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DMbaseball1604
12-31-2003, 05:25 PM
Ok I know its a Ford but they both have 500bhp, and they are both great performers! The GT has loads of history behind it and I think it makes for a great competitor...not to mention that it looks incredible!

X-ale
12-31-2003, 07:23 PM
^^^ I do agree... am looking forward to see lap times

SFDMALEX
12-31-2003, 07:27 PM
Gallardo.

When I buy a sportscar I dont want a truck engine in it.

jon_s
12-31-2003, 07:29 PM
Gallardo all the way!

faulkner153
12-31-2003, 09:06 PM
I have to disagree with all of you, though the Gallardo is a bitchin car, the Ford GT is currently my favorite supercar. It's such a classic race car, where the Gallardo is futuristic and Italian. But the Ford GT still gets my vote!

pimrusis
12-31-2003, 10:36 PM
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the Ford is cool, but just lacks originality....the Gallardo is futuristic.

Lacks originality? Its whole design could be considered original (for the time it is in). The Gallardo isn't original it looks like a baby Murc.

pedrohmb
12-31-2003, 11:17 PM
Ford GT!!

the Ford is cool, but just lacks originality
Lack originalitty?? Look at Gallardo interior...the console...totally Audi...

pimrusis
12-31-2003, 11:18 PM
First of all, the technology is different, its upgraded by about 50 years. Second, its bigger and more power. Third, 500hp so what if its a truck engine? The engine in the Viper and the Countach could be called truck engines to... but you don't hear anyone complain about it.

blah
01-01-2004, 12:25 AM
Ford GT, cuz when if it breaks, i can swap out F-150 Parts, if the Gallardo breaks, you are fucked.

oldsnail
01-01-2004, 12:35 AM
lambo, honestly i woudnt pay so much for a domestic ford.

pimrusis
01-01-2004, 01:18 AM
BLAH!!! Good point. You can service a Ford at a Ford dealership. Oldsnail, are you one of those foreign-car-only tools?

snacky
01-01-2004, 02:42 AM
I'd take the Ford GT. 1.) The GT looks like the GT40 Lemans winner.
(how's it possible to rip off your own design? it's not) 2.) That Ford "truck engine" has a wider (better) power band than the nonsupercharged V10 Gallardo. 3.) I'm assuming it would be easier to pick up more (american) chicks with a "down-to-earth Ford badge" than a "high falloot'n euro fancy smancy stuck up lambo badge."

possessed_beaver
01-01-2004, 03:02 AM
it's a ford or a throughbread italian/german racer..
mmm
think about it

Fleischmann
01-01-2004, 03:05 AM
I pick the Ford GT as it has a rich history and looks almost identical to the Ford GT40 :)

Ivanhoe
01-01-2004, 03:13 AM
for all those "eww american? obviously gallardo!" ppl, im usually w/ you but... even though the gt40 has a truck engine in it (its an AMERICAN car duhh) its a freakin bullet. it will embarass the gallardo on the track. and the price... whoaaa the price, its a bargain for the price. hehe but being honest the gt40 is in a totally completely different league. too bad the only car in that league is itself. the league above (cgt, enzo pagane, etc) is too much for the gt40. and the league bellow is too slow. so the gallardo's "audi-ness" and the gt40's "truck-ness" equal out (in my eyes) and the only thing left is bang for buck and performance, so the winner is GT40

levensnevel
01-01-2004, 03:29 AM
Never thought I would start 2004 this way but given the two options I prefer the Ford and not the Lamborghini :mrgreen:
Those curvy lines of the GT are so much nicer than the looks of the Gallardo

yg60m
01-01-2004, 04:52 AM
Very hard question ?! Not really the same , one is past design the other is futuristic. I think they performs similarly (with maybe a small advantage for the GT). I prefer the Gallardo interior but for the rest ???
I can't decide :(
"Hopefully" I haven't to ...

bmwfreak
01-01-2004, 05:02 AM
If you stick an engine in a truck, it becomes, and will always be labelled, a truck engine, no matter where it came from.

