An AWD CTR "Yellowbird" - 1 of 2

[RC45]

A close look at one of the greatest Porsche-based cars ever to turn a wheel in anger any where at any time.

These images should keep you entertained till the "Showcase" is complete.

And here is a little writeup about this cars twin, to keep the naysayers at bay.. - you know - the folks that think I am full of shit... ;) :P

http://www.race-cars.com/carsold/porsche/1055179148/1055179148ss.htm

1990 Porsche RUF YellowBird CTR C4

Serial Number: WPOAB 2961LS451416
Condition: Excellent
Price: US $189,500 OBO Currency_Convert
Location: New Jersey, USA

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Description
The Ruf 'YellowBird' CTR, with Phil Hill driving, was declared 'THE FASTEST CAR IN THE WORLD' by Road & Track Magazine. AWESOME, with 550hp and Twin Turbos,- this agressive 200+mph - Zero to 60 in 2.8 seconds, ALL-WHEEL-DRIVE, Ruf Rocket "YellowBird" CTR was built, from the platform up, by RUF GmbH in Pfaffenhassen, Germany in 1993, approximately 3,000 miles ago, at the the whopping cost of $ 285,780.00. Formerly David Beddor owned/Steve Beddor driven - the Beddors made worldwide news with their sure footed All Wheel Drive YellowBirds in Road & Track / Car and Driver and on ESPN news. It's in Show Condition and has been maintained by Ruf experts all of its life with no expenses spared. This is not just a patchwork of installed Ruf parts (as many claimed Rufs are). This Ruf Rocket was built by Ruf from the bodypan up - as a genuine 'YellowBird' and sold by by Robert DeMars LTD for David Beddor & Mr. Ruf himself in 1997. One of the last CTR 1s made on the 964 platform - it's fully street driveable with a Kevlar lighweight body and Black lightweight interior (plus added Power Windows & Air Conditioning) and ideal for Autocross or other 'go to the head of the class' Racing. Just 23 'YellowBirds' were made, at immense cost, from 1987 to 1995, and this - the last, fastest, safest (and most expensive) model , is one of only two (2) AWD CTRs ever made. Kevlar Body/Lightweight Glass/Roll Cage/Recarros/Simson Harness/Fuel Cell/Ruf 6-Speed Transmission and 4 WHEEL DRIVE TO GET THE ENORMEOUS POWER TO THE GROUND. It will beat anything Ferrari / Lamborghini / McLaren can put up against it! A video is available for serious buyers.

History
Ruf is respected worldwide for performance and RELIABILITY. The 'YellowBird' CTR was brought forth just in time for Road & Track's 2nd running of the "World's Fastest Cars" tests with Phil Hill as one of the comparative test drivers. 3 years earlier, a Ruf BTR had won the 1st "World's Fastest Cars" test with a 183mph run. What Ruf had in store with the release of the CTR 'YellowBird' in 1987, would started a tradition of 200+mph automobiles that has only recently been legitimately challenged by the McLaren F1 (a $1 Million plus RaceCar). The first of the Blazingly fast Ruf CTRs quickly became known as the "Yellow Bird", a nickname given by Road & Track to reflect the original CTR RocketSleds bright yellow . Many cars were run that day, in 1987 -including a Lamborghini Countach, Ferrari Boxer, and a couple of Porsche 959s. By the end of the tests - it was obvious: The Ruf had absolutely no competition ! Even the ultimate Porsche 959 was beaten by over 13mph in top speed! The 'YellowBird' is now known throughout 911 circles as one of the most remarkable Porsche road cars ever made, with the 2 AWDs being the rarest and most highly refined. --------To SportsCar Collectors who know rarity and value, you might say - it's the L88 of Porsches !

Recent Competition History
As shown on ESPN, Steve Beddor driving his Black 'YellowBird' CTR (twin to the Polar White David Beddor CTR) appeared to have won "One Lap of America 1995" until he was heavily penalized for "being late" for showing up the Drag Racing event (he won that event too) but then was penalized as 'late' (a broken ignition switch had delayed his showing). Steve in his 'YellowBird' STILL won 8 of the "One Lap" events that year. Some wins by Steve and David in this White AWD CTR include 1st Virginia City Hillclimb 1995 David (time 3:24) /1st Virginia City Hill Climb 1992 ( Marilyn Beddor)/ Pikes Peak Hill Climb 1994 (3rd ) / The Silver State Classic (Marilyn) / Track Record, David at Brainerd International Raceway 1994 (217.7 sec) and many others. The Beddor Brothers today drive 2 Ruf ' YellowBird' AWD CTR2s built in 1997 on the 993 platform (with less horsepower, 530hp, but slightly lighter bodies). Watch for news !

