AMD buys ATI for $5.5 Billion USD!

[Pimp Racer]

Wow thats alot of money.
Now this is a huge impact on the gaming industry!

Most people say that AMD is the best processsor to use when gaming and ATI are the best graphics cards to use when gaming so this is just fliping sweet!

http://money.cnn.com/2006/07/21/technology/amd_atitech.reut/index.htm?section=money_latest

[SilviaEvo]

wow thats pretty cool. AMD and ATI together good combo

[5vz-fe]

Wow...............this might span out interesting product down the line.

[RC45]

Except ATI is not the best graphics supplier.. ;)

AMD need a foot in the door to get more server based sales... ATI is the dominant server graphics chip

[TeflonTron]

Except ATI is not the best graphics supplier.. ;)

AMD need a foot in the door to get more server based sales... ATI is the dominant server graphics chip

Best in what sense? Their products have been faster and more innovative than nVidia's for more than a couple of generations.

[RC45]

Except ATI is not the best graphics supplier.. ;)

AMD need a foot in the door to get more server based sales... ATI is the dominant server graphics chip

Best in what sense? Their products have been faster and more innovative than nVidia's for more than a couple of generations.

Sorry but that is not born out in actual real life performance. Just cause Tom's Hardware says ATI is better doesn't make it so.

ATI may sell more crap overseas, but point for point price for price and spec for spec nVidia makes better graphics cards, better drivers and over all better end user experience - period.

;)

[nickthaskater]

Except ATI is not the best graphics supplier.. ;)

AMD need a foot in the door to get more server based sales... ATI is the dominant server graphics chip

Best in what sense? Their products have been faster and more innovative than nVidia's for more than a couple of generations.
Nvidia's latest has trumped anything ATI currently has out I believe. ATI were on top for a while, but the natural order of things has been restored for now :P

[TeflonTron]

Except ATI is not the best graphics supplier.. ;)

AMD need a foot in the door to get more server based sales... ATI is the dominant server graphics chip

Best in what sense? Their products have been faster and more innovative than nVidia's for more than a couple of generations.

Sorry but that is not born out in actual real life performance. Just cause Tom's Hardware says ATI is better doesn't make it so.

ATI may sell more crap overseas, but point for point price for price and spec for spec nVidia makes better graphics cards, better drivers and over all better end user experience - period.

;)

That's Bullcrap. ATI has, since the 9700Pro, made cards that are faster, generation-for-generation, than nVidia, and anyone who isn't a fanboy will tell you the same. ATI used to have MAJOR quality issues and HUGE problems with their Drivers, but that has, for the most part, been ironed out, and as long as you find a Driver that works and don't try and eek every last drop of performance from the card by switching Drivers to the latest set all of the time, the cards will do everything that you need them to, and more. One area that ATI have dropped the ball on though is their Crossfire technology, as nVidia have done so much better with their Sli that it's almost like night and day. ATI's choice to require a bridge card was, in retrospect, a very poor choice.

Oh, Tom's Hardware is very, very well-known for being exceptionally biased: hence why I never read it, or take it's opinions into consideration.

[nickthaskater]

GeForce 7950 GX2 (dual GPU) is the best performing consumer card (in terms of actual gaming benchmarks) I can find, beating even ATI's 1900 XT handily, especially at high-resolution. There is the 1900 XTX, ATI's fastest card, but I've seen comparisons of it versus a 7900 GT SLI setup, and the SLI was faster, and since the 7950 GX2 is faster than a 7900 GT SLI (which I've also seen compared), the 7950 GX2 seems to be king of the heap for now.

This card also brings quad-GPU-SLI into play, even though the performance of such a setup will more than likely be capped by other components of your system.

[SFDMALEX]

Except ATI is not the best graphics supplier.. ;)

AMD need a foot in the door to get more server based sales... ATI is the dominant server graphics chip

Best in what sense? Their products have been faster and more innovative than nVidia's for more than a couple of generations.

Sorry but that is not born out in actual real life performance. Just cause Tom's Hardware says ATI is better doesn't make it so.

ATI may sell more crap overseas, but point for point price for price and spec for spec nVidia makes better graphics cards, better drivers and over all better end user experience - period.