The Ford GT is supposed to handle better than the Gallardo, as well as have steering feel that surpasses it. This is mainly due to, of course, the Gallardo using an AWD system.

Note : All the greatest ever supercars/sportscars have been RWD. F40, F50, Macca F1, XJ220, GT40. Why? to provide the most uncorrupted steering feel and driving experience possible.

I'd take the GT.

kawa22
01-01-2004, 05:09 AM
http://a332.g.akamai.net/f/332/936/12h/www.edmunds.com/media/news/column/carmudgeon/motorsports/ford.gt40.f34.500.jpg
i think that ford have made a commercial car without the palmarace of the original gt40

http://www.jeffchan.com/cars/historics2001/ford-gt40-gulf.jpg
what do you think if ferrari or porsche reamake the 250 gto (1962/1964) or 917/935/962?

i vote for
http://www.streetracersonline.com/gallery/albums/userpics/gallardo/normal_gallarado19.jpg

Chingachgook
01-01-2004, 06:02 AM
I vote for the Gallardo. Yes, the interior is too Audi, but it's still a Lamborghini! It's beautiful, aggressive, while the Ford GT is a marketing operation. Ford needed a supercar ( and the GT isn't a proper one ) to celbrate 100 years. They knows that a brand new one wouldn't be well accepted by eveyone, so they used the GT40 shape. A car that was able to beat Ferrari would be looked with other eyes compared to a new supercar without a famous name.

I totally agree with kawa, wath do you think of a 250 GTO remake?? BLEAH!!

blah
01-01-2004, 06:32 AM
The GT isnt a proper one because its not Italian? thats just fucking stupid, you people seem to have some problems grasping the concept, the ford is better on track, on road, and everywhere else than the gallardo, even has better history. Ching, please explain to me why the GT is not a proper supercar? because it can be daily driven (F-150 engines are extremely durable and tough).

kawa22
01-01-2004, 06:37 AM
sorry but gt40 was a race car and gallardo is supersport car but for a street use.
i think that built a car after 40 years is commercial

jaybv6
01-01-2004, 06:55 AM
I have always liked the old Ford GT40 :D . It's what I always wanted as a kid. It was sleek, fast and raw. I always loved the car in the Gulf livery (pale blue and orange). When I saw that Ford had done a modern version that remained true to the original I was delighted. It looks superb.

The Gallardo on the other hand is an evolutionary car. It looks just like a minature Murcialgo and is way too refined. How can you say it is Italian when all that is Italian about it is the name. Everything else is German, design, engineering etc etc. The Gallardo lacks the rawness that the Ford GT has.


In that respect I say Ford GT, although I really do hate the majority of Ford Cars :)

Chingachgook
01-01-2004, 07:22 AM
The Gallardo, and also the Ford GT are not supercars. I call supercars things like Pagani Zonda, Carrera GT, Enzo, F50, F40, Mosler MT900 Photon, Koenigsegg CC8S. The GT is a sportcar like Gallardo,GT, Ferrari 360. I don't like so much the Gallardo ( with less money I'd buy a TVR Typhon and BYE BYE Lamborghini) but I totally disagree with the idea of a car with the shape of the immortal Ford GT40. If the car had same chassis, same engine, same handling and same performances as the Ford GTm, but had a different shape and different name, I'm not sure it had be so famous.
And how can you blame the Gallardo to look like a baby Murcielago, (slightly different in truth) when the Ford GT looks like the Frord GT40, and I mean perfectly like...

jaybv6
01-01-2004, 09:22 AM
And how can you blame the Gallardo to look like a baby Murcielago, (slightly different in truth) when the Ford GT looks like the Ford GT40, and I mean perfectly like...

There is a difference between looking like a car that was produced in the same year and producing a car that looks like a car that was produced 40 years ago.

The GT 40 has attained cult classic status and although the new GT looks like it's predecessor it is endowed with features from the present era. I commend Ford in building such a car as it shows true vision, although some might just see it as jumping on the success of the original GT40. If Ford had taken a different direction in designing this beast it could have gone horribly wrong. Just look at the GT90, it was ugly and boring and never made it to production.

What I like to see in a car is rawness and pure character. Sure the Ford GT is based on a 40 year old design but the character is still there.

