Microsoft demos Vista & Office 07 on a Macbook Pro

[evoWalo]

I guess they needed reliable hardware. ;)

http://www.uneasysilence.com/archive/2006/06/6883/

[Sir_GT]

Where's Global Hemisphere...

C'mon, I wanna see you two e-spar again... :slap:

[evoWalo]

RC makes better arguements. ;)

[dutchmasterflex]

^ :lol: very true.

Reliable hardware, HA! It's the SAME shit.

Maybe if Apple started buying AMD chips I'd start lookin to buy one, but even if they did have AMD chips their prices would probably be the same just so they can make more profits.

[evoWalo]

amd makes lousy mobile chips.

[DeMoN]

Windows sell OS not PC's so by showing it working on a Mac, they attract more public which is better for them.

[nickthaskater]

Windows sell OS not PC's so by showing it working on a Mac, they attract more public which is better for them.
Word up.

[SFDMALEX]

yea lol, so what?

Why does the mac poofta yuppi crowd associate anything MS with PC?

So they are displaying vista on a mac, I guess its the correct thing to do, because its a direct gui rip of the osx or whatever.

[nickthaskater]

'Mac poofta yuppi crowd' :roll:

[DeMoN]

Now that I think of it, MAC will also get a profit from that. Oh boy, more MAC for the world.

[SFDMALEX]

'Mac poofta yuppi crowd' :roll:

dont be offended, its ok to be that way.

[RC45]

'Mac poofta yuppi crowd' :roll:

dont be offended, its ok to be that way.

^^ werd.. :P

hehehe

BTW, I am doing a lot of image and video editing (using all adobe ex-mac software) on my PC's and I can tell you straight up that the same apps are easier and more intuitive on the PC compared to the spastic one-button poofta mac mouse and system.. ;)

[nickthaskater]

'Mac poofta yuppi crowd' :roll:

dont be offended, its ok to be that way.
Far from offended, it's just a pathetic attitude is all, hence the rolling eyes.

[RC45]

'Mac poofta yuppi crowd' :roll:

dont be offended, its ok to be that way.
Far from offended, it's just a pathetic attitude is all, hence the rolling eyes.

WHy is it pathetic? Because it doesn't agree with yours?

[nickthaskater]

No, it's pathetic because he's a grown ass man stereotyping people based on a brand of computer.

[Sir_GT]

'Mac poofta yuppi crowd' :roll:

dont be offended, its ok to be that way.

^^ werd.. :P

hehehe

BTW, I am doing a lot of image and video editing (using all adobe ex-mac software) on my PC's and I can tell you straight up that the same apps are easier and more intuitive on the PC compared to the spastic one-button poofta mac mouse and system.. ;)

Admittedly, that single mouse button can get annoying. That's why I've got a 4-button 3rd party one ready for when I switch :D

[evoWalo]

No, it's pathetic because he's a grown ass man stereotyping people based on a brand of computer.here we go again. this'll be a fun watch. :)

[evoWalo]

mighty mouse isnt a single button mouse. ;)

[nickthaskater]

No, it's pathetic because he's a grown ass man stereotyping people based on a brand of computer.here we go again. this'll be a fun watch. :)
There won't be anything to watch, I've clarified my point, that's that.

[RC45]

'Mac poofta yuppi crowd' :roll:

dont be offended, its ok to be that way.

^^ werd.. :P

hehehe

BTW, I am doing a lot of image and video editing (using all adobe ex-mac software) on my PC's and I can tell you straight up that the same apps are easier and more intuitive on the PC compared to the spastic one-button poofta mac mouse and system.. ;)

Admittedly, that single mouse button can get annoying. That's why I've got a 4-button 3rd party one ready for when I switch :D

But the problem is that none of the mac-based software has an ability to us the other buttons,

Which, again, is why I have chosen to use all the video and image editing software I do on a WIndows PC (and have done so sine at least 1992... ) and NOT on a Mac.

