More on the new V8 M3

[StanAE86]

http://www.autonews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/CW/20060328/FREE/60327014/1003/SUB

[gobs3z]

The odd thing is, this is partially a repost. It was under the CTS Super V thread, keep up the good work! :lol:
http://www.motorworld.net/forum/showthread.php?t=37870

[dutchmasterflex]

^^ haha.. yea right


you're just bitter because your TT cant do this:

http://img81.imageshack.us/img81/8636/60603300021l3kw.th.jpg

[ae86_16v]

It looks weird with Chrome window trim. . . usually BMW Sport Packaged cars have black or shadow trim.

[StanAE86]

I don't know about new cars, but the old M cars all came with regular chrome trim, like the regular series cars...and shadowline was an option...

[Schwalbe]

@ Everso : So now, I just want to be sure the sport model of the new BMW 3 series is called GTP or M3 ? :P

[bmagni]

@ Everso : So now, I just want to be sure the sport model of the new BMW 3 series is called GTP or M3 ? :P

anyway its gonna be RS4 killer...

[Schwalbe]

@ Everso : So now, I just want to be sure the sport model of the new BMW 3 series is called GTP or M3 ? :P

anyway its gonna be RS4 killer...

Only in BMW's Chris Bangle dreams ! :wink:

[bmagni]

RS4 killer?? hahahahahaha......no way in hell.

the "next" M3 can take on the S4, i suppose.....past that, it's pushing its luck! won't stand much of a chance against the RS4.

sorry buddy 335i ~ S4, M3 ~ RS4, CSL no Audi competition ;)

[Evo]

sorry buddy 335i ~ S4, M3 ~ RS4, CSL no Audi competition ;)

LooL.. Wait until Brembo reads this.. :lol:

[JoeHahn]

^^ haha.. yea right


you're just bitter because your TT cant do this:

http://img81.imageshack.us/img81/8636/60603300021l3kw.th.jpg

Cant do what? Roll and squat on its soft underpinnings? :twisted:

[Schwalbe]

RS4 killer?? hahahahahaha......no way in hell.

the "next" M3 can take on the S4, i suppose.....past that, it's pushing its luck! won't stand much of a chance against the RS4.

sorry buddy 335i ~ S4, M3 ~ RS4, CSL no Audi competition ;)

I have some sad news for you mate, Audi quattro GmbH currently proceed some study test on a new Audi B7 RS4 "Plus" version available for late 2008. It's a lightweight version of the RS4 with DSG gear box and the best... a FSI V8 4.2L engine of 480 or 500hp ! Bye Bye future BMW E90 M3 CSL under every road conditions conceivable ! :prr:

[ae86_16v]

I don't know about new cars, but the old M cars all came with regular chrome trim, like the regular series cars...and shadowline was an option...

Well, it looks like only the E34 M5 and E26 M6 had chrome window trim. Even all the old E28 M5s and E30 M3s all had shadowline window trim.

[bmagni]

RS4 killer?? hahahahahaha......no way in hell.

the "next" M3 can take on the S4, i suppose.....past that, it's pushing its luck! won't stand much of a chance against the RS4.

sorry buddy 335i ~ S4, M3 ~ RS4, CSL no Audi competition ;)

I have some sad news for you mate, Audi quattro GmbH currently proceed some study test on a new Audi B7 RS4 "Plus" version available for late 2008. It's a lightweight version of the RS4 with DSG gear box and the best... a FSI V8 4.2L engine of 480 or 500hp ! Bye Bye future BMW E90 M3 CSL under every road conditions conceivable ! :prr:

do you have the specs of the CSL ?? i don't think so, and clearly theyre gonna crash that thing called RS4 "plus" - still theres no match for the E46 CSL.
Seriously all the way the have to go to compete, the S4 is supposed to match the M3, but it can't it gets awfuly owned, then the RS4 (the past one) which matches the M3, but if it follows the order it should compete with the CSL... double, triple, cuadruple ownage !! and WTF is RS4 "plus" ? an attempt to match the CSL which following the pattern its rival should be an M3 GTR. which in other words should be Audi would get owned... again... whats next ?? "RS4 plus DTM we can't get more words in it but we want to beat the M3" ???

[r2r]

^^^ :D Interesting... :popcorn:

[DeMoN]

Ok so can someone help me out a bit about the M3 thing. I want to trade my G35 for something faster, I was thinking either Current M3, New M3, Lotus Exige, or GT-R.

