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Toronto
09-08-2006, 06:55 PM
Friday 08 Sep 2006
Practice 1 11:00 - 12:00
Practice 2 14:00 - 15:00
Saturday 09 Sep 2006 Practice 11:00 - 12:00
Qualifying 14:00
Sunday 10 Sep 2006
Race 14:00
Race
Pos No Driver Team Laps Time/Retired Grid Points
1 5 Michael Schumacher Ferrari 53 Winner 2 10
2 3 Kimi Räikkönen McLaren-Mercedes 53 +8.0 secs 1 8
3 17 Robert Kubica Sauber-BMW 53 +26.4 secs 6 6
4 2 Giancarlo Fisichella Renault 53 +32.0 secs 9 5
5 12 Jenson Button Honda 53 +32.6 secs 5 4
6 11 Rubens Barrichello Honda 53 +42.4 secs 8 3
7 8 Jarno Trulli Toyota 53 +44.6 secs 11 2
8 16 Nick Heidfeld Sauber-BMW 53 +45.3 secs 3 1
9 6 Felipe Massa Ferrari 53 +45.9 secs 4
10 9 Mark Webber Williams-Cosworth 53 +72.6 secs 19
11 15 Christian Klien RBR-Ferrari 52 +1 Lap 16
12 14 David Coulthard RBR-Ferrari 52 +1 Lap 14
13 21 Scott Speed STR-Cosworth 52 +1 Lap 15
14 20 Vitantonio Liuzzi STR-Cosworth 52 +1 Lap 17
15 7 Ralf Schumacher Toyota 52 +1 Lap 13
16 22 Takuma Sato Super Aguri-Honda 51 +2 Lap 21
17 19 Christijan Albers MF1-Toyota 51 +2 Lap 18
Ret 18 Tiago Monteiro MF1-Toyota 44 +9 Lap 20
Ret 1 Fernando Alonso Renault 43 +10 Lap 10
Ret 4 Pedro de la Rosa McLaren-Mercedes 20 +33 Laps 7
Ret 23 Sakon Yamamoto Super Aguri-Honda 18 +35 Laps 22
Ret 10 Nico Rosberg Williams-Cosworth 9 +44 Laps 12
yg60m
09-09-2006, 01:39 AM
Any bet on Vettel replacing Kubica as he is soooooo fast ? :P
Joke apart, it seems Bridgestone has taken the edge on Michelin and I think we will see the two Ferraris in front tomorrow ...
saadie
09-09-2006, 02:09 AM
lol ... yeah .... vettle is way cooler then kubica :P ...
btw what has bridge stone gotta do with this ... ferrari is the only bridgestone runner up there :? ... hmm
ohh well .... .
im going for a 2 week long vication for camel racing tomorro at 6 .... the race is at 5 .. fekinshite .. :| ... i soo dont wanna miss it :(
bultaco_metralla
09-09-2006, 04:57 AM
Monza, The Speed Temple, Il Cavallino Rampante Home, Tifosi heaven!! Lets see how many points Schumi is going to reduce...!!! run Alonso, run!!!
Vettel looks awesome, i didnt hear anything about him....
Saadie, listen to the radio!!
saadie
09-09-2006, 05:21 AM
lol .... i'll be on a plane .... and this country sucks .... none of the radio channels broadcast sporting events :( .....