Just like alot of modern cars I don't think the Gallardo has that. What is does have is Refinement, Quality and Poise, just like the majority of German manufactured vehicles. Sure it's fast but beyond that it does not appeal to me.

The Gallardo may be a Lamborghini by name but it was not conceived, designed or built by the Italians and as such is a German machine not an Italian one. I have read many a review of the Gallardo and they all say the same, it lacks the spirit of it's half breed older brother the Murcielago.

kawa22
01-01-2004, 09:50 AM
Lamborghini is italian more than you supposed.
i prefer this ford http://www.fast-autos.net/ford/indigo.jpg not gt40.
i don't know the resion about the build gt40 but 40 yers ago was race and the gt40 won much and ferrari and porsche lose somethingh! i think now is now and this car is without motivation,is a clone.the people buy this car is normal but i think this is not a supercar same this http://members.lycos.co.uk/djdoughnut/hpbimg/Ford%20GT40%20MK%20I%20gulf%20-%201968%20(frente%20alto).jpg i'd like much original gt40
The Mito ferrari is build by victory in race and 250 gto is the dimostraction,gt40 won many years ago and this car now is expensive to buy.

jaybv6
01-01-2004, 10:35 AM
gt40 won many years ago and this car now is expensive to buy.

So true. I think the original GT40 cost £9000.

mugsee
01-01-2004, 11:31 AM
I'd take the Ford GT. 1.) The GT looks like the GT40 Lemans winner.
(how's it possible to rip off your own design? it's not) 2.) That Ford "truck engine" has a wider (better) power band than the nonsupercharged V10 Gallardo. 3.) I'm assuming it would be easier to pick up more (american) chicks with a "down-to-earth Ford badge" than a "high falloot'n euro fancy smancy stuck up lambo badge."

You really reckon it'd be easier to pick up in the ford? I thought chicks would like the 'exotic-ness' and the 'WOW' factor of the lambo... :?:

BADMIHAI
01-01-2004, 12:19 PM
chicks with a "down-to-earth Ford badge" than a "high falloot'n euro fancy smancy stuck up lambo badge."



Are you crazy? lolollolollololo Chicks die for lambos.....I mean when they see Ford......

Just ask Jabba how chicks do anything for rides in lambos.

BTW: Jabba, why didn't you buy a Gallardo? Were you disappointed by Clarkson's review?

Vansquish
01-01-2004, 01:01 PM
Every review I've seen says that the Ford GT is a bit softened compared to the Ferrari 360 Modena, even though the Ford is massively faster in a straight line and around racecourses. The Gallardo looks too much like an Audi-ized Lambo. The switchgear is very Audi-like and the design is more or less a somewhat less attractive ripoff of the Murcielago. I like the way both the GT and the Gallardo look, but from what I've read and seen, the Gallardo is not a particularly wonderful drivers car, which cannot be said of the GT. The GT has an original design, not something penned by some teutonic styling house. Even though it was produced in its original form nearly 40 years ago, the car is still beautiful, faster than ever, and like nothing else on the road. If you can say that about the Gallardo, then it is probably going to be your choice. For me, the GT is the car of the year, and as far as I'm concerned, it IS a supercar. In Road and Track or Car and Driver (I can't remember which off the top of my head) in a comparison between the GT, the Porsche 996 GT3 and the 360 Stradale, the GT recorded a 0-60 time of 3.3 seconds, faster than the Pagani Zonda C12S, faster than all bar the Mclaren F1 and the Ferrari Enzo.

pimrusis
01-01-2004, 01:20 PM
Actually, I would rather have a Gallardo to... to be honest. I do not like the GT's interior. I was just being argumentative :D

SFDMALEX
01-01-2004, 01:27 PM
Vansquish if those 0-60 figures are from an American magazine then dont beleave them. I saw some magazine run the Enzo at 3.2, and a GT3 at 5. I think they need to move on to GPS based systems.

NOw back to the topic. I like the GT40. It's a great looking car, but it just lacks originality. It's like a remake of an old movie. It's pretier, it's better build, but it still aint as good.

