Z06 Compilation ... Feel the love... ;)

[RC45]

Another Z06 nut put this together the other day...

http://www.wrxfanatics.com/index.php?act=Attach&type=post&id=635619

Feel the love ;)

[yg60m]

It didn't work until I turn DAP off :wink: Downloading :P

[yg60m]

Very nicely edited and I love the song too :wink: Thanks RC :P

[Stikz]

Thanks for the link RC :D

[blinkmeat]

won't work for me either - what's DAP?

[black_magician]

I loved the music , nice touch. :D

[coombsie66]

lol, funny vid, all the sped up bits look shite IMO, but the best bit of corvette footage ive ever seen is that yellow one being absolutely pasted round the track at the start, awsome driving. :D

[RC45]

That footage is from one of the original Viper ACR vs Ford Cobra R vs C5 Z06 tests in 2000 - and that day the stage was set as the Z06 sent the Viper ACR and the Cobra R home with slower laptimes.

The Viper had about 1/10th in the quarter mile, but the Z stopped, turned and handled so well, they literally drove the Viper into a ditch trying to keep up on the track... ;)

[DeMoN]

I have another video. Its a BestMOtoring one

Ferrari 360, GT-R, Porsche 911, EVO, Corvette (guess who comes out last)

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6023510595639884890&q=skyline

[RC45]

I have another video. Its a BestMOtoring one

Ferrari 360, GT-R, Porsche 911, EVO, Corvette (guess who comes out last)

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6023510595639884890&q=skyline

Let me put this is plain simple non-immigrant english.

Fuckoff trashing these threads - please.. ok?

That video - for your uninformed self shows a 350hp Z51 with narrower tyres, heavier weight and a hamfgisted mis-shifting driver.

MMMkay?

The car in "your" video is not a Z06, does not have 385hp (like the yellow car in the video compilaiton I posted), it is not lighter, does not have shorter gearing and is not the same car - period.

And incase you didn't get the hint in the 2nd line of this post, please fuck off trashing these threads? mmmkay??

In head to head after head to head the Z06 was shown to be wheel to wheel with the F360, the F360CS, the P911T and the P911GT3... you guys are seriously needing to get a life.

[Daggernite]

Im not vette hating here so dont hate me ok? But I think this video gives an example as to why the majority of people just cant get excited about the new Z06. I mean in the video, the corvette is what? the third most powerful on track yet comes last. beaten by the "four banger" evo and Inline6 skyline which has only 280bhp and much smaller engines. I think people have to presume its the handlings fault on the vette, hence the saying "american cars cant take corners", and since the other major american car the Viper handles even worse, that statment stays in peoples heads even more.

Personally I cant blame people for thinking that, I've seen the C5 on the touge section and they said it was dangerous, and visually you can see it did'nt look too good. So I think the people of JW, and the world see videos like this, and really you never see anything good for the corvette other than highway videos of amateurs dragracing ferrari's which means shit all really, because in the back of peoples heads you know that professionals can take a lesser powered japanese car round a track and whoop it.

Now the part where I agree with RC45. The latest corvette, the Z06 seems to be a vette which has come from diffrent thinking. I think everyone should try forget the past and look whats on offer today. Instead of just giving it a hugh engine, cheap everything else, and luring everyone in with a cheap price tag. The engine, matrials, and nearly every aspects of the car has got the same kind of attention which the Ferraris and other supercars get. It does'nt have the visual greatness of a ferrari inside or out. But all is fair, your paying alot less.

God im ranting on alot aint I. Let me summarize.

RC, basically, I agree with you people should lighten up on the new Z06, its great. But I would say stop been so defensive as a vette owner tho, the Z06 will shine through if its a great car all by itself. I think your frustrated knowing its not getting the respect it should, but on another note, people aint going to change there minds so quickly either. Especially when there use to videos like that from bmi, clearly showing that the past models was not on par with the rest of the world.

and to other members I would say, dont judge the new Z06 on past models, they've tried really hard this time round. As a car lover I like cars to get the respect they deserve so makers continue making car in that fashion. Lets just see how it does.

I hate to act like a sissy boy and be the voice of reason, but this whole american and corvette VS the world is getting terrible. The last month has been like a war. I understand both sides of the story, but where all here because we love cars right?

[RC45]

Im not vette hating here so dont hate me ok? But I think this video gives an example as to why the majority of people just cant get excited about the new Z06.

No it doesn't

People admit and are aware that the F360, the F360Cs and F360GT etc are different cras essentially and beahve differently.

No difference here.

