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gobs3z
08-03-2006, 11:37 PM
From Automobile magazine
http://www.automobilemag.com/images_nd/lcol_toc_0608.jpg
The Volkswagen Group is considering a small, mid-engined Bugatti that would be prived dramatically lower than today's $1.3 million Veyron supercar. The two-seat sports car, planned as both a coupe and a roadster, is envisioned as a Lotus Elise competitor and would be paired with Volkswagen and Audi versions.

To keep the marque going when the limited-edition Veyron expires, the brand needs a new car before 2010. Another budget-busting technical tour de force is out of the question, and Porsche's stake in the VW Group means a new Bugatti can't tread on Porsche's turf. A mid-engined sports car powered by a turbocharged four-cylinder is no threat to Porsche, puts Bugatti firmly on the map, and offers opportunities for VW and Audi as well. But is something so far afield drom the Veyron really brand compatible?

Insiders point to Bugatti's past. The best-known model may have been the mighty and ostentatious Royale, but the cars that actually sustained the brand were light and nimble sports cars that won races yet were also street legal - such icons as the Type 35 and the Type 51.

To avoid creating a gene-manipulated VW roadster adorned with Bugatti badges, the must-have ingredients include:
- An aluminum spaceframe structure
- Unique exterior desin using a modern shape but recognizable Bugatti elements, such as a horseshoe grille, multispoke wheels, and two-tone color schemes
- An interior featuring minimal instrumentation, painted metal, hammered aluminum, and leather, but no wood and as little plastic as possible
- Corporate electronics complemented by unusual surfaces, switchgear, gauges, and lights
- No carryover components in the chassis - everything that determines ride, handling, and roadholding must be tuned to specification
- A seven-speed, twin-clutch automaic transmission as the only avaliable gearbox
- A four-cylinder, 2.0-liter turbo FSI engine (output is set for 280 hp, with a 320 hp version to follow) with its own power and torque curves and Bugatti-specific intake and exhaust systems
- A target weight of less than 2500 lbs
- Selective distribution through the group's premium brand dealer network

Explains one of the men involved: "[It's] exclusive in appearance and content, the performance is best in class, and the price is relatively low for such an exclusive label. The trick is to keep supply well below demand. That means no more than 5000 or 6000 cars per year, maybe fewer. The price must be below $60,000 - that's a lot for a four-cylinder engine but a bargain for a Bugatti."

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Johns
08-03-2006, 11:41 PM
could be a cool car but for $60K +/- and only 280-320hp by the time it comes out..it will be a joke!

gobs3z
08-03-2006, 11:58 PM
320hp and 2500lbs. curb weight won't be a slow car. Either way it's the rarity of the car that will sell it and the fact that it's a Bugatti. I for sure would love to have one.

5vz-fe
08-04-2006, 01:23 AM
I guess they are hoping the Veyron will introduce the brand to the public, then they start selling cheap rip of Audis?

LotusGT1
08-04-2006, 01:56 AM
Stan.

Pics are old.

dutchmasterflex
08-04-2006, 09:56 AM
$60k Bugatti.. Audi would love that ;p

dannyroz
08-04-2006, 12:54 PM
Looks like a Audi TT with a Buggati body kit.

60k for an Elise beater? There are going to be way too many rich people with a Bugatti making it uncool...such a shame

saadie
08-04-2006, 01:45 PM
yay .... veyron is pregnant :D

PATo355
08-04-2006, 02:14 PM
LOL , they will kill the name ... Bugatti MUST be the most expensive car in the world !!! Make a sedan and sell it for 999.999 Dollars !!!

crazidude
08-04-2006, 03:03 PM
So other words, I'll be paying a shit load of money for a Golf GTI with a fancy badge, mid engined and more power?

gobs3z
08-04-2006, 03:16 PM
Stan.

Pics are old.

I wouldn't say it's a Stan. The only other thread was this http://www.motorworld.net/forum/showthread.php?t=40609&highlight=baby+bugatti
And there were no pics or info on the car, so i would call this an update. :P

LotusGT1
08-04-2006, 04:32 PM
Nope

http://www.motorworld.net/forum/showthread.php?t=38834&highlight=bugatti

gobs3z
08-04-2006, 06:34 PM
Nope

http://www.motorworld.net/forum/showthread.php?t=38834&highlight=bugatti

Damn them for having it shown 4 months ago, shit happens.

acmarttin
08-05-2006, 04:12 AM
A 60k Bugatti says to me that VW/Audi is trying to track down the remaining screams coming from the mouths of people who are all talk.

DeMoN
08-06-2006, 05:06 AM
The car cant look like that can it? Too much veyron on it.

RC45
08-07-2006, 04:54 PM
ROTFLMAO... an Audi... any Audi with a weight of 2500lbs... yeah -- sure..... and those are monkeeees shooting outa my butt... :P

Mattk
08-08-2006, 01:55 AM
- A seven-speed, twin-clutch automaic transmission as the only avaliable gearbox
- A four-cylinder, 2.0-liter turbo FSI engine (output is set for 280 hp, with a 320 hp version to follow) with its own power and torque curves and Bugatti-specific intake and exhaust systems

Seven gears seems a bit excessive for what is a Golf GTI's engine with a bit more oomph. And why make a scale version of the Veyron. This isn't worth the bother.

CroWn
08-11-2006, 07:43 AM
Look's good :good:

Shinigami
08-11-2006, 08:02 AM
I think it looks absolutely beautiful (at the artists impressions do).

Mattk
08-11-2006, 08:12 AM
So? The price isn't justified by what the car is: a glorified Golf GTi engine in a scale model of the Veyron.

Global Warming
08-11-2006, 05:47 PM
"A target weight of less than 2500 lbs" I will believe that when I see it! :roll:

Mattk
08-12-2006, 03:40 AM
The test version will probably be 2500lbs. Then, they'll load up on all the leather seats, electronics etc.

ae86_16v
03-11-2007, 03:36 PM
Well. . . it looks like this project just got nailed shut:

http://www.autoblog.com/2007/03/11/bugatti-chief-resigns/

Thomas Bscher wanted to see the Bugatti range expand. He had taken charge of the über-premium brand during the tenure of Dr. Bernd Pischetsrieder, the former head of the Volkswagen Group. But when Pischetsrieder was replaced by Audi chief Dr. Martin Winterkorn, plans changed.

Evidently failing to realize his goals of broadening the Bugatti range beyond the Veyron, Bscher opted to resign from his post. Taking his place will be a fellow brand manager from VW's de facto premium auto group, Franz-Josef Paefgen, who will reportedly take on the management of Bugatti in addition to Bentley, the Volkswagen subsidiary over which he currently presides. Whether this will be an interim role or a more permanent arrangement remains to be seen, but with the same man controlling both brands, Bugatti isn't prone to pose a threat to Bentley's stature at the top of the corporate luxury hierarchy.

This management shift pretty much puts the final nail in the coffin of any future Bugatti model, whatever shape it might have taken. Porsche AG, a major shareholder in the VW Group that had voiced its opposition to any expansion of the Bugatti brand, just might get its wish.

[Source: Der Spiegel (tr.) via German Car Scene]

Erez
03-11-2007, 04:59 PM
:good: I like it!

silentm
03-12-2007, 12:20 PM
hmm bad news for bugatti... i'm kinda curious though what will come of this.

martin100
03-14-2007, 01:48 PM
Bad news indeed :( So the Veyron will remain the only modern Bugatti?

HeilSvenska
03-16-2007, 12:58 AM
Well. . . it looks like this project just got nailed shut:

http://www.autoblog.com/2007/03/11/bugatti-chief-resigns/

Thomas Bscher wanted to see the Bugatti range expand. He had taken charge of the über-premium brand during the tenure of Dr. Bernd Pischetsrieder, the former head of the Volkswagen Group. But when Pischetsrieder was replaced by Audi chief Dr. Martin Winterkorn, plans changed.

Evidently failing to realize his goals of broadening the Bugatti range beyond the Veyron, Bscher opted to resign from his post. Taking his place will be a fellow brand manager from VW's de facto premium auto group, Franz-Josef Paefgen, who will reportedly take on the management of Bugatti in addition to Bentley, the Volkswagen subsidiary over which he currently presides. Whether this will be an interim role or a more permanent arrangement remains to be seen, but with the same man controlling both brands, Bugatti isn't prone to pose a threat to Bentley's stature at the top of the corporate luxury hierarchy.

This management shift pretty much puts the final nail in the coffin of any future Bugatti model, whatever shape it might have taken. Porsche AG, a major shareholder in the VW Group that had voiced its opposition to any expansion of the Bugatti brand, just might get its wish.

[Source: Der Spiegel (tr.) via German Car Scene]

You had to dig up a 6 month old thread to post this?! :x :P