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gangajas
06-14-2006, 03:48 PM
Summary of key statistics (order: Z06 / F430 / Gallardo / 997TT Manual with SC):

0-100 kph: 4.4s / 3.8s / 4.2s / 3.9s
0-200 kph: 13.0s / 12.2s / 13.4s / 12.5s
Top Speed: 320kph / 316 / 315 / 310
Handling: 1:39.4 / 1:38.1 / 1:38.2 / 1:38.1
Handlung: 63.5kph / 69.2 / 69.1 / 67.2
Stopping Distance: 35.1 / 33.4 / 33.4 / 33.2

F430 and Gallardo were equipped with Corsa tires.

chest3r
06-14-2006, 05:18 PM
:shock: :shock: The F430 is the fastest !!! :shock:

That's my favourite of the lot but I guess we won't see a victory like this in every magazine :roll:

Fleischmann
06-14-2006, 05:29 PM
Just shows what a difference 4WD makes in the accelerations tests (The 997TT has 10-30BHp less than the rivals). The reuslts don't really surprise me, the F430 was always the winner. I wonder if the tested Ferrari was equaipped with the optional carbon ceramic brakes, because it's lost that round to the Porsche.

Neema702
06-14-2006, 05:37 PM
^^^ Huh? I always thought AWD hurts acceleration from a standstill because you cant floor the engine. i think the porsche accelerates so well because its so light weight and its designed so well (use the power they have more effectively).

Fleischmann
06-14-2006, 05:45 PM
The 997 is infact the heaviest out of that bunch, at just under 1600 kg's.

chest3r
06-14-2006, 05:59 PM
Exactly because the 997 Turbo it's a 4WD it should be faster in the accelerations. Just like the 996 Turbo against the 360 Modena.

RC45
06-14-2006, 06:07 PM
Are those Corsa tyres stock or after market instns? Doesn't the F430 come with GoodYear RunFlats stock?

Hopefully those results show people exactly how close these cars - and that on any given day, any car/driver combo could come out on top.

twboy1999
06-14-2006, 10:34 PM
ferrari never come with good year

sentra_dude
06-14-2006, 11:08 PM
Impressive times, although the Z06 seems a bit slow, especially compared to what some American tests have gotten (like 1/2sec slower).

^^^ Huh? I always thought AWD hurts acceleration from a standstill because you cant floor the engine. i think the porsche accelerates so well because its so light weight and its designed so well (use the power they have more effectively).

It hurts acceleration from a standstill if you own the car...and you don't want to blow out the clutch, or the transmission, or a drive shaft or something...so you ease in the power at the start. ;) But, if you don't care about any of that and just drop the clutch, then AWD definitely helps, you have basically twice as much traction, so you can put the power down a lot more effectively.

RC45
06-14-2006, 11:52 PM
ferrari never come with good yearUhm yes they do.

I am sure the F360 shipped with GoodYear, I know the F50 did... I would not be surprised if the F430 didn't ship with GoodYear either.

http://es.goodyear.com/services/tyreguide/feat_eagle_f1_gs_fiorano.html


El modelo Goodyear Eagle F1 GS Fiorano fue desarrollado originariamente de manera específica para el Ferrari F50.

In English -

The model Goodyear Eagle F1 GS Fiorano was developed originally of specific way for the Ferrari F50.


I am resisting inserting an pwned comment ;)

yg60m
06-15-2006, 12:29 AM
I am resisting inserting an pwned comment ;)

lol, you're very reasonable these times :wink:
And indeed the Z06 seems slower than in other tests while the F430 is maybe a bit faster than I expected. But it was as fast in R&T and C&D tests if I am correct ...

DeMoN
06-15-2006, 12:50 AM
Top Gear reviewed F430 and it said CS of 360 tires were better therefore performing better round their track. Cant remember exactly what brand either of them was, but those still curious can play the episode and remember better.

ferrari550
06-15-2006, 01:06 AM
Are those Corsa tyres stock or after market instns? Doesn't the F430 come with GoodYear RunFlats stock?

Hopefully those results show people exactly how close these cars - and that on any given day, any car/driver combo could come out on top.

I know your the corvette king around here and you do not like anyone talking trash about it. I love ferrari and what not but, this statement is the correct statement when it comes to comparing the performance of the cars. Any car could win on any given day with any given driver. This is where i think the argument should stop between putting down american cars and praising european cars, because it ALL depends.

JoeHahn
06-15-2006, 02:10 AM
Didn't Ferrari use Good Year tyres while it was using them in F1? Now I'm pretty sure their cars come standard with Bridgestone because of their connection in F1.

davide
06-15-2006, 02:40 AM
Even who won or not, I'd choose between the 997TT and the 430... and the gallardo! It's a close call :)

damn, I have to buy all three of them... :shock:

RC45
06-15-2006, 02:41 AM
Didn't Ferrari use Good Year tyres while it was using them in F1? Now I'm pretty sure their cars come standard with Bridgestone because of their connection in F1.This is quite possibly the explanation.

fsandys
06-15-2006, 05:14 AM
F430 comes with Bridgestone stock but apparently runs much faster on Pirellis

The 599's I have seen have Pirellis on :D

espen
06-16-2006, 05:29 AM
Oh no, the unbeatable Z06 outrun by a humble 997 turbo. Looking forward to Sport Auto doing a supertest on it to confirm the numbers. Roll on the GT2 :lol:

nickthaskater
06-17-2006, 03:49 PM
Wow, what'd they do to that Z06? A base C6 with the Z51 package can run a 4.4 0-62mph time... A Z06 should be around 3.5-3.8 based on the countless reviews I've read.

