[edit] JW Houston AutoCross Skool - 06 *DATA*

[RC45]

How about it folks? If you are in the area or not in the area but plan to be in the area or you are in the area but planing on not being in the area but will return to the area or even if aren't in the area but are willing to come into the area why not join in?

How about we get together to attend the Houston SCCA "2006 Solo Rookie Skool "

http://www.houscca.com/solo/index.asp


Saturday June 3rd - 7am
2006 Solo Rookie Skool

This school will be good for almost any level driver. Beginners will get a ton of information to learn and immediately apply, and the more experienced drivers will get loads of seat time. Seat time is key to going fast and you will get more than a years worth of seat time with and instructor in one day. In the morning it will be a small class room session with a booklet to take home with you, then it is on to 6-7 separate exercises. We will then break for lunch which will be provided as well as breakfast. During the lunch break the instructors will set up an full length track for practice or until we close out the day between 4 and 6. Bring a helmet if you have one, otherwise we also have loaners. There is no obligation to run on Sunday if you attend the school.

The entry fee is $75 and you get:

Breakfast AND Lunch
1 hour Classroom
2-3 Hours Instructed Maneuvers
2 Hours Autocross Time
One Instructor for every 2 Students
A Years worth of Solo driving in one day!

Saturday June 3rd
Be there at 7:00am
Registration starts at 7:30
Class begins at 8:00
Should be over before 6:00pm


The truely hardcore may even sign up to attend the SUnday 6-4 race ;)


Attendance Register:
C5 Z06
996 C2
S4
240SX

[oscargarza88]

I WANT TO GO!! :D

thers a problem though.. my sti doesnt have 1000 miles yet!!! :(!! i knowy ya'll are gonna say well what r u wating for u still ahve a week.. tru.. i only have like 300 miles to go so mayb ill get them in a week.. most likelly...
but my dad doesnt really like the idea of me racing... i know.. stupid ur thinking... what more is a sti for... but well... he bought it.. his rules.. ill tell him about it, if i can ill pm u RC and ill c ya'll there!

[sameerrao]

I signed up for it ... Thanks for the heads up.

I am going to ask the officials to widen the track when my turn comes up .. lil piggie needs a lot of room :lol:

[FoxFour]

I WANT TO GO!! :D

thers a problem though.. my sti doesnt have 1000 miles yet!!! :(!! i knowy ya'll are gonna say well what r u wating for u still ahve a week.. tru.. i only have like 300 miles to go so mayb ill get them in a week.. most likelly...
but my dad doesnt really like the idea of me racing... i know.. stupid ur thinking... what more is a sti for... but well... he bought it.. his rules.. ill tell him about it, if i can ill pm u RC and ill c ya'll there!

Tell your dad how fun and educational an autocross session can be. You can learn a lot about car control in a safe environment, much more safer than running on a road course; unless you drive like an ass. Things like corner entry and extreme transient maneuvers, experiencing ABS lock-up can all be experienced in a controlled environment for the first time, compared to experiencing them in an emergency situation on the street for the first time.
He sounds like a cool dad, maybe you can persuade him to attend the school with you? Would be a great father/son bonding experience.

P.S.- Give me the keys to your car- I'll put the 300 miles on it in one day! :D

[sameerrao]

I WANT TO GO!! :D

thers a problem though.. my sti doesnt have 1000 miles yet!!! :(!! i knowy ya'll are gonna say well what r u wating for u still ahve a week.. tru.. i only have like 300 miles to go so mayb ill get them in a week.. most likelly...
but my dad doesnt really like the idea of me racing... i know.. stupid ur thinking... what more is a sti for... but well... he bought it.. his rules.. ill tell him about it, if i can ill pm u RC and ill c ya'll there!

Bring it ... and I don't think it is racing per se. I am gonna treat it like a driver's ed session .. i.e. learn how to negotiate slalom smoothly. Not going to rip thru the gears, punish the brakes even if means bottoming the time charts...

[nthfinity]

i look forward to your full report ;) Good luck for a quick time ya ol' novice ;)

[oscargarza88]

FoxFour- thanks for the ideas, ill try to persuade him into it... if he doesnt want to go with me ill find a way to take myself there, mayb take a friend or brother, and i think its very much worth the money!
sameerrao- nice way to look at it, i think i will do the same, cause after all "im just a 18yo" right,, how good can a drive :wink: so yea i think being smooth is our priority... :roll:

[TopGearNL]

I would love to come mate, but Rotterdam is such a long distance away, maybe next time :wink:

[oscargarza88]

:x :x :x
i finnally get the ok from my dad to go! and its full "regrisration is colsed" !!! thers no more free spots! that sux!
RC, anything i can do?