I wonder what would people say if Ferrari decided to go the same path and build a P4 for the road in 2004...I'm not saying it would be bad....but what the hell is that?

Honestly I would take the Gallardo just because it costs more, so I can sell it and buy something else. I dont really like any of the two cars in the topic. The GT40 just doesnt do it for me, and the Gallardo just isnt a Lambo.

NOw if this topic said would you take the Original GT40 or something else, this would be a different story.


P.S Does anyone have a dynograph of the GT40? I'm really curious about it's power delivery with that F-150 motor.

pimrusis
01-01-2004, 01:30 PM
I wonder how many pounds of boost that F-150 motor is running, would anyone happen to know that?

SFDMALEX
01-01-2004, 01:49 PM
I wonder how many pounds of boost that F-150 motor is running, would anyone happen to know that?

Well it redlines pretty low....so the supercharger spins pretty slow.....

blah
01-01-2004, 01:56 PM
I wonder how many pounds of boost that F-150 motor is running, would anyone happen to know that?


you can boost it pretty high. people are getting their lightnings in the 10s i believe.

pimrusis
01-01-2004, 01:58 PM
I also read that the supercharger whine in the GT isn't all that noticable.

What would they run normally?

blah
01-01-2004, 02:03 PM
I think it runs either 12 psi, or 10, it should have to run to high, i mean the damn thing is 5.4 Litres. I will find out.

bmwfreak
01-01-2004, 03:46 PM
All this debate over the relative merits of the GT versus the Gallardo. Hmm.

A Belgian designed the Gallardo. AUdi made the interior. All Sant^Agata basically did was nail it together, and come up with that V10.

The GT has a rich racing heritage, and an identity that is unmistakable. The GT40 was an eye opener, nearly 40 years ago. That Ford could do something remarkable and extraordinary.

The GT, is a celebration of that 'can-do' spirit, something the Gallardo lacks. Ford built it to celebrate. Are you going to knock Vauxhall for building the VX Lightning to celebrate its 100th birthday? Or knock Honda for building the S2000 as a celebration of it's 50th?

snacky
01-01-2004, 04:59 PM
You really reckon it'd be easier to pick up in the ford? I thought chicks would like the 'exotic-ness' and the 'WOW' factor of the lambo... :?:

I'm talking hickville American women. America-where the Ford F150 outsells the Honda Accord 3-1. America- where country music outsells everything else and the president "talks plain texan." So %-wise, it would easier to pickup american chix with the GT than the Lambo. However, I somehow think the pornstars would like the Lambo more, you think? Maybe we need another poll, "Girls which one would you rather be picked up in, the Ford or the Lambo?"

snacky
01-01-2004, 05:40 PM
what do you think if ferrari or porsche reamake the 250 gto (1962/1964) or 917/935/962?

I was looking at the 2nd hand market for 962s. It's faster than any supercar out there. The 956/962s won LeMans more times than the GT40 and cost less than the new Porsche CGT. Legalize the 962s I SAY !!!

oldsnail
01-01-2004, 06:00 PM
lambo has a great reputaion of exotics and a rich history to prove it..

i mean, i coudnt think of another exotic that has a ford badge , that went in production, other than the gt and the old one 40 years ago. eventhough they had many proto's.

kawa22
01-01-2004, 06:09 PM
if i've this money i buy this
http://www.tuning-auto.com/pics/salon032.jpg
not gt40 not gallardo but porsche gt2 yellow!!!
http://www.amicionline.com/images/forum/icons/icon_angel.gif

stradale
01-01-2004, 08:41 PM
I think most people here are not giving both the Gallardo and the GT enough respect.

The Ford GT is a great looking car and I don't mind that the car looks like the GT40. I don't think they could have designed a better looking super-Ford. If reviews are anything to go by, the GT is without doubt a great car to drive. What is also an achievement of Ford is the very short time in which they've developed such a car. The GT40 was very unstable at the front at high speeds. The Ford engineers have cured that without altering the car's looks too much. I think it's beautiful and I would love to have one.