btw .. the 3rd practice is on ..... SATO on POLE :D :mrgreen:
nickthaskater
09-09-2006, 06:41 AM
Saturday Practice Results -
Times
01 F. Massa Ferrari 1:21.665 12 laps
02 N. Heidfeld BMW 1:22.052 13 laps
03 M. Schumacher Ferrari 1:22.257 14 laps
04 R. Kubica BMW 1:22.280 12 laps
05 F. Alonso Renault 1:22.371 15 laps
06 G. Fisichella Renault 1:22.412 15 laps
07 K. Räikkönen McLaren 1:22.682 11 laps
08 R. Barrichello Honda 1:22.835 18 laps
09 P. de la Rosa McLaren 1:22.915 11 laps
10 C. Klien Red Bull 1:23.081 11 laps
11 R. Schumacher Toyota 1:23.244 17 laps
12 J. Button Honda 1:23.295 15 laps
13 N. Rosberg Williams 1:23.334 8 laps
14 J. Trulli Toyota 1:23.467 15 laps
15 D. Coulthard Red Bull 1:23.536 9 laps
16 M. Webber Williams 1:23.599 8 laps
17 S. Speed Scuderia Toro Rosso 1:23.659 20 laps
18 V. Liuzzi Scuderia Toro Rosso 1:23.777 20 laps
19 C. Albers Midland F1 1:24.186 17 laps
20 T. Monteiro Midland F1 1:24.541 14 laps
21 T. Sato Super Aguri 1:24.549 25 laps
22 S. Yamamoto Super Aguri 1:24.717 19 laps
Toronto
09-09-2006, 10:29 AM
Any bet on Vettel replacing Kubica as he is soooooo fast ? :P
I am sure Vettel is running an illegal car. (weight and so on)
and it this thread doesn't seem like it is getting that much action, concedering this might be schumi's last race infront of the Tifosi?
saadie
09-09-2006, 11:57 AM
hes not running an illegal car ....
hes got no rev limit range ;) ....... exactly what kubica had when he was a test driver .... he was on the top of the board aswell .... and now just look at his GP performance in the previous races .... if he dose the best drive of his life . he'd end up in 6th place ;) .....
anyways ... good to see heidfeld up there thats a cool job he did :)
sameerrao
09-09-2006, 12:08 PM
A lot closer at the front than I originally expected. I thought the Ferraris would be a good distance ahead. Possibly Raikkonen and Heidfeld are running a tad lighter but great job nonetheless.
Looks like the addition of Kubica has made Heidfeld step up his game. He seemed to be comfortable in the background when a slow Villenueve was around.
I was exciting to see Alonso get into the pits and leave with barely enough time to start his flying lap - he made it with less than 2 seconds to spare. Cool!
I am dreading tomorrow's announcement as it looks highly likely that Michael will bow out. Crap - sad to see such a paragon of excellence leave us.
5vz-fe
09-09-2006, 12:29 PM
Damn....I really really wanted to see Schumi vs Kimi
03200165
09-09-2006, 12:55 PM
I love Monza, it's so fast!
Fleischmann
09-09-2006, 03:22 PM
MONZA 2006 QUALIFYING - RESULTS:
1.21,484 (01.) Kimi Raikkonen (McLaren-Mercedes)
1.21,486 (02.) Michael Schumacher (Ferrari)
1.21,653 (03.) Nick Heidfeld (BMW Sauber)
1.21,704 (04.) Felipe Massa (Ferrari)
1.22,011 (05.) Jenson Button (Honda)
1.22,258 (06.) Robert Kubica (BMW Sauber)
1.22,280 (07.) Pedro de la Rosa (McLaren-Mercedes)
1.22,787 (08.) Rubens Barrichello (Honda)
1.23,175 (09.) Giancarlo Fisichella (Renault)
1.21,829 (10.) Fernando Alonso (Renault)
1.21,924 (11.) Jarno Trulli (Toyota)
1.22,203 (12.) Nico Rosberg (Williams-Cosworth)
1.22,280 (13.) Ralf Schumacher (Toyota)
1.22,589 (14.) David Coulthard (Red Bull)
1.23,165 (15.) Scott Speed (Toro Rosso)
NO TIME (16.) Christian Klien (Red Bull) bez czasu
1.23,043 (17.) Vitantonio Liuzzi (Toro Rosso)
1.23,116 (18.) Christijan Albers (Midland)
1.23,341 (19.) Mark Webber (Williams-Cosworth)
1.23,920 (20.) Tiago Monteiro (Midland)
1.24,289 (21.) Takuma Sato (Super Aguri)
1.26,001 (22.) Sakon Yamamoto (Super Aguri)
5vz-fe
09-09-2006, 04:05 PM
Alonso given penalty, bumped to 10th on the grid.