[RC45]

Well - perhaps you could make the trip in the morning and hope someone doesn't show up.

It is 7:30 registration for 8am start - I am sure there will be at least 1 no show.

[oscargarza88]

Well - perhaps you could make the trip in the morning and hope someone doesn't show up.

It is 7:30 registration for 8am start - I am sure there will be at least 1 no show.

Yea thats what i had planned, at least to meet you guys.
I emailed the person in charge to see if i could do something... i hope he replys fast. Or mayb just join the hour class and just sit out on the rest... i dont know.. ill go anywas though.

[Minacious]

Another fun gathering I can't attend because I live too far. DAMNIT!

[oscargarza88]

Ok im in! :mrgreen:
i emailed Rich Tomlin and he made me a spot! :)
i have to be there very early though!
so RC whats the fastest way to get there? becaue i dont know my way around over there, or i can just go to mapquest, but whats the full adress?

* oh btw, i have 900+miles on the sti so only 100 more, which i could do in the next day or so. but does this mean i dont have to worry about anything? or should i still "baby it", even though i was 1k over in the rpm's quite often... :roll: ?

[nthfinity]

Ok im in! :mrgreen:
i emailed Rich Tomlin and he made me a spot! :)
i have to be there very early though!
so RC whats the fastest way to get there? becaue i dont know my way around over there, or i can just go to mapquest, but whats the full adress?

* oh btw, i have 900+miles on the sti so only 100 more, which i could do in the next day or so. but does this mean i dont have to worry about anything? or should i still "baby it", even though i was 1k over in the rpm's quite often... :roll: ?

even exotics these days are ok down around 500 miles. you ought to be ok by now ;) just change your oil after the autocross, and have fun, and good luck!

p.s. we'll see if an STi really does out handle a Z :P :wink:

[RC45]

*****DISCLAIMER******

If you attend this event that is sanctioned by the SCCA and hosted at Gulf Grehound Park, please note that you will waiving ALL rights to hold myself, Jabba, JW, nthfinity, sameerrao (hell even everson), my uncle, his dog, the guy with the rusty Hyundai as well as anyone else, living or dead, responsible for ANYTHING that may happen to you EVER.

This means you azssume ALL liability for your actions - as well as the actions of everyone everywhere in relation to this event or any other event.

By attending you hereby indemnify myself, Jabba, JW, TT and that weird guy that was banned from the site in 2004 as well as ANYONE else if anything happens to you - even if nothing happens to you - this includes but is not limited to passanger rides, video shots, shared hot cups of coffee or ANTHING else.

OK?

What ever happens is your fault - completly.

This includes acceptanc eof the "buddy ego" clause, also known as the "brass balls paragraph" that states even if your buddy offers you a ride and he then smashes headlong into a semi you assume all liability and responsiblity for all your actions and indemnify your buddy, his estate, the guys who bottle the beer he was drinking and the car manufacturer as well as the facility where met your demise.

[RC45]

Ok im in! :mrgreen:
i emailed Rich Tomlin and he made me a spot! :)
i have to be there very early though!
so RC whats the fastest way to get there? becaue i dont know my way around over there, or i can just go to mapquest, but whats the full adress?

* oh btw, i have 900+miles on the sti so only 100 more, which i could do in the next day or so. but does this mean i dont have to worry about anything? or should i still "baby it", even though i was 1k over in the rpm's quite often... :roll: ?

Gulf Greyhound Park - mapquest

folks from the north side will probably convoy down anyway, but this "convoy" in no way constitues an organized event and joining said convoy is under the condition of accepting all liability and risk and indemnifying anyone else in the convoy (and elsewhere in the State of texas) from any and all liability for anything that happens to anyone - ever. :)

[Vansquish]

Oohhh...wish I had a car that I would be at ease driving around an autocross course...and that I happened to be in the Houston area, this looks like a really excellent opportunity to get some decent instruction and have quite a lot of track time. I looked up the Michigan chapter of the SCCA and it appears that there are similar events around here, so perhaps a JW autocross meet can be arranged :-D

[TransAm]

I don't think my Dodge Ram would be too good at Autocross so I'll leave it :wink:

[nthfinity]

I don't think my Dodge Ram would be too good at Autocross so I'll leave it :wink:
you know, Eric at the Autozone books +hobbies autocrosses his Dodge Ram regularly ;)

[RC45]

Well - you all ready?