The Gallardo is a true Lamborghini, albeit with added Audi-durability. The car was developed by Lamborghini while benefiting from Audi's experience in some fields (such as aluminium). So what if it has Audi climate control? It's good stuff. If Lamborghini designed its own cc parts with the same quality as the Audi A8's I'd prefer that, but I think they must have had a good reason for doing it like this. The design of the car is mainly the work of Fabrizio Giugiaro while Luc Donckerwolcke did the finishing touches. Let's face it, it's not just Italians anymore who design Italian cars. If the Gallardo is said to be no Lamborghini because it wasn't entirely designed by an Italian, then why hasn't anyone said the Enzo is no Ferrari? What's important is whether the design fits the spirit of the marque. I love the Gallardo's looks and to me it looks like a proper Lamborghini. All those complaints about the Gallardo being 'AWD' I can't understand either. Especially when they're from the people that have no problem with the same VT system on a Diablo. Besides, an SV version is on its way. Lamborghini wanted the regular Gallardo to be a daily driver as well and I can understand that. No company can survive without making a profit. The fans of hardcore Lambos fans will be served later. Reading evo's COTY will leave no doubt the Gallardo is an amazing car nevertheless.

I'd personally choose the Gallardo if I had to. If I could I'd like the GT as well though.

TT
01-01-2004, 08:46 PM
Very good points by stradale :)

To me evo is a true bible, and the fact they gave a very nice review to the GT means a lot to me even if at first I was not so sure about the car... sure, it is not on top of my list, but it's a desirable car :) (and I have a 1:18 model of it LOL).
The Gallardo, yes, it is seen as an Audi hybrid and not a pure raging bull.. of course I can see why, but times are changing and everybody has to move on.. I prefer to see Lamborghini still alive with some help from Audi that dead...
And as pointed out by stradale, this is just the first born, and already loved by evo.. so the next versions will only improbe probably..

If I'd have to choose between the two, it would be the Gallardo anyway :)

blah
01-01-2004, 09:06 PM
Pornstars like Vipers, but to pick up an american chick just get yourself a Navigator on Dubs, or a Esclade EXT.

snacky
01-01-2004, 09:22 PM
Pornstars like Vipers, but to pick up an american chick just get yourself a Navigator on Dubs, or a Esclade EXT.

Those arent american chix, the chix that like the gators or slades are ghetto !!! :lol:

corvette97
01-02-2004, 12:32 AM
lambo, honestly i woudnt pay so much for a domestic ford. fuck you really, a gt is not domestic, even a ferrari could be more domestic that a gt, and for the guy who sayd that it has a truck engine on it,....fuck u big time, that fine engine has the power to kill a ferrari or a lambo, su fuck u

Ivanhoe
01-02-2004, 12:39 AM
corvette... it is comments like that ^ that start flame wars, so calm down. he prolly only said it cuz it was a truck engine.

blah
01-02-2004, 12:42 AM
The GT is a domestic Corvette, it was designed, and built by fords SVT team, and it does have a truck engine in it, it has the 5.4 litre V-8 from the F-150 Lightning.

Ivanhoe
01-02-2004, 12:45 AM
to all the ppl who said the gt40 isnt a supercar, i said earlier that it is in a class of its own. which means :roll: that there is nothing really that competes fairly w/ it. pagani zonda is waay to much, and the gallardo and cs is too slow. so really the gt40 IS a supercar... kinda...sorta...