;)

I will disagree.

I have been an nvidia fan a long long time.

But from work experiance and personal ATI is better, faster product.

What nvidia has is more toys, more features, they are ahead in that sense.

But as far as perfomance and image quality goes ATI wins.

Be it x850 Vs 6800

or a cheapo 9600 Vs 5800 or whatever.

Even when I had my ti4600 I noticed that the ATIs we had at work where significantly better IQ.

Same with current line.


And same story with perfomance. Unless a game is nvidia optimized like Doom 3 ATI is always faster.

Just like my 850 is quite a bit faster then all the people with 6800s on racesimcentral, from GTR,GTL to Rfactor.


Nvidia does have better drivers, and they update them quite often, if one thing I do miss about nvidia thats drivers.


Otherwise Ill be sticking to ATI.

Stable, solid, great IQ fast product.

[SFDMALEX]

Except ATI is not the best graphics supplier.. ;)

AMD need a foot in the door to get more server based sales... ATI is the dominant server graphics chip

Best in what sense? Their products have been faster and more innovative than nVidia's for more than a couple of generations.
Nvidia's latest has trumped anything ATI currently has out I believe. ATI were on top for a while, but the natural order of things has been restored for now :P

Bullshit man. Sure CURRENT top of the line NVIDIA is ahead.

Does that make it a better product? Fuck no.

When things settle a bit and even out then we can look at it again.

I personaly, when comparing brand on who is better etc think that you can not look at anything newer then 6 month. Cause it just doesnt give the right picture.

Since the 9700 like already mentioned ATI was making the better product.

Only lately NVIDIA caught up.

Once they hold that spot for SOME TIME then Ill say its better.


And fanboys suck donkey nuts.


I personaly dont give a shit. I buy whatever is the best at the moment.


NVIDIA has made great mid range products. And thats what I used to stick to. I got a 4200TI and OCed it past 4600TI spec. I had a 6600GT running way past its spec, but I only had the card a few months.

But even when i had those cards, the equivilent ATIs had better IQ and better FPS.

[nickthaskater]

[Bullshit man. Sure CURRENT top of the line NVIDIA is ahead.
Considering all I said was 'currently' that's obviously all I was talking about, the X1900 XTX vs. 7950 GX2. Until ATI comes out with a dual-GPU card that uses their top of the line GPU, Nvidia will be on top, especially with 'quad' SLI.

PS. Chill the fuck out, it's just a videocard.

[RC45]

Well - I have tried to switch at each generation step and ATI has screwed me on drivers and compatability each time - so I keep going back to nVidia.

Whats the point of screaming numbers if you can't upgrade to their hardware or get proper driver support?

:)

Every ATI card I had had PC side has been taken back the first week due to overheating, driver issues of incompatibility.

All the servers run ATI so thats a no-brainer, but personal experience has proven to me ATI is as shit as always, and when you drop $500 or $600 on a video card, the least you can expect is for it to work ou tthe box. :P

[Erez]

yeah there were rumors for ever amd would do that..
and anyway today intel makes the best cpus and nvidia the best gpus :P
but i think this is a very good thing!

[Jabba]

Most people say that AMD is the best processsor to use when gaming

They wont be saying that for much longer as Intel Conroe rapes anything and everything that AMD has to offer.

[nickthaskater]

Most people say that AMD is the best processsor to use when gaming

They wont be saying that for much longer as Intel Conroe rapes anything and everything that AMD has to offer.
And then AMD responds and the circle of life continues.

[exhausted mules]

i think rc hit it on the nail there with amd needing to buy ati to get their foot in the door for other markets.

the server and integrated is what i think amd might be after.

[Jabba]

Most people say that AMD is the best processsor to use when gaming

They wont be saying that for much longer as Intel Conroe rapes anything and everything that AMD has to offer.
And then AMD responds and the circle of life continues.

From everything that I have read, they wont be responding this year with anything that comes close, or 2007 for that matter.

[Pimp Racer]

Except ATI is not the best graphics supplier.. ;)

AMD need a foot in the door to get more server based sales... ATI is the dominant server graphics chip

I really dont know much about that since I am not a gamer at all only a few demos such as GTR2 and LFS. But anyways I figured it was the best since a few of my gamer buds put them in their rig.



