X-Men 3: WTF DID THEY DO??!?!?!

[Sir_GT]

It... sucked. :|

[spanky]

Was it that bad? I was thinking of seeing it on weekend too.

[bmagni]

i thought it was gonna be good... so I guess its better to wait for rent

[HeilSvenska]

Well. I need to know exactly why I should not go watch it tomorrow.

[TNT]

i am heading anyways i have loved the first two, i want a box set of all three.

[coloradosilver]

It... sucked. :|

Thats kind of a bullshit comment.

Tell us why it sucked, that wouold be a bit more informative. Do so without giving things away if possible.

[nthfinity]

meh, I'll still see it and enjoy it

My guess is it suffered the Episode I, II, III fever... too many characters, too many fights, too little time. I'll let you know after I see it

[TT]

It... sucked. :|

Your opinion, and of course explaining why would be more constructive.

IMO it was brillant actually! Lot of powerfull action, Miss Grey as sexy and hittable as ever (same goes for Rogue ;)), new mutants and a good plot! Some strong/sad moments..

IMO it's worth to be seen, it was really enjoyable!

[Evo]

Saw 1 & 2 and both were good 3 is even better IMO.. enjoyed every min of it...

[Shinigami]

Saw it last night and thought it was quite good actually.

[TT]

You were at Flon's? We could have met there, but hell, when we arrived the parking was full :shock: so we redirected ourselves toward Malley which is actually 100 meters from home ;)

[Chaos in 1983!]

I saw it last night, and I think it was very good, easily the best one of the three. Good plot, action packed, penty of mutants, Jean was evil and sexy as hell. And man, what an ending! just awesome...

So I only have a few complaints about the movie, first off, not even a cameo of Gambit, I would've loved to see him at least in the crowd of mutants. They kill the proffesor, does this happen in the comics?

I didn't like Juggernaut, he isn't a mutant, he gets his power from this wierd rock, and when he charges Kitty and the other kid that takes away mutation, he looses his strenght (because of the bald kid) and smashes into the wall and falls to the floor...I didn't like the helmet which looked like a penis in the movie, and was made from concrete, wtf?

Still, it is a great movie, I loved it...everybody go see it...

[dutchmasterflex]

Oh dear God I hope the new director didn't ruin this movie!!!

[5vz-fe]

When I open this thread, I am really scared that it gonna suck I was looking forward to see it tonight. Alittle relief that at least there are some mixed comments. Will let you guys know...

(leaving this thread now before the spoiler comes)

[Daggernite]

I went to see this yesterday. Brilliant! great effects, great story (well if you like comic-ish storys) and good action. Id recommend it for kids and adults because its the kind of film everyone can watch.

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[HeilSvenska]

How hot is Mystik in her un-mutant form!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ******

Meh, I saw that in the trailer.

I heard that the plot's kind of iffy, but I'm going to watch it today anyways.

[Sir_GT]

Ok, here's my explanation why it sucked (copy and pasted it from my blog because it's not a movie that's worth the effort of writing two posts)

I saw the film the other day (Wednesday) with Jenn, my co-dork (Let's just admit it dear, shall we?), and after X-Men 2, Jenn and I were expecting a lot from X-Men 3. I mean hey, why not? It was about Dark Phoenix after all, the single greatest storyline in the history of X-Men. Anybody familiar with comicbooks knows this. I swear, I was so excited I was actually becoming agitated when all these people were trying to find their seats when the lights went off. The movie hasn't actually started yet, but the whole time people were walking in front of me, I was holding back myself from shouting out "Get the f*ck out of my face people! It's f*cking X-Men 3!"

Yes. I know. I am a dork.

So as the movie started, and as the story started to unravel, I was really starting to get into it. A cure for the mutant gene? What an interesting concept to throw in. A mutant whose power is to suppress the powers of other mutants? Hmmm... all these possibilities started flowing into my head... "Are they going to use him to suppress the dark phoenix power?" That would be an interesting twist I thought.

Well, twist is right. Because as the story went on, a gigantic cloud of doubt with "Oh My God They Are Going To F*ck This Up" started to hover above me. This is the Dark Phoenix saga right? So where are the Hellfire Club? Where's Jason Wynngarde? The man whose power is to create hallucinations in people's minds. He was the man that created hallucinations in Jean Grey's mind, posing as her lover from the past, and thus awakening her Dark Phoenix power when he convinced her to join the Hellfire Club as the Black Queen.

Then the whole thing just started going horribly, horribly wrong.

