PDA

View Full Version : Ultima has set a new Record...?


R8audi
06-11-2006, 05:36 AM
Specialist British carmaker Ultima has set a new world record claiming its GTR is the "fastests supercar in the world". Is there justification in this claim. (My emphasis)

Ultima's director Richard Marlow clocked the new speed records.

He rocketed from 0-100 mph (about 160 km/h) in 5.3 seconds, while it stopped from 100 mph to 0 mph in an astonishing 3.6 seconds.

The GTR also set a new record for
0-100-0 mph in a blistering 9.4 seconds.

Another record that tumbled was the 0-60 mph (about 96 km/h), which the GTR did in just 2.6 seconds. This means the Ultima GTR is quicker that icons such as the Ferrari Enzo and McLaren F1 LM.

The Ultima GTR comes with a Chev V8 engine which thrusts out about 535 kW

Pictures :arrow: http://www.wheels24.co.za/Wheels24/Galleries/w24_GalleriesModelDetailComp/0,,2480,00.html

Obviously havent heard of the Veyron yet, have they... Anyway still quick, but this just seems like a dedicated track car, Still doesn't hold a candle to the Bugatti IMO...

Shinigami
06-11-2006, 06:28 AM
Supposedly it can get pretty hot in the cabin, and it's a bit claustrophobic, so not one for tall people.

Times are impressive tho', and whilst its been said that the Veyron does 0-60 in about 2.5 seconds, let's not forget all the +1000hp vipers and the like which do it even faster.

But as far as commercial cars go... At least this one doesn't cost a million bucks.

caneswell
06-11-2006, 08:20 AM
Obviously havent heard of the Veyron yet, have they... Anyway still quick, but this just seems like a dedicated track car, Still doesn't hold a candle to the Bugatti IMO...

Haha, it cost less than a 12th of the price!

MartijnGizmo
06-11-2006, 08:41 AM
So 5.3 + 3.6 = 9.4 now? :D

R8audi
06-11-2006, 11:07 AM
So 5.3 + 3.6 = 9.4


I noticed that too...

Whoever wrote the article didn't do very well in their maths finals obviously.

Maybe it has something to do with the fact that, the times quoted (5.3 & 3.6) were the best times achieved in seperate tests (Independant acceleration and braking) , and that the 9.4 was the best done for the combined effort. :)

TNT
06-11-2006, 12:36 PM
^^^ you have reaction time ;)

RC45
06-11-2006, 10:36 PM
Times are impressive tho', and whilst its been said that the Veyron does 0-60 in about 2.5 seconds, let's not forget all the +1000hp vipers and the like which do it even faster.
;) It would almost seem like you are a secret fan of the "Veyron beaters" ;)

TeflonTron
06-12-2006, 01:26 AM
So, do all of these 1000BHP+ Vipers and the like do it on street tires? Just asking, so don't read anything into it above that.

nthfinity
06-12-2006, 01:52 AM
So, do all of these 1000BHP+ Vipers and the like do it on street tires? Just asking, so don't read anything into it above that.

I just heard a story of a car that is running at a low psi from the factory making 980 hp (the car is built for 15 psi, and 1800-1900 hp) in existance from 1992.....

im very sure it would blow the doors off the Veyron, both in terms of accelleration (it might be more then 2.8 to sixty....) and in terms of top end..... (capable of 270+)

well.... the car does exist, and can do that.. but its 'hidden' away :(

its red BTW ;)

RC45
06-12-2006, 02:18 AM
So, do all of these 1000BHP+ Vipers and the like do it on street tires? Just asking, so don't read anything into it above that.

yes - they drive on street tyres

StanAE86
06-12-2006, 11:22 AM
That's bad-ass. Ultimas aren't street legal in the US are they? I've seen some car meet photos where someone shows up in one...but I'm not sure if it's legal?

The Radical isn't street legal in the US either is it? I thought I heard of a place that has been able to modify it for street use...probably as a "kit car"?

RC45
06-12-2006, 12:03 PM
Given that it costs about 1/10 as much as a Veyron, if you put all price differences aside, every single person here would take the Veyron, no questions asked.