Leet's git id aawwwwwwnnn!

[RC45]

What a freaking blast it was.

And before any one says anything :P oscar put down a 38s fast run - and I did a 40s... ;)

But consider I was doing my pace runs and was about to make my fast run - but they closed the course before I could get it done - I had 4 runs - he had 5 (the last being his quickest ;))

On the plus side I did pull 1.4G on the skid pad ;)

Pics and video to follow.

[oscargarza88]

What a freaking blast it was.

And before any one says anything :P oscar put down a 38s fast run - and I did a 40s... ;)

But consider I was doing my pace runs and was about to make my fast run - but they closed the course before I could get it done - I had 4 runs - he had 5 (the last being his quickest ;))

On the plus side I did pull 1.4G on the skid pad ;)

Pics and video to follow.

yes it was it was a BLAST!!

And thanks 4 recognizing Paul, yet ur data is incorrect ;) lol, my last run was a 39.. i think i hit a cone... my only clean run was my 38... which was my second to last :P , but we didnt have enough track time to actually try out new lines or tecniques, it all went by soo fast!
And ur 1.4G's was when u spun out! :lol:
haha

seriouslly, ur was looked really good out there, a couple more runs,and more throttle would have gotten u in the 37 or 38.
And samero looked good too yet i dont know if its the car but it didnt seem to be at its limit... i know its heavy and all...

oh and i got a few pics, they suk but hey theyr a start till RC post his good pics and his video, i want too see my runs really bad! too bad no one got us in the actual track though... that would have been some good video...

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this was a good one xcept 4 the stupid camera strap in the way!
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and at the end of the day... resting from a hard day... i wonder whos'e black car that is... lol
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just remembering it gets me exited, i wish i could do it again soon! xcept for the fact that my parents still think it was a "Defensinve driving" class thing... :? .
oh and Paul, i did make it home with just 5 buks of gas :) the light was on the whole time but i made it

thanks for getting me into this! i woudnt have if i woudnt have read it here!

[ZfrkS62]

sounds like it was a ton of fun. Looking forward to the vid and other pics. Only 3 JW members made it? thought there alot more in TX. I know TA is getting ready to move.. Too bad i couldn't make it out. Would have been fun to humiliate all of you with the Yoda :wink:

[sikx5]

Wow that would of been great fun! Looks like a top event! I cant wait to attend a skid pan day here, would be great fun! :mrgreen:

All three of your cars look good fellas, very nice! Did anyone get any action shots at all?

[SilviaEvo]

3 insanely nice sensible cars looks like a really fun day

[sameerrao]

I had a blast yesterday.

There were 4 training events and an Autocross to round things up.
- Skidpad (100 ft)
- Slalom
- Braking
- Beans and Beans - small oval course with increasing and decreasing radius turns.

Oscar, RC and me were in the same group. Another friend of RC's who drove a 911 was in another group.

We started with Skidpad exercise where the first thing out of the mouth of the instructor was - "Anyone with BMWs - they are restricted to a max of 5 laps." Apparently some of the Bimmers faced oil starvation issues on the skidpad and suffered seized engines. The skidpad was quite fun, we got to a speed where the wheel was held stationary and the car's attitude was controlled by throttle position. I think AWD made it very, very stable here but RWD allows a little more throttle control. The STi has a cool switch which allows the torque to be sent to the rear. Oscar reported that the car handled much better this way.

On one of my loops on the skidpad, the woman instructor told me to really gas it and when I did so my car lurched a couple feet sideways in a brutal manner. Soon after the check engine light came out. I thought the curse of the BMWs had come upon me. Fortunately, the light went out after some time. It was a few anxious moments though. The Gods of Audi were looking after me today. :)

We next went to Slalom which was a really fun course. I was a real thrill flinging the car from side to side and I really thought my car did very well - no lurching or swaying unnecessarily - it acquitted itself very well. The slalom teaches you to look ahead and turn well ahead of the cone. I felt I really learned something here.

Then we did the Beans exercise which was the most fun course - taking an increasing radius corner at full power makes you feel that all is right with the world. The decreasing radius corners taught me to be patient on entry - slow in fast out. RC seemed to have a lot of fun playing with the gas pedal teasing the rear end out.

Then we did the braking exercise which made us hit the brake pedals hard enough to trigger the ABS and figure out for ourselves how much we can brake without locking the wheels. I could see RC laying a lot of rubber down on the standing start all the way to the braking point. He seemed to enjoy it.

After a bit of lunch we went to the Autocross - did a walkthru first and then hit the track which had a lot of slaloms, sweepers, etc. Unfortunately our group didn't get as much track time as the last one. I particularly needed it as I DNF'd the first two runs - got confused with the cones :lol: . The instructor then made me make a slow lap to learn it properly and then afterwards I finally did a nice clean lap (41s). Unfortunately I couldnt do any more runs. Disappointing as I finally got the hang of the circuit. There were seconds to be made up but I think my fat piggie did a good job on the circuit.

So all in all a great day. I think I learned quite a bit....

[No.1]

Cheers for the write up sameer.
Sounds like fun, and a great opportunity to learn. And it doesn't sound as if a high-performance car is strictly necessary.

I might keep a look outt for similar events happening over this side of the pond that might be able to try over summer :good:

Thanks for the pics, too, Oscar. And congrats on your first (?) tracking experience with your STi (lucky SOB). It sounds like you did well 8)

[RC45]

^^ There was a guy there with a late 1990s Jaguar Van Den Plas, another with a lat 90's BMW 740i and even a chap in a Dodge Dakota long-bed pickup truck - so you really don't need a hi-po car to have fun. But it helps :P

[ZfrkS62]

oil starvtion on the skidpad??? hmm..who'da thunk it? :bah:

Reading your write up, sameer, i really wish i could have made it :D

[oscargarza88]

nice write up samerr.
thenumber1- yes it is my first track experience, its my first anything experience! i mean com on it barelly has 1200 miles.. :) , thanks.

and as RC said you will have fun on matter what car u have, a guy even took a honda pilot, just to play around though...

oh and i forgot to mention that on my way there i got hit by a rock in my windsheld (barelly noticable) and on the way back a bird hit me, yes a bird! it was floppin around and it just came across me and hit me in the right side of the windshield, it jus t left some feathers there... not too bad... just my luck..., specially with my tires, they have som weird cuts on the sides, i found some more today when i cheked them out... and that suks because my parents bave been askin me about it, like was i goin fast.. and what exacfly we were doing? and things like that... :s

[RC45]

Rocks, birds and tyre scratches - all part of road hazards.

Simple ecplanation - when you drive around cones you stress your tyres more than street driving - often the tyre sidwall may make momentary contact with the road surface - this can happen even when making rapid transitions at 15 mph.

Let your dad know the maximum speeds reached yesterday were about 38mph - and that you were taking tunrs at abou 20mph.

Seems it may be time for us to get your father out and exposed the world a little - he may yet regret selling the Porsche afterall.

[ZfrkS62]

oscar, this is where tire pressures really make a difference. The last autocross i participated in, i had my front tires set at about 40psi. the lancers were setting their rears at about 38 and fronts at 36 IIRC. Next time you do this, mark the shoulders of your tires with dabs of paint and after each run observe where the paint is rubbing off at. If the paint remains on the sidewall, you need more air. If the paint remains on the tread, take air out. You want it right on the shoulder where the sidewall meets the tread. This should prevent the cuts you are talking about.

But definetly take RC's advise and bring your dad to the next event. I am sure he'll have a blast.

[RC45]

Here you go:

I think from now on, anytime there is a JW crew get together, we should have abanner created, and a thread (such as this one) the a special section for Already held JW crew events (not for planning - but simply recording the actual event).

Then the "official baner gets stored there, along qith the event thread - maybe a sticky with the Banners being hotlinks to invidual threads.

Perhaps as folks attend more and more events we can have "thumbnail" banners so you can collect a whole bunch in your signature.

Of course, you only get to show a banner if you attend ;) - and for it to be a "JW event" should we say at least2, or even perhaps 3 JW members need to attend?

