.jpg

http://img118.imageshack.us/img118/5601/2060911001mini19lxd6.th.jpg (http://img118.imageshack.us/my.php?image=2060911001mini19lxd6.jpg) http://img118.imageshack.us/img118/9453/2060911001mini18lep3.th.jpg (http://img118.imageshack.us/my.php?image=2060911001mini18lep3.jpg) http://img118.imageshack.us/img118/6148/2060911001mini17leh4.th.jpg (http://img118.imageshack.us/my.php?image=2060911001mini17leh4.jpg) http://img118.imageshack.us/img118/5908/2060911001mini16ldv7.th.jpg (http://img118.imageshack.us/my.php?image=2060911001mini16ldv7.jpg) http://img118.imageshack.us/img118/762/2060911001mini15lcu2.th.jpg (http://img118.imageshack.us/my.php?image=2060911001mini15lcu2.jpg) http://img118.imageshack.us/img118/9955/2060911001mini14lxe6.th.jpg (http://img118.imageshack.us/my.php?image=2060911001mini14lxe6.jpg) http://img118.imageshack.us/img118/3005/2060911001mini13lzh0.th.jpg (http://img118.imageshack.us/my.php?image=2060911001mini13lzh0.jpg) http://img118.imageshack.us/img118/2252/2060911001mini12lgu2.th.jpg (http://img118.imageshack.us/my.php?image=2060911001mini12lgu2.jpg) http://img118.imageshack.us/img118/7978/2060911001mini11lbi7.th.jpg (http://img118.imageshack.us/my.php?image=2060911001mini11lbi7.jpg) http://img118.imageshack.us/img118/2053/2060911001mini10lev3.th.jpg (http://img118.imageshack.us/my.php?image=2060911001mini10lev3.jpg) http://img118.imageshack.us/img118/5863/2060911001mini9lsv3.th.jpg (http://img118.imageshack.us/my.php?image=2060911001mini9lsv3.jpg) http://img118.imageshack.us/img118/8154/2060911001mini8lmi3.th.jpg (http://img118.imageshack.us/my.php?image=2060911001mini8lmi3.jpg) http://img118.imageshack.us/img118/5747/2060911001mini7lbh4.th.jpg (http://img118.imageshack.us/my.php?image=2060911001mini7lbh4.jpg) http://img118.imageshack.us/img118/1351/2060911001mini6lnv4.th.jpg (http://img118.imageshack.us/my.php?image=2060911001mini6lnv4.jpg) http://img118.imageshack.us/img118/435/2060911001mini5lir1.th.jpg (http://img118.imageshack.us/my.php?image=2060911001mini5lir1.jpg)
http://img118.imageshack.us/img118/6964/2060911001mini4lny8.th.jpg (http://img118.imageshack.us/my.php?image=2060911001mini4lny8.jpg) http://img118.imageshack.us/img118/5513/2060911001mini3lsp3.th.jpg (http://img118.imageshack.us/my.php?image=2060911001mini3lsp3.jpg) http://img118.imageshack.us/img118/3522/2060911001mini2lrb0.th.jpg (http://img118.imageshack.us/my.php?image=2060911001mini2lrb0.jpg) http://img118.imageshack.us/img118/7883/2060911001mini1lgh5.th.jpg (http://img118.imageshack.us/my.php?image=2060911001mini1lgh5.jpg)

Audi is proud to present a world first – the first twelve-cylinder diesel engine in a series passenger car. This six-litre V12 makes its debut in the Audi Q7. It produces a colossal 500 PS and 1,000 Nm of torque. With this engine Audi has opened a new chapter in diesel history.

The V12 TDI is reminiscent of the engine featured in the new R10 Le Mans racing car – it catapults the driving performance of the Audi Q7 into the echelons of top-class sports cars. The car sprints from 0 to 100 km/h in just 5.5 seconds, and has an electronically governed top speed of 250 km/h. Maximum torque is available from just 1,750 rpm. The high-tech diesel engine, with the world’s first 2,000 bar Bosch Common Rail system, provides the high-performance Audi SUV with superior power reserves in any situation. The impressive sound of the new Audi is provided by the ultra-modern piezo-injection system. The V12 TDI transmits this power through a new six-speed tiptronic gearbox to the quattro permanent four-wheel drive system.

Although the V12 TDI belongs to the Audi V-engine family, this model features a special cylinder angle of 60° – perfect for this engine type. Apart from the light and highly durable crankcase, a further highlight is the new chain drive assembly. This includes the two newly developed high-pressure pumps in the common rail injection system.