There has been NOTHING I couldn't do on a MAc that I could not do on a PC cheaper, quicker and simpler. ;)

Mac's are for posing pooftas ... ;)

[SFDMALEX]

No, it's pathetic because he's a grown ass man stereotyping people based on a brand of computer.

And....? :roll:

Tell me any other reason beside being a yuppie, a hair dresser to buy a mac?


Obviously you arent up on your technology so you just get its cause it looks pooftish like.

[nickthaskater]

Some people prefer the Mac OS to that of Windows/Linux, and Macs do run some programs better. Less worry about viruses and such is also a bonus to people who don't want to have half of their lives engrossed with making sure they didn't just pick up some new worm or something.

It's like virtually any other product in the world, people have preferences, and given a choice, they'll take what they want.

And on a side note, I don't see how they look 'pooftish like', they're stylish and very appealing aesthetically to a lot of people (yes even people who aren't yuppies and hairdressers).

[nthfinity]

yes even people who aren't yuppies and hairdressers).

like who?


pros in the business?

nope....

there are better, more intuitive, and more optioned progs. out there on the PC.

if you buy a computer for asthetics, you arent buying it for what its built for. = poofta ;)

[nickthaskater]

I listed various other reasons aside from the aesthetics, I merely said that they were nice looking on top of those reasons.

And Macs can run the same programs PCs can, so there goes that argument.

[SFDMALEX]

Mate you do know you can build a PC to look like anything you want right?


I agree people have preferences, when I joke around I joke around man. I know why people sometimes prefer to use macs. i've been actively making money in the computer business since I was 12 years old. And wrote my first program when I was in grade 1.

But majority of the people who get macs get it as a fashion accessory, because it looks cool, because its different. Not because they need to use some program that work with is better off on a mac.

I know guys who play music (which I do to, and I have all the studio software running on my PC) and they want a mac because there is some program called "fruitloops" which is like an easy to use sampler and its available on macs only. And its basically an amateur, non serious mini audio studio.

Now I run Cubase SX3 and Sonar on my rig with no stability problems. And this is professional studio software.

Another mate of my'n is shopping for a new rig and he wants a mac and when I ask him why "I dunno man, it just looks cool, I like it".

Back in the day you needed a mac because adobe stuff was not avaible for PC. Now it as. As a mater of fact, I got a DVD with all adobe software on it. Like 20 programs.

A well set up, XP desktop can run flawlessly for a long time. Set up your firewall, and a good one, have a nice antivirus running in the background, not some norton shit, and download your windows updates.

professionally I dont see a reason to use a mac. My friend works in a design studio, and they are all slowly making their way to being a PC only studio.

At work we made some rigs for some TV channel, "Home and Garden Television" or something, for one show in particular. And those where PC machines.

Once a well setup PC will be as good and better then any equivalent mac at a much better price.


If you get a mac cause you just like it, get it fine. I just dont like when you got the yuppie poofta crowd who know fuck all about computer technology try to argue to me that their mac is superior in one way or another.

[nickthaskater]

There are plenty of people who have PCs that only have them to look cool. Case windows, neons, and all of the other aesthetic modifications. Then you have the people with way more power than they could ever hope to use (hell most of them just play CounterStrike it seems), just so they can post impressive specs on their forum signature or wherever. There's just as many 'pooftas' in the PC crowd as the Mac crowd, get over it.

[SFDMALEX]

Besides there is basicly no professional engineering software for macs.

My dad is an electronics engineer and there is not one mac you will at his work. And they run programs that cost 20 000$ a license.

Not just because they arent availible for macs. But because even back in the day, you could wire a device to a serial port on a PC using a store bought book, and write a simple program in just about any language to control or program it.

Take the illegal satelite dish business. You program cards using your serial port.

Shit like this you just cant do on a mac. or not as easily as it is on a pc.

[nthfinity]

I once tried to make use of one of my old macs

i was installing linux.... and it failed right then and there with an unhappy mac guy face.

i found it funny, and fustrating.

damn you MAC!