The First Banner
http://img336.imageshack.us/img336/5343/skool06banner4ga.jpg

[No.1]

nice idea RC!
Obviously similar things are on local(ised) forums (where meets occur more frequently), but i like the banner idea a lot :good:

and thanks for the advice guys! Todays TG made me really wanna get my ass doing some advanced driving 8)

[ZfrkS62]

the only problem i see with that is after 4 or 5 get togethers, the banner collection is going to be pretty big :wink:

[RC45]

the only problem i see with that is after 4 or 5 get togethers, the banner collection is going to be pretty big :wink:

But thats the idea ;)

Enough of the bickering and infighting and bullshit that nhas become the norm lately on JW... Jabba sent me in to clean the messup and short of actually having people "rubbed out" via various contacts we have, I think this is the next best thing - encourage local JW member interaction, then share the results with the rest of the global memberships ;)

Don't worry - there is going to be a banner that is retrofittable and will be grandfathered in to include the JW Fun Run :P heheh ;)

So you get to sport a Banner too :P

For muti-event attendees perhaps smalley bannerettes will work in the signatures :)

[oscargarza88]

yea RC thats a great idea!, so this means more meets and so... thats cool with me :)
and about the tire thing if its normal then i dont care, because it is not very noticable, and if it doesnt hurt the tire it doesnt hurt me.
and ZfrkS62, i put 40 all around, i asked this guy with a Evo MR and he did the same thing, so i figured its good there, ill try different things next times.
And yea I probably am going to take my dad next time i want to go, he will probably suk driving though, because ive never seen him drive hard... but he will have fun.
But yea RC good idea! and thats picture is cool where are the rest? we want to see them! :)

*if size is a problem then mayb small ones will do the trick, or what type of banners are you talkin about? lke the one u have in ur sig right now?

[RC45]

Gathering of the Eagles ;)
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The Cars
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The Tyres and Brakes after a day of abuse
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oscars new avatar ;)
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Steve testing the scrutineers savy - by leaving the "hood" open fr them to inspect his engine :P ;)
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[TNT]

who's silly little silver vette is that :wink: looks like great fun. i want to upgrade with some shocks, swaybar, and brakes. so i can do some auto-x

[RC45]

A sample of what is to be coming in the Video Department ... ;)

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Linky :arrow: http://media.rc45.net/media/ww3.zip

[nthfinity]

A sample of what is to be coming in the Video Department ...

well, it seems that lower weight + more hp + flatter turning does help in the skidpad department :)

that said, Sameer does seem to be going well ;)


a note for future skidpad tests:

set up the tripod + video to see the whole skidpad, and have no camera movements needed (since the action is in plain view)

[TNT]

what were the numbers? just doing more laps doesn't make you the winner.

[sameerrao]

Yeah .. yeah .. pick on the poor, hard working, son of the soil, sole breadearning German car!! The wagon of the Volks ... the people's choice. ;)

Do you have a video of us going the other way around?

[RC45]

what were the numbers? just doing more laps doesn't make you the winner.

?

Uhm - higher speed - higher G number - more laps in the same time - I guess if that doesn't make a winner then a snappy interior must be the ticket to the checkered flag after all. :)

[dutchmasterflex]

heheh.. WW3 ;)

Looks like you guys were having a lot of fun. I have always wanted to attend a autocross event but can never find one at the right time.


RC, taking it easy on the tires there?

[sameerrao]

what were the numbers? just doing more laps doesn't make you the winner.

?

Uhm - higher speed - higher G number - more laps in the same time - I guess if that doesn't make a winner then a snappy interior must be the ticket to the checkered flag after all. :)

Pshhh ... Of course!!

[TNT]

what were the numbers? just doing more laps doesn't make you the winner.

?

Uhm - higher speed - higher G number - more laps in the same time - I guess if that doesn't make a winner then a snappy interior must be the ticket to the checkered flag after all. :)

you all start at the same time and you keep going after he stops..........

[RC45]

what were the numbers? just doing more laps doesn't make you the winner.

?

Uhm - higher speed - higher G number - more laps in the same time - I guess if that doesn't make a winner then a snappy interior must be the ticket to the checkered flag after all. :)

you all start at the same time and you keep going after he stops..........