Who just died? Who else died? Well, just the two most important characters in the Dark Phoenix saga! Wolverine was practically a non-entity in that story, and yet, the two most important characters were killed off! Oh blimey, I thought, if the rumors are true, and this is supposed to be the last X-Men film, then they certainly went out with the biggest fart in hollywood history.

I won't spoil the movie for those who haven't seen it, but I seriously cannot recommend this to either comicbook or non-comicbook fans alike. As a film, X-Men 3 is as cliche and as cheesy as they come. Personally, I thought it was the worst among the 3 X-Men films (yes, even worse than the first) if I was looking at it from a movie go-er's perspective. As a comic-to-film adaptation... well... let's just say that they actually figured out how to completely butcher one of the best storylines ever written. Well done mates. I think if a fourth one comes out, I'll just download it on bittorrent. At least I won't waste P500.

So in conclusion?

Movie: X-Men 3: The Last Stand
Verdict: 2 out of 5
Comment: If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

[Shinigami]

So basically you didn't like it because the movie was different from the comic book?

Well, I haven't read much Marvel comics, so the movie was just right for me. Who was I to know what the phoenix was and so on.. so it seemed all just fine for me.

TT: I was in the "Galleries" cinema near the railway station in Lausanne.

[Sir_GT]

Sounds to me like you're just pissed because the movie was not made completely after the source matherial. Which in essence doesn't really tell anything about how good the movie is. My guess is that it's much better then you say...\

Not at all. In fact, all three X-Men films didn't follow the comic books. Thing is, the first two X-Men films were good as stand-alone films. Especially X-Men 2. The direction of the film, the script, and where they placed the main plot points were well done. It was a film you would want to see from start to finish.

X-Men 3 is a far cry from that. You could predict what was going to happen next, and when you thought or expected something to happen, instead of a clever twist being utilized, you end up with a half-assed one. The use of the mutant gene-suppressing kid is a perfect example. The drug was the backbone of the story, and they dedicated quite a few significant scenes to the boy (such as his little way of greeting Beast), building him up to be quite a character in the story.

And then... nothing happened. So the little X-Men girl pushed him away just in time for him to cancel out Juggernaut's powers... which sounds good on paper, but in the film, you could see that scene from a mile away.

The film was just so predictable... It was riddled with cliches and cheesy scenes. The scene wherein Magneto goes "what have I done..." was so poorly executed it was nearly a parody.

Seriously. It was a crap movie. Compared to Spiderman 1 & 2, X-Men 1 & 2, V for Vendetta, and Batman Begins? X-Men 3 was shite. Sorry. It really just was.

[TT]

As others, I am not a fan of Marvel comics, so from that point of view I have no opinion.. as for cliches or predictable outcome, IMO such things doesn't necessarily spoil the plot.. this is an action movie afterall, and ppl want action, not intricated plots to follow. It was a very entertaining action movie.. IMO it just depends from which perspective you look at it :bah:

[DeMoN]

I totally forgot this started to be shown on theaters! Damn, gotta go see it!

[HeilSvenska]

Meh, Sir_GT, I don't go to the movies as a critic. I go to the movies to be entertained. I'm sorry if you weren't entertained, but that's no valid reason to say that the movie was crap. I thought it was really good (although that's not a valid reason to say it wasn't a bad movie). Granted, the movie, by its unique nature, cannot have profound character development, but I thought it had many surprising twists. And yes, you have to remember that this was a movie made from a freakin comic book! It was a good action/sci-fi movie. And the special effects. The special effects were awesome. So people go watch it to have fun, not to criticize it. If you aren't satisfied, you can always petition for a refund.

And everyone who are going to see it. Stick around till the end of the end credit there's something you may want to see.

By the way X2 didn't do anything for me. The plot was okay, but it nearly had zero character development.

[Zot09]

I found it to be a pretty good movie. The story was pretty well written, and kept me and my 15-other dorm-mates entertained. Just to tell you guys, you deffinitly have to watch this clip on youtube before you watch the movie.
http://youtube.com/watch?search=juggernaut&v=P8mXPtCZDd0
After you watch it(or if you already have and didn't get it) it will make you laugh sooooo hard during the movie(it made all of my friends and me laugh, so i'm sure it will do the same for you). It was worth my $9; I give the movie a 8/10. [/b]

[HeilSvenska]

Pah. I paid just $5! That Juggernaut scene was hilarious.

[Caplax40]

^^^^^^^^^ It says I have to sign up, but if that's the "JUGGERNAUT BITCH!" movie, then that is absolutely hilarious!! :lol: :lol:

I just got back from seeing it and thought it was a great movie.

Two questions though: Does anyone know if the whole Juggernaut phrase was in the movie before the cartoon parody was created? My friends and I were trying to figure this out. It doesn't seem like they'd insert such an obscure reference, but who knows.