"what is the best way to accellerate a mac?"

"9.8 m/s/s"
8)

[ae86_16v]

if you buy a computer for asthetics, you arent buying it for what its built for. = poofta ;)

Couldn't the same be said about cars? To only uses as transportation from Point A to B?

Or any other tool? Electronics?

[nickthaskater]

if you buy a computer for asthetics, you arent buying it for what its built for. = poofta ;)

Couldn't the same be said about cars? To only uses as transportation from Point A to B?

Or any other tool? Electronics?
Yep, but then he has nothing to bitch about so it's better to ignore that fact.

[nthfinity]

if you buy a computer for asthetics, you arent buying it for what its built for. = poofta ;)

Couldn't the same be said about cars? To only uses as transportation from Point A to B?

Or any other tool? Electronics?
Yep, but then he has nothing to bitch about so it's better to ignore that fact.

think about it this way.

you are buying a Alfa because of the way it looks, but you buy a Porsche for the way it drives.

Alfa is to mac as Porsche is to PC.

so, i have just as little/much to bitch about as you :)

[nickthaskater]

There are plenty of people who buy Porsches for the way they look. Typically, people don't go and buy a car that they don't find appealing aesthetically.

[No.1]

There are plenty of people who buy Porsches for the way they look. Typically, people don't go and buy a car that they don't find appealing aesthetically.

Apart from that bloke in nths sig with the Veyron :P :wink:

This arguement is :bad:


But interesting... so keep it going :wink:

[Sir_GT]

Alfa is to mac as Porsche is to PC.


That's so not true...

Show me a PC purpose built for an OS that can manage memory efficiently, while still not losing any ease-of-use, and I'll show you my checkbook.


Besides there is basicly no professional engineering software for macs.
My dad is an electronics engineer and there is not one mac you will at his work. And they run programs that cost 20 000$ a license.
Not just because they arent availible for macs. But because even back in the day, you could wire a device to a serial port on a PC using a store bought book, and write a simple program in just about any language to control or program it.
Take the illegal satelite dish business. You program cards using your serial port.
Shit like this you just cant do on a mac. or not as easily as it is on a pc.


Your statement merely says that you're choosing a PC for this very specific reason. You need something to use for hacking hardware, and because software isn't available for another OS. The other bits that your PC does are basically just "bonus extras".

Isn't that the same for web designers/video editors/SFX/CG guys that prefer working on Macs? Because we cant find a decent PC OS that can manage memory properly for our applications, we need to buy hardware for a very specific reason, everything else we get with the Mac are just "bonus extras".

Now what about those serious gamers types...

Sorry. I just dont think it really is necessary to label a group of people based on their hardware preference. I am for one, definitely not a "poofta" , but I really just can't manage working on a PC anymore.

...and really, sometimes it just doesn't matter how well specced your PC is. Mac's OS can allocate memory far better than Windows since it "sleeps" apps running in the BG, as opposed to Windows, which just piles it one on top of the other. A decent anti-virus alone will eat up a large portion of your memory, throw in a few large graphic programs such as Illustrator CS2, Photoshop, Flash, and Dreamweaver all running at once, and a Windows based PC just crawls.

Only option is to use Linux. But c'mon, the inconvenience of use eats up so much valuable work time that it's just not worth it in the long run.

But the problem is that none of the mac-based software has an ability to us the other buttons,

Which, again, is why I have chosen to use all the video and image editing software I do on a WIndows PC (and have done so sine at least 1992... ) and NOT on a Mac.

There has been NOTHING I couldn't do on a MAc that I could not do on a PC cheaper, quicker and simpler. Wink

Mac's are for posing pooftas ... :Wink:

mighty mouse isnt a single button mouse. :Wink:

Ah yes. I forgot about the mighty mouse. :) I need 4 buttons though, so either way, PC or Mac, I still need to buy a special mouse for my work. :)

[evoOCHO]

if POWERRRRRRRR was just so important about cars then why arent everyone using a riced out pocket rocket with a fart pipe that could fit a basketball? They're ccheaper without the pretty bits that ppl go gaga over.