Problem with GT-R is that it might be too expensive and overpriced, problem with Exige is that they sell them 3 hours away from here and to service it, I would have to go local to a toyota/lexus shop instead and I am really anal bout oil changes and services etc. and now the problem with M3's Current one looks Good, but outdated (like the G35's look much better) but the next-gen M3 is gonna be faster. Problem with newer M3 is that from what I see, it wont be nice at all (fast, but not pretty).

So my question is, E46 M3's are wider than regular 3 series? (or do they just have fatter bumper/tires?)

if BMW follow the tradition of making M cars very very similar (less grilles and badges) than its non M version, then I think the future M3 will sux bad in looks.

[5vz-fe]

^So no Cayman?

[blah]

^^ haha.. yea right


you're just bitter because your TT cant do this:

http://img81.imageshack.us/img81/8636/60603300021l3kw.th.jpg

Cant do what? Roll and squat on its soft underpinnings? :twisted:

There was an AUDI RS4 following it on that track but once that turn came up it just kinda kept going straight till it crashed into the fence.

M3>RS4
M5>RS6
M3 CSL>God.

[LotusGT1]

RS4 killer?? hahahahahaha......no way in hell.

the "next" M3 can take on the S4, i suppose.....past that, it's pushing its luck! won't stand much of a chance against the RS4.

LOL, just like the old days...

Source: track-challenge.com (http://www.track-challenge.com/main_e.asp) - The online database of SportAuto supertests.

http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/9964/18cz1.jpg

http://img133.imageshack.us/img133/9128/27vx.jpg

http://img110.imageshack.us/img110/5044/34ny.jpg

Funny all those speculations based on bullshit. But anyway, much is already said here:
http://www.motorworld.net/forum/showthread.php?t=35509
http://www.motorworld.net/forum/showthread.php?t=36719

[Pehtren]

I like BMWs, and i am in love with the M models. But i can say that i dont recomend the new M3 which will come now, becouse in a past fey years BMW gain a very bad reputation. The problems are electrical faults, bugs on first edition cars (E63, E65).
And the new E60 M5 has some problems i think its called VANOS. :roll:

But Demon i recomend the new RS4/S4 and of course a E46 M3 :wink:

If you like the new M3 wait a few years :wink:

[blah]

I dont see the point in spending 70+K on the RS4 AUDI when you can get an E55 for barely much more. 8)

[Pehtren]

I dont see the point in spending 70+K on the RS4 AUDI when you can get an E55 for barely much more. 8)

The E55 AMG is not so much agile, and my self i dont like the mercedes so much that i would buy it. Rather the RS4, or the BMW 645 :D

[DeMoN]

^So no Cayman?

I just cant make myself buy something that looks like it was made 5 years ago. All porsches look alike and well... thats what makes me not wanna get one.

[DeMoN]

I like the E46 M3, but it will look outdated pretty soon. I really want a car that looks good (and 2 door also). Just like with girls, I rather have a sweet pretty girl and have OK sex with her, than one that leaves me breathless but misses a tooth.

[blah]

I dont see the point in spending 70+K on the RS4 AUDI when you can get an E55 for barely much more. 8)

The E55 AMG is not so much agile, and my self i dont like the mercedes so much that i would buy it. Rather the RS4, or the BMW 645 :D

Then get an M5. 8)

[Pehtren]

I dont see the point in spending 70+K on the RS4 AUDI when you can get an E55 for barely much more. 8)

The E55 AMG is not so much agile, and my self i dont like the mercedes so much that i would buy it. Rather the RS4, or the BMW 645 :D

Then get an M5. 8)

8)

Demon tell us how much money do you have in the budget. :twisted:

BMW 645?? 8)

[5vz-fe]

I dont see the point in spending 70+K on the RS4 AUDI when you can get an E55 for barely much more. 8)

The E55 AMG is not so much agile, and my self i dont like the mercedes so much that i would buy it. Rather the RS4, or the BMW 645 :D

Then get an M5. 8)

Read: 2 door :wink: But that will be a great choice without that and money contraint

To be honest, I would suggest the C6 Z06, but I don't wanna start another war here. :D

[Pehtren]

I dont see the point in spending 70+K on the RS4 AUDI when you can get an E55 for barely much more. 8)

The E55 AMG is not so much agile, and my self i dont like the mercedes so much that i would buy it. Rather the RS4, or the BMW 645 :D

Then get an M5. 8)

Read: 2 door :wink: But that will be a great choice without that and money contraint

To be honest, I would suggest the C6 Z06, but I don't wanna start another war here. :D

:snipersmile:

:lol:

The corvette would be a nice choice, but its still a little plastic fantastic :roll:

oh oh oh, not 645 the 650 is in town 8)

[RC45]

Sure - plastic fantastic... 505hp stock, 700hp with cam and exhaust.