I would not.

Period.

RC45
06-12-2006, 12:36 PM
Given that it costs about 1/10 as much as a Veyron, if you put all price differences aside, every single person here would take the Veyron, no questions asked.

I would not.

Period.

Fibber... :wink:

You've been biased against the Veyron since day 1 and will probably continue to be indefinitely simply because you saying that you like it in any way shape or form would in your eyes be admitting defeat to the likes of everso and everyone else you've ever been in an argument about the Veyron vs. whatever car being discussed at the time.

You'd take one, your just being difficult for arguments sake.

No - I do not like it... I would not take one. If given one I would sell it. The car does nothing for me.

period.

sameerrao
06-12-2006, 12:44 PM
Great performance numbers but the ultima seems more trackday oriented than a real road going car capable of handling bumps, traffic, etc.

I wouldn't take the Veyron. Nor for that matter the Ultima.

Actually I would take the $1.3MM Veyron money and buy me a bunch of nice Ferraris with it: Challenge Stradale, 288 GTO, 250 Lusso, 365 GTB/4 Daytona and a 512TR and still have some change left over. Good mix of old school and new school, V8, V12 and Flat 12 and 1500X more character.

RC45
06-12-2006, 12:59 PM
You don't like it and it does nothing for you, but you also haven't driven one(not that I have either).

I don't need to drive one - it does nothing for me - not looks, not performance - not shape - notsound - nothing.

Period. It is an automatic cruiser - I don't do automatic cruisers - doesn't matter how much they cost or how fast they go - period. I like to sshift and and be engaged in the car.


I'm not asking you to like it when compared to any of the other cars that are available, just the Ultima.

To keep - the Ulitma - in a heart beat - to sell the Veyron. I have no use for a car I would not use.. ;) And if I can't sell it why would I keep it?


Whether you'd sell it or not, between the 2 cars you'd probably take the Veyron; comparable performance,

Comparable performance? Uhm - not even close. The Veyron would be still trying a 3 point turn by the time the Ultima lapped it 4 times.


more comfortable, brand recognition, and exclusiveness.

All qualities that mean nothing to me.


As a car you would want in your garage and that you'd actually drive, it would be much easier to live with.
No it wouldn't.

It does nothing for me - period.

Shinigami
06-12-2006, 01:16 PM
Times are impressive tho', and whilst its been said that the Veyron does 0-60 in about 2.5 seconds, let's not forget all the +1000hp vipers and the like which do it even faster.
;) It would almost seem like you are a secret fan of the "Veyron beaters" ;)
I'm very partial to one thing that American sports cars do not always offer, that being "Comfort".

Whilst I've sat in american sports cars (Vipers, Corvettes and the Ford GT to name the most obvious ones), I think I'd find myself a bit more comfortable in the seat of a Veyron (also sat in one).

But it's really a case of "to each their own". My complete car package is a bit more then just handling, power, speed... For some people, it's important to have a car which has straight line prowess, others will prefer cornering abilities. At this moment, I also like to have comfortable seats, a cabin which doesn't get too hot and has a good aircon, easy driving, some boot space, nice stereo...

Having said that, if I can afford a Veyron, I would most likely be able to afford a few other cars, some of which are a lot less "comfortable" for those moments when I'm looking for something else in my commute.

A little Ultima, Atom or even a Ford GT would be "ok" for me, since I could always fall back on something a little less distressing, and ultimately more relaxing.

Unfortunately, I don't have the cash to buy a little bit of everything, because if I could, I'd definitely have cars of very different style just so that I can have something to fit my mood ;)

Only problem with 1000hp Vipers and Corvette's over here in Europe, is the availability of parts, the and the whole "legality" aspect. I really like the look of a Viper, but nobody here would make a 1000hp one for me, and I would never be able to afford the legalisation process of one in this country. Whilst the bits and pieces to pump out ridiculous amounts of power is very cheap in the states, this unfortunately is not the case over here. So it's all a question of compromises...