kawa22
01-02-2004, 03:38 AM
Model GT40 Concept Production Not Available
Engine & Transmission Body / Chassis
Position Mid Longitudinal Drive Wheels Not Available
Configuration All Aluminum MOD V8 Curb Weight Not Available
Valvetrain DOHC, 4 Valves per Cyl Length 4613 mm / 181.6 in
Displacement 5400 cc / 329.5 cu in Width 1950 mm / 76.8 in
Power 372.9 kw / 500.1 bhp @ 5250 rpm Height 1106 mm / 43.5 in
Torque 677.91 nm / 500.0 ft lbs @ 3250 rpm Wheelbase 2710 mm / 106.7 in
Bore 90.2 mm / 3.55 in Front Track 1636 mm / 64.4 in
Stroke 105.8 mm / 4.17 in Rear Track 1650 mm / 65.0 in
Redline Not Available Steering Not Available
HP / Liter 92.61 bhp per litre Body / Frame Unstressed Composite Body over Aluminum Space Frame
HP / Curb Weight Front Brakes Alcon Ceramic Cross-Drilled Discs w/6-Pot Calipers
Gear Type RBT 6-speed Manual Front Brake Size 380 mm / 15.0 in
1st Gear Ratio 2.86:1 Rear Brakes Alcon Ceramic Cross-Drilled Discs w/6-Pot Calipers
2nd Gear Ratio 2.06:1 Rear Brake Size 380 mm / 15.0 in
3rd Gear Ratio 1.47:1 Front Wheels F 45.7 x 20.3 cm / 18.0 x 8.0 in
4th Gear Ratio 1.18:1 Rear Wheels R 48.3 x 25.4 cm / 19.0 x 10.0 in
5th Gear Ratio 0.958:1 Front Tires 245/45R18
6th Gear Ratio 0.740:1 Rear Tires 285/45R19
7th Gear Ratio Not Available Front Suspension Unequal Length Control Arms w/Rod Push-Bell Crank System, Spring
Final Drive Ratio 4.22:1 Rear Suspension Unequal Length Control Arms w/Rod Push-Bell Crank System, Spring
Performance

1967 Origin Detroit, Michigan, USA
Make Ford Base Price Not Available
Model GT40 Mark IV Production Not Available
Engine & Transmission Body / Chassis
Position Not Available Drive Wheels Mid Engine / RWD
Configuration V8 Curb Weight 1000 kg / 2205 lbs
Valvetrain OHV Length 4343 mm / 171.0 in
Displacement 6997 cc / 427.0 cu in Width 1791 mm / 70.5 in
Power 372.9 kw / 500.1 bhp @ 5000 rpm Height 978 mm / 38.5 in
Torque 637.2 nm / 470.0 ft lbs @ 5000 rpm Wheelbase 2413 mm / 95.0 in
Bore 107.5 mm / 4.23 in Front Track 1397 mm / 55.0 in
Stroke 96.1 mm / 3.78 in Rear Track 1397 mm / 55.0 in
Redline Not Available Steering Rack & Pinion
HP / Liter 71.47 bhp per litre Body / Frame Fibreglass
HP / Curb Weight Front Brakes Vented Discs
Gear Type T44 4-Speed Manual Front Brake Size 292 mm / 11.5 in
1st Gear Ratio 2.22:1 Rear Brakes Vented Discs
2nd Gear Ratio 1.43:1 Rear Brake Size 292 mm / 11.5 in
3rd Gear Ratio 1.19:1 Front Wheels F 38.1 x 20.3 cm / 15.0 x 8.0 in
4th Gear Ratio 1.00:1 Rear Wheels R 38.1 x 30.5 cm / 15.0 x 12.0 in
5th Gear Ratio Not Available Front Tires Not Available
6th Gear Ratio Not Available Rear Tires Not Available
7th Gear Ratio Not Available Front Suspension Not Available
Final Drive Ratio 3.09:1 Rear Suspension Not Available
Performance

2003 Origin Not Available
Make Lamborghini Base Price Not Available
Model Gallardo Production Not Available
Engine & Transmission Body / Chassis
Position Mid Longitudinal Drive Wheels 4WD w/Viscous Traction System
Configuration 90 Degree, Aluminum V10. Curb Weight 1470 kg / 3241 lbs
Valvetrain DOHC, 4 Valves per Cyl w/Variable Intake System & Continuously Varibale Valve Timing Length 4300 mm / 169.3 in
Displacement 4961 cc / 302.7 cu in Width 1900 mm / 74.8 in
Power 372.9 kw / 500 bhp @ 7800 rpm Height 1165 mm / 45.9 in
Torque 510 nm / 376.2 ft lbs @ 4500 rpm Wheelbase 2560 mm / 100.8 in
Bore 82.5 mm / 3.25 in Front Track 1622 mm / 63.9 in
Stroke 92.8 mm / 3.65 in Rear Track 1592 mm / 62.7 in
Redline Not Available Steering Rack & Pinion w/Power Assist
HP / Liter 100.79 bhp per litre Body / Frame Aluminum & Thermoplastic over Aluminum Spaceframe
HP / Curb Weight 340.14 bhp per weight Front Brakes Vented Discs w/Brembro 8-Piston Calipers, ABS
Gear Type 6-Speed Manual w/Optional Robotized E-Gear Front Brake Size 365 mm / 14.4 in
1st Gear Ratio 2.563:1 Rear Brakes Vented Discs w/Brembro 8-Piston Calipers, ABS
2nd Gear Ratio 1.850:1 Rear Brake Size 335 mm / 13.2 in
3rd Gear Ratio 1.423:1 Front Wheels F 48.3 x 21.6 cm / 19 x 8.5 in
4th Gear Ratio 1.138:1 Rear Wheels R 48.3 x 27.9 cm / 19 x 11 in
5th Gear Ratio 0.939:1 Front Tires Pirelli Pzero 235/35 ZR 19
6th Gear Ratio Not Available Rear Tires Pirelli Pzero 295/30 ZR 19
7th Gear Ratio Not Available Front Suspension Double Wishbones w/Anti-Roll Bar
Final Drive Ratio 3.077:1 Rear Suspension Double Wishbones w/Anti-Roll Bar
Performance
Top Speed 309 kph / 192.0 mph 0 - 60 mph 4.1 seconds
0 - ¼ mile 12.2 seconds 0 - 100 mph 9.0 seconds
Lateral Acceleration Not Available EPA City/Hwy 14 mpg

Hawk
01-02-2004, 04:19 AM
Ford GT nothing sounds like a big v8. And you could get it repaired easily.

Ivanhoe
01-03-2004, 01:59 AM
LOL dont worry brembo im w/ you on this one. the gt40 is simply the better car. however retaining some of my porsche-ness (way of thinking) its not fair to compare the 2. price for starters.

Vansquish
01-03-2004, 02:08 AM
quoting SFDMALEX: "Vansquish if those 0-60 figures are from an American magazine then dont beleave them."

I gave the example of those times because they sounded best, and as far as I know, no European magazine has been allowed to do a fully documented GPS-based test of the GT as of yet. Thus, to my knowledge, they are the most representative figures. I do know that Autocar has timed the GT at 3.8 seconds 0-60, and track conditions play a large part in the kind of performance that one can extract on any given day. I know not to trust American magazines on the whole because they give highly subjective, ratings of cars, and do not take particular interest in European and/or Asian design and engineering...i.e. there is a huge bias. I trust most of my knowledge on Autocar, Car, Top Gear, and Evo Magazines...so I believe that performance-wise the GT still stands out in comparisons therein. It remains my choice with the 360 Stradale a close second, and the Gallardo is worse than the 911 GT3 for my tastes.

DeMoN
01-03-2004, 03:08 AM
little late for this, but I rather have the GT40. Man that car looks good. The interior is so nice, just hope they dont switch it. Now between GT40 and Murcielago, hmm that is a tougher choice for me. The gallardo has an ugly back and it looks like a smashed murcielago. In picture, the murcielago looks much larger. Designewise, currently, there is no car that I like best than the lambo murcielago.

DMbaseball1604
01-03-2004, 07:21 PM
yeah I love the murcielago too, I would take the Ford GT because of the heritage and the fact that they took on Ferrari an institution like that requires some ingenious enginering and to me thats what the Ford GT represents...that is what it does represent..and the numbers and the performance on the GT are supposed to be incredible..

kiato4
01-06-2004, 10:17 PM
I can't believe this is even a question... the GT40 had problems during development (and still has problems) with it's Cd which is supposedly over .4 and at high speeds it had a tendency to lift off the ground... it may have history but the Gallardo kicks it's rear by so much that it's not even a contest... especially considering the Gallardo is naturally aspirated, has AWD, and the sickest styling and paint ever

stradale
01-07-2004, 07:00 AM
The GT40 had the tendency to lift its front wheels off the ground, not the GT. That's exactly what's so good about the work the Ford engineers have done. They made only minor alterations to the lines of the car and still sorted the aerodynamics.

blah
01-07-2004, 02:32 PM
Hey Kiato4, the GT-40 hit 207 mph down at lemans with it raced, they told the whole crowd that at the Auto Show.

