Bikes In New GT4??????

[McLaren4eVa]

As many of you know this years E3 has kicked off and i just wanted to clear up one thing, The next GT, after seeing some of the pictures there are a couple of pictures with motorcycles in. Does anyone else know about this, I figure it could be tru because polyphony have done tourist trophy.


http://uk.media.ps3.ign.com/media/713/713809/img_3580847.html

[TNT]

yeah def. that would be sick. bike vs car challenges :drool: that is probly the only thing taht will make me buy a next gen system. :mrgreen:

[DeMoN]

I just saw the >1hour video of the press conference, and yeah, bikes WILL be there for sure. The game creator said so and showed a demo where you chose cars, the bottom part had bikes. The graphics on GT5 look like shiet. Almost the same as GT4. What a waste of time. PGR has better graphics. So dumb. Im still going to buy it, but it is a shame they didnt use the power of PS3 for that game.

[TT]

Did they show already the final version DeMon? it woul be a major mistake to have PS2-like graphic on a major PS3 title.. there are still months of fine tuning afterall

Anyway cool to have both bikes and cars in the same game!

[ZfrkS62]

I just saw the >1hour video of the press conference, and yeah, bikes WILL be there for sure. The game creator said so and showed a demo where you chose cars, the bottom part had bikes. The graphics on GT5 look like shiet. Almost the same as GT4. What a waste of time. PGR has better graphics. So dumb. Im still going to buy it, but it is a shame they didnt use the power of PS3 for that game.

I'd sacrifice graphics for better AI and more competitors. Any chance that all that has been bumped up?

[TeflonTron]

^^ Yeah, given that the PS3 is MONTHS away from release I can't see a GT game (which are one of the biggest selling series ever) not having "WOW" graphics. I just want to hear news of the next GTA game, as San Andreas was ace.

[mindgam3]

I just saw the >1hour video of the press conference, and yeah, bikes WILL be there for sure. The game creator said so and showed a demo where you chose cars, the bottom part had bikes. The graphics on GT5 look like shiet. Almost the same as GT4. What a waste of time. PGR has better graphics. So dumb. Im still going to buy it, but it is a shame they didnt use the power of PS3 for that game.

The E3 demo was just a higher textured GT4

[666fast]

^^ Yeah, given that the PS3 is MONTHS away from release I can't see a GT game (which are one of the biggest selling series ever) not having "WOW" graphics. I just want to hear news of the next GTA game, as San Andreas was ace.

I believe all that has been said on GTA4 is that it would launch on the same day for the Xbox 360 and PS3. It'll also launch the same day as Halo 3 apparently. I think it was said to be released in November, but dont' quote me on that.

[Daggernite]

There are bikes and cars, but can you race them simultaniously? GT5 is basically GT4, but running in high def, this means all the textures will be upgraded and so on. Im sure new cars and tracks will be there. Also I bet better sounds and so on.

[No.1]

^^ Yeah, given that the PS3 is MONTHS away from release I can't see a GT game (which are one of the biggest selling series ever) not having "WOW" graphics. I just want to hear news of the next GTA game, as San Andreas was ace.

I believe all that has been said on GTA4 is that it would launch on the same day for the Xbox 360 and PS3.

http://uk.ps3.ign.com/articles/706/706234p1.html

2007!!!

[McLaren4eVa]

I just saw the >1hour video of the press conference, and yeah, bikes WILL be there for sure. The game creator said so and showed a demo where you chose cars, the bottom part had bikes. The graphics on GT5 look like shiet. Almost the same as GT4. What a waste of time. PGR has better graphics. So dumb. Im still going to buy it, but it is a shame they didnt use the power of PS3 for that game.

Yeah thats i what i thought at first, but then having read an article about it, this is essentially gt4 with a few extras, definately not the final product.

Bikes and cars ey, will be interesting to see that. Will also be a good balance, because bikes will accelaerate faster but cars will turn quicker. Thank you for clarifying this up can't wait till the game is released.

[DeMoN]

I just saw the >1hour video of the press conference, and yeah, bikes WILL be there for sure. The game creator said so and showed a demo where you chose cars, the bottom part had bikes. The graphics on GT5 look like shiet. Almost the same as GT4. What a waste of time. PGR has better graphics. So dumb. Im still going to buy it, but it is a shame they didnt use the power of PS3 for that game.

I'd sacrifice graphics for better AI and more competitors. Any chance that all that has been bumped up?

True that. If they dont get Ferrari/Lambo/Porsche and graphics are as they are right now... the FUKING better get better AI and car damage. Their previous excuse was that they couldnt fit all that info on one DVD. With BluRay they have to. No words about that yet though. I did see the bikes on the video, but when he put on the game, he selected the track and selected DEMO instead of RACE so dont know.

[DeMoN]

Oh another thing, if those are upscaled GT4 graphics, then if they want to release "shortly after PS3 releases" as said on the conference, they have many men working on graphics alone. They said it would come out soon after the PS3 release date. So that means, either they are lieing about the release date and good graphics will come out, or they release as is (which would be dumb IMO... many peeps have not finished the game yet like me, and being first impresion of their ability on the PS3 is a BIG thing).

[nthfinity]

I just saw the >1hour video of the press conference, and yeah, bikes WILL be there for sure. The game creator said so and showed a demo where you chose cars, the bottom part had bikes. The graphics on GT5 look like shiet. Almost the same as GT4. What a waste of time. PGR has better graphics. So dumb. Im still going to buy it, but it is a shame they didnt use the power of PS3 for that game.