The first 3 cars in that video are 4wd on a shortish tight track. I Don't see you simply writing off the NSX?

And again - the Corvette Coupe in that video is NOT a Z06, not even a C5 Z06 - which is a lighter car, more powerful car, wider tyred car, stickier tyred car, shorter geared car, stiffer and sports suspended car.

What part of THAT is not understandable.

And this thread was to enjoy a compilation video - not for some hating fuckwas to come post an inflamatory vidoe out of context to start and argument.

That is the most important point.


I mean in the video, the corvette is what? the third most powerful on track yet comes last. beaten by the "four banger" evo and Inline6 skyline which has only 280bhp and much smaller engines. I think people have to presume its the handlings fault on the vette, hence the saying "american cars cant take corners", and since the other major american car the Viper handles even worse, that statment stays in peoples heads even more.

I must correct you - the Viper does not handle worse than the Corvette Coupe - it handles much better. Please understand the Z51 suspended Coupe in the BM video is NOT a balls-to-the wall car - it is a middle-of-the-road car aimed at people who don't feel like having a hard edged razor edge car.

The 911TT, the Evo and the GTR-R are hardcore, hardedged - and in the same excercise the Boxster, SAkyline Taxi and Lancer Econbox would suck - but you never see this brought up.


Personally I cant blame people for thinking that, I've seen the C5 on the touge section and they said it was dangerous, and visually you can see it did'nt look too good.

Again - The STOCK MUTHER FUCKING COUPE!!!!!!!!!!!

NOT THE HARDEGDED BALLSOUT MODEL!!!


PLEASE!!!! I wish people would present factual correct information.

How many times does it have to be explained.

There is a soft egded general consumption Corvette made for the masses and everyman joe.

And there is a purpose-made hard egded ballsout model - Just like the Evo-any-version, the Skyline GTR, the 911TT and 911GT3 and even the NSXR etc.


So I think the people of JW, and the world see videos like this, and really you never see anything good for the corvette other than highway videos of amateurs dragracing ferrari's which means shit all really, because in the back of peoples heads you know that professionals can take a lesser powered japanese car round a track and whoop it.

And again 10000000000000000 times has it been sadi - LOOK AT WHICH MODEL IS BEING SHOWCASED!!!!!!!

People are biased and like to talk shit and hate on the car - and DO NOT consider the model under scrutiny.

Peoplr of the world and JW are fucking idiots then if after 16 years they have not figu8red out there are 2 godamnmuthafucking models of Corvette available.

Let me say it again.

For the C4 :

The Coupe/Vert (with some other otions)

The ZR1

For the C5:

The Coupe. (and Vert)

And the Z06.

And again for the C6:

The Coupe (and vert)

And the Z06.


Now the part where I agree with RC45.

Note the above tyrade is not directed at you - but is simply using your post as the vehicle for delivery.


The latest corvette, the Z06 seems to be a vette which has come from diffrent thinking.

Correction - this has been true since 1990 when the ZR1 was rolled out.
It is just nobody admitted it.

The C5 Z06 is an F360 betaer and an F360CS equal in many areas. That is how good the and different the C5 Z06 is from the C5 Coupe.


I think everyone should try forget the past and look whats on offer today

Again - I must correct you.

It not just "the Corvette of today" - it is also the C5 Z06 produced since August 2000 and the C4 Zr1 produced from August 1989.

Again - please be aware that the C5 Z05 didn't lap the Nurburgring in 7m56s because it sucks.



Instead of just giving it a hugh engine, cheap everything else, and luring everyone in with a cheap price tag. The engine, matrials, and nearly every aspects of the car has got the same kind of attention which the Ferraris and other supercars get. It does'nt have the visual greatness of a ferrari inside or out. But all is fair, your paying alot less.

This holds true for the C4 ZR1, the C5 Z06 and the C6 Z06.

The attention to detaiol in the C5 Z06 included special lighter thinner windshields, GYF! SC tyres (yes the same compound rubber as on the F50, Macca F1 and the F360 among others) and there are other points from the ZR1, the C5 Z06 and the C6 Z06.

Just because the ZR1 and the C5 Z06 were not sold in Europe, Japan and else where does not mean the cars never existed or diminish their ability.



God im ranting on alot aint I. Let me summarize.

RC, basically, I agree with you people should lighten up on the new Z06, its great.

What abotu the previous Z06 and the ZR1? See just beacuse you guys don't know the cars capabilities doesn't mean they are not capable.



But I would say stop been so defensive as a vette owner tho, the Z06 will shine through if its a great car all by itself.