Fleischmann
01-07-2004, 03:38 PM
207 mph is faster than the Murcielago's top speed...so why compare it to a Gallardo. Besides the Gallardo's ass is a discrace to the predecesor Lambos. It's sick !!

blah
01-07-2004, 04:42 PM
that was the GT-40s time baby, and that car and less horses, and worse aerodynamics. Ford believes that the GT could get a speed of over 190 mph but my guess is it would clock out at 210 or higher. :twisted:

dylan99
01-07-2004, 07:37 PM
The Ford GT is the winner

dylan99
01-07-2004, 07:38 PM
It is just beautiful

cavallino
01-07-2004, 09:10 PM
The Gallardo all the way. It is the most exotic car in this price range.

sickx
01-07-2004, 09:23 PM
Odds are the 2 won't even appeal to the same people, other than those who are just out to collect anything exotic. They're both supremely fast and capable, neither is going to get anything less than front valet spot at a hotel or restaurant!

corvette97
01-07-2004, 09:34 PM
GT, the gallardo is a baby murc. (i rather own a used murc. than a smaller thing) the fact is that the gt, is much more exclusive than the gallardo, but anyway when it comes to exotics and supercars i chose tha simpler, and the cheaper one, but this time the gt got me

corvette97
01-07-2004, 09:37 PM
The Gallardo all the way. It is the most exotic car in this price range.

lol, the gt is more exotic and rare, but thats your choice, kool, i dont care, give me a f355 if you want

Ivanhoe
01-07-2004, 10:01 PM
lol yea the gt40 is the best and only car in its price range.

zevolv
01-07-2004, 10:16 PM
lol yea the gt40 is the best and only car in its price range.

It isn't called the GT40 ford couldnt get the rights to the name from the original firm that designed the car so its called the Ford GT only, By the way corvette97 American cars are not exotic even if it's bought overseas no matter what the car is.

dylan99
01-07-2004, 10:42 PM
there priced at about the same price - gt a bit more expensive - but the GT is far more exclusive and better.

astonmartinandy
01-08-2004, 04:44 PM
Sorry I'm going to have to go with the Gallardo aswell i'm afraid. I just wouldnt want to spend that sort of money on a Ford! However given the choice I would choose an original GT40 any day!!

dylan99
01-09-2004, 07:14 PM
Sorry I'm going to have to go with the Gallardo aswell i'm afraid. I just wouldnt want to spend that sort of money on a Ford! However given the choice I would choose an original GT40 any day!!

You are contradicting yourself.

offroadr35
01-10-2004, 01:39 PM
Most definitely the GT if for nothing else than the RWD

COFair
01-12-2004, 04:54 AM
I vote for the Gallardo.

mhn3773
01-12-2004, 05:16 AM
ill agree with the first 2 points..but the 3rd one is kind of hazy...either way ud pick up a mass of women =)

the gt is "copied" from the gt40..but its more of a revival they have never said it wassent a gt40 twin..they would have named it gt40 had they not somehow lost that right..im still mystified on that one


are parts for lambos easier/cheaper to get outside of the US? or do they cost as much everywhere? that would play a huge factor in any car choice sadly :( damn up-keep lol :D

HeilSvenska
01-12-2004, 09:19 PM
Hmm... I would also take the Ford GT rather than the Gallardo. Lamborghini has lost its way. Gallardo looks too rational and boring compared to the lambos of the past like the Miura, Countach, and yes...the almighty Diablo. Besides, the Gallardo was designed by a Belgian and not an Italian and its spaceframe is built in Germany, so it lacks authentic Italian spirito. Ford has its heritage and racing history to back up the GT

ben
01-12-2004, 09:23 PM
the lambo is a great car but then it is more expensive. the ford and the lambo perform the about the same level but the ford is Limited in numbers and so i pick the ford.