Most people say that AMD is the best processsor to use when gaming

They wont be saying that for much longer as Intel Conroe rapes anything and everything that AMD has to offer.

:lol: Thats true I heard some crazy shit about Conroe on Ananad Tech!

[dutchmasterflex]

:( I hope AMD doesnt fuck up what ATI has done in the past couple years..

I also hope AMD's stock sky rockets because they owe me $100 as of now!

[DeMoN]

I agree with RC45, GeForce cards are better than ATI. ATI and their crap drivers fall behind always. Not to mention, games optimized for nVidia and SLI vs ATI and their Crossfire. For gaming, nVidia is the stuff. Now if AMD is thinking on making ATI get advantages out of AMD products, I might aswell go to Intel cuz I dont plan on leaving nVidia. I like nVidia too much.

[black_magician]

this should answer some peoples questions

http://enthusiast.hardocp.com/article.html?art=MTEyMiwxLCxoZW50aHVzaWFzdA==

[rave426]

Remember the graphics industry is juggling act. Just a few years ago, ATI ran away with the game with the Radeon 9700, and no matter what you say its a fact that Nvidia took a while to even come close. Right now Nvidia is in the lead, but I would not spit out that they are the all out graphics leader.

For the ones that dont know, the XBOX 360 is powered by an ATI chip. For microsoft to calaborate with ATI you know something must be going good.

Anyway, I think Nvidia is eventually going to come out on top with this, in regards to hardcore gamers (unless the merger can produce some kind of imbedded technology that gives it an advantage over simple bus connectivity technology). Like I said the market is a juggle. If ATI is behind, and the systems only optimized for ATI cards, then the two companies are going to suffer. On the other hand, Intel and Nvidia are going to be cleaning house.

As for right now, the merger may bring extreme graphics to the mid range buyer, by the result of cheaper, more optimized AMD/ATI systems.

Anyway we will see........ My verdict Nvidia "1" - ATI ".026" :o

[TopGearNL]

Lets hope this is good news :!:

[evoWalo]

AMD was the best processor. Stress on the word "was" seeming Intel just came out Core 2 Duo & Core 2 Extreme. These are screamers based on the reviews you can find on the Web.

Video card performance pretty much switches from ATI to Nvidia every release. I'm worried that with the buy out ATI may one day just be AMD-only. So you're forced to do Intel, Nvidia or some 2nd rate video card maker.

The good thing I see from the merger is that one day you could find yourself buying a CPU with an embeded video co-processor similar to what was done with the 486 and the math co-processor making computers even cheaper.
Wow thats alot of money.
Now this is a huge impact on the gaming industry!

Most people say that AMD is the best processsor to use when gaming and ATI are the best graphics cards to use when gaming so this is just fliping sweet!

http://money.cnn.com/2006/07/21/technology/amd_atitech.reut/index.htm?section=money_latest

[nickthaskater]

For the ones that dont know, the XBOX 360 is powered by an ATI chip. For microsoft to calaborate with ATI you know something must be going good.
And the first Xbox used Nvidia and GameCube used ATI, and look how those turned out? It's all about lowest bidder when you're talking about consoles, it's definitely not an accurate representation of who's better.

By the way, PS3 is using Nvidia this time around (co-developed with Sony), and PS3 games are kicking the shit out of Xbox360 in terms of visuals, and the games aren't even done yet.

[evoWalo]

There is so many categories of what makes the best video card that you cant really pin down which company makes the better product. Some benchmarks Nvidia's lousy at while others ATI. Then again benchmarks not everything and product experience also counts. Driver quality over time could also be a factor on how well written and timely they are.

ATI is also being used by Nintendo not because it can kick out framerates like their is no tomorrow but it meets Nintendo's technical requirements. The Wii's supposed to be cheapest among the 3.

PS3 is vaporware until it actually ships and and all the stuff seen by the public so far are pre-rendered. THe Xbox360's graphic's pretty stunning as it is and is an actual product.

[nickthaskater]

A lot of the stuff shown on the PS3 has been done in real-time, and it's been reported that PS3s are already being manufactured (which would make sense considering it's set to release in a few months).