Performance Data
Weight: 2900 lbs

Engine
Type: Ruf CTR Twin Turbo, Horizontally opposed 6 cylinder
Displacement: 3600cc
Horsepower: 550 Hp
Torque: 505
Induction: Twin KKK turbochargers, twin wastegates and intercoolers
Heads: SOHC aluminum heads
Block: SOHC aluminum block
Pistons: 8.0:1
Bore and stroke: 3.94

Fuel System
Fuel Cell
Manufacturer: Huntington Systems
Electrical System
Ignition: Bosch ignition

Transmission
Type: Ruf developed 6 Spd w/HiPerformance clutch

Rear End
Type: 4WD system by Ruf (not just Porsche)

Body
Construction: Lightweight Kevlar body panels/lightweight glass, Ruf flares
Color: Polar White paint
Condition: VG condition
Hi Performance Whale Tail

Chassis
Type: Ruf-designed and -manufactured components Integrated roll cage (IRC) linking A- and B-pillars
Front Suspension: MacPherson struts, Ruf-calibrated coil springs and dampers, anti-roll bar;
Rear Suspension: Multilink, Ruf-calibrated coil springs and dampers, anti-roll bar
Shocks: tbd
Brakes: 4 wheel disc by Ruf
Steering: developed by Ruf
Wheels: Ruf 18

Interior
Color/Finish: full lightweight interior w/lightweight panels and carpeting
Material: power windows
Restraints: dual Recarro Race seats w/Simpson 5 point racing seat belts

Spares
complete Ruf Catalytic Converter (bolt on type for street driving)


And a bit about this car - from 2004
http://autojunkie.blogspot.com/2004/02/damn.html

Tuesday, February 03, 2004

Damn.. if only $60K was burning a whole in my pocket.

RUF at Barrett Jackson

"1990 PORSCHE RUF `YELLOWBIRD' CTR COUPE
LOT #724 - NO RESERVE

2004 BJCCA CCA
SOLD FOR $59,400

OPTIONS
COLOR - BLACK
TRANS - 6-SPEED
CYLINDERS - 6
VIN - WP0AB2966LS450200

The original Steve Beddor AWD Street & Track AutoCross `YellowBird'. Alosis Rufs calls it his "Racecar" ! The original RUF `YellowBird' CTR was declared "the fastest Sportscar in the world" by Road & Track magazine. This 550hp, Twin-Turbo Steve Beddor, Ruf Rocket was the final culmination of the Series 1 CTR development. Awesome 200mph+, 0 to 60 in 2.8 seconds. The lightweight, Aluminum/Kevlar bodied ShowCar, flown to Germany and was completely rebuilt from the platform (tub) in 1992-93 from his 1990 US 'Carrera 4' at a development cost of over $316K. With approximately 3,500 miles since RUF build - it is #1 of only 2 Ruf, All Wheel Drive, "YellowBirds". The Twin-Turbo, Ruf 6-Speed, Ruf Brakes/Suspension, Adjustable Turbo Boost & AWD Terror was developed for AutoCross/Street driveable. Equipped with a Rollcage, Lightweight Interior, Recarro race buckets & racing Harness."
Yikes!!





And the Barret Jackson link - with images:
http://www.barrett-jackson.com/auctionresults/common/cardetail.asp?id=175174

original Steve Beddor AWD Street & Track AutoCross `YellowBird'. Alosis Rufs calls it his "Racecar" ! The original RUF `YellowBird' CTR was declared "the fastest Sportscar in the world" by Road & Track magazine. This 550hp, Twin-Turbo Steve Beddor, Ruf Rocket was the final culmination of the Series 1 CTR development. Awesome 200mph+, 0 to 60 in 2.8 seconds. The lightweight, Aluminum/Kevlar bodied ShowCar, flown to Germany and was completely rebuilt from the platform (tub) in 1992-93 from his 1990 US 'Carrera 4' at a development cost of over $316K. With approximately 3,500 miles since RUF build - it is #1 of only 2 Ruf, All Wheel Drive, "YellowBirds". The Twin-Turbo, Ruf 6-Speed, Ruf Brakes/Suspension, Adjustable Turbo Boost & AWD Terror was developed for AutoCross/Street driveable. Equipped with a Rollcage, Lightweight Interior, Recarro race buckets & racing Harness.



Oh - and these 2 cars are what the Brothers Beddor replaced their unique 1990 964 AWD CTR Yellowbirds with - just as unique 993 based CTR2's ;)
http://www.nsxfiles.com/images/vc97big_two_rufs.jpg

And now the JW specific WYST images


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[blackenzo]

thats a 964 model so how can it be a yellowbird

[r2r]

I actually like the look of this Porsche considering I'm not a fan of the 911 shape.