Time was Macs were considered a toy cause of the GUI. But when PCs had GUIs everyone started keeping quiet. :)

Ppl put down the mouse as unimportant but now people depend on it. Over half a decade ago Macs could do the contextual right click. Thing is though you'd need to get a 3rd-party usb mouse for that to happen until recently.

Macs are more like the Mercedes-Benz S Class. It introduces all the whiz bang technologies that the rest of the car industry will get in 5-10 years time. It took Microsoft over half a decade to make Vista comparable to OS X. A few years after Vista becomes the norm people will wonder how they could've used XP. :D

Before the iMac all PCs were beige boxes. Sure there were black boxes but these werent the norm. But now though you get PCs all around that features whatever color you want whatever shape you want.

Apple was the first company to ditch the 3.5" floppy. It took Dell about half a decade after to make it an option. Apple was the first to ditch legacy port support. Same story as before Dell ,etc started ditching em just recently.

Apple made the 56k modem optional. Wonder when Dell stop bundling that fossilware.

With all the positives out of the way here are where Macs sucks big time.

I do concede that there are a lot of stupid Mac users. Yes, you read it right there are a lot of know-nothing Mac users that gives credence to what everyone says here. The sad part is they celebrate the fact they're idiots. They like to buy Macs cause of the pretty screeen and the pretty case. They buy it cause some airhead heiress has one and brags about it on her newspaper column. Like most of your readers know wtf a 17" Powerbook is or even care. Those who care are morons. They could care less if the thing's UNIX-based, virus free, stable as a rock and not a security nightmare. They just want the a pretty thign to complement their farking iPod and their other accessories.

A friend of mine wanted to go Mac but no AutoCAD. I wanted to go Mac for the POS but no one has local POS software/support for the Mac even if an iMac is comparable in price to a POS sans the cashbox, printer & customer display. Then again no COM or PARALLEL ports means I'll have a hell of a time looking for USB POS peripherals.

Businesses are cost-effective entitites and Macs are too feature-rich & expensive for your average business need. Not to mention finding someone to maintain a Mac network is much mroe of a headache than looking for someone capable of Linux. Finding enough software alternatives is like counting your fingers. That's that and nothing more.

Macs arent for everyone. People who says it is are dillusional and have been drinking too much Kool-Aid served at Uncle Steve Job's Church of Mac.

[LotusGT1]

Aw well,, Macs are popular in the DTP industry for some specific reasons (no, not posing ;)) and the Macs we had at home years back were excellent machines. But today a PC will be more usefull in 99% of usage needs. So besides for some specific strenghts the Macs have I don't see how the average user would pick one over a cheaper PC. I have to admit though that Macs do look better....

[nickthaskater]

If you have the money, who cares? That's like criticizing someone who buys a Veyron instead of an Enzo.

[LotusGT1]

I would critizise whoever buys an Veyron over an Enzo :)

However, we talk about appliances. You're not buying a more expensive vacuum cleaner because it rolls on dubs right ? ;)

[Sir_GT]

I would critizise whoever buys an Veyron over an Enzo :)

However, we talk about appliances. You're not buying a more expensive vacuum cleaner because it rolls on dubs right ? ;)

Would you buy a Dyson over a Hoover though?

They both do pretty much the same thing, but the Dyson looks better, and has that new "ball" base to make it easier to move around.

Still, the Hoover is far cheaper, and will still suck up dirt like it should do.

Dyson = Mac, Hoover = PC.

Personally, I would go Dyson. Not for the Looks, but because of the ball. Same reason I would rather go Mac. Because the OS and the hardware work beautifully together, not because it looks beautiful.

[LotusGT1]

I don't see how OS X works so much better than XP.