No it won't. People start out giving it shit - period. The C5 Z06 lapped the Nurburgring in the same times as the Porsche GT3 and it still gets not consideration.



I think your frustrated knowing its not getting the respect it should, but on another note, people aint going to change there minds so quickly either. Especially when there use to videos like that from bmi, clearly showing that the past models was not on par with the rest of the world.

The Coupe - which is a softer car. Purpose built to be a softer car. Purpose built to NOT be the cutting hard edged ballsout model.

And a video that had no buisiness being posted int his thread by the way. That is even just another example of people being biased jerks for the sake of being jerks.

A fuckingtention idiots of the world and JW!!!! The C5 Coupe in the BMI Video is like the WRX is to the STi - cool but not the dogs bollucks by any means



and to other members I would say, dont judge the new Z06 on past models, they've tried really hard this time round. As a car lover I like cars to get the respect they deserve so makers continue making car in that fashion. Lets just see how it does.

I respect your sentiment but again - your own uneducation and bias is showing up right here.

WTF is this "give the new model credit"??

The previous mopdel stands toes to toe with the F360CS and the P911GT3 - those are generational peers.



I hate to act like a sissy boy and be the voice of reason, but this whole american and corvette VS the world is getting terrible. The last month has been like a war. I understand both sides of the story, but where all here because we love cars right?
You will not change the bias that arseholes, jerks and pricks have.

They will say what they say - and hold the opinion they have.

Yet int he same breath would NEVER consider judging the Skyline GT-R on the performance of a mid-model Skyline - but are happy to that for the Vette.

I could care less who like or hates the car - but don't have to sit by as people talk shit and promote false info.

I have never claimed the ZR1, C5 Z06 or C6 Z06 are the best at anything - I have simply said they are/were world class cars that can stand on their own - and people who drive and race them know this and give credit where it is due.

I just would like all the losers who purposefully clutter ever post with false bias to shape up or ship out.

That is getting tiring as wel

[Daggernite]

I respect your sentiment but again - your own uneducation and bias is showing up right here.

WTF is this "give the new model credit"??

The previous mopdel stands toes to toe with the F360CS and the P911GT3 - those are generational peers.



:shock: damn you put some effort into that last post. Im not sure how i was showing bias and uneducation, by saying "give the car some credit". I did'nt say it in the frame of mind that the previous models was'nt any good. I think you were readin in wrong context to what I meant.
Actually alot it seems to me was taken the wrong way, probably my fault since im not the best writer, and i did write alot :P. Well it was a peace talk in a way, i guess i failed :|

[RC45]

I respect your sentiment but again - your own uneducation and bias is showing up right here.

WTF is this "give the new model credit"??

The previous mopdel stands toes to toe with the F360CS and the P911GT3 - those are generational peers.



:shock: damn you put some effort into that last post. Im not sure how i was showing bias and uneducation, by saying "give the car some credit". I did'nt say it in the frame of mind that the previous models was'nt any good. I think you were readin in wrong context to what I meant.
Actually alot it seems to me was taken the wrong way, probably my fault since im not the best writer, and i did write alot :P. Well it was a peace talk in a way, i guess i failed :|

As I pointed out, my rant was not directed at you - it used your post as a vehicle.

But I will say, in your entire post you never once made reference to or acknowledged the fact that their are 2 very different cars sold under the Corvette label... and have been for the lat 16 years.

One for the average driver who enjoys a good V8 cruise and the ability to have some fun and be sporty... and another for the all-out performance enthusiast.

The ZR1, C5 Z06 and C6 Z06 are the no-holds-barred, balls to the wall hipo offerings - this is the point missed by everyone.

A candid question: Based on the fact that the C5 Z06 is capable of lapping the Nurburgring in 7m56s - equal to the 911GT3 would you say the car deserves unqualified credit?

And a comment - all the "anti-Corvette" lobby are the only people who take the regular Coupe's performance during tests and make a big del out of it.

Corvette enthusiasts already know and accept the Coupe is NOT the top dog Vette, and doesn't behave like one - so if we know it, and accept it, why do the haters find nescesary to use the already admitted average performance as a segway to a vette-bashing? ;)

For the record:
A C4, C5 or C6 Coupe are not the best, greatest, awesomest car on the planet - they are simply competant sports cars.

And they are NOT the same as the C4 ZR1, C5 Z06 or C6 Z06 - which are in fcat able to stand toe to toe with high performance peers of their own generation.