If that's you definition of plastic fantastic then plastic pwnz j00.. :P ;)

[Pehtren]

Sure - plastic fantastic... 505hp stock, 700hp with cam and exhaust.

If that's you definition of plastic fantastic then plastic pwnz j00.. :P ;)

Pwnez no doubt, in my opinon i would still buy an M3 over Z06. Dont get me wrong i like the Z06, especially the exterior :P and i didnt saw a Z06, but if i judge from Top gear test, Jeremy said that its still a bit cheap plastic inside.
Its not a big problem..

M3(e46) for me rules, outdated?????.......no way :twisted:

[5vz-fe]

I dont see the point in spending 70+K on the RS4 AUDI when you can get an E55 for barely much more. 8)

because an RS4 will bitchsmack an E55 in every way ;)

Every way but highway :wink:

*Edit* Looks like the exige is not the greatest buy:

http://www.caranddriver.com/comparisons/10833/2006-lotus-exige.html

[gobs3z]

Well Demon it seemed no one answered, but the M3 does have wider fenders and a wider foot. Mercs aren't anything special unless you get the new S-Class, and german cars altogether don't look to special since you couldn't see a difference between an A4, S4, RS4 unless you have some common knowledge on cars. IMO, i would get two cars with the budget you're talking about. A B6 A4 Quattro for a daily and strict sports car for the weekends. Maybe an older NSX, it isn't amazingly fast in the straights but the sound of the engine and the MR set up make it fun to drive and isn't that what it's all about. You can do all that for $50-60k depending on how many miles bother you on the NSX. Or you can go my route and spend $12k and build yourself a LSX RX-7. :D Or spend 17-18 and have someone else build it, you won't regret it!!
You could also go for an Cobra replica car which are a blast to drive with side pipes screaming in your ears, and they're eye catchers. You can find a good one for $30k in good condition.
If you want a daily sports car than i'de say get the RS4, M3 interiors are rubbish now and i can only handle so much uglyness. But if your smart you'll go all out and have a real sports car and relax when you want in an comfy A4 or somethin.

[r2r]

I like the E46 M3, but it will look outdated pretty soon. I really want a car that looks good (and 2 door also). Just like with girls, I rather have a sweet pretty girl and have OK sex with her, than one that leaves me breathless but misses a tooth.

That's an interesting way to think about it. :)

But I disagree with you on the fact that you say the E46 M3 will look outdated pretty soon, if anything the new one will look outdated faster then the previous design.

I believe the new BMW's are nothing more then a test bed for the next generation of the BMW's which I think will look much better and much well thought out, and they won't have to be redesigned as soon as they come out like the 7 series did.

It was a big jump for BMW to go from the previous generation BMW's to the new ones, and I think we have to give them a bit more time for them to get their act together to design "the ultimate driving machine"

[ae86_16v]

So my question is, E46 M3's are wider than regular 3 series? (or do they just have fatter bumper/tires?)


Yes, they have wider fenders and quarter panels.



I believe the new BMW's are nothing more then a test bed for the next generation of the BMW's which I think will look much better and much well thought out, and they won't have to be redesigned as soon as they come out like the 7 series did.


The 7 Series was redesigned was on schedule. BMWs have a 7 year cycle and the facelift always comes after the 4 year. The E65 7 Series debuted as a 2002 Model and 4 Model years later, the facelifted one is out as a 2006 Model Year.

[r2r]

I believe the new BMW's are nothing more then a test bed for the next generation of the BMW's which I think will look much better and much well thought out, and they won't have to be redesigned as soon as they come out like the 7 series did.


The 7 Series was redesigned was on schedule. BMWs have a 7 year cycle and the facelift always comes after the 4 year. The E65 7 Series debuted as a 2002 Model and 4 Model years later, the facelifted one is out as a 2006 Model Year.

Humm.... I guess it just seemed a bit to early, since I saw the new one in begining of 2005.

[blah]

What about a Noble M400?

[blah]

Sure - plastic fantastic... 505hp stock, 700hp with cam and exhaust.

If that's you definition of plastic fantastic then plastic pwnz j00.. :P ;)

Fucking American Shit box. :lol:

[Pehtren]

Sure - plastic fantastic... 505hp stock, 700hp with cam and exhaust.