[Jabba]

I would critizise whoever buys an Veyron over an Enzo :)

However, we talk about appliances. You're not buying a more expensive vacuum cleaner because it rolls on dubs right ? ;)

Would you buy a Dyson over a Hoover though?

They both do pretty much the same thing, but the Dyson looks better, and has that new "ball" base to make it easier to move around.

Still, the Hoover is far cheaper, and will still suck up dirt like it should do.

Dyson = Mac, Hoover = PC.

Personally, I would go Dyson. Not for the Looks, but because of the ball. Same reason I would rather go Mac. Because the OS and the hardware work beautifully together, not because it looks beautiful.

Naa...Dysons SUCK but my VAX SUCKS better :P

[RC45]

Personally, I would go Dyson. Not for the Looks, but because of the ball. Same reason I would rather go Mac. Because the OS and the hardware work beautifully together, not because it looks beautiful.

What is this obsession with "works beautifully together"?

Have you ever bothered to compare back to back PC vs Mac using actual DTP and Imaging and Video editing software?

Using the same applications (as I have been doing for over a decade now) on the PC instead of the MAc has yielded no better or worse results.

In other words, using the entire Adobe suite on a cheaper but equally powerful PC has not hampered in any way my ability to produce anything.

The equivalent MAc just costs more - thats all.. dos nothing any better. Is no better at memory management, is no better at "not crashing"... in fact, most of the time the output and product spools faster from the PC than the Mac version.

But that aside, I am still waiting after 14 years for someone to show me an example of Adobe Photoshop, Premiere, Fractal painter, Adobe Illustrator, Xerox Ventura (before Coral bought them), Framemaker, Pagemaker or InDesign running better on a Mac than PC.

To date NO ONE has been able to - it is simply because the "style" of the Mac appealed to their poofta selves... ;)

Period.

:P

So - here goes out the challenge... demonstrate to me how and why it is better to run any of these "graphics, desktop publishing or video titles" on a Mac vs an equivalently powerful PC?

Lets hear it an see it.

Gauntlet thrown down.

:) ;)

[evoWalo]

For the consumer-end, iLife. :) I have yet to see a near competent suite that can handle audio, video, dvd, photos and soon the web in a tightly integrated package. you dont need to be trained and learning curve isnt that high to deliver something passable. It comes on every Mac bought for the past few years. Costs $79 everytime it gets updated. If you like how iTunes work then iLife is the extension of it on other media.

Then again if convenience & ease of use doesnt matter then there are a lot of choices on the PC but not very good ones.

[RC45]

For the consumer-end, iLife. :) I have yet to see a near competent suite that can handle audio, video, dvd, photos and soon the web in a tightly integrated package. you dont need to be trained and learning curve isnt that high to deliver something passable. It comes on every Mac bought for the past few years. Costs $79 everytime it gets updated. If you like how iTunes work then iLife is the extension of it on other media.

Then again if convenience & ease of use doesnt matter then there are a lot of choices on the PC but not very good ones.

UHm that makes no sense... you just said "consumer end".

All the while people have been arguing "Mac is for Pro Graphics, DTP and video".

So which is it?

Consumer or pro?

So youpay $5000 for builtin software? Yeah - thats clever, ellen... you get a bong with that upgarde? ;)

http://www.digibarn.com/collections/screenshots/Screenshots%20Funstuff/ellen_feiss2.jpg

And why don't you post nekkid pics of yourself.. ;) :P

[nthfinity]

I would critizise whoever buys an Veyron over an Enzo :)

However, we talk about appliances. You're not buying a more expensive vacuum cleaner because it rolls on dubs right ? ;)

what if both were together owned by the same bloke ? lets throw in a CGT for good measure!

well, mabey next year...

[evoWalo]

You did ask whats the diff between the Mac & PC. Never specified if it's pro or consumer. :)

You could have a Mac as cheaply as $599. Apple doesnt sell $5000 machines. :) Top end's $2999.