One thing though, I really hate those big RUF stickers (or I hope they’re stickers) on both sides of the car.

Pretty cool stuff, hope there a video of it driving :)

[RC45]

I actually like the look of this Porsche considering I'm not a fan of the 911 shape.

One thing though, I really hate those big RUF stickers (or I hope they’re stickers) on both sides of the car.

Pretty cool stuff, hope there a video of it driving :)

The stickers were applied by the first owner (and his brother to his car - the one had this black car, the other an identical white one ) and this is how both cars were entered into various race events.

:)


thats a 964 model so how can it be a yellowbird

You don't believe me then? ;)

Willing to bet $10,000 on the answer? ;)

And you obviously havent been following the other threads about this car in the Porsche forum have you? ;)

BTW, what year is your dads 964 Turbo? You know there was a 964 Turbo... and a 965?

[nickthaskater]

Dude, it was a simple question... How about just giving him an answer instead of getting bitchfesty?

[r2r]

Just found some quick info on this car

"The original RUF `YellowBird' CTR was declared "the fastest Sportscar in the world" by Road & Track magazine."


550hp, 200mph+, 0 to 60 in 2.8 seconds :shock: thats all anybody really needs to know. Must be a great handling car as well with awd!!

[RC45]

Dude, it was a simple question... How about just giving him an answer instead of getting bitchfesty?

"Dude" - I did answer him.

His "question" was insinuating that the post was wrong - so I corrected his "incorrect correction".

He (and you) now have more than enough info to your happy little selves busy for a day or 2.

I have said it before - and will say it again, I don't post bullshit - ever.

Oh - take this reply how ever you want to... I really don't give a hoot.

[blackenzo]

my dads car is a 1993 965 turbo 3.6 and no did not read about this car before but the yellowbird is based on a 930 as dani d mas said

[RC45]

my dads car is a 1993 965 turbo 3.6 and no did not read about this car before but the yellowbird is based on a 930 as dani d mas said

Well, as exlained to me by various Porsche insiders, and the Porsche archivist Marc Bongers - your dads car is a 965 then.. the name 965 implies a Turbo car.

The 964 Turbo would have been from 1990 forward using the 3.3l Turbo motor, an the 965 (no need for the Turbo moniker - it is implied) uses the 3.6l motor ;)

OK - so back to the RUF CTR option - which was available as a completely bilt car from 1987 through 1993.

The first 23 (as far as we can tell - RUF will be confirmign this in the next week) were in fact pre-964 911 based (but not based on the Turbo interestingly - but a their own 3366cc Turno engine)

The last 2 CTR 1's commisione din 1993 were built using 2 C4 964 cars. The AWD system and 6 speed transmisiosn are of RUF design.

Anyway, why exactly am I debating with you the pedigree and heritage of a well documented pair of cars?

The white and black pair of 964 CTR1 AWD cars correctly carry the nick name "Yellowbird" because they are in fact "Yellowbirds".

No one is claiming this car to be the the ORIGINAL yellow "Yellowbird" - but rest assured, all CTR 1's were affectionately called "Yellowbird".. ;)

Anywaaaayyyyyyyy..

The entire point of this thread was to share one of the most badass cars ever to be featured on JW with your folks...

If you would prefer, I could just delete the thread and then you need no longer be offended by the 964 Yellowbird as it obviously means a lot to you. ;)

[nickthaskater]

You're the only one getting bent out of shape in this thread RC. Not everyone knows every little detail about every little car (you were in that position at one point believe it or not), so if someone doesn't know, why not just inform them politely instead of being an asshole about it?

Anyways, enough about you, that is indeed an awe inspiring car, though it is hard to link the Yellowbird name to an AWD model, especially after watching Stefan tear up the 'Ring in the RWD variant.

[5vz-fe]

ABS On/Off, now that's a good feature.
I guess the variable (with knob on dash) AWD is the Ruf special. Very "interesting" turbo boost controller :P~

Thanks RC, we'll probably never get a ride off it, but knowing u are blown away by it can give us a relative reference on how fast the car is. Cheers...and back to bed.

[pzgren]

the nickname yellowbird was given from the journalist who've been on the racetrack where they've tested several supercars years ago. it was very rainy those days and the yellow ruf car was the only one who was visible from far away in those wet conditions. that's why the created the nickname yellowbird.


btw very nice car, i like the pictures. must be a hell of a ride - thx RC

[harryo2b]

Not bad... :wink:

Yes, although not original RUF VIN# a full conversion would consider it to be a RUF automobile and a remarkable one at that. Insane $316K development costs?! :shock:

The Beddor bros yellow CTR-2 Sports were used for hill climbing I do believe.