:)

[Daggernite]

Im not disregarding the other top models, the reason I did'nt mention them is because all the fuss latley has mainly been over the Z06, so I was referring to that imparticular. And was trying to say that when people see the "coupe" doing so poor on BMI or other such videos or media, its sets a bad reputation, which follows on and sticks with the Z06 with some people, who dont know about the corvette range, and thats not such a suprise since there only sold in America. Might not be fair on the vette but its true.
Then you have people who just dont like them, which again I think is fair enough, people look for diffrent things in cars and not just numbers on a piece of paper. I hate bentleys and rolls royce for example, and I have no reason for hating them, I just do. Anyhoo, I'll just live in hope everyone can get along here on JW.

[RC45]

AGain - thats a cop out - even after having the fact explained that there are 2 models.... NOBODY except non-Vette people have any aspirations of the Coupe being the "holy grail" - and NEVER has he Coupe been proclaimed to be anything but a capable sports car and nothing more.

Skylines are not sold in the UK, but people do not judge the GTR performance on the Skyline sedan performance... do they? No.

Same difference.The BMI video has the TOP model of each car in it - yet the mediocre AVERAGE Vette - again we are telling everyone, the Coupe is built EXACTLY the way it is. It is SUPPOSED to do what it does the way it does - it is the cra for 90% of the poeple who want a capable cruiser.

Period.

Who except Vette haters try to claim otherwise - in the mean time the TOP model is simply ignored because it doesn't fit in with the Jeremy Clarkson crap view.

People who claim to e auto enthusiasts ought to know these things - right?

I notice you still haven't adressed this one:

A candid question: Based on the fact that the C5 Z06 is capable of lapping the Nurburgring in 7m56s - equal to the 911GT3 would you say the car deserves unqualified credit?

And I don't care if you do or don't but it is indicative of how people respond and think ;)

[DeMoN]

^ lol, that wont happen when ppl like RC45 here take that tone. Instead of persuading, he is "hitlering" about the "awesomness" of the corvette. From what I read, many ppl agree (including myself) that the Z06 is a good car. What I (and others) say is that the regular corvettes have nothing to offer, but straight-line acceleration. I bet if they changed the shape and name of the Z06 as to be a totally different car, it would get recognized better.

[RC45]

^ lol, that wont happen when ppl like RC45 here take that tone. Instead of persuading, he is "hitlering" about the "awesomness" of the corvette. From what I read, many ppl agree (including myself) that the Z06 is a good car. What I (and others) say is that the regular corvettes have nothing to offer, but straight-line acceleration. I bet if they changed the shape and name of the Z06 as to be a totally different car, it would get recognized better.

Dude - f-off. And I make no appology for telling you straight up.

You posted that pointless video in this thread for no reason than being a prick. It has NOTHING to do with the sentiment of the compilation video - it does not even include the same model of car. YOU fucked up this thread.

Arseholes like this are the only people who keep harping on the Coupe vs other top model cars - over and over again.

Again - the Corvette Coupe is made for the masses and is a cool car - not a balls to the wall top dog. never was intended to be, never will be.

According to your logic the Golf GTi must suck - because if you do a head to head of the regular run of the mill Golf against other hot hatches it would lose - therefore the GTi must suck - right?

It's an absurd statement and position to take.

I am about done with JW because of arseholes like you that make this place not worth the logon time.

When it gets to this point - it's time to move on. That time came over at R acing F lix and it is about that time here now as well.

Since day one I have never made false claims or posted untruth or fanboyed the ZR1 or Z06 without out facts to back the comment up - yet every single counterpoint provided has simply been rumour, lie and falsehood.

It's gets old.

It's got old.

[coombsie66]

^^ I agree, and it would be a great shame, not to mention a loss to loose you from this forum RC, but as long as people constantly spout bullshit then i can see where you are coming from ...

[DeMoN]

i read the rules here

:arrow:
I read the rules! you can too!
http://www.motorworld.net/forum/showthread.php?t=28049

[RC45]

I read the rules! you can too!
http://www.motorworld.net/forum/showthread.php?t=28049
.

So - you speak 3 languages - guess you never figured on someoen speaking 5... not counting the African dialects I can get by in.

Racial? What racial statement?

You are a guest leaching off the system - and my hispanic wife really counts as a red-neck sister I guess.

Nice try buddy - but you already lost when you posted the nonsense you did - it was uncalled for - yet you did it.

I am guessing this is the last post to directly address you that will not get deleted.

[RC45]

I read the rules too! yea!

http://www.motorworld.net/forum/showthread.php?t=28049

[RC45]

I always wondered why you never owned up to leaking the C6 Z06 pictures -

Iowa sucks