I know I have gender issues at the moment but I'm glad I dont have orientation issues. ;) You perv! :lol:

UHm that makes no sense... you just said "consumer end".

All the while people have been arguing "Mac is for Pro Graphics, DTP and video".

So which is it?

Consumer or pro?

So youpay $5000 for builtin software? Yeah - thats clever, ellen... you get a bong with that upgarde? ;)

http://www.digibarn.com/collections/screenshots/Screenshots%20Funstuff/ellen_feiss2.jpg

And why don't you post nekkid pics of yourself.. ;) :P

[Sir_GT]

I would critizise whoever buys an Veyron over an Enzo :)

However, we talk about appliances. You're not buying a more expensive vacuum cleaner because it rolls on dubs right ? ;)

Would you buy a Dyson over a Hoover though?

They both do pretty much the same thing, but the Dyson looks better, and has that new "ball" base to make it easier to move around.

Still, the Hoover is far cheaper, and will still suck up dirt like it should do.

Dyson = Mac, Hoover = PC.

Personally, I would go Dyson. Not for the Looks, but because of the ball. Same reason I would rather go Mac. Because the OS and the hardware work beautifully together, not because it looks beautiful.

Naa...Dysons SUCK but my VAX SUCKS better :P

Hey. Vax uses the tech that Dyson introduced. But without the rollerball base.

Wouldn't that mean:

Hoover = PC
Dyson = Mac
Vax = Linux

:?:

This is getting silly...

RC45: I would love to take up that challenge, unfortunately, I really don't have the time to do it (nor the hardware actually), but as soon I am able to, I'll be more than happy to find out.

Not to prove anyone wrong. Just to let the damn argument rest. :)

[SFDMALEX]

There are plenty of people who have PCs that only have them to look cool. Case windows, neons, and all of the other aesthetic modifications. Then you have the people with way more power than they could ever hope to use (hell most of them just play CounterStrike it seems), just so they can post impressive specs on their forum signature or wherever. There's just as many 'pooftas' in the PC crowd as the Mac crowd, get over it.


Sure I and I cant stand them.

Am I trying to say there is no pooftas in the PC community? No.

I am not trying to prove anything.

Personaly couldnt care less.

Let 80% of the PC crowd be pooftas. Do I care? I dont give a fuck.


Its just the mac poofta crowd that gets so offended.

[SFDMALEX]

And about the memory managment.

I was making a site on a mac once. It was flash based, and fuck was it a pain in the ass to multitask. I had 3 programs running, photoshop, dreamweaver and flash pro.

I had crashes all the time, all memory related because it had a hard time allocating memory each program.

And sometimes when I needed to run a fourth program it would just tell me "cant open not enough memory" or something along those lines.

Sorry but that just doesnt cut it. Any PC even win95 will run as much programs as you open, it will smoke and cough and barely manage not to crash but it will do what I tell it to.

And when I need to open something else to edit an image then import to flash then dreamweaver, and I must go back and close a program or two, resave all my projects so I can open another program and use it for a 1 min job then fuck it.

No it wasnt a top of the line mac.

But sorry, if I need a 4 grand top of the line mac to do some not so very complicated website work then why the hell would I want a mac?

What I ended up doing was ditching all that and moving to a win2000 PC of some mediocre spec and getting more work done more quickly.

[evoWalo]

sounds like you're using a mac more than half a decade old. :)

[RC45]

sounds like you're using a mac more than half a decade old. :)

ACtually I have seen macs in the last 2 years behave the same way.

They are nothing special - period.

If they were, there would be many millions more of them sold.

Performance talks, bullshit walks.

[ae86_16v]

I don't see how OS X works so much better than XP.

I don't see how a M3 is so much better than a Civic. Both gets to from point A to point B.

[LotusGT1]

I would critizise whoever buys an Veyron over an Enzo :)

However, we talk about appliances. You're not buying a more expensive vacuum cleaner because it rolls on dubs right ? ;)

what if both were together owned by the same bloke ? lets throw in a CGT for good measure!

well, mabey next year...

That's different. But if the guy could afford 1 supercar, I sure as hell wouldn't buy a Veyron.

[SFDMALEX]

sounds like you're using a mac more than half a decade old. :)

The oldest mac i used was of 2001 spec.

[ae86_16v]

sounds like you're using a mac more than half a decade old. :)

The oldest mac i used was of 2001 spec.

I think that was when I started getting in with the Titanium PowerBooks and such.

[nthfinity]

sounds like you're using a mac more than half a decade old. :)

The oldest mac i used was of 2001 spec.

I think that was when I started getting in with the Titanium PowerBooks and such.

and that is when i was severely turned off of macintoch

[evoWalo]

i'm not surprised that you've seen macs that behave that way seeming all macs produced since the beginning have a reputation of working way longer than expected. Why else would macs made in the 70s/80s be able to properly process the year 2000?

Money talks, so people buy PCs cause they have more choices for cheap.

ACtually I have seen macs in the last 2 years behave the same way.

They are nothing special - period.

If they were, there would be many millions more of them sold.

Performance talks, bullshit walks.
sounds like you're using a mac more than half a decade old. :)

The oldest mac i used was of 2001 spec.

I think that was when I started getting in with the Titanium PowerBooks and such.
OS 9 was prevailent way back then. That OS stunk worse than 98 but the apps were great. iMovie's so much better than Premier if you want to do simple NLE that looked great. No more need to fiddle around with analogue sources since firewire was standard on all macs.

I remember someone dishing the top end PowerMac G5 Quad for having a gay video card. If you're a gamer, yeah it stunk seeming very few games are CPU-dependent but this is the only mainstream desktop that has 2 dual core 64bit processors. So you could run Final Cut Pro, Motion, Soundtrack Pro & Compressor with each of them having a dedicated core.

Enter Woodcrest (Core Xeon) that will probably be the chip of choice to be the next dual dual-core CPUs for the pro-line of Macs. I'm guessing it'll have another gay graphics card but these computers arent toys. ;)

[nthfinity]

We have a slew of old PC's, each that function correctly today without changing the time coding. Also, i have some Solaris Sparc stations that all work flawlessly as well. So... then what say you? :P

[evoWalo]

functions correctly but reports a weird date or are they late 90s/early 00's "old"?

for what you're paying for your Solarium I'd expect them to work flawlessly as well. Too bad your documents will not work on 98.71878215% of the desktop market.

[nthfinity]

functions correctly but reports a weird date or are they late 90s/early 00's "old"?

for what you're paying for your Solarium I'd expect them to work flawlessly as well. Too bad your documents will not work on 98.71878215% of the desktop market.

1982 - early 90's pre windows ;) even pre-IBM pc.

the Solaris documents do work on PC's ;)

and who said i paid anything for them ;)

[evoWalo]

Nice museum. :lol:

functions correctly but reports a weird date or are they late 90s/early 00's "old"?

for what you're paying for your Solarium I'd expect them to work flawlessly as well. Too bad your documents will not work on 98.71878215% of the desktop market.

1982 - early 90's pre windows ;) even pre-IBM pc.

the Solaris documents do work on PC's ;)

and who said i paid anything for them ;)

[Minacious]

Apple doesnt sell $5000 machines. :) Top end's $2999.


This is completely false by the way.

[evoWalo]

Apple doesnt sell $5000 machines. :) Top end's $2999.


This is completely false by the way.
I looked again and it's $3299, my mistake. Far from a $5000 machine.

[Minacious]

Apple doesnt sell $5000 machines. :) Top end's $2999.


This is completely false by the way.
I looked again and it's $3299, my mistake. Far from a $5000 machine.

Again, you are still making making a false statement. That one for $3200 is pretty bare-bones if you ask me. Configure it with more horsepower and a decent amount of storage and the price starts to raise heavily. Simply put, yes they sell machines that cost more than $3200, much more.