Up to 2,000 bar of pressure is kept within the twelve piezo injectors – a further technological breakthrough. Both performance and efficiency are optimised by this high injection pressure, and the running smoothness also remains excellent. Exhaust emissions are also low. The twin-turbo V12 TDI conforms to the Euro 5 emissions class which should come into force in 2010. Fuel consumption is only 11.9 litres per 100 kilometres. With the high-tech twelve-cylinder engine using TDI technology, the diesel pioneers at Audi have opened new horizons in motoring.


500HP, 1000Nm between 1,750 - 3000 rpm, 0-100km/h in 5.5s

See complete Audi press announcement at
http://www.worldcarfans.com/news.cfm/country/gcf/newsID/2060911.001/audi/audi-q7-v12-tdi-revealed

[yg60m]

Incredible !! :shock: I wonder how much it weights :?:

[davide]

That's more like it!!!! :twisted: :twisted:

and some new design also, looks brilliant!

[gucom]

muhahaahah this thing in an A8 / S8 would be soooo cool :D
too bad the car it's in now is such an ugly piece of shit :? (although it seems to look a tiny bit better than other Q7's?)

[TNT]

Porsche, BMW, Jeep, MB, Infiniti (the only ones with a fast SUV) better look out now. :twisted:

[Skaala]

muhahaahah this thing in an A8 / S8 would be soooo cool :D
too bad the car it's in now is such an ugly piece of shit :? (although it seems to look a tiny bit better than other Q7's?)

I have heard that when this was under testing it also ran in a S8

[Shinigami]

Porsche, BMW, Jeep, MB, Infiniti (the only ones with a fast SUV) better look out now. :twisted:Not really... this Q7 is still very slow.

[sentra_dude]

Pretty cool engine, but I wish the engine was in a car rather than a big hulking SUV. Is this right, 1000nm=737 ft-lbs? :shock:

Incredible !! :shock: I wonder how much it weights :?:

ALOT!

[gucom]

that conversion sounds about right...

[Bernardo]

Porsche, BMW, Jeep, MB, Infiniti (the only ones with a fast SUV) better look out now. :twisted:Not really... this Q7 is still very slow.

I wouldnt say that 5.5 secs 0-60mph is slow for a suv...

[Shinigami]

It's pretty darn slow for a car.

Besides, there are SUV's which are faster then this as well.

[5vz-fe]

It's pretty darn slow for a car.

Besides, there are SUV's which are faster then this as well.

Faster yes, but this will probably be one of the most drivable SUV. The monster torque curve means it will hardly require any gear change, and a better kick in the back.

[Ford Capri 2.8i]

As far as I know, the Q7 weights two tons and a half, and thats why the car was forced to get bigger brakes than the rest of versions

Although 5,5 seg for 100 km or 60 miles per hour doesnt sound very well, IMO its acceleration is quite brilliant considering that normally the equivalent petrol accelerates a bit better than the diesel; however, Audi estimates about 11,7 liter per 100 kilometers getting it at 80 kilometer per hour on a motorway; in contrast, the porsche cayenne turbo gets 19 liters in the same conditions

[dutchmasterflex]

And I thought the V10 Toureg was crazy..

I wonder if F1 will adopt this as their new tow vehicle...

[5vz-fe]

Yet again, this engine will not make it to the States / Canada.

[Mattk]

This car looks pretty good. Promising for diesel engines.

[Zot09]

Porsche, BMW, Jeep, MB, Infiniti (the only ones with a fast SUV) better look out now. :twisted:

Porsche has the Cayenne Turbo S, which I think is pretty damn fast.

BMW had the X5 4.8(I think it's 4.8), not sure what the new generation X5 will have.

MB has the new ML63(Once again, I believe it's the ML63).

[paradizzy]

I think that this diesel powerd Q7 point is not to kill X5 4.8 and ML63. That job will be done by RS model in future. This is just a powerfull disel SUV what happens to go quite fast.

[Shinigami]

It's pretty darn slow for a car.

Besides, there are SUV's which are faster then this as well.

Faster yes, but this will probably be one of the most drivable SUV. The monster torque curve means it will hardly require any gear change, and a better kick in the back.
Drivable? What is your definition of being drivable? Can it take corners? No, not very well unfortunately, and that doesn't make it drivable in my opinion.

[Bernardo]

I think that this diesel powerd Q7 point is not to kill X5 4.8 and ML63. That job will be done by RS model in future. This is just a powerfull disel SUV what happens to go quite fast.

wow was just thinking about that and that would be so damn sweet!I doubt they are going for it though

[Shinigami]

it drives veeery good... :D
You mean you drove the Q7?

I drove the Q7, as did a bunch of other people, and it drives pretty poorly.

But to each their definition of "driving". I don't consider being able to move a 2-5 ton SUV down a straight line on soft springs, as equating to "driving good". That's just able to create velocity, i.e. move an object in one direction. Anyone can do it, and having an engine with 1000nm of torque doesn't necessarily make this car all of a sudden "magical". It's just giving it a lot of power. The Q7 still drives like a POS.

[TNT]

It's pretty darn slow for a car.

Besides, there are SUV's which are faster then this as well.

Faster yes, but this will probably be one of the most drivable SUV. The monster torque curve means it will hardly require any gear change, and a better kick in the back.
Drivable? What is your definition of being drivable? Can it take corners? No, not very well unfortunately, and that doesn't make it drivable in my opinion.

take a look at the Cayenne and the Jeep SRT8. they handle pretty good IMO. for their size ans weight you can run them around a track pretty well.

[Shinigami]

And that is not the case of the Q7. I've proved my point ;)

[paradizzy]

So what if it handels not so good as Cayenne. It is much bigger car also and the big V12 diesel is making it more heavier. But what a engine. This car have no competitors yet.

[Shinigami]

Personally, I think the 700hp V12 diesel from Peugeot is much more interesting. Same amount of torque as well ;)

But it doesn't handle well, it rides like a whale, bobs up and down on the slightest bump on the road. So what, it has 1000nm of torque. It's still a diesel, and it's still slow. All it has going for it is 'size'. A Hummer is bigger tho'...

Anyway... I know I know... I tend to like smaller cars, but still. Something tells me this Q7 just won't sell all that much :\ Should be good if you want to pull a trailer tho'.

Let's not forget that a car like an S2000, has a 4 cylinder engine, weighs half as much, has half as much power, 5 times less torque, and goes just as fast. And I'd muuuuuuch rather be driving the S2000 then a Q7, at least the S2000 can take car corners and stays put down with more driving fun when you fling the rear end out ;) (oh, and it costs like 4 times less as well). Ok, so you can only be two people in a car, but that's fine with me, I'm such an grumpy old man anyways and I have no friends :lol: I'd rather drive a comfy saloon like an E or an S class... at least your friends will thank you, instead of them being flung around the cabin like they would be if they were sitting in the rear seat of the uncomfortable Q7)

[Skaala]

it drives veeery good... :D
You mean you drove the Q7?

I drove the Q7, as did a bunch of other people, and it drives pretty poorly.

But to each their definition of "driving". I don't consider being able to move a 2-5 ton SUV down a straight line on soft springs, as equating to "driving good". That's just able to create velocity, i.e. move an object in one direction. Anyone can do it, and having an engine with 1000nm of torque doesn't necessarily make this car all of a sudden "magical". It's just giving it a lot of power. The Q7 still drives like a POS.

Did you drive one with airsuspension? For a SUV I think it handeled great when I had one for testing on Norwegian roads. (we don't have autobahns, or higways of european or american standard) Put the airsuspension in Dynamic, and everything tightenes up.

I've driven the XC90, the X5, the touareg, and the cayenne, and I still think the Q7 is another league. the xc90 was to wobbely, the x5 too bumpy, the touareg had a rubbish gearbox, and the cayenne was too small an jerky.

[Shinigami]

It had typical Audi handling, i.e. not all that exciting, but worse due to the weight. Whilst some Audi's are quite nice, too many have a lead weight up front, and taking a corner at too high speeds in the Q7 resulted in understeer.

My GF sitting in the back felt like puking due to the wobbly and swaye ride.

[5vz-fe]

^All SUV will understeer when going in too hot.

[Shinigami]

And when it's an Audi, it doesn't even need to be an SUV to understeer ;)

No, but seriously. As badly as the Q7? I drove a Cayenne which went around corners quite well. A roundabout at over 50kph was possible. In the Q7, I was shitting my pants going just 30 :lol:

[Skaala]

It had typical Audi handling, i.e. not all that exciting, but worse due to the weight. Whilst some Audi's are quite nice, too many have a lead weight up front, and taking a corner at too high speeds in the Q7 resulted in understeer.

My GF sitting in the back felt like puking due to the wobbly and swaye ride.

And it had the adaptive air suspension istalled, and put in dynamic mode for driving on twisty roads?

[martin100]

OMG thats insane :shock: Never even thought Audi would release such a monster in the near future! 500bhp in a diesel should be truly powerful aswell as the 1000nm of torque... Audi really starts to become my favourite car maker :D

[Bernardo]

SUV's arent really for racetracks, so who really cares about how fast it can go around corners.., if you want a car that can do that buy a coupe or some sports car..almost everyone that has a SUV have another car in the garage or really dont care about corners and speed at all..

If i had to choose between those SUV's mentioned before i would look after the looks and 0-60 times.

[Mattk]

at least your friends will thank you, instead of them being flung around the cabin like they would be if they were sitting in the rear seat of the uncomfortable Q7

Is the use of seatbelts not standard practice in Switzerland?

The Q7 is not designed for cornering. In fact, like Bernardo said, it is really not designed to be a sports car. It is a very powerful, fast people-mover which people buy to haul stuff/people around with minimal effort and maximum comfort.

[JoeHahn]

at least your friends will thank you, instead of them being flung around the cabin like they would be if they were sitting in the rear seat of the uncomfortable Q7

Is the use of seatbelts not standard practice in Switzerland?

The Q7 is not designed for cornering. In fact, like Bernardo said, it is really not designed to be a sports car. It is a very powerful, fast people-mover which people buy to haul stuff/people around with minimal effort and maximum comfort.

Thats right. If you want a SUV for going around corners fast you need your head checked first. These things are all a gimic - like most heavy mercs/audis/anything, they have a powerful engine but still struggle at corners and its natural to do so. This isnt limited to SUVs either, a S8 - S65 or a 7 series will all handle to the best of their ability, that doesnt mean they will outshine a Boxster or a 350Z though.

You wont get an involving drive whether its with an X5, ML or Q7. A competent drive? sure. Just dont expect sportscar-like handling.

[Schwalbe]

I don't understand people who see powerful SUV like this Q7 V12 on racetracks, think more of kind of purpose like an Autobahn cruiser or for towing a trailers & boats. :wink:

[Skaala]

I don't understand people who see powerful SUV like this Q7 V12 on racetracks, think more of kind of purpose like an Autobahn cruiser or for towing a trailers & boats. :wink:

you're right. Good handeling is not a term that should be used overall, but it is to be used in it's class and size. So for a SUV, the Q7's got quite good handeling compared to the rest. For a sports car, not so good.

[Global Douchebag]

I don't understand people who see powerful SUV like this Q7 V12 on racetracks, think more of kind of purpose like an Autobahn cruiser or for towing a trailers & boats. :wink:

Yeah and at 5,000LBs + with 500HP its will mainly be seen driving too and from the gas station!! This thing will probably get like 7 miles to the gallon!

[Skaala]

crap... the norwegian price for the V12 TDi was estimated by audi dealers today. It will have a base price of $440.000 :|

[gucom]

hooooooly shit thats alot!!!

[Skaala]

hooooooly shit thats alot!!!

yep, because the tax system for cars in norway are based on weight, displacement, and hp. 2400kg+6.0l+500hp=440.000 dollars :cry:

[gucom]

darn, i always thought dutch cars were ridiculously expensive because of our taxes... but even here, you get a 599 Fiorano for a little under 300k (euros, not dollars)

[Skaala]

Engine pics from Paris

http://www.fourtitude.com/gallery/albums//Events/Paris%20Auto%20Show/2006/Audi%20Show%20Photos/034.jpg
http://www.fourtitude.com/gallery/albums//Events/Paris%20Auto%20Show/2006/Audi%20Show%20Photos/035.jpg
http://www.fourtitude.com/gallery/albums//Events/Paris%20Auto%20Show/2006/Audi%20Show%20Photos/036.jpg
http://www.fourtitude.com/gallery/albums//Events/Paris%20Auto%20Show/2006/Audi%20Show%20Photos/037.jpg
http://www.fourtitude.com/gallery/albums//Events/Paris%20Auto%20Show/2006/Audi%20Show%20Photos/038.jpg
http://www.fourtitude.com/gallery/albums//Events/Paris%20Auto%20Show/2006/Audi%20Show%20Photos/039.jpg

[StanAE86]

Damn....! I wish I could afford that damn thing. Power and torque to kill.

[Skaala]

http://www.fourtitude.com/gallery/albums//Events/Paris%20Auto%20Show/2006/Audi%20Show%20Photos/320.jpg
http://www.fourtitude.com/gallery/albums//Events/Paris%20Auto%20Show/2006/Audi%20Show%20Photos/318.jpg