I woke up late this morning, does anyone has a replay of the Alonso Massa incident?
fsandys
09-09-2006, 05:03 PM
I was gonna ask for a source of this info but found one:
http://www.formula1.com/race/news/4923/765.html
I missed that somehow :shock: :D
SFDMALEX
09-09-2006, 06:54 PM
Well he was on a slow down lap, so he shoulda just let MAssa though.
On our TVs the distance look big but in reality it was no more then .2, which is dead close in race situation, besides the aero effect is huge even with that distance.
gangajas
09-09-2006, 07:13 PM
I can't understand that penalty to Alonso...
http://i7.tinypic.com/2r29cbb.jpg
http://i5.tinypic.com/2rc99jk.jpg
Toronto
09-09-2006, 07:22 PM
hes not running an illegal car ....
hes got no rev limit range ;) ....... exactly what kubica had when he was a test driver .... he was on the top of the board aswell .... and now just look at his GP performance in the previous races .... if he dose the best drive of his life . he'd end up in 6th place ;) .....
anyways ... good to see heidfeld up there thats a cool job he did :)
ok it does have no rev limit your right. but i would bet any amount of money that his car was not legal weight. ANY AMOUNT OF MONEY. you can take the weight out of schumi's car and he will blow your mind with the time he can prob. put down in a illegal car :wink:
nickthaskater
09-09-2006, 07:23 PM
Well he was on a slow down lap, so he shoulda just let MAssa though.
On our TVs the distance look big but in reality it was no more then .2, which is dead close in race situation, besides the aero effect is huge even with that distance.
Yea at the speeds reached around Monza, and the fact you're running bare minimum downforce to begin with, it's not entirely unbelievable that Alonso could've affected Massa (though it is definitely questionable). Alonso was on a a warmup lap as well, after having just pitted for fresh tires.
Mattk
09-10-2006, 12:55 AM
Alonso given penalty, bumped to 10th on the grid.
Excellent. This will heat up the race for the driver's championship.
nejcdolinsek
09-10-2006, 03:59 AM
Whoa, I just woke up and read the news...... :shock:
This is going to be an interesting race. I just hope MS with the help of FM, KM and anyone else stays in front of FA. And for christs sake, DON'T make a similar mistake as in Hungary.... :roll:
For some reason, I have a really bad feeling about this race when it comes to MS/Ferrari.
bultaco_metralla
09-10-2006, 04:08 AM
Another Fia manouveur.... this situation starts to suck, damn suckers...
nthfinity
09-10-2006, 04:40 AM
Another Fia manouveur.... this situation starts to suck, damn suckers...
while i'm no fan of Alonso, it is BS
5vz-fe
09-10-2006, 05:43 AM
YouTube
The full decision of the stewards
A report was received from the race director that stated that the driver of car no. 1, Fernando Alonso, had impeded another driver during qualifying, namely Felipe Massa, car no. 6.
The stewards, after hearing the explanation of both the drivers, their team managers, and having seen video evidence and data supplied by Scuderia Ferrari Marlboro, find that:
1. Fernando Alonso was on his out-lap and, having been caught by Felipe Massa, did impede him;
2. To impede another driver during the qualifying practice session is an offence (Article 116b of the 2006 Formula 1 Sporting Regulations);
3. Such actions may not have been deliberate.
The stewards determine that a breach of the regulations has occurred during qualifying practice and by virtue of the provisions of the 2006 Formula 1 Sporting Regulations Article 112 order that the best three laps set by Fernando Alonso in the third period of qualifying be deleted.
Signed by Tony Scott-Andrews, Enzo Spano and Alessandro Tibiletti.
http://www.itv-f1.com/News_Article.aspx?PO_ID=37287
Mattk
09-10-2006, 05:46 AM
3. Such actions may not have been deliberate.
There's the clincher.
nthfinity
09-10-2006, 07:40 AM
3. Such actions may not have been deliberate.
There's the clincher.
after the incident at Manaco, that is why they punished Alonso....
Toronto
09-10-2006, 09:44 AM
amazing race. bye bye schumi - The Greatest EVER.
zondamaniac
09-10-2006, 09:57 AM
Thank You MSC, Now Go And Get That World Championships!
Fleischmann
09-10-2006, 10:00 AM
Great race!!
His 3rd race and already a place on the podium. Robert Kubica was fantastic today, especially at the beginning of the race, when by the time he finished the first corner he was 3 places up. He also had a lot of luck with Alonso's engine blowing up, that doesn't happen very often. And Massa, who was right behing him ran off the tarmac, damaged his car and was forced to visit the pits. From then on it was a cruise for Kubica, with a 8 second advantage and ~10 laps to go he couldn't waste the opportunity. BMW Sauber still need to improve, their pit stops aren't as quick as the rivals.
Schumacher couldn't have asked for a better scenario. He drove very well and deserved the 10 points, his main rival Alonso having to forfeit the race due to engine problems. 2 points difference with only 3 races to go should make for a scorching season finale. It's just a shame it will be Schumacher's last :(
A very nice race and a very sad ending..
All good things have an ending or somethin like that..
Thank's for the Race MSC and best of luck next time Alonso..
I always wanted Alonso to win this Chapian ship but now I really want MSC to win. Alonso got couple of more years before he retires..
sameerrao
09-10-2006, 10:10 AM
Thanks for the memories Michael. You were the best driver of my generation and possibly one of the best of all time!!! Go out in style - win both championships
nickthaskater
09-10-2006, 10:12 AM
"Ferrari announces that the agreement with the driver Felipe Massa has been extended until the end of the 2008 season. Ferrari also announces that it has reached an agreement with the driver Kimi Raikkonen to cover the 2007, 2008 and 2009 racing seasons. Massa and Raikkonen will form the Scuderia's official line-up as of 2007. Luca Badoer will be the official test driver."
http://www.f1technical.net/news/3933
/is gutted that Schumacher is leaving...
Raikkonen has some Ronald McDonald-sized shoes to fill.
Mattk
09-10-2006, 10:22 AM
2 points difference with only 3 races to go should make for a scorching season finale.
Yes! Just what I wanted. A fight to the death! Although Schumacher will probably win. The Ferraris just seem to have the edge.
nthfinity
09-10-2006, 11:28 AM
Thanks for the memories Michael. You were the best driver of my generation and possibly the best of all time!!! Go out in style - win both championships
honestly, I don't think we'll see anybody touch Michael's records in our lifetimes... I could be mistaken... but what a wild trip he's taken all racing fans.
F1 will never be the same w/out him, in his Scuderia Ferrari Tifosi style. I'm very sure his family will be very glad to have so much time with him for the first time.
I must say... the commentary felt as if they were putting him out to pasture :( making boysterous comments such as "the old MS didn't use to make those mistakes" which is utter BS.... he's crashed out many times, he's locked up many times since his F1 debut. He's not perfect 100% of the time... but he is very fast most of the time...
I do wonder if he'll make a return in some time... but i doubt it.
sameerrao
09-10-2006, 11:45 AM
^ I doubt it too ... To him racing in another class would be a step down with lots to risk and not too much reward. At least that would be his frame of mind now. But after a break of 3 years or so - he might be itching to do some form of racing - like DTM or something like Mika. But the probabilities are low.
xecutioner
09-10-2006, 11:48 AM
great win by him in the race
he totally owned it from the 1st pit stop
poor poor alonso lol
but
i would a loved to see schui with kimmi next year
prob the best driver i have seen and i cant see anyone comin close to wat he has done for f1 again
god damn l'll miss watchin him in f1
ive enjoyed watchin him drive past infront of me live in the last 10 years at the melb f1
the pic in my avarta is the last look i have had of hes car in person
sad day in f1 for most ppl
SFDMALEX
09-10-2006, 11:48 AM
Well, Micheal to me is the Greatest of All Time. And by that mean technical driver. I dont think anyone knows "the car" better then Micheal. Once he is strapped in, he is a machine. In my opinion, not trying to start "who is the best" argument. :wink:
He very well might take the 8th Championship. Which is rediculous.
We will tell our kids about this guy...Prolly one of the few athletes of our time thats worth mentioning in 50 years. And Lance, I cant think of anyone else.
And Kimi one of my favorite drivers @ Ferrari. How cool is that :D
gucom
09-10-2006, 11:58 AM
wow amazing race :D and an even more amazing 3 races ahead possibly...
was VERY, VERY weird to see him say goodbye, i grew up watching F1 with him being the "big guy", sort of the king of F1, i dont think ive ever seen a race without him (except when he broke his legs ofcourse)...
Like SFD said, he's 1 of those guys i'll tell my kids about later, 1 of the biggest legends ever in (motor)sports... indeed, wit hthe exception of lance i cant really think of any other "current" sportsman that'll be remembered like he will. Maybe roger federer will some day grow out to be such a dominating person in tennis...
xecutioner
09-10-2006, 12:48 PM
there apparently sayin he made up hes mind in july but i do agree that he so didnt wanna retire
btw wats wrong with flavio
hes lost hes mind
MONZA, Italy, Sept 10 (Reuters) - Renault team boss Flavio Briatore compared Formula One to Italian soccer's match-fixing scandal and said that the outcome of the championship had been decided "around a table".
nickthaskater
09-10-2006, 01:01 PM
Unless someone held a gun to Fonz's head telling him to push the engine as hard as he did today, then the outcome is their own fault. No different than Schumacher trying to hold onto position in Hungary instead of just focusing on damage control and taking the top-5. Lord knows how much flak he recieved over that move...
TopGearNL
09-10-2006, 01:14 PM
Im so glad that Spyker Formula 1 is a fact now. They are going to sell shares on the stock market over here, so Ive heard. I might buy some :mrgreen:
After MS press announcement this race I want him even more to get that 8th World Championship. Surely that won't be beaten ever again, if so I will be very surprised!
He said that he'll still be active with Ferrari in F1, maybe he will take over from Jean Todt, who knows?
Anyway, Said to see MS go, but we could have expected it.
Thanks Micheal for all the great moments and other tributes/records you brought to F1 :wink:
5vz-fe
09-10-2006, 01:15 PM
http://www.planet-f1.com/News/Story_Page/0,15909,3210_3213_1489316,00.html
"I think one per cent of people here will be happy today - those who yesterday decided the race. I hope they sleep well tonight."
Yep, he speaks what he thinks alright.
http://img216.imageshack.us/img216/8414/42069834alonsogetty203ug1.jpg
SFDMALEX
09-10-2006, 01:36 PM
oh my "dislike" for Alonso is getting stronge by day.
Wait till Kimi ripps him a 4th asshole next season.
He was born with an asshole. Flavio gave him another one. Schumi is gonna rip him a 3rd one, and Kimi will give him the 4th one.
5vz-fe
09-10-2006, 01:39 PM
^LOL!!!!!
Alonso aside, BMW's performance is quite impressive. Kubica made him self famous today by snatching 3rd for BMW's first season.
nickthaskater
09-10-2006, 01:44 PM
He was born with an asshole. Flavio gave him another one. Schumi is gonna rip him a 3rd one, and Kimi will give him the 4th one.
rofl @ ^ and at the grumpy Alonso pic :roflmao:
yellky
09-10-2006, 02:01 PM
exactly what kubica had when he was a test driver .... he was on the top of the board aswell .... and now just look at his GP performance in the previous races .... if he dose the best drive of his life . he'd end up in 6th place ;) .....
yeah, say that again :lol:
ZfrkS62
09-10-2006, 02:51 PM
ARRRRGH!!!!
I forgot to record the race last night and i turned on the replay just in time to hear Schumacher's announcement :x The one fuckin race i absolutely had to see and i miss it :x
3 races to go, 2 points off from Alonso...i would say an engine failure today surely seals up a full fledged choke on Alonso's end.