I'd sacrifice graphics for better AI and more competitors. Any chance that all that has been bumped up?

True that. If they dont get Ferrari/Lambo/Porsche and graphics are as they are right now... the FUKING better get better AI and car damage. Their previous excuse was that they couldnt fit all that info on one DVD. With BluRay they have to. No words about that yet though. I did see the bikes on the video, but when he put on the game, he selected the track and selected DEMO instead of RACE so dont know.

bullshit they couldn't fit it onto one dvd... a dual layer disc can be read by the PS2, and @ 8 gb..... no game i've ever played took up even 4 gb... not one! but not fitting in "more" because of time/money... that is another story

there are license stipulations that a car cannot be shown broken... so anything more then what PGR has is unlikely IMO

[Minacious]

Just to clarify, no one has seen GT5 pics yet, nor are there any concrete details on it. What has been seen is GT4 (mixed with a little bit of Tourist Trophy) running on the PS3 software in High Def. It will be released on the PS3 as filler until GT5 is released.

[5vz-fe]

Given the constant delay of GT4, I guess we shall expect GT5 in say 2008? LOL Please, remove the 50 different kinds of camera clicks. Just buy the freaking AI from Forza.

[Evo]

Hey guys sorry for the stupid question but when is the new PS3 going to come out and when is GT5 going to be released.. I really hope the same day they release the PS3.. :mrgreen:

[Minacious]

Hey guys sorry for the stupid question but when is the new PS3 going to come out and when is GT5 going to be released.. I really hope the same day they release the PS3.. :mrgreen:

The PS3 is being released in the US, November of this year, not sure about your neck of the woods. GT5 will not be a launch title.

[TT]

The PS3 will be launched worldwide in November apparently. First Japan and 6 days later the rest of the world, that's what I read

[5vz-fe]

The PS3 will be launched worldwide in November apparently. First Japan and 6 days later the rest of the world, that's what I read

Expect a lot of them ending up on Ebay with a remarkable price tag.

[TT]

YOu mean the Japanese one? With the previous consoles it made sense since the delay for western countries was pretty big. Acutally even the delay between Europe and USA, that's why I got an US PS2 at first. But now that the delay is less than a week, I don't really see why somebody would bust 1000+ dollars on an import consoles bought online (and with shipping times and all, it would reach the buyer after the launch in his country).

[DeMoN]

Hey guys sorry for the stupid question but when is the new PS3 going to come out and when is GT5 going to be released.. I really hope the same day they release the PS3.. :mrgreen:

Nov 11th for Japan and 17th for usa

[DeMoN]

there are license stipulations that a car cannot be shown broken... so anything more then what PGR has is unlikely IMO

can you expand more on that? I never heard or read anything about this. So basically, you cant show a smashed up car why?

[nthfinity]

there are license stipulations that a car cannot be shown broken... so anything more then what PGR has is unlikely IMO

can you expand more on that? I never heard or read anything about this. So basically, you cant show a smashed up car why?

I think because of the various companies view on the PR of having smashed up cars... have it look good all the time.

with true racing games, (including nascar games) they show tons of damage, but they dont buy the licence from Ford/GM/Toyota/DXC specifically... but rather the licence is obtained from NASCAR, and the various teams... and since you are getting the "decals" in the game, there is also more advertising suddenly ;)

why do they have good crashes? because crashes are part of racing... part of the specticle... with production cars, crashes really aren't part of the mystique.

that said, i'd much rather have bits of glass flying around, a hood flying off... tires bursting, a wheel passing by etc. after a crash... it would encurage people to do better hot laps... and such.

[Vansquish]

there are license stipulations that a car cannot be shown broken... so anything more then what PGR has is unlikely IMO

can you expand more on that? I never heard or read anything about this. So basically, you cant show a smashed up car why?

I think because of the various companies view on the PR of having smashed up cars... have it look good all the time.

with true racing games, (including nascar games) they show tons of damage, but they dont buy the licence from Ford/GM/Toyota/DXC specifically... but rather the licence is obtained from NASCAR, and the various teams... and since you are getting the "decals" in the game, there is also more advertising suddenly ;)

why do they have good crashes? because crashes are part of racing... part of the specticle... with production cars, crashes really aren't part of the mystique.

that said, i'd much rather have bits of glass flying around, a hood flying off... tires bursting, a wheel passing by etc. after a crash... it would encurage people to do better hot laps... and such.

I agree with that...I'd love to have damage in GT, as it would encourage cleaner laps, cleaner races, less bumping and shoving, and no r iding the wall like has been possible in the other versions of GT. On the other hand, there are certainly games out there that took licenses directly from auto manufacturers and had visible damage. Forza, the Need For Speed series (from 2 onwards), Test Drive and a variety of others. Granted, the number of cars and manufacturers in those games was far lower than GT, but the damage still exists.

[Daggernite]

That Kazunori bloke who is the creator said that in GT4 he did want damage, but unless all manufacters agreed to have damage he could'nt include it. So it could potentially be just a few car makers that wont agree to having there cars get smashed up on the game.

[DeMoN]

Exactly, to make it more real, as in, take care of your car rather than bump oponent off, is why I want realistic dmg. If they cant show the car messed up, they should at least add a damage bar or a little picture of the car looked from above and color from yellow to red and when something essential gets to red, you have to fix the car. That would add the difficulty w/o visually messing up the car.

[taygunho]

Bike VS. cars would be bad IMO. But damage and better AI would be better.