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LotusGT1
07-26-2006, 10:34 AM
I saw this posted today on another forum. Can this jeopardize JW's efforts, and have any of you heard about it?

From LLN:

The British Broadcasting Corporation has demanded video hosting websites such as YouTube remove all copyrighted materials, including episodes of the wildly popular Top Gear uploaded by users. Auto enthusiasts around the world have long been forced to download the television show from file-sharing or video hosting services, because it is not available in countries where BBC is not offered.

Top Gear has been available on YouTube since the site's founding in February 2005. While there are mounting concerns over content piracy on YouTube, most Top Gear fans assumed BBC would allow its content to remain on the service, because the broadcasting company is publicly funded. While other content providers risk losing sales or advertising dollars from YouTube piracy, BBC is advertisement- and subscription-free.

While some clips of Top Gear remain on the YouTube website, one prominent user's chronological collection episodes has been removed.

A notice on the site reads: "This video has been removed at the request of copyright owner the BBC because its content was used without permission."

While it's not clear how aggressive the BBC will be in its efforts to remove the show from Internet video services, it appears the days of readily accessible Top Gear are over for North American fans.

RC45
07-26-2006, 10:55 AM
Well - we knew something like this was bound to happen sooner or later once people started hosting the videos on those public services.

acmarttin
07-27-2006, 01:23 AM
I really hope this isn't true, because the net is the only place I get to see it

nickthaskater
07-27-2006, 03:20 AM
Haha oh well, I never watched them on youtube anyways, always got them through final-gear and mininova.

]s some of you may of heard, the BBC is cracking down on YouTube and the likes and having all Top Gear clips removed from their sites.

Now before you start worrying about Final-Gear.com, let me just say that we won’t be going anywhere because simply put, this site is entirely legal. We host nothing, not even .torrent files. We simply list the episodes and link to torrents hosted on Mininova and there is nothing illegal about linking to another website.

So surf in peace knowing that your favorite Top Gear fansite will still be here for quite some time to come!

had to put hyphens in between 'final' and 'gear' for some reason... :?

Jabba
07-27-2006, 04:44 AM
Its a banned site here as its run by a bunch of twats.

LotusGT1
07-27-2006, 04:47 AM
Its a banned site here as its run by a bunch of twats.

LOL, at least that's clear :lol: :wink:

nickthaskater
07-27-2006, 05:10 AM
Its a banned site here as its run by a bunch of twats.
A bunch of twats maybe, but they give me Top Gear and Fifth Gear on time on a weekly basis so I couldn't care less what the people who run it are like :P

Jabba
07-27-2006, 05:20 AM
Which is why I presume you post here rather than over there ?

I wonder if there are any people that get Top and 5th Gear from here and yet post over there ?

nickthaskater
07-27-2006, 05:25 AM
I post here because I'm a car enthusiast and post on a number of car-related message boards. I get my episodes there because they're free, and they're entire episode rips, and I've been doing so for over a year now. I don't post there however, as for some reason my computer wouldn't load the page I needed to login when I was trying (haven't bothered for some time), but I do read the forums there for the episode songs and such.

Jabba
07-27-2006, 05:34 AM
I don't post there however, as for some reason my computer wouldn't load the page I needed to login when I was trying

Upto their usual high standards then it would seem.

nickthaskater
07-27-2006, 05:35 AM
Meh, I don't really care, I'm only there for the shows anyways. I can still read the forums at least, and that's all I really wanted to do in the first place.

nickthaskater
07-28-2006, 03:08 AM
:P I leave them active for as long as I can

nickthaskater
07-28-2006, 03:42 AM
They have less of a reason to get shut down than this site, they're just linking, Jabba's World hosts them (as far as I know).

Jabba
07-28-2006, 05:21 AM
Please show me where we host full episodes of Top Gear on JW.

nickthaskater
07-28-2006, 05:37 AM
As I said, as far as I know, which means I was unsure. You have them listed on the front of the page, and you're making people pay for them, so I figured you were hosting them yourself on the site.

Edit:

I just noticed you said full episodes, well I really don't think it matters whether it's clips (which basically make up nearly the whole show anyways), or a full uninterrupted episode, either way it's copyright infringement just the same as YouTube and the torrents.

Jabba
07-28-2006, 05:59 AM
So we need to change your post to "as far as I know - which is nothing".

There are no full episodes on the front page and the videos that are on there, no one seems to care about, or at least we haven't been asked to remove them since 2003 anyway.

www.racing-flix.com has been hosting the same videos since 2001 and has never been asked to remove them either.

nickthaskater
07-28-2006, 06:06 AM
As I said in my post, clips are still copyright infringement just as much as a full episode. Google Video removed various Top Gear clips (not full episodes) a while back due to copyrights. There's a lot for the BBC to go after if they really want, maybe they just haven't gotten to you or they're going after the full episodes first, either way you say you've been asked already in the past, so my point is proven.

Jabba
07-28-2006, 06:09 AM
either way you say you've been asked already in the past, so my point is proven.

When did I say that ?

nickthaskater
07-28-2006, 06:11 AM
either way you say you've been asked already in the past, so my point is proven.

When did I say that ?
There are no full episodes on the front page and the videos that are on there, no one seems to care about, or at least we haven't been asked to remove them since 2003 anyway.

Jabba
07-28-2006, 06:15 AM
What part of H A V E N T dont you understand ? Its the O P P O S I T E of have.

nickthaskater
07-28-2006, 06:19 AM
It was written in a way that was easy to misinterpret, 'haven't been asked since' sounds like you were asked in the past. Either way, other sites have had to remove clips, and obviously copyright infringement even if it is just a clip, to try and deny that is just stupid.

As for me not knowing anything, the links to download the clips on your site say "http://www.jabbasworld.net/dload.php?action=file&file_id=1607", so it seemed as though they were being hosted on your site.

I don't really get why the hell you're getting so pissy in the first place, just because you have some beef with the people at final gear is no reason to get on my case.

Jabba
07-28-2006, 06:47 AM
It was written in a way that was easy to misinterpret,

Yes I suppose so if you are retarded.

Either way, other sites have had to remove clips, and obviously copyright infringement even if it is just a clip, to try and deny that is just stupid.

When have I ever denied that, I stated that we have never been asked to remove any videos on the front page unlike other sites that have been asked to remove full episodes. My avatar is also copyright infringement do you think Intel really gives a shit about that ? Perhaps you should get your own one checked out while you are up on your "high horse" preaching to us about copyright infringement.

As for me not knowing anything, the links to download the clips on your site say "http://www.jabbasworld.net/dload.php?action=file&file_id=1607", so it seemed as though they were being hosted on your site.

Yes thats not a full episode which is what I said, and you admitted that you read incorrectly once again.

I don't really get why the hell you're getting so pissy in the first place, just because you have some beef with the people at final gear is no reason to get on my case.

Because I have a problem with retards that don't read posts correctly and start assuming things that they know very little or nothing about at all.