Hehehe - you are determined to make me pwn you ;) I gave you a gracious out but if you insist on asking for it... :P

Observe when the 2 cars start, and the count and observe how many laps the 2 cars have completed by the time the first car leaves the screen.. ;)

Report back with which car was further ahead by that time .... :P ;)

[Daggernite]

Just watched the vid RC, looks like these events are fun. Good to see your vette in action. I like people who use there how they was designed to be used. good stuff!
sameerrao good stuff from you too! Now come on.. I wanna see oscars STI, im a jap car fanatic after all :D

[TNT]

what were the numbers? just doing more laps doesn't make you the winner.

?

Uhm - higher speed - higher G number - more laps in the same time - I guess if that doesn't make a winner then a snappy interior must be the ticket to the checkered flag after all. :)

you all start at the same time and you keep going after he stops..........

Hehehe - you are determined to make me pwn you ;) I gave you a gracious out but if you insist on asking for it... :P

Observe when the 2 cars start, and the count and observe how many laps the 2 cars have completed by the time the first car leaves the screen.. ;)

Report back with which car was further ahead by that time .... :P ;)

fine fine be a fan boy and just go on hear say. he still could of been pulling harder, i like numbers; videos can be messed with ;) :P

but remember i am on your side. i just want to know what kind of numbers you can pull

[RC45]

what were the numbers? just doing more laps doesn't make you the winner.

?

Uhm - higher speed - higher G number - more laps in the same time - I guess if that doesn't make a winner then a snappy interior must be the ticket to the checkered flag after all. :)

you all start at the same time and you keep going after he stops..........

Hehehe - you are determined to make me pwn you ;) I gave you a gracious out but if you insist on asking for it... :P

Observe when the 2 cars start, and the count and observe how many laps the 2 cars have completed by the time the first car leaves the screen.. ;)

Report back with which car was further ahead by that time .... :P ;)

fine fine be a fan boy and just go on hear say. he still could of been pulling harder, i like numbers; videos can be messed with ;) :P

but remember i am on your side. i just want to know what kind of numbers you can pull

:) Oh, don't worry - I'm not a fan boy ;) - I will be posting the data logged from the Skid Pad sessions a bit later.

Why would I "doctor" a video? :P -- the numbers show 1.4G lateral acceleration , I don't need to "doctor" videos :P ;)

[sameerrao]

Dr. RC .... didnt know that.

I have been getting this slight pain in the right arm. :)

Say, we need to do a country run soon. My parents are coming on the 23rd and my availability for hooliganism will drop drastically....

[RC45]

Dr. RC .... didnt know that.

I have been getting this slight pain in the right arm. :)

Uhm - get married and call me in the morning.. :P



Say, we need to do a country run soon. My parents are coming on the 23rd and my availability for hooliganism will drop drastically....
Invite them along - the more the merrier. :)

[sameerrao]

Yeah right ... my mom gets motion sickness at brisk speeds .. let alone insane speeds. She is like a virtual handbrake - sloow down....

[ZfrkS62]

Just DLd the vid and i'll watch it after i eat (cooking fajitas tonight, so it shouldn't be long :D )

[666fast]

Good stuff! I can't wait till ym piece of shitis payed off, I need a toy car damnit.

Looks like you guys had fun, which is what it's all about!

[oscargarza88]

that was a nice job in the video RC, and yea if the video suks its my fault.. i took those parts of the video... a little shaky and unessesary zoom... but its not too bad, and yea do u have video of me running? im just curious of how i was doing...

[666fast]

I'm just posting again to laugh at my wicked grammar skillz in my previous post!!

[agentorange]

Hey RC just DL the vid, nice, i cant believe i had to work on saturday. i was gonna go to the sunday event but i spent the day hunting down the parts to fix my windows. I see you are doing some recruiting for the next ride along the not so english country side, but your right the more the merrier, just hope i can keep up with whoever decides to join.

[RC45]

Are we really gonna have another Houston get together sometime soon? If so, when is it gonna take place?

Uhm - we just had one this last weekend? :P


Also, does anyone know how many people on JW live in or around the Houston area? If we had 5-10 guys get together, that would be awesome. What is the biggest JW meet up so far?
Doesn't matter really - cause only 4 have ever shown up :P (including me, sameer, oscar and agentorange.. :P)

[sameerrao]

Agentorange? Did I meet you?

[RC45]

Agentorange? Did I meet you?

You sure did - think 240SX.. ;)

Here is some skid-pad analysis data.

http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/8562/analysisskid3qm.th.jpg (http://img152.imageshack.us/my.php?image=analysisskid3qm.jpg)
http://img117.imageshack.us/img117/8018/analysisskidlaps2tp.th.jpg (http://img117.imageshack.us/my.php?image=analysisskidlaps2tp.jpg)

[RC45]

Are we really gonna have another Houston get together sometime soon? If so, when is it gonna take place?

Uhm - we just had one this last weekend? :P


Also, does anyone know how many people on JW live in or around the Houston area? If we had 5-10 guys get together, that would be awesome. What is the biggest JW meet up so far?
Doesn't matter really - cause only 4 have ever shown up :P (including me, sameer, oscar and agentorange.. :P)

^^Thank you for the sarcasm Paul, I know we had one last weekend but y'all were tralking about having more so I thought I'd ask. Also, I'd be more than willing to show up to the events if I could so don't make an excuse out of me.

Ouch... ;) a little cranky today :P - you didn't get any underage this weekend then ;) :P

trust me - if an event is planned or anticiapetd, it will be advertised and promoted... right here on JabbasWorld Dot Net.. ;)

[oscargarza88]

those analysis look interesting, nice way to see what your car can do, or is doing, in ur case since u had ur laptop with you.

But is that all the good video u have? no sti...? :cry: :D

[TNT]

Agentorange? Did I meet you?

You sure did - think 240SX.. ;)

Here is some skid-pad analysis data.

http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/8562/analysisskid3qm.th.jpg (http://img152.imageshack.us/my.php?image=analysisskid3qm.jpg)
http://img117.imageshack.us/img117/8018/analysisskidlaps2tp.th.jpg (http://img117.imageshack.us/my.php?image=analysisskidlaps2tp.jpg)

that isn't that bad what all do you have done? and for street tires those lat. numbers are really good. keep them coming.

[agentorange]

Agentorange? Did I meet you?

yeah, you were in the AUDI right???? man, im ready for another drive hopefully we get to go sometime soon, and maybe more people show up(but nobody faster than me) :wink: except you and RC. J/P i was the slowest one there that day and i cooked my breaks, speaking of cooking brakes, how are those new rotors working RC???

[nthfinity]

how are those new rotors working RC???

LOL

note to self, dont re-use used rotors :P

[RC45]

Agentorange? Did I meet you?

You sure did - think 240SX.. ;)

Here is some skid-pad analysis data.

http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/8562/analysisskid3qm.th.jpg (http://img152.imageshack.us/my.php?image=analysisskid3qm.jpg)
http://img117.imageshack.us/img117/8018/analysisskidlaps2tp.th.jpg (http://img117.imageshack.us/my.php?image=analysisskidlaps2tp.jpg)

that isn't that bad what all do you have done? and for street tires those lat. numbers are really good. keep them coming.

Thats a stock suspension Z06 buddy :P - I have 480bhp instead of the orginal 385bhp (and 2002 newe 405bhp) - but the bouncy bits are all stock street Z06 - infact my springs are 70,000 miles old - shocks are about 20,000 miles old.

Maybe now folks will believe us when we say it is a F360CS/P911GT3 equal - in the right hands - witnessed by John Heinrichy's 7m56s lap of the Nurburgring - the same time as the 996 GT3 ;)

[TNT]

^^^ but aftermarket tires :wink:

[nthfinity]

^^^ but aftermarket tires :wink:

like so many people do... yet they are still DOT legal by a long shot ;)

a lot of autocrossers run slicks in these necks of the woods (in the upper echelons)

[RC45]

^^^ but aftermarket tires :wink:

I am confident the stock GY F1SC's would deliver the same performance - the Kumhos just cost $135 per front instead $200 and the rears are $250 instead of $350 each :)

[oscargarza88]

hey Paul,
how r those videos treatin ya ;) lol...

[RC45]

hey Paul,
how r those videos treatin ya ;) lol...

Not bad - I have almost finished erasing, I mean - editing the bits with the STi :P ;)

[Pehtren]

I see you had a great day, thats very nice. I like your cars. :P

Waitting for the vids :D

[oscargarza88]

hey Paul,
i know its been for ever and i dont even know if u have the videos still, but if u do and its not too much of a hasle to upload that would b great, if its not posible its alright, i was just curious of my driving ;)
thanks