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ferrarislave
04-17-2006, 02:20 PM
Crazy, I don't know if the Enzo was not in race mode or if the A/C was on full blast. Video credit goes to BinOmaria from exotiXboard.com

Check it out

Link:
http://exotixboard.com/t2914-the-latest-from-bsp-bin-sulayem-performance.html

TNT
04-17-2006, 02:24 PM
wrong section

5vz-fe
04-17-2006, 02:40 PM
Shit, E class with SLR motor......that is such a "stab you at the back in a dark alley" sleeper!! :shock: :shock:

yg60m
04-17-2006, 03:00 PM
Incredible !! The Enzo guy now has to put a FXX engine in his Enzo :wink:

BTW, how can you save the vid ??

Shinigami
04-17-2006, 08:46 PM
They do several runs in the video clip: http://homepage.mac.com/nerv256/SLK-R55VsFerrari_Enzo.wmv

Even past 160mph (I think he yells 175 at one point) the SLK is still ahead and pulling...

Kinda crazy that... maybe they should put an SLR engine in the Enzo (just kidding ;) ).

Whilst an SLR engine must be a pretty expensive thing... buying an SLK 55 AMG and adding the Kleemann Kompressor kit can also get you 600hp (close to the SLR's power rating) for a relatively fair price. And with the Kleemann LSD, supposedly can get as low as 3.4sec 0-60 times...

twboy1999
04-17-2006, 09:25 PM
that thing needed more power than enzo to pull like that

slk55 is heavier than enzo, and with stock slr engine on slk55,, no way it can beat the enzo like that.. pretty sure it cant beat the enzo also with stock slr engine

JoeHahn
04-17-2006, 10:12 PM
Haha! On that second video in the out of car shot just listen to the supercharger - you can hear that thing a mile away, I love it!

5vz-fe
04-17-2006, 11:22 PM
that thing needed more power than enzo to pull like that

slk55 is heavier than enzo, and with stock slr engine on slk55,, no way it can beat the enzo like that.. pretty sure it cant beat the enzo also with stock slr engine

I think they upgraded the intercooler and increase boost.

sikx5
04-18-2006, 12:16 AM
just downloading the video, this dude has some nice toys :shock:

thanks for the vid.

Shinigami
04-18-2006, 12:19 AM
that thing needed more power than enzo to pull like that

slk55 is heavier than enzo, and with stock slr engine on slk55,, no way it can beat the enzo like that.. pretty sure it cant beat the enzo also with stock slr engine
Yeah, maybe, but...

The 7G gearbox in the SLK is geared in such a manner to make it pull very hard. According to some runs (by both owners and magazines), the SLK can do 0-60 in 4.3 seconds, even though the official numbers are 4.9.

Thus, the SLK 55 AMG with 360hp is able to beat some other cars with 400hp and less weight, and weight is not always the decisive factor (it is a big contributor).

According to earlier posting by Bin Sulayem, the SLR engine in the SLK was producing a little bit less power then in the SLR due to the way they had to route the exhaust, so assuming this SLK was still the same one with the same engine mod (and not pumped up), it beat the 660hp Enzo probably due to the gearbox ratios or something like that.

I know some people who mod the S2000 with Toyota gearboxes in order to gain another few tenths of a second on their 0-60 pulls. And the ~600hp Kleemann modified SLK 55 AMG supposedly does 0-60 in anywhere from 3.4 to 3.6 seconds (the numbers haven't been confirmed yet, but some members with the mods have said they will dyno run the cars).

*shrug*

taygunho
04-18-2006, 02:07 AM
İt can't be true.I don't think enzo pushed to win.

saadie
04-18-2006, 04:28 AM
bahh .. dont want to register :|...
thjx Shinigami for the linky :)

bmagni
04-18-2006, 01:44 PM
İt can't be true.I don't think enzo pushed to win.

lol, he did, the SLR engine is modified... what people have to do to beat an Enzo in a straight line... get it to the track and bye bye SLK

info from a close friend of the owner:


The transmission is indeed a 7 speed, modified to survive happily to 1200Nm [885 lbs/ft — ed]. The Engine is an SLR unit, the 55 series engines are virtually identical in exterior appearance, internal components vary to suit requirements.