If that's you definition of plastic fantastic then plastic pwnz j00.. :P ;)

Fucking American Shit box. :lol:

LOL dude, its sure plastic, but its a damn fast one....Its suposed to be match with the new Carrera.............in style, not, in the performance yes.

But the demon said that he dont wants a porsche. :(

[5vz-fe]

I dont see the point in spending 70+K on the RS4 AUDI when you can get an E55 for barely much more. 8)

because an RS4 will bitchsmack an E55 in every way ;)

Every way but highway :wink:

*Edit* Looks like the exige is not the greatest buy:

http://www.caranddriver.com/comparisons/10833/2006-lotus-exige.html

why wouldnt it be the greatest buy?? cause it doesnt have any luxury items?? screw luxury!!!!!!!!!!

they call these low points, :lol: !! "Lows: Race-car creature comforts, race-car noise, limited rear view."


personally, if i was in your position Demon i would go with Cayman, honestly who cares if the design is the same its about performance and thats one hell of a car!! or i would go with the Exige!!


though, realisticly i would probably get one of these!! :twisted: :twisted:
http://www.carclassic.com/stock.asp?StockID=102805

nah, I was refering to the extra drag compromise for the added downforce that's all.

[LotusGT1]

Sure - plastic fantastic... 505hp stock, 700hp with cam and exhaust.

If that's you definition of plastic fantastic then plastic pwnz j00.. :P ;)

Fucking American Shit box. :lol:

LOL dude, its sure plastic, but its a damn fast one....Its suposed to be match with the new Carrera.............in style, not, in the performance yes.

But the demon said that he dont wants a porsche. :(

The Z06 crushes any Porsche besides the CGT and the 997 Turbo.

[inso]

i guess lotusgt has not heard of mobydick or GT1.

and i am waiting for itsfun3 from qvarnis, it should break the cgt lap time at ring.

[dutchmasterflex]

Obviously he's talking about the current Porsche line up.. and I bet the z06 could hold its own against the 959 although I dont know too much about that car except that its pretty dated by now

[blah]

Sure - plastic fantastic... 505hp stock, 700hp with cam and exhaust.

If that's you definition of plastic fantastic then plastic pwnz j00.. :P ;)

Fucking American Shit box. :lol:

LOL dude, its sure plastic, but its a damn fast one....Its suposed to be match with the new Carrera.............in style, not, in the performance yes.

But the demon said that he dont wants a porsche. :(

I dont hate the Z06, I like it, RC knows this. Im just shit talking him.

[Pehtren]

Sure - plastic fantastic... 505hp stock, 700hp with cam and exhaust.

If that's you definition of plastic fantastic then plastic pwnz j00.. :P ;)

Fucking American Shit box. :lol:

LOL dude, its sure plastic, but its a damn fast one....Its suposed to be match with the new Carrera.............in style, not, in the performance yes.

But the demon said that he dont wants a porsche. :(

The Z06 crushes any Porsche besides the CGT and the 997 Turbo.

And so what..I like the car with style adn good interiour. You can mod the carrera to match the performance of the Z06 8)

[5vz-fe]

^How much will that take again?

[Pehtren]

Not so much as the Z06, because the corvette has a bigger engine.

RUF R kompressor-435HP, 0-60mph:4.1s......I think its based on the carrera S

RUF RT12: 530 hp, 560hp, 650hp

[Pehtren]

though, realisticly i would probably get one of these!! :twisted: :twisted:
http://www.carclassic.com/stock.asp?StockID=102805

Oh yesss!! :P And it's a Turbo 1!! :shock:

Talking about frenchie cars... what about a Clio V6 mk2?? Do you get them over there?? Anyway - you can import one. Then you'll have a ultra-rare car, sexy, spectacular... and sooo fun!! :D

Dani nice idea, but i like the V6 mk 3. :P , the mk2 is cool too :wink:

[ae86_16v]

What are we talking about here? I thought it was about the E90 M3 :D .

[DeMoN]

why wouldnt it be the greatest buy?? cause it doesnt have any luxury items?? screw luxury!!!!!!!!!!

they call these low points, :lol: !! "Lows: Race-car creature comforts, race-car noise, limited rear view."


personally, if i was in your position Demon i would go with Cayman, honestly who cares if the design is the same its about performance and thats one hell of a car!! or i would go with the Exige!!


though, realisticly i would probably get one of these!! :twisted: :twisted:
http://www.carclassic.com/stock.asp?StockID=102805

I think I want the exige. I heard that you can have the dealership install a turbo in it. Supposedly 4.3 seconds. Im guessning Cayman would beat the exige only in top speed right?

Man if you park both side by side, I bet more people will look at the exige. IT just looks sooo damn awesome. Friends of mine thought they costed like 80K$ instead of 53.

[Pehtren]

mk3?? :?

mk1 -> http://img93.imageshack.us/img93/7162/renaultcliov6017bw.th.jpg (http://img93.imageshack.us/my.php?image=renaultcliov6017bw.jpg)

mk2 -> http://img93.imageshack.us/img93/5605/renaultcliov6125gw.th.jpg (http://img93.imageshack.us/my.php?image=renaultcliov6125gw.jpg)

I'd say that there's no mk3....... and there won't be :?

Ups my mistake, i meant mk2 V6. Its based on a mk3 Clio, that i meant... :roll:

[dutchmasterflex]

Demon, I'd go with the Exige with out a doubt.

fuck the creature comforts and easy entrance.

Just make sure you have a track near by to keep the Exige happy..

[leo_26782]

If you choose to go Lotus, take an Elise, and upgrade it (add a compressor,...) :twisted: It costs less and ends up being better on a track :D

[bmagni]

wassup stan ?

[bmagni]

wassup stan ?

lol. nothing much, man...just chillin ;)

:P

[thepest]

E90 M3...can't wait!!

btw 10x for the pics everso....love to hood... so agressive and sexy - kicks ass

[mrai]

I hope they dont fuck this up since i know quite a few people who are having problems with their new M5's. Keeps showing Transmission failure, cannot shift to D or R or anything !!! the screen of the gear is empty!

[Pehtren]

Yes the VANOS and the transmission are two most often failures off the new M5/6. And the ppl now and they still buy the car...

[Bernardo]

almost every car have problems and ppl still buying 'em, if they dont ppl would just go to work by bike

[bmagni]

more new pics

http://img421.imageshack.us/img421/5967/m11df.th.jpg (http://img421.imageshack.us/my.php?image=m11df.jpg) http://img367.imageshack.us/img367/6829/m29pn.th.jpg (http://img367.imageshack.us/my.php?image=m29pn.jpg) http://img421.imageshack.us/img421/7555/m33zm.th.jpg (http://img421.imageshack.us/my.php?image=m33zm.jpg) http://img174.imageshack.us/img174/7686/m46wa.th.jpg (http://img174.imageshack.us/my.php?image=m46wa.jpg)

[coloradosilver]

Almost the same tail lights as the new 3-series coupe (non M). Thats a real disappointment. Looks like a Honda from the back.

I also have it that the 4.0 V8 will be producing 430 hp, not 400 as previously thought. My source on this is fairly accurate, but we'll have to wait and see for sure.

Will the performance and driving experience be enough to make up for the looks? Lets hope so, but it will take a lot.

[saadie]

tose rear lights sucks ..... bad .... the E90 lights were beter :?

[bmagni]

i dont see why the tail lights suck... they look good IMO

[skituner]

i dont see why the tail lights suck... they look good IMO

i agree, there very clean

[saadie]

ookay they dont look as bad as it looks in the pictures ... but they are really not the sporty type imo .. :roll:

[coloradosilver]

I'm just going to bite my tongue on this form now on. I'm going to have to see it in real life in the totally finished form without any camo to make a final decision about this one.

[JoeHahn]

Yeah I agree with the above two.

They've taken alot of the 'Bangle' out of this coupe and I think it takes away from it - makes it dull.

[DeMoN]

newer pics with weird tailights are better than the other one. Great stuff. They should have released pics of it already god damn!

[tuem88]

I think they should have kept the E90 front, because that looked pretty aggressive. The front of the coupe looks a bit soft to me.

Also the taillights of the E92 do look a little better, especially because the ones on the E90 were ugly, and I confused them with a Nissan Primera quite a few times in the beginning.

And I presume that the engine will be another masterpiece, like almost every BMW engine.

[bmagni]

pics bonanza :twisted: - spotted in cali

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[coloradosilver]

Great Pics...Thanks for posting.

I'd really like to see what they've done with the interrior.

I know that this car is supposed to be unveiled at the Paris auto show later this year, but does anyone know when it will be available to purchase. Will it be released in 2007 as an 07 or 08 model?

[gottacatchup]

That front end is funny looking...
Although I must say the proportions of the car look alot better in these pics than in pervious ones.

[DeMoN]

God damn I want to see it with no patches!

[coloradosilver]

God damn I want to see it with no patches!

Yeah...you and the rest of the world.