And can someone explain to me (maybe via pm?) the very last clip that aired after the credits? I guess I don't know the background behind it, but the theater erupted after it aired!!

[HeilSvenska]

I can't ruin it for people, so I'll pm you.

[Sir_GT]

Admittedly I didn't stick around for the after credits part either. Could you pm me too HeilSvenska.

As for my opinion: Hey, I'm glad you guys enjoyed the film. That means you didn't feel like you wasted your money. Maybe I expected too much because of the dark phoenix factor, but I know I wasn't alone in my disappointment because my girl was just as disappointed, and so were quite a few people in the theater.

I still stand by what I said though. I really do feel like they ruined what they could have potentially done with the dark phoenix storyline.

[TT]

I can't ruin it for people, so I'll pm you.

Me too, pretty please :)

[Mr.Vercetti]

I saw it on Thursday and all I can say is that it was my fav. Xmen movie. Yeah.. a lot of heroes died.. yeah it was a bit short.. but the story was amazing, the variety of heroes was vast and it was pretty well directed. I have a feeling though that it wont be the last Xmen movie despite the fact that Marvel had announced from the Xmen 1 that there were going to be only 2 sequels. Do you also have this feeling guys? :P

[Caplax40]

Did you guys catch Stan Lee's cameo?

[TeflonTron]

How can a kid with the power to suppress a Mutant Gene do anything to Juggernaught? He isn't a Mutant.

[Sir_GT]

How can a kid with the power to suppress a Mutant Gene do anything to Juggernaught? He isn't a Mutant.

Nobody knows that except people who have read the comic books...

[TeflonTron]

How can a kid with the power to suppress a Mutant Gene do anything to Juggernaught? He isn't a Mutant.

Nobody knows that except people who have read the comic books...

True. I haven't even seen a single minute of ANY of the X-Men films, and probably won't.

Juggernaught is an aweome character, and possibly my third favourite, behind Deadpool and Gambit.

[T-Bird]

I just saw the movie tonight and I thought it was very good. yeah it sucked that both the professor and Cyclops died before the battle even begun. It was somewhat suprising that kitty was such a big character in this one and what Rogue did? oh and btw where was Nightcrawler...

[Zot09]

I have a feeling though that it wont be the last Xmen movie despite the fact that Marvel had announced from the Xmen 1 that there were going to be only 2 sequels. Do you also have this feeling guys? :P

This is what I thought as well when I left the theater. The ending(both the Charles and Magneto part) left so much open for a sequal, that I think there has to be another.

[HeilSvenska]

where was Nightcrawler...

The official game's suppose to explane why he isn't there.

[T-Bird]

soo what was the scene after the credits if I knew there was one I would have stayed.

[nthfinity]

^^^^^^^
PM sent

and by far, this is the best Marvel to movie rendition BY FAR!!!!

i highly recomend the movie, and i will see it again at the cinima :)

[T-Bird]

oh I will be seeing it again aswell probably at the drive in this time though with over the hedge sometime this week.

[HeilSvenska]

^^^ You guys still have drive-in movies?!?!?!!!! They've gone extinct where I live, The OC™

[nthfinity]

^^^ You guys still have drive-in movies?!?!?!!!! They've gone extinct where I live, The OC™

New York ?? ;)

there are several Drive In's around here... AM radio, misnitches!

[HeilSvenska]

The OC™, California. Everyone knows where that is...from Fox

[T-Bird]

hell yeah they are still all over the midwest.

[antonioledesma]

shit!! there was a scene after the credits???? :|
damn, I left the first minute after the movie ended.

then I'll have to go another time :mrgreen:

I liked it, even the surprise scenes (you know, some deadtoll), but I don't know if the dark phoenix saga had the same surprises :|

[Sir_GT]

A newspaper in Hong Kong called the film cheesy... same thing I said... maybe it's an asian thing. :|

[HeilSvenska]

Eh, not really. It's all about personal taste. I find nearly all asian things cheesy, movies, books, cartoons, tv shows, music, etc... No offense?

[gottacatchup]

^^^Yeah its supposed to hint at xavier coming back in another body. iF you remember the one scene where he was teaching a class and talking about implanting another person's conscious into some other body, it basically tells you xavier used that process to come back.

Over all i thought it was a good movie and i was hooked, start to finish. My only problem with the movie comes from the lack of character developement with archangle and the mutant-suppressing kid. I feel like the director wanted to do much more with these characters but had to cut the scenes out because of time.

[DeMoN]

wat? just saw the ending and nothing after letters... goddamn lol!