And the F430 ships with Bridgestones, while the old Challenge Stradale (not sure about the standard 360 Modena...) shipped with Pirellis.

RAMMIUS
06-17-2006, 04:19 PM
^^^^ according to R&T 0-60mph in 3.9sec

http://www.roadandtrack.com/assets/download/0512_rivals_data_panel.pdf

not to mention automobilemag

http://www.automobilemag.com/reviews/coupes/0511_z06_gt_viper/stats.html

with 4.1 secs for 0-60 mph

RC45
06-17-2006, 06:49 PM
I know your the corvette king around here and you do not like anyone talking trash about it.

BTW this a bullshit image promoted by certain arseholes around these parts - anyone who has bothered to read anything I have posted over the last 3 years with some comprehension would know I have NEVER claimed that ANY car was the ulitmate or be all and end all of performance ;) :P

I don't care what the uneducated say, and know that there are haters in every crowd - but I always draw the line at ignoring flatout incorrect and false statements made :) - and will always offer the corrected data for consideraiton.

So at times I will remind people of the true numbers.. then I have ALWAYS followed up with the same thing"

"All these car are so close it is always a drivers race on the day"


I love ferrari and what not but, this statement is the correct statement when it comes to comparing the performance of the cars. Any car could win on any given day with any given driver.

If only you could get some other folks to see this universal truth...


This is where i think the argument should stop between putting down american cars and praising european cars, because it ALL depends.
Again - if only you could get some other folks to see this universal truth...
And this has been the case for many years - but others refuse to accept the fact that the false tripe they have been believing over the years is just that - false tripe :P

nickthaskater
06-17-2006, 07:24 PM
^^^^ according to R&T 0-60mph in 3.9sec

http://www.roadandtrack.com/assets/download/0512_rivals_data_panel.pdf

not to mention automobilemag

http://www.automobilemag.com/reviews/coupes/0511_z06_gt_viper/stats.html

with 4.1 secs for 0-60 mph
Motor Trend - 3.5 seconds
"We bolted our own test equipment to a car at GM's Milford Proving Ground and found it had grunt enough to hurl this 3147-pound coupe to 60 mph in 3.5 seconds"
http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/coupe/112_0510_2006_chevrolet_corvette_z06/index.html

Car and Driver - 3.6 seconds
"A few days after our trip, we took a Z06 to GM's Milford proving ground and tested it. It ripped to 60 mph in only 3.6 seconds, hit 100 in 7.9, and 150 in 17.5."
http://www.caranddriver.com/roadtests/9991/chevrolet-corvette-z06-page2.html

Two reviews in the mid-3s by major automotive magazines, proof enough as to what the car is capable of.

nickthaskater
06-17-2006, 07:30 PM
^^^^ according to R&T 0-60mph in 3.9sec

http://www.roadandtrack.com/assets/download/0512_rivals_data_panel.pdf

not to mention automobilemag

http://www.automobilemag.com/reviews/coupes/0511_z06_gt_viper/stats.html

with 4.1 secs for 0-60 mph
Motor Trend - 3.5 seconds
"We bolted our own test equipment to a car at GM's Milford Proving Ground and found it had grunt enough to hurl this 3147-pound coupe to 60 mph in 3.5 seconds"
http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/coupe/112_0510_2006_chevrolet_corvette_z06/index.html

Car and Driver - 3.6 seconds
"A few days after our trip, we took a Z06 to GM's Milford proving ground and tested it. It ripped to 60 mph in only 3.6 seconds, hit 100 in 7.9, and 150 in 17.5."
http://www.caranddriver.com/roadtests/9991/chevrolet-corvette-z06-page2.html

Two reviews in the mid-3s by major automotive magazines, proof enough as to what the car is capable of.
I just found that Car and Driver drove the car in another test, a comparison against the SRT-10 Coupe, and achieved 3.4 seconds 0-60 run.

We're still buzzing over the Z06's ferocious 3.4-second burst to 60 mph. That's two-tenths quicker than the Z06 we tested in October.
http://www.caranddriver.com/comparisons/11103/2006-chevrolet-corvette-z06.html

SPEEDKILLAR
06-17-2006, 08:28 PM
Damn, so the porsche is the heaviest and still up there :shock:

Sir_GT
06-21-2006, 09:52 AM
Take out the italians's corsa tires and it would've been Z06 v 997TT. No Question.

Tires = huge difference in times. Why do you think the M3 CSL came with semi-slicks?

RAMMIUS
06-21-2006, 10:08 AM
Tires = huge difference in times.


yeah, engine capacity too (say 7 litres), turbocharging again advantages and so on

BTW before being fanboy , what kind of tyres did the other used ?

Could it be Michelin Pilot Sport 2 for 911 TT ???

And then you see that although Corsa is King , MPS2 is not far away , hehehe

If you don`t have all the data from that test STFU fanboy