Brings me back to the memories of trying to secure ownership of a 1995 BTR-2... :cry:

[blackenzo]

the yellowbird at the time held the record for the fastest lap at the ring for a long time and beat the f40 its rival at the time this is what made ruf who they are today and are still building phenomenal cars my dad met ellios ruf and i have now got a personally signed picture by mr fuf of the yellowbird done by a top artist.

IM A BIG FAN OF RUF!!!!!!

[nthfinity]

the yellowbird at the time held the record for the fastest lap at the ring for a long time and beat the f40 its rival at the time this is what made ruf who they are today and are still building phenomenal cars my dad met ellios ruf and i have now got a personally signed picture by mr fuf of the yellowbird done by a top artist.

IM A BIG FAN OF RUF!!!!!!


thats wonderful, but even porsche fans learn about certain "non-existant" P-cars... I have one such "non-existant" P car on the way.... :D 8) :wink:.... one that just might pull the stops on this 964 CTR.... and is older then it too...
hehe :D

[novass]

Sweet car! Seems to be kind of a mismatch to put it up against a VW bug though :P

[TT]

I love the 964 shape a lot, that's basically why I wanted it to be my first Porsche, but I guess it will be the second now ;)

And this RUF must be mad. Remove the stickers and it's till pretty much a sleeper, looking like tons of kitted 911 hitting our streets any day ;)

[harryo2b]

ellios ruf? Who is that :) I think you mean Alois Ruf. :twisted:

Also if all goes well I should have another RUF car reviewed for JW viewing pleasure the end of this month, let's say something along the lines of 650 hp...

[JoeHahn]

the yellowbird at the time held the record for the fastest lap at the ring for a long time and beat the f40 its rival at the time this is what made ruf who they are today and are still building phenomenal cars my dad met ellios ruf and i have now got a personally signed picture by mr fuf of the yellowbird done by a top artist.

IM A BIG FAN OF RUF!!!!!!


thats wonderful, but even porsche fans learn about certain "non-existant" P-cars... I have one such "non-existant" P car on the way.... :D 8) :wink:.... one that just might pull the stops on this 964 CTR.... and is older then it too...
hehe :D

Please tell me its a 911 SC RS or a RS 3.0 road-version :)

[nthfinity]

Please tell me its a 911 SC RS or a RS 3.0 road-version


It is turbocharged... and is quoted as being "917 for the road!" :wink:

[RC45]

You're the only one getting bent out of shape in this thread RC.

Uhm - no I am not - I simply posted the car. Then all the know-it-all punk yahoos arrive trying to "tell the real truth"

FFS People - I have direct access to RUF... if I tell you its a "model xyz..." its a freaking model xyz... not because I think it is... t because it is.

Period.

Case closed.

Mmmm.. kay?

:) :P


Not everyone knows every little detail about every little car (you were in that position at one point believe it or not),

Well - since people don't know why do they come out the woodwork as if they do know?? Maybe thats the point - if someone in the know says "This is how it was" - perhaps once or twice it would be good to actually accept the facts.

You punks just can't accept the facts that I do know more than you do :P


so if someone doesn't know, why not just inform them politely instead of being an asshole about it?

When they ASK politely I will TELL them politiely. But arriving with a "Haha .. you are wrong" attitude will result in the answer that was provided. :)


Anyways, enough about you, that is indeed an awe inspiring car, though it is hard to link the Yellowbird name to an AWD model, especially after watching Stefan tear up the 'Ring in the RWD variant.
Uhm - again - pure display of ignorance... because anyone who knows anything about RUF or 911's knows the Yellowbird name was affectionately attached to all CTR 1's...

Yes - the name "Yellowbird" was coined by the R&T journo's - but the nick name was used to refer to the next 20 odd CTR 1's as well.

Which again makes this and the white car so unique.. as the CTR 1 mods were applied 1990 964's in 1993 to duplicate the pre-964 Yellowbirds... even though new cars were not available to convert.

:)

[RC45]

ellios ruf? Who is that :) I think you mean Alois Ruf. :twisted:

Also if all goes well I should have another RUF car reviewed for JW viewing pleasure the end of this month, let's say something along the lines of 650 hp...

RT12? If so, let me know back channel via PM and we can maybe co-ordinate these and other RUF reviews.

I might try do an RT12 review at the same time. ;)

[nickthaskater]

Hardly a display of ignorance on the Yellowbird name, all I said is that my mind has 'affectionately' attatched that name to the RWD version, so to try and link an AWD version into that just seems odd. Never did I say it can't be called a Yellowbird or anything of the sort, I just meant it was weird thinking like that. It'd be like having the RWD Z06, then suddenly seeing an AWD Z06, it'd just seem a bit odd.