Nice movie, I liked it.

[Zot09]

^^^ You guys still have drive-in movies?!?!?!!!! They've gone extinct where I live, The OC™

Actually my friends have been telling me that there is a drive-in around the Verizon Amphitheater, which is around the Spectrum.

[Sir_GT]

Eh, not really. It's all about personal taste. I find nearly all asian things cheesy, movies, books, cartoons, tv shows, music, etc... No offense?

None taken. I was speaking in general terms anyway.

I know that a majority of people in Asia, especially those in the developing nations such as Malaysia, Korea, Philippines, and China have been leaning towards more and more Asian-sourced media, such as J-Pop (Japanese pop culture), K-pop (Korean pop culture), and Taiwanese pop. Most of the opinions I hear seem to cite that Hollywood films in general have become a little too predictable, especially with regards to the scripts, and the film sequences.

This doesn't mean that excellent Hollywood films are ignored though (LoTR, films by Steven Speilberg, etc.), it's just that traditional Hollywood action films no longer seem to "wow" Asian audiences like they used to.

Personally, I think it has a lot to do with Hong Kong cinema. After two decades of supercharged Jackie Chan-type films (There's a huge difference between his Hollywood work, and his Hong Kong work), most Asian movie goers have become rather spoilt in the action genre, thus the less-than-flattering reviews regarding X-men 3.

[nthfinity]

well, no offence, but Crouching tiger SUCKED big time ;)

i love John Woo movies of old (he's not so great anymore) but the whole anti- gravity thing is just toooo old, and looks too fake.

I wouldn't actually say they are spoiled with the best action movies... rather, they are hit with teh same shit every time... not unlike hollywood.

IN the words of Bruce "dont call me ash" Campbell, nearly all movies today in Hollywood, Europe, and the Asian markets are what used to be concidered B-movies. Not an original thought in most of em ;)

oh, and the only good Spielberg film to come out in the last 15 years or so was Munich ;)

[dutchmasterflex]

This is what they did:

They made it into a some love drama hollywood bullshit movie..

I also don't like how they made it a trilogy..

[taygunho]

damn I didn't knoa about scene after credits. Can somone pm what hapenned.
I went to theater with big hopes but I didn't like the movie too much. X3 is good movie but not ass good as x1 and x2. Visual effects were better than x1-2 but story of first two films was better. I am a big fan of BEAST and I think Kelsey Grammer acted him very very good. I think Brian Singer should direct this movie not Brett Ratner. Magneto and wolverine will have their own movies but I don't want that. I want X-Men 4 but after most of heroes died it will not happen. I want to see they are fighting with sentinels.
I read someone asked why there is not gambit. I found this trivia in IMDb:
"Josh Holloway was offered the role of Gambit, but turned it down because the character was too similar to his character on "Lost" (2004). As a result, the character was never added to the film since this would have been a special cameo put in later had Josh decided to sign on."
Overall I give 6/10 to this movie.

[nthfinity]

or...

the cure is just temporary.... in the same way that leech only affects mutant's powers within a cirtain range... perhaps the "antibody" is just a temporary affect... so then we get Rogue, and Mystique (and all those other useless mutants) getting thier abilities back once again.

you are reading too much into "who's body" xavier went into... some useless invalid... nearly an anasafalic (sp?)

how about magneto taking Asteroid X down himself.... the Goldengate bridge seems to be within the limits of Magneto... I think it was pretty entertaining ;)

[HeilSvenska]

Oh well. There isn't a movie that doesn't have critics.

[Sir_GT]

well, no offence, but Crouching tiger SUCKED big time ;)

With all due respect, it was the American audiences that hyped that film up. Nobody really liked it in Asia BEFORE it became a Hollywood it. After it made a killing at the US box office, all of a sudden, all these ass-licking reviews started popping up all over Asia. Cook the rice if the stove is hot I guess.


i love John Woo movies of old (he's not so great anymore) but the whole anti- gravity thing is just toooo old, and looks too fake.


Agreed, however it can be made to work. House of flying daggers had excellent cinematography for example. X-Men isn't exactly the epitome of realistic flying either. However, neither are 90% of Hong Kong floaty films.


I wouldn't actually say they are spoiled with the best action movies... rather, they are hit with teh same shit every time... not unlike hollywood.


I would have to disagree here. Unlike the US, film distribution isn't an issue in Asia. Asian films struggle to find cinemas in the majority of the US. It's not like they launched Ghost in the Shell or Princess Mononoke or Jackie Chan's Police Story at Maan's Chinese theatre and the IMAX theatre's around America. However, the opposite is true on these shores. US films do not have distribution problems here, and everyone gets to see them. However, neither do Asian films since they're made here.