The engine fitted is pure SLR with one exception. The SLK flexplate and SLR crankshaft run different bolt patterns, so the crankshaft fitted to this engine is a prototype that has now gone into production for various models. The SLR Kompressor configuration is unique. The black units on top of the engine are water cooled intercooler assemblies, no air filters as somebody advised earlier. As anyone will know who has driven an SLR hard in high ambient temperatures, the SLR intercooler water system is not capable of an adequately cool water supply and performance suffers because of it, so a large amount of the installation and design of this project was dedicated to intercooler temperature control.

We have used a full sized E55 engine radiator with hand fabricated end tanks and placed it in front of the air conditioning condensor. A 10 litre water catch / swirl tank supplys cooled water to the 2 AMG intercooler water pumps and these pump water through the intercoolers and back to the intercooler radiator. Intercooler water temps have never risen more than 12 degrees over ambient.

The airbox is now mounted above the battery for 2 reasons, The highest air pressure point on the vehicle is at the base of the windscreen and it also happens to be a good source of the coolest air possible.The SLR engine sump is larger than the SLK and runs a slightly different layout configuration, hence the need to change the front anti roll bar. We fabricated and adjustable chrome moly unit which is clearly visible on the under car shots. The SLK and SLR Motronic control units and wiring are very different in CAN addressing and pinouts, for this reason an E55 engine ECU and wiring loom was used and reprogrammed to suit. E throttle control, ESP, Engine fan control, injector sizing, ignition and fuel tables plus much more.

The exhaust modifications visible in the pictures were a temporary fix to establish noise levels prior to exhaust system development, this has now been updated and as anyone who has heard the car in anger will tell you, the sound is breathtaking. The only way I can truely explain it is every time I hear it, I am reminded of a summers evening in Pamona several years ago, watching Pro Stock qualifying. I honestly hope it comes through clearly on the video. Our ambient air temperature during summer can exceed 50deg C, this is the reason for the summer bonnet, during winter the covered bonnet will be fitted. Anytime under bonnet temperatures can be decreased, power will increase.

Speaking of power, I beleive the standard SLR engine is rated at 625hp? Please be assured that with our 98 premium octane, an intercooler system that exceeds requirements, additional supercharger pressure via drive upgrades and some serious dyno time, the SLR engine is capable of well more than this consistantly. Power in this car? Adequate!

Additional weight over the front wheels is approximately half the weight of a passenger, weight balance is unchanged as the SLR engine and SLK engine sit in the same position. The front and rear suspension have been changed with uprated springs and shocks in the rear to better control the squat this power level produces and of course the front shocks needed changing because as one might expect, the front wheels almost lift under hard acceleration.
Why an SLR engine?

Simple, the completed car is a quarter the cost of an SLR, its faster than an SLR because its approx 400Kg lighter, and the car is relatively inconspicuous. A personalised SLR has been ordered and will arrive when finished, but sometimes its good not to wave a huge flag.
This car has something that the majority of engine transplants do not. It can, will and has been parked outside the front door of the Royal Palace and acknowledged with a smile that it matches the style synonomous with the name Mohammed Ben Sulayem.

5vz-fe
04-18-2006, 02:42 PM
400kg lighter??!!!!???!!! :shock: :shock: Really? Typo maybe, make more sense if it's in lbs.

callen
04-18-2006, 02:49 PM
This is one of the most serious conversions I have ever heard of! I love the look and power of the new SLK 55, but to drop the SLR engine in there, and have it run practically!? Pretty serious stuff if you ask me, and a very real 'sleeper' in the true sense of the word! hehe :mrgreen:

twboy1999
04-18-2006, 03:38 PM
400kg lighter??!!!!???!!! :shock: :shock: Really? Typo maybe, make more sense if it's in lbs.

dun think is 400kg lighter
but around 200kg is more likely
slr is like 1700kg+
slk55 should be around around the 1500kg range

5vz-fe
04-18-2006, 04:04 PM
400kg lighter??!!!!???!!! :shock: :shock: Really? Typo maybe, make more sense if it's in lbs.

dun think is 400kg lighter
but around 200kg is more likely
slr is like 1700kg+
slk55 should be around around the 1500kg range

Yeah, that's what I thought. Still 400lbs is pretty good, that's Clarkson + Hamster all together.

bmagni
04-18-2006, 04:10 PM
uploaded it to rapidshare

http://rapidshare.de/files/18310628/SLK-R_55_Vs_Ferrari_Enzo.wmv.html

bmagni
04-18-2006, 04:55 PM
uploaded it to rapidshare

http://rapidshare.de/files/18310628/SLK-R_55_Vs_Ferrari_Enzo.wmv.html

Gracias!! :D

de nada !

coombsie66
04-18-2006, 05:26 PM
I'd be interested to see what modifications they have made to that gearbox to survive 1200Nm 'reliably', for that matter, im pretty sure AMG and Merc would be too! :wink:

RF1
04-18-2006, 05:50 PM
incredible
wow!!
slk is fantastic
:D

stmoritzer
04-19-2006, 03:20 AM
They do several runs in the video clip: http://homepage.mac.com/nerv256/SLK-R55VsFerrari_Enzo.wmv

Even past 160mph (I think he yells 175 at one point) the SLK is still ahead and pulling...

Kinda crazy that... maybe they should put an SLR engine in the Enzo (just kidding ;) ).

Whilst an SLR engine must be a pretty expensive thing... buying an SLK 55 AMG and adding the Kleemann Kompressor kit can also get you 600hp (close to the SLR's power rating) for a relatively fair price. And with the Kleemann LSD, supposedly can get as low as 3.4sec 0-60 times...

couldn't dl the file (bandwidth issues) :bah:
thanks anyway Shini
I registered to Exoticboard and go the file...

Shinigami
04-19-2006, 05:13 AM
The 7G gearbox is able to take over 700nm of continuous torque stress. I wonder if they cryo'ed the gears or something to make it support 1200nm?

The lightest SLK weighs less then 1400kilos (this is the dry weight... although "dry weight" seems to have a different connotation for each company... in MB's case, I believe it's with a driver and over half a tank of gas...). The SLK 55 quickly gets heavier due to larger rims, more electronics and gizmo's, as well as the heavier engine (by approximately 100 kilos).

bmagni
04-19-2006, 07:26 PM
They do several runs in the video clip: http://homepage.mac.com/nerv256/SLK-R55VsFerrari_Enzo.wmv

Even past 160mph (I think he yells 175 at one point) the SLK is still ahead and pulling...

Kinda crazy that... maybe they should put an SLR engine in the Enzo (just kidding ;) ).

Whilst an SLR engine must be a pretty expensive thing... buying an SLK 55 AMG and adding the Kleemann Kompressor kit can also get you 600hp (close to the SLR's power rating) for a relatively fair price. And with the Kleemann LSD, supposedly can get as low as 3.4sec 0-60 times...

couldn't dl the file (bandwidth issues) :bah:
thanks anyway Shini
I registered to Exoticboard and go the file...

its uploaded at rapidshare, see post #20

saadie
04-20-2006, 03:44 AM
direct linky ... posted but some dude in another topic :wink:
URL http://www.cars-club.com/abd-up/SLK.with.SLReng.VS.Ferrari.ENZO_Cars-Club.com.wmv

Bedwi
04-27-2006, 05:31 PM
The Slk-slr engine is not Stock, Its pushing somewhere over 680 Ponies