Would i be shocked to see Alonso pull an Adelade and try to take out Schumi at Suzuka if he was losing? maybe a little, but most of my money is going to ride on him just losing focus :D
nickthaskater
09-10-2006, 02:58 PM
I'm just glad Alonso actually has to try and win the races now, instead of settling for consecutive runner-ups.
McLaren4eVa
09-10-2006, 04:18 PM
Too bad about schumi he really will be missed(unlike villeneuve said). Kimi to ferrari can't say i wanted it but if he manages to win the titile next year than he really deserves it. He could have been world champion twice by now, had it not been for mclaren's unreliability. Oh and he would have been the youngest world champion in 03 had he won the title.
5vz-fe
09-10-2006, 04:40 PM
^No kidding, I already lost count of how many times Kimi in the lead w/ an engine failure.
jenkF1
09-10-2006, 04:56 PM
Tis a shame we where robbed of a Kimi vs Schumi showdown which could hv been comparable to Senna vs Prost. But hes certianly left on a high. Its difficult to swallow and I think he still has it, but...
end of an era :cry:
I do believe the FIA is biased towards Ferrari and the decision was bad, but Alonsos engine failed and hes still a moaning c*nt
5vz-fe
09-10-2006, 07:21 PM
^No kidding.....BMW took Sauber all the way to podium, that's quite some achivement. Tho next year we need to adjust to F1 without Schumi, but it looks pretty interesting.
bmagni
09-10-2006, 10:16 PM
great race !! i loved the crowd cheering alonsos blow up !!! hehehe
MSC retiring is good IMO, hes probably the best driver ever and hes made exceptional things that are probably not going to be equalized soon...
anyways the championship is gettin better and better, its gonna be a photo finish !
bmagni
09-10-2006, 11:43 PM
btw, i forgot, is alonso going to be penalized for changing his engine for the next race ??
bmagni
09-11-2006, 01:06 AM
I think earlier this season, Schumi blew his engine just before crossing the finish line so as to get a new engine for the next race without penalty, it was either earlier this season or last season!!
that was Button @ Australia.
So Alonso won't get penalized.
bmagni
09-11-2006, 01:53 AM
just some comments.
Flasshole Briatore: "The result was influenced...."
di Montezemolo: "In life you need a bit of class, I prefer not to answer..."
Mattk
09-11-2006, 02:13 AM
http://sport.guardian.co.uk/formulaone/story/0,,1869534,00.html
Here's another article about Briatore and his accusations.
5vz-fe
09-11-2006, 03:12 AM
Sore Losers?
Legality of Bridgestone tires in Monza
http://f1.racing-live.com/f1/en/headlines/news/detail/060911090205.shtml
nejcdolinsek
09-11-2006, 06:21 AM
great race !! i loved the crowd cheering alonsos blow up !!! hehehe
LOL, I noticed that too... the crowd was louder than the cars! :shock: :lol:
nickthaskater
09-11-2006, 02:31 PM
Raikkonen was running on Michelins and he was able to come within 2-thousandths of Michael's qualy time, and stayed ahead or within 2 seconds of Schumacher during the race.
Renault need to stop crying for a while and instead figure out how to go faster.
Mattk
09-13-2006, 03:16 AM
Raikkonen was running on Michelins and he was able to come within 2-thousandths of Michael's qualy time
More like get pole position. Bridgestone had a slight edge at Monza. Too bad for Michelin. Ferrari had the wood over everyone at Monza. Too bad for everyone else. They've just got to improve for the next race.
5vz-fe
09-14-2006, 02:29 AM
Good old conspiracy theory again :P~
http://www.pitpass.com/fes_php/pitpass_news_item.php?fes_art_id=29317
if they are so toxic, I don't believe that guy will be holding an icecream like snack on his hand.
Mattk
09-14-2006, 08:41 AM
This conspiracy theory isn't much of a theory. More like a joke.
5vz-fe
09-14-2006, 04:42 PM
Yep, we are still waiting for the lab results to prove that icecream will increase tire grip / reduce tire wear over 20 laps. it may also increase aerodynamic efficiency.......Ferrar are cheating obviously, can't you ppl see it?
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