IN the words of Bruce "dont call me ash" Campbell, nearly all movies today in Hollywood, Europe, and the Asian markets are what used to be concidered B-movies. Not an original thought in most of em ;)


Unfortunately, I have to agree. Gone are the really good thinking films with low budgets and timeless scripts.


oh, and the only good Spielberg film to come out in the last 15 years or so was Munich ;)

That wasn't an action film. :|

[nthfinity]

well, no offence, but Crouching tiger SUCKED big time ;)

With all due respect, it was the American audiences that hyped that film up. Nobody really liked it in Asia BEFORE it became a Hollywood it. After it made a killing at the US box office, all of a sudden, all these ass-licking reviews started popping up all over Asia. Cook the rice if the stove is hot I guess.


i love John Woo movies of old (he's not so great anymore) but the whole anti- gravity thing is just toooo old, and looks too fake.


Agreed, however it can be made to work. House of flying daggers had excellent cinematography for example. X-Men isn't exactly the epitome of realistic flying either. However, neither are 90% of Hong Kong floaty films.


I wouldn't actually say they are spoiled with the best action movies... rather, they are hit with teh same shit every time... not unlike hollywood.


I would have to disagree here. Unlike the US, film distribution isn't an issue in Asia. Asian films struggle to find cinemas in the majority of the US. It's not like they launched Ghost in the Shell or Princess Mononoke or Jackie Chan's Police Story at Maan's Chinese theatre and the IMAX theatre's around America. However, the opposite is true on these shores. US films do not have distribution problems here, and everyone gets to see them. However, neither do Asian films since they're made here.


IN the words of Bruce "dont call me ash" Campbell, nearly all movies today in Hollywood, Europe, and the Asian markets are what used to be concidered B-movies. Not an original thought in most of em ;)


Unfortunately, I have to agree. Gone are the really good thinking films with low budgets and timeless scripts.


oh, and the only good Spielberg film to come out in the last 15 years or so was Munich ;)

That wasn't an action film. :|
I think we agree on a lot then, except, I enjoy X3 and you didnt :P

hmm.... the last good Spielberg Action film that was good... did he do Saving Private Ryan? its hard for me to concider action/war movies the same... i'd think of it more of a drama.

so that said, then probobly Indiana Jones 3 was the last good Spielberg action film.

are you a Jackie Chan fan? my favorite of his movies is Georgous ;)

[Garretts_turbo]

the movie wasnt too bad, although i do have a few issues haha
- colossus and kitty are together in the comics, have been for a long time. why focus on some imagined fuex-romance between bobby and kitty just to make rogue jealous? pointless. she would have gotten the cure anyway.
- the movie was basically wolverine and storm fest, with all the other characters getting 2 or 3 scenes each. would have loved to see colossus and beast kick some more ass!!
- multiple man and juggernaut also need some more scenes..although juggernauts not a mutant haha...meh.

also, ive heard through the grapvine that everyone except rebecca romijn is still under contract for other films. anyone able to confirm or deny that?

[evoWalo]

A lot of the inconsistencies with the comics is attributed to it being in the main Marvel Universe timeline. Like how Jean Grey's Dark Phoenix powers are another part of her mind instead of a space dwelling alien that infested her while in space. Juggernaut's "BITCH" dialogue with Kitty Pryde has it's roots in a fan-edited flick on Juggernaut calling all the girls "bitch". In Ultimate X-men Juggernaut's power is a mutant power instead of something from a stone.

THe X-Men movies tries to keep the fantasy part to a minimum so as to not confuse and turn off people who're watching the movie. The concepts of mutants is already a big thing and to pour in the gems of the Juggernaut, Jean Grey's possessive alien and more details would only make the movie more for the fan than average folk.

I really like the Dark Phoenix scenes of Prof X & Dark Phoenix vs Wolverine. It made me cry. :(

[yg60m]

Saw it yesterday and I found it awesome, like the previous movies :D There were some surprises like Xavier's death, I didn't expect it but, as it's science-fiction, they could find a way to reintroduce him :wink:
I find that it's very close to the comics spirit and I really lived what I read some years ago with the black Phoenix and Magneto :good:
Now doubt I will buy the DVD once for sale like the previous one, it's a classic for me. :D

[DeMoN]

Gotta see it again to see the after-credits scene.

[Minacious]

Gotta see it again to see the after-credits scene.

No you don't. I can tell you in one short sentence what happened.

[yg60m]

Gotta see it again to see the after-credits scene.

No you don't. I can tell you in one short sentence what happened.

I am curious about that too mate :wink: