Bugatti Veyron Taking off full throttle !

[Mopsdrops]

http://www.dpccars.com/car-movies/05-23-06pageBugattiVeyrontakeoff.htm
OMFG :shock: that IS a rocket :P

[RAMMIUS]

:shock: very impressive

[Daggernite]

:shock:
That looks faster than I thought I would

[stmoritzer]

:shock: OMFG, that's veeerrry fast :crazyeyes:

[RF1]

amazing!!
:shocked!:

very fast

[bmwmpower]

WTF is that, its real ? cos its looks faster then F1

[gis]

Jesus christ that was a lot faster than i thought it would actually be.we need some speedo shots of this car :D

[davide]

uhm, is that the real thing? Beacuse that's wasn't fast, that was f-ing fast !!
jesus....

[thepest]

:shock: Holy horsepower that is faster than F1, it almost looks fake or something!!! damn

[TopGearNL]

It must have an even better traction control system then the Renault F1, Holy sh*t that is - fast - :shock:

[SPEEDKILLAR]

Not bad.

[cooperluke]

pretty impressive....

It must have an even better traction control system then the Renault F1, Holy sh*t that is - fast -


It has 4wd! :wink:

[dutchmasterflex]

Holy shit.

That thing isnt even a car anymore.. it resembles a mag-lev train taking off or somethin..


absolutely nuts.. 4 tons from 0 to 60 in 2 seconds.. fuckin ridiculous..

[cooperluke]

Wonder if anyone ever did a drag race of it against race cars!!?? :D

[mazmazmaz1]

OMG thats crazy.

[Kiran]

that's indeed crazy, it actually looks a bit fake to be honest.

I could be wrong, but just consider the option.

[TNT]

:faint: :faint: :shocked!: insane

[saxo670122]

very fast
:shock: :shock: :shock:

[dutchmasterflex]

king of supercars that go...in a straight line!

What was this cars time on the 'Ring? Did it even complete a whole lap with out overheating and shutting down?

[fsandys]

Holy shit.

That thing isnt even a car anymore.. it resembles a mag-lev train taking off or somethin..


absolutely nuts.. 4 tons from 0 to 60 in 2 seconds.. fuckin ridiculous..

Thought it was 2.5 ? and has this been officially tested yet?

Would that be faster than F1 and a bike?

[yg60m]

:shock: OMG !! I didn't think it was THAT fast :D Is there a way to save this video ??? This is a keeper :wink: Thanks Mopsdrops :mrgreen:

[htfaber]

Out of this world!

Man SWT, your avatar is wicked! Jordan is a sweetie!

[McLaren4eVa]

That is fucking quick oh and pardon me for asking but wats with all the asses in display pictures?

[yg60m]

king of supercars that go...in a straight line!

What was this cars time on the 'Ring? Did it even complete a whole lap with out overheating and shutting down?

lol, I think you got the point here :wink: I am not sure it achieves to finish a flying lap on the Nurb. without overheating ... but I love it anyway and this video .... Amazing, I wonder if it really is at normal speed not fast forward :shock:

[Svensson]

That car is just amazingly fast!! It almost seems like the vid's been speeded up :shock:

That is fucking quick oh and pardon me for asking but wats with all the asses in display pictures?

I also didn't know until this morning, but today is JW's Butt Day! :D

http://www.motorworld.net/forum/showthread.php?t=39276
http://www.motorworld.net/forum/showthread.php?t=39646

[martin100]

I´ve already seen a presentation vid with an acceleration at the end and hope that this is another one. DL now! Cant get enough of this engineering marvel :mrgreen:

[dutchmasterflex]

king of supercars that go...in a straight line!

What was this cars time on the 'Ring? Did it even complete a whole lap with out overheating and shutting down?

the final production Veyron has not been to the Ring.....but the priority of this car is not to attend track day events and compete in AutoX.

it is to reign as THE premium car in the world, bar none....and that's exactly what it is doing these days.

No matter what you say, its still a performance car with the figures they wanted this car to do.

I do get the idea of this car.. It's just that if it can't do one single lap of the 'Ring with out melting its brakes or overheating then whats the point if they spent so much money trying to make this car reliable..


If you had this car you would want to drive it like a complete mad man (like on a track) and not pussy footing around town..

[Vansquish]

Damn...that's pretty freakin' impressive...now if Bugatti could only have done it in a car that didn't weigh so damned much...

[RAMMIUS]

it can beat an F1 car off the line


in the best scenario , it`s lucky if can hold up with the F1 up to 100km/h and then it`s bye bye Veyron :mrgreen:

[Vansquish]

^^ and then about 150km/h after that point, the Veyron would start catching up again...depending on the amount of wing that the F1 car was running.

[RAMMIUS]

^^^yup aero settings , gear ratio and so on , but you can go 400+ km/h in an F1 car , without the rear wing :mrgreen: , keeping the front spoiler and the diffuser and having much more downforce then Veyron has at any given speed :mrgreen:

And I wouldn`t be so sure that the Veyron will ever catch up :wink:

[SPEED_DEMON82]

Holy smokes!!!

[antonioledesma]

the car is fucking fast... or the first 2 seconds the video was fast-forwarded :mrgreen:

[momodels]

That´s deadly fast :shock: :twisted:

[Z3uS]

Yeah thats fast! :shock:

[pitfield]

the biggest load of shit ever. Soud?

[RC45]

it can beat an F1 car off the line


in the best scenario , it`s lucky if can hold up with the F1 up to 100km/h and then it`s bye bye Veyron :mrgreen:

not true...the Veyron has a higher top speed than an F1 car. bye bye F1! :mrgreen:

Only because of gearing - if the F1 car was geared NOT for a track it would be able to outgun the Vagrant.

The same is true for Top Fuel dragsters that get taken to the Salt Lakes.. :)

[nthfinity]

^^^^^^
only part of the story, RC

the F1 car has termendous aerodynamic downforce, and even under extreme low DF conditions, 400 kph is still incredibly difficult to reach... however, and F1 engine + a slippery shape would equate to much more then 400 kph.

i believe BAR set up thier V10 car to hit 400 at bonaville last fall

[RC45]

Well - the aero part of the equation goes without saying - its the gearing that is the killer ;)

And come to think of it, for 1 million dollars that little drag start is not impressive at all.

What are the rest of the specs of this over weight over priced lump of doodoo?

0-60
0-100
0-150
0-200
0-250
1/4 mile
1 mile

It is about as useful as a diamond encrusted rolex - in otherwords pointless - :)

[Schwalbe]

This is incredibly fast, but some of us already knew this is the king of the supercars, this is just cool to see another proof. http://www.rs6.com/smilies/nutchy.gif

[jorge]

almost unbelievable :o

[bultaco_metralla]

awesome!!! wtf!!!! no wordssss

OMG

[RAMMIUS]

i believe BAR set up thier V10 car to hit 400 at bonaville last fall



hehe, Mojave airport not Bonneville :wink:

how about 413 km/h :mrgreen:

http://www.mojaveweblog.com/pages/051110-1.htm

And Ronin posted the video too :P


What are the rest of the specs of this over weight over priced lump of doodoo?

0-60
0-100
0-150
0-200
0-250
1/4 mile
1 mile



VW numbers (km/h) 0-100 2.5sec
0-200 7.3
0-300 16.7

0-250 mph 55.6

[bmwmpower]

i believe BAR set up thier V10 car to hit 400 at bonaville last fall



hehe, Mojave airport not Bonneville :wink:

how about 413 km/h :mrgreen:

http://www.mojaveweblog.com/pages/051110-1.htm

And Ronin posted the video too :P


What are the rest of the specs of this over weight over priced lump of doodoo?

0-60
0-100
0-150
0-200
0-250
1/4 mile
1 mile



VW numbers (km/h) 0-100 2.5sec
0-160 7.3
0-300 16.7

0-250 mph 55.6

so 0-300 16.7 and from 100-160 in 4.8 s ? thats 0-200 in 7,3

[RAMMIUS]

^^ yup , my mistake :oops:

0-200 in 7.3 s :)

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[TNT]

Lola-Ford Cosworth Champ Car
Speed at 1 mile: 203.3 mph — 3rd
Time to 1 mile: 24.2 sec — 1st



Gentilozzi is worried that his Lola isn't very aerodynamic, that its exposed wheels and large wings, together with the downforce-producing underbody, will create a car that hits an aerodynamic brick wall that other sleeker cars will slice through and reach a higher top speed in the mile. He's right, that happens. But no car in this test gets through the mile as quickly as the DHL-sponsored Lola, whose suspension and gearing are tailored for the Portland race the following weekend.

Following a couple of disappointing runs in which ex-Formula 1 driver Timo Glock of Germany says he can actually feel the drag slowing the car down, the DHL Lola is prepped to go out again, this time with the Ford Cosworth engine now having "Power 2 Pass" engaged, which gives the 2.65-liter turbo V-8 an extra 300 revs (to 12,300) and a half psi of additional boost, which bumps the output to 800 bhp. The power increase, together with a rear wing reduced to just one small element, the brake cooling ducts taped off and the optional stickier Bridgestone slicks, makes for a much better car in the mile. Following some wild tire-warming burnouts, the Lola blisters through the mile in 24.2 sec., 1.4 sec. ahead of the next quickest car, the Hennessey Viper. That's a long distance at 203.3 mph.

Two other amazing stats: The Champ Car hits 150 mph in only 8.6 sec., and averages nearly 150 mph for the whole mile. If another car hits the starting line already at that speed and keeps it there, the Champ Car, from a standing start, will catch it by the end of the mile! Also, Rocketsports' own data show that when Glock lets off the throttle after the run, the Lola experiences nearly 1g of deceleration, close to the force a typical production car reaches in panic braking. Just imagine what a Champ Car could do given better aero....

that is with out changing the settings on the car.

[golfiste]

it is fake ,look carefully :|

[TNT]

^^^ and how do you figure that?

[RC45]

So what is the 1/4 mile time for the car? And not some calculated claim - a measurment taken by rolling the car up to a set of timing lights and hitting the go-pedal.

0-100km in 3s, 0-200km in 8s is really not that impressive for a car specifically built to accelerate and run top speed.

Remember, other cars costing way less and build to go fast, accelerate stop and turn are right behind this over price hunk of junk :)

Think about it - its 4wd, purpose built to accelerate and costs a million bucks - shouldn't it somehow be much much quicker?

;)

I mean it can't even hang with a frealing Lotus around corners :)

[nthfinity]

this months Automobile Magazine did the worst review i have ever read EVER... and it happened to be of the Bugatti Veyron "coast to coast" if you call it that... it was from one side of Florida to teh other... whoopty doooo.

no testing of accelleration potential, no hard acclleration by the Jurnalist, no testing its turning capabilities, and totally shitty pictures (boo to Tom Salt)

the reason I think it was soooooo terrible? Affermitive action... a woman was the reviewer.

not even worth the read, or looking at pictures.

oh, and when they were thinking of putting down some numbers for the Veyron... a computer glitch caused the car not to do a hard launch, not unlike the video in question...

[RC45]

the point of the Veyron is to defy comparison to anything, which is something it does VERY succesfully.

No it doesn't.

It has t e compared very carefully to specific performance envelopes and nothing else.

It fast in a straight line - period.

It has no other grounds for comparison to anything.

There are many cars that are more luxurious.

There are MANY cars that are more exclusive.

And other than "new price there are MANY cars that are more expensive.

It only does one thing well, and that is go in a straight line from 0-400kmh - and even that takes uber special prep to repeat back to back.

ALL HAIL the king of the supercars! :mrgreen:

it can beat an F1 car off the line......or a motorcycle........amazing.

oh, dont even bring a F1 car into this pic as they arent built for taking off not to mention they dont have traction control, not to mention with 4 turbo's it better fucking be fast off the line.

its still a POS TURD!! :twisted: :P
Oh - and for this opinion Ronin is my hero... **swoon** **blush** **flutter eyelids** ;) :P

[taygunho]

:shocked!: :shocked!: This is Fast. Veyron is not accelerating from 0 to 100km/h it starts at 100 km/h :shocked!: :shocked!:

[RC45]

^^^nothing you said was relevant to what i was saying OR went against what i was saying. please re-read my post and try again. thank you. :)

Everything I said was relevant.

The Bugnasty Vagrant is only good at going in a straight line - and even then it is debatable whether performance is repeatable.

Besides which, with 8l of 16 cylinder quad turbo and a million dollar price tag you would hope it was faster in a straight line than all the other 1000hp street cars out there. Which it barely is. It is not twice as fast but rather a few 10ths of a seconds faster.

Period.

The car is not the "car of all time" you make it out to be.

[caneswell]

Impressive video. It will be extremely quick off the line with all that traction and torque and enough power. Probably faster than an F1 car as they really struggle with traction (not enough weight, very stiff suspension so not much weight transfer and two wheel drive)

But once traction is gained the F1 car would anihilate it, 1230bhp/tonne to ~500bhp/tonne = Byby Veyron and thats with their current weedy 2.4 litre V8s with no turbo!!.

Then as the speed climbed the veyron would start to gain and would reach a faster top speed. i doubt you could make an F1 car much more aerodynamic than a veyron due to its open wheels and the veyron has more power.

Would be a good race to watch

[JoeHahn]

^^^nothing you said was relevant to what i was saying OR went against what i was saying. please re-read my post and try again. thank you. :)

Everything I said was relevant.

The Bugnasty Vagrant is only good at going in a straight line - and even then it is debatable whether performance is repeatable.

Besides which, with 8l of 16 cylinder quad turbo and a million dollar price tag you would hope it was faster in a straight line than all the other 1000hp street cars out there. Which it barely is. It is not twice as fast but rather a few 10ths of a seconds faster.

Period.

The car is not the "car of all time" you make it out to be.

Isnt that a similar argument people make on American sports cars, more generally the Z06? Look where that got them. I dont think this car has been tested on any track, officially or unofficially. Kinda useless debating about it.

[saadie]

^^ it was tested on some track ....

the driver lost it while braking at a bend ... tried to recover by giving it traction ... but guess what .... the wheels started spinning ....
this car is just a heap of shit .... strait line speed dosnt mean its the king of the world ... CCX is the king .... face it .... it can do alot more then just going fast in a straitline ..

[nthfinity]

in reference to the two above posts (who brought up american cars here anyway?)

the C6 Z06 has been tested at tracks like the Nurburgring (king of all tracks) Spa, Road America, Road Atlanta, Mid Ohio, Gingerman Raceway, Gratton, Waterford Hills, Sebring International Circuit, Leguna Seca, Watkins Geln, Top Gear track, and a host of other tracks where guss what...?

It does AMAZING!

We all know of issues, and limitations on the CGT Press cars after a few accidents/speeding tickets etc.... and that the press car even had more wallowy suspension then the production car...

My guess is the Veyron isn't any different...

the most recent (WORST EVER in Automobile) review had a cumputer glitch kill the proper launch... of course, once moving, it is pretty much the fastest thing "alive" from WoltsVagon :P

[TNT]

until there are some offical times its junk. a major car mag needs to run it or a video at a drag strip. I am with RC45 on this one.

[RC45]

Isnt that a similar argument people make on American sports cars, more generally the Z06? Look where that got them. I dont think this car has been tested on any track, officially or unofficially. Kinda useless debating about it.
WTF?

How did you come to this conclusion?

[nthfinity]

until there are some offical times its junk. a major car mag needs to run it or a video at a drag strip. I am with RC45 on this one.

I'm not with RC here :wink:
I think the Veyron is one of the most spectacular cars made... easily top 10

We have magazine after magazine, and even Komotar telling us how uber spectacular the car is... the fastest they have ever driven (accelleration wise) and suprisingly nimble for its weight.

We (some of us) already know how fast it is at the king of all tracks... and that definately wasn't impressive... I would like to see more footage, and higher quality to the one with the elise chasing the Veyron around a track... obviously, the owner isn't quite so experienced with track work... but give him time, espeicially if he had some fun

[TeflonTron]

I'll chime in, as I personaly know two people who have driven one. They both say that it accelerates unlike anything they have ever driven before. It can reach crazy speeds stoplight to stoplight and be completely controlled whilst doing it. They also said that the brakes snap your neck they are so good.

What else is there to say?


Well, I don't particularly like it, but that's besides the point as I can accept what it is capable of doing: laying waste to any production car out there and probably 99% of tuner cars that aren't running on race fuel and slicks.

[RC45]

Well, I don't particularly like it, but that's besides the point as I can accept what it is capable of doing: laying waste to any production car out there and probably 99% of tuner cars that aren't running on race fuel and slicks.

In a straight line

Only.

This is what every one used as a reason to hate on ALL US high-hp cars ;)

Just an observation.

And again - for 1 million bucks you would hope it could do something well ;)

[JoeHahn]

Isnt that a similar argument people make on American sports cars, more generally the Z06? Look where that got them. I dont think this car has been tested on any track, officially or unofficially. Kinda useless debating about it.
WTF?

How did you come to this conclusion?

Well when it comes down to it, alot of people before the Z06 came out reckoned Corvettes handled like shit, alot of people still think that. You, valiantly defend that. Now you are on the other side of the fence accusing a car you think cant handle - when you really dont know how it handles.


In a straight line

Only.

This is what every one used as a reason to hate on ALL US high-hp cars Wink

Just an observation.

And again - for 1 million bucks you would hope it could do something well

There - you just helped me with my cause.

[TeflonTron]

RC45: care to name a tuner car, or other road car, that can match, yet alone excede the Veyron's performance? Street tires, regular gas (no 100+ Octane crap) and no mechanical changes between a topspeed and acceleration run and then a track run. Then, name one car company that has the heritage or prestige that Bugatti does.

[TNT]

^^^ Saleen S7 twin turbo, Nismo Skyline GT-R Z-tune.

both with as much if not better heritage.


Saleen S7 TT

C/D TEST RESULTS
ACCELERATION: Seconds
Zero to 30 mph: 1.5
40 mph: 2.2
50 mph: 2.9
60 mph: 3.4
70 mph: 3.9
80 mph: 4.7
90 mph: 5.4
100 mph: 6.2
110 mph: 7.0
120 mph: 8.4
130 mph: 9.5
140 mph: 10.9
150 mph: 13.6
160 mph: 15.6
Street start, 5–60 mph: 3.5
Top-gear acceleration, 30–50 mph: 5.7
50–70 mph: 5.4
Standing ¼-mile: 10.9 sec @ 140 mph
Top speed (drag limited, mfr’s claim): 248 mph

Z-tune is unoffically has a 10.06 0-400m time.

[spanky]

Cool video! I havent seen a heap of the veyron on the net yet.

Thanks MopsDrops 8)

[RC45]

Isnt that a similar argument people make on American sports cars, more generally the Z06? Look where that got them. I dont think this car has been tested on any track, officially or unofficially. Kinda useless debating about it.
WTF?

How did you come to this conclusion?

Well when it comes down to it, alot of people before the Z06 came out reckoned Corvettes handled like shit, alot of people still think that. You, valiantly defend that. Now you are on the other side of the fence accusing a car you think cant handle - when you really dont know how it handles.

Uhm - no people simply SAY the Corvette cannot handle - the truth is the 2001 and newer Corvette Z06 DOES handle very well, as shown by many many road tests, races and weekend warriors - this is not heresay or rumour it is fact - measures and proven many times over.

No debate can be endtered into this at all . It is irrefutable, just as the performance of the GT3 and 360CS is irrefutable.

People have just chosen to NOT believe the many published results.

So - now on to the Bugnasty Vagrant - many testers have stated the car is heavy and not nimble - this we know is a fact - not rumour. Certain people have also had some inside witnesses tell them the car is not a great handler.

The fact that there is no track handling laptime available is obviously because it is not a great handling car.

If the million dollar car was a great handler - magazines would have shown this to be true by now.

Period.

VW/Bugnasty/Audi would already have a Nurburgring time published and be rubbing it in the faces of other supercars if it was any good ;)



In a straight line

Only.

This is what every one used as a reason to hate on ALL US high-hp cars Wink

Just an observation.

And again - for 1 million bucks you would hope it could do something well

There - you just helped me with my cause.

How have I helped your cause. The only data available shows the Vagrant is only straightline toy.

However - there is much data available to show the 2001 newer Z06, GT3, 360CS, Ford GT, GT2, P911TT, Viper GTS/ACR, CGT etc are great handling cars. No speculation needed - these are published and PROVEN facts.

The Bugnasty is just an expensive freeway cruiser.

[TeflonTron]

^^^ Saleen S7 twin turbo, Nismo Skyline GT-R Z-tune.

both with as much if not better heritage.

You are kidding me, right? The Nismo cannot hold a candle in terms of performance, and who the hell are Nissan or Saleen when it comes to heritage or prestige? LMFAO.

[RC45]

^^^ Saleen S7 twin turbo, Nismo Skyline GT-R Z-tune.

both with as much if not better heritage.

You are kidding me, right? The Nismo cannot hold a candle in terms of performance, and who the hell are Nissan or Saleen when it comes to heritage or prestige? LMFAO.

SO you admit the Vagrant is simply about wealth and oppulance - basicly something to prove your wealth - nothing more.

Considering Ralph Lauren is getting one that shows it's simply an expensive showpiece for the super rich - and impresses the gullible ;)

[TNT]

^^^ Saleen S7 twin turbo, Nismo Skyline GT-R Z-tune.

both with as much if not better heritage.

You are kidding me, right? The Nismo cannot hold a candle in terms of performance, and who the hell are Nissan or Saleen when it comes to heritage or prestige? LMFAO.

have you heard of racing heritage............damn dude read up. i didn't say prestige, even though a bugatti isn't that high in my book.

[TeflonTron]

^^^ Saleen S7 twin turbo, Nismo Skyline GT-R Z-tune.

both with as much if not better heritage.

You are kidding me, right? The Nismo cannot hold a candle in terms of performance, and who the hell are Nissan or Saleen when it comes to heritage or prestige? LMFAO.

have you heard of racing heritage............damn dude read up. i didn't say prestige, even though a bugatti isn't that high in my book.

Bugatti has a better racing heritage than either Saleen or Nissan, so I don't need to read anything. Bugatti is one of the uppermost cars when it comes to history, heritage and prestige. Period.

[JoeHahn]

Isnt that a similar argument people make on American sports cars, more generally the Z06? Look where that got them. I dont think this car has been tested on any track, officially or unofficially. Kinda useless debating about it.
WTF?

How did you come to this conclusion?

Well when it comes down to it, alot of people before the Z06 came out reckoned Corvettes handled like shit, alot of people still think that. You, valiantly defend that. Now you are on the other side of the fence accusing a car you think cant handle - when you really dont know how it handles.

Uhm - no people simply SAY the Corvette cannot handle - the truth is the 2001 and newer Corvette Z06 DOES handle very well, as shown by many many road tests, races and weekend warriors - this is not heresay or rumour it is fact - measures and proven many times over.

No debate can be endtered into this at all . It is irrefutable, just as the performance of the GT3 and 360CS is irrefutable.

People have just chosen to NOT believe the many published results.

So - now on to the Bugnasty Vagrant - many testers have stated the car is heavy and not nimble - this we know is a fact - not rumour. Certain people have also had some inside witnesses tell them the car is not a great handler.

The fact that there is no track handling laptime available is obviously because it is not a great handling car.

If the million dollar car was a great handler - magazines would have shown this to be true by now.

Period.

VW/Bugnasty/Audi would already have a Nurburgring time published and be rubbing it in the faces of other supercars if it was any good ;)



In a straight line

Only.

This is what every one used as a reason to hate on ALL US high-hp cars Wink

Just an observation.

And again - for 1 million bucks you would hope it could do something well

There - you just helped me with my cause.

How have I helped your cause. The only data available shows the Vagrant is only straightline toy.

However - there is much data available to show the 2001 newer Z06, GT3, 360CS, Ford GT, GT2, P911TT, Viper GTS/ACR, CGT etc are great handling cars. No speculation needed - these are published and PROVEN facts.

The Bugnasty is just an expensive freeway cruiser.

I'm aware of the performance of the C6 Z, GT3 RS and CS but I cant get one thing. I know how alot of people attack Ferrari because it hasnt proven its Enzo on the Nurburgring, does that make it substandard? It may not be as fast as say a Carrera GT but thats nothing to be ashamed of. Have you thought that maybe Bugatti just doesnt want its car compared to the Carrera GT, Zonda F etc and not participating at the Nurburgring is a reason for that? kind of like the Enzo?

I'd also like to see an article saying the Veyron is "not nimble". We all know the car is heavy but I'm pretty sure I've only seen magazines saying the opposite. Something along the lines of it hiding and not showing its weight its that good a handling car.

[JoeHahn]

I brought up the vette to prove a point, nothing else.

[nthfinity]

I brought up the vette to prove a point, nothing else.

It doesn't actually look that way.... as you didn't prove much of anything. I wondered the samet hing everso did.

unlike him, however, I will provide you with facts ;)

Oh, Bugati did test thier car at various tracks... we just "don't" know thier lap times which they recorded there ;) hehe... BTW, those lap times we dont know about weren't that impressive.

that said, those lap times we dont know about were some months before it was "officially" released... some things could have, or may have changed.

I do wonder if the Veyron can't actually do a proper 0-xxx mph launch, and has to have a rolling start?

[JoeHahn]

Sorry I should have said: Trying to get a point across.

and you have provided what facts for me....?

Saying Bugatti tested their cars on some tracks. You dont know their times but they werent impressive and werent made in a production model?

There was a rumour floating around that Bugatti said they could easily get into the 7:20's at the ring, I'm guessing this has as much of a foundation as your information?

Looks like that makes two of us :wink:

[bmwmpower]

i think World is now turningaround corvette, in every topic is z06

[TT]

:morning: :lock:

Totally went of track, again steered toward the same old direction...