But anyways, thanks for adding in all of that information into your initial post.

[RC45]

Hardly a display of ignorance on the Yellowbird name,
Well - my reference to "ignorance" was note really made at you, but in general reference to blackenzo and others actions and attitudes.

Because quite frankly, if you (collective you - not personal you) don't know whether something that someone else says to be true is in fact so, wouldn't you (collective you - not personal you) first go research the fact before you "called it out"?

It does seem odd to call a fact out without having a factual rebuttal.

All this trouble started because few wanted to believe that a 964-based AWD CTR existed on one hand, and that RC45 of all people would "educate" them to the fact on the other.... ;) :P

[dutchmasterflex]

So awsome how you have big knobs and red buttons to tune the car from the dash. None of that fancy electronic buttons..

Do you know how far you and adjust the AWD bias to the rear?

[RC45]

We are looking to this - but suspect it is 50/50 and 70/30 - the AWD system is a RUF engineered unit so might be full of surprises.

[SFDMALEX]

Some people are just full of shit and will argue with a knife next to their heart (Russian expression) saying they know the truth RC.

Only way out of is to get em to use that blade so you can move on :lol: :wink:

[blackenzo]

ok calm down i spelt it wrong i always get mixed up

[5vz-fe]

I personally think the 964 is the ugly duckling of Porsche...but the wide fender makes a whole lot of difference. The more I look at it, the more I like it (of course the numbers does play a big role)

[666fast]

Please tell me its a 911 SC RS or a RS 3.0 road-version


It is turbocharged... and is quoted as being "917 for the road!" :wink:

It's not the actual road going 917 is it? LOL IIRC, only one was built!

Thank for the write up RC! Interesting car for sure.

[nthfinity]

It's not the actual road going 917 is it? LOL IIRC, only one was built!


917's weren't turbocharged except the Can Am cars...

this is a 100% street car.
Some might argue its 1 of 5... but the fact is that the other 4 aren't anything like this one... hence why those "5" are usually called "4" because this one is unique :) also because 99% of the people dont know about this one :)

It's older then Yellowbird, and faster then Yellowbird too

[666fast]

It's not the actual road going 917 is it? LOL IIRC, only one was built!


917's weren't turbocharged except the Can Am cars...

this is a 100% street car.
Some might argue its 1 of 5... but the fact is that the other 4 aren't anything like this one... hence why those "5" are usually called "4" because this one is unique :) also because 99% of the people dont know about this one :)

It's older then Yellowbird, and faster then Yellowbird too

Hmm, I must be thinking of something else then! LOL

Either way, I look forward to your review.

[poltz]

Hey RC, thanks for all this info and pics! I've always been interested in the Yellowbird, but could never find anything decent on it -- till today ;)

[RC45]

Well - just be sure to note that this car is a 1993 version of the 1987 car built using a 1990 C4 platform ;)

If you are not careful - people might come after you for claiming this is the original Yellowbird... rather than just one of the last 2 Yellowbirds... ;)

[5vz-fe]

Disected Original Yellow Bird

http://img63.imageshack.us/img63/8050/rufctr4vj5.th.jpg (http://img63.imageshack.us/my.php?image=rufctr4vj5.jpg)

[dutchmasterflex]

^ Wow.. That's it?

[nickthaskater]

917's weren't turbocharged except the Can Am cars...

this is a 100% street car.
Some might argue its 1 of 5... but the fact is that the other 4 aren't anything like this one... hence why those "5" are usually called "4" because this one is unique :) also because 99% of the people dont know about this one :)

It's older then Yellowbird, and faster then Yellowbird too
A road going 2.2 RSR Turbo?

[Wutputt]

:shock:
Incredible you were able to locate one of the last two CTR's and being able to do an in depth on it. Especially thanks for all the detailed interior pics. Such pics are very hard to find on the net :mrgreen:

[nthfinity]

917's weren't turbocharged except the Can Am cars...

this is a 100% street car.
Some might argue its 1 of 5... but the fact is that the other 4 aren't anything like this one... hence why those "5" are usually called "4" because this one is unique :) also because 99% of the people dont know about this one :)

It's older then Yellowbird, and faster then Yellowbird too
A road going 2.2 RSR Turbo?

in the words of its' owner "who ever said its' a porsche?" :P

[pagani]

Very nice pictures i really love ruf's
The early ruf's are the most hardcore of them all.
And the coolest thing about ruf is they are always much better than porsche's they are base on.

I have done performance calculation on the black ruf.
Pretty good performance for car of the early 90's.
Power at Flywheel (BHP) : 550
Weight without Driver (KG) : 1375
Power to Weight Ratio (BHP Per Ton) : 406.42
0 - 60 (Secs) : 2.98
0 - 100 (Secs) : 7.03
60 - 100 (Secs) : 4.05
Quarter Mile (Secs) : 11.43
Terminal Speed (MPH) : 127.52
Drag Strip Quarter Mile (Secs) : 11.03
Drag Strip Terminal Speed (MPH) : 131.96

[5vz-fe]

Oh yeah, almost forgot to ask. RC, how's the lag anyways, is it like a big ass kick all of a sudden?

[salegosse]

The entire point of this thread was to share one of the most badass cars ever to be featured on JW with your folks...

POST OF THE YEAR in this sub forum ! :lol:

[RC45]

Oh yeah, almost forgot to ask. RC, how's the lag anyways, is it like a big ass kick all of a sudden?

It just screams and pushes... hard and fast... like an angry German at Oktoberfest after you take away his Bierstein.. ;)

[JoeHahn]

Very nice pictures i really love ruf's
The early ruf's are the most hardcore of them all.
And the coolest thing about ruf is they are always much better than porsche's they are base on.

I have done performance calculation on the black ruf.
Pretty good performance for car of the early 90's.
Power at Flywheel (BHP) : 550
Weight without Driver (KG) : 1375
Power to Weight Ratio (BHP Per Ton) : 406.42
0 - 60 (Secs) : 2.98
0 - 100 (Secs) : 7.03
60 - 100 (Secs) : 4.05
Quarter Mile (Secs) : 11.43
Terminal Speed (MPH) : 127.52
Drag Strip Quarter Mile (Secs) : 11.03
Drag Strip Terminal Speed (MPH) : 131.96

The 2WD version of the Yellowbird has been clocked at under 7 seconds to 100mph, thats with less power, less gears and 2 less wheels with drive through them.


in the words of its' owner "who ever said its' a porsche?" :P

I think I might just know what it is. If it has a brilliant racing history and is 'flatter' than usual, I think I might have it :wink:

[pagani]

The figures are not the real world just calculation.
:D :lol: :wink:

[RC45]

The figures are not the real world just calculation.
:D :lol: :wink:

But once I publish my Road Test results.. the numbers will be real world.. :P

(oops.. did I just let the cat out of the bag that we might be doing a full recorded Road Test of an AWD CTR "Yellowbird"? -- I wonder if there has ever been asuch a test conducted.. :P ;))

[nthfinity]

in the words of its' owner "who ever said its' a porsche?" :P

I think I might just know what it is. If it has a brilliant racing history and is 'flatter' than usual, I think I might have it :wink:

lets just say a 996 GT2 owner was very suprised :)

[harryo2b]

Alright through my Porsche connections I have word that there is a 1995 RUF BTR/Prototech conversion currently for sale in the Boston region. 500 hp rear wheel, sunroof delete, rear seat delete... :shock:

I am actually in the works at seeing what the situation is with the car and if needed I may have to sell my current ride for a second shot at another RUF BTR!!!

[5vz-fe]

^I'll sell my girlfriend and chip in LOL

[nthfinity]

Alright through my Porsche connections I have word that there is a 1995 RUF BTR/Prototech conversion currently for sale in the Boston region. 500 hp rear wheel, sunroof delete, rear seat delete... :shock:

I am actually in the works at seeing what the situation is with the car and if needed I may have to sell my current ride for a second shot at another RUF BTR!!!

1995?

I believe the car in question is a 1986... BTR ~group B Turbo Ruf ;) hehe

[harryo2b]

No question it's a '95 RUF BTR.

And yes it's Gruppe B Turbo RUF
such as CTR is Gruppe C Turbo RUF
and RT12 is RUF Turbo 12th generation or so i was told by Herr Ruf himself:mrgreen:

[RC45]

To help clarify - here is an official-based listing of the series known as BTR that were available from RUF as either RUF VIN builds or Porsche VIN conversions. Thsi is an extract from an artcile I am preparing.

The data comes from an officially RUF sanctioned resource and is abotu as accurate as can be found.

Of course, as with all RUF cars, there are the RUF specs (as built and often tested) and then there are RUF customer-specific specs. If you arrive with the desire and an idea - and the money - RUF will prepare your car your way.

That is why if you ever see a "RUF" car, check to see if the VIN number if is a Porsche VIN (indicating a possible offical conversion) or a RUF VIN.

If ever you guys see a car, and are in doubt - send me the VIN number via PM and I will contact RUF and help verify if the car is indeed the real deal ;)



BTR 3.4 Coupe * Lightweight *
(1983 - 1989)
374bhp @ 6,000rpm
354lb ft @ 4800rpm
0-100kmh 4.6s
0-200lmh 15.5s
175mph vmax

BTR 3.4 Coupe
(1987 - 1989)
374 bhp @ 6,000rpm
354 lb ft @ 4800rpm
0-100kmh 4.8s
0-200lmh 16.7s
190mph vmax

RUF BTR 3.4 was the first car to be RUF manufacturer VIN numbered. A RUF developed 5 speed transmission was another special concession to going quicker than a factory Porsche 911. The leightweight version was for the ture nut-jobs - with the "comfort version" having sall luxuies imaginable. The being matched to the aerodynacs of the forntal area - the widebody could manage to eek out 175mph while the narrow body was able to scream all the way to 190mph.

BTR III
(1988 - 1989)
408 bhp @ 6,000rpm
354 lb ft @ 4800rpm
0-100kmh 4.6s
0-200lmh 15.5s
180mph vmax

RUF BTR III the first RUF single turbo use the Motronic engine management system - resulting in not only more power, but smoother delivery as well more flexibilty and much improved fuel economy. There was also a slant nose version of the BTR III available. There wasd also for the first time available a new RUF 6 speed transmission as an option instead of the RUF 5 speed.In "stock" RUF form the significantly dirty aerodynamics of the wide trubo bodywork kept max speed at 180mph.

BTR 3.8
(1992 - 1994)
415 bhp @ 6,000rpm
406 lb ft @ 4800rpm
0-100kmh 3.9s
0-200lmh 12.9s
198mph vmax

RUF BTR 3.8,the narrow body light weight car that helped celebrate the 30th anniversary of the 911. The interior was kept spartan to play into the lightweight theme - with leather wrapped racing seats the only luxury options provided. With the weight down and the power up and aided by the slippery narrow body, the BTR 3.8 could bahn storm to 62mph in 3.9 seconds, and did not stop pulling until it's 198mph top speed.

BTR 2 Coupe
BTR 2 Cabriolet
(1994 - 1997)
420 bhp @ 5,000rpm
428 lb ft @ 4800rpm
0-100kmh 4.1s
0-200lmh n/as
191mph vmax

RUF BTR 2 was introduced soon after the 993 body style hit the streets. New RUF 18 inch wheels alowed carrying larger beefirer brakes and matched well to the RUF 6-speed gearing - allowing for a respectable 191mph terminal velocity.

[nthfinity]

No question it's a '95 RUF BTR.

And yes it's Gruppe B Turbo RUF
such as CTR is Gruppe C Turbo RUF
and RT12 is RUF Turbo 12th generation or so i was told by Herr Ruf himself:mrgreen:

i didn't know there was any 993 based BTR's...

so you speak with Alois periodically? Next time you see him.... ask him about the special Slant nose BTR... i'm 100% sure he'll know what you are talking about ;)

[5vz-fe]

http://www.supercars.net/garages/PeP/2v2.html
http://www.ruf-web.co.jp/conv/btr.html
http://www.ruf-automobile.de/content.php?seite=seiten/modelle.php&archiv=&jahr=&details=10
http://www.ruf-automobile.de/html/993_btr_engl.html

:wink:

[RC45]

^^^ Google for the win :P ^^^ ;)

[5vz-fe]

Yep...Google 1 : nth 0 LOL

[RC45]

Yep...Google 1 : nth 0 LOL

But I have learned when it comes to RUF research, google returns more urban legend than reality ;)

Thats why I am using a new print resource as my main research tool for now - followed up by direct queries to RUF ;)

[5vz-fe]

^Unfortunately, I do not have that luxury :cry:

[RC45]

^Unfortunately, I do not have that luxury :cry:

But you have the next best thing.. me ;) :P

[nthfinity]

Yep...Google 1 : nth 0 LOL

oh, i wasn't doubting him... i simply didn't know :)

[harryo2b]

No question it's a '95 RUF BTR.

And yes it's Gruppe B Turbo RUF
such as CTR is Gruppe C Turbo RUF
and RT12 is RUF Turbo 12th generation or so i was told by Herr Ruf himself:mrgreen:

i didn't know there was any 993 based BTR's...

so you speak with Alois periodically? Next time you see him.... ask him about the special Slant nose BTR... i'm 100% sure he'll know what you are talking about ;)

No not periodically because i'm sure if i did i may be broke and there may be a 3.8 X51 motor swap in my 987S?! :shock:

Our Porsche members club has a yearly meeting at RUF called "RUF Tag" where they give us a grande tour and yes there I have spoken with Herr Ruf. He is surely the most down to Earth man I have met who has yet done so much for Porsche, what can be made of them and pushing the limits of turbo power.

As for 993 BTR's yes they do exist and actually I think it is 25 as the number of RUF VIN BTR's that were built. Only one I personally know of is in Australia or was, a basalt black met RUF conversion BTR-2 in Cali w/ 426+ hp RUF tested at 0-60 @ 3.7s and 196 mph and a white BTR-2 in Boston with 500+ hp lovely cars aren't they :lol:

[5vz-fe]

That won't change the score u know, google still wins :mrgreen:

if it makes u feel any better, u can also subsitute my name to the score.....coz I don't know either, I have to google it also :P~

[harryo2b]

By the way looking at the August '06 issue of Hemmings Motor News i came across an ad that i now recognize...the RUF Awd CTR that this thread is about is listed, my timing is just always off. :|

[5vz-fe]

Alright through my Porsche connections I have word that there is a 1995 RUF BTR/Prototech conversion currently for sale in the Boston region. 500 hp rear wheel, sunroof delete, rear seat delete... :shock:

I am actually in the works at seeing what the situation is with the car and if needed I may have to sell my current ride for a second shot at another RUF BTR!!!

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1995-PORSCHE-RUF-TURBO_W0QQitemZ300026258810QQihZ020QQcategoryZ1015 6QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Any chance I got it right?

[RC45]

The word I am getting is that there was no official "full conversion" shop outside of Germany prior to the RUF AutoCenter in Dallas.

The Porsche VIN car is probably composed of many RUF purchased parts, but until I get confirmation from RUF, going to be in my book, a Non-RUF conversion - but rather a modded Porsche with RUF parts.

The auction even says "The car was later re-tuned by Protomotive in Florida " and "supposedly the BTR conversion in this country and featured in Road and Track magazine" - which really means "we have no way of substantiating any of this..." ;)

[5vz-fe]

lol....nice translation RC :P~

Looking closer, the steering, rear wing and intercooler looks fishy

[nthfinity]

wow, what a popular topic... had this been a porsche, i bet this would still be on page 1 !

personally, i can't get enough of Rufs!

I know there was some in depth on the RT12 already.... and what about the RGT... its in GT4... is it possible there is one there too?

[RC45]

wow, what a popular topic... had this been a porsche, i bet this would still be on page 1 !

personally, i can't get enough of Rufs!

I know there was some in depth on the RT12 already.... and what about the RGT... its in GT4... is it possible there is one there too?

RGT in depth?

Been there - done that ;)

[RC45]

Alright through my Porsche connections I have word that there is a 1995 RUF BTR/Prototech conversion currently for sale in the Boston region. 500 hp rear wheel, sunroof delete, rear seat delete... :shock:

I am actually in the works at seeing what the situation is with the car and if needed I may have to sell my current ride for a second shot at another RUF BTR!!!

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1995-PORSCHE-RUF-TURBO_W0QQitemZ300026258810QQihZ020QQcategoryZ1015 6QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Any chance I got it right?

I saw this car in Houston today...

Expect an In-Depth any day now.

Oh - and anyone interested in a CTR Yellowbird vs RT12 track test??? :twisted:

[harryo2b]

This car was bought by a fellow P-car enthusiast who was going to take it to RUF-Autocentre to have it re-RUF'ed if you can say it like that :mrgreen:

There is now a Turbo R for sale with many CTR-2 parts that had a full conversion and then some while it was here in Germany from 1996-2003.

[RC45]

This car was bought by a fellow P-car enthusiast who was going to take it to RUF-Autocentre to have it re-RUF'ed if you can say it like that :mrgreen:

There is now a Turbo R for sale with many CTR-2 parts that had a full conversion and then some while it was here in Germany from 1996-2003.

Hhhhm... don't recall that part of the conversation... but will checkup today. ;)

[harryo2b]

Yeah he may not be doing it. Been awhile since I last checked the threads on the other board but it appears the big concern now is to ensure the ECU is mapped correctly to match the engine upgrade. Saw some initial pics of the ride at the person's house and initial reports of the car is it's a "silver bullet"

Get some pics already RC! :twisted:

If federalization for bringing a RoW car to the US wasn't such a pain in the ass and $$$$$ I would probably have myself a nice RUF RCT right now.

http://www.ruf-automobile.de/content.php?seite=seiten/gebrauchtwagen.php&archiv=&jahr=&details=13

Here are some pics of the Turbo R recently acquired by a member of the same board. This car started life in the hands of a DoD personnel as a factory new Porsche Carrera and since then had is personally RUF'ed by his close friend Alois Ruf. He was also the Pres. of PCA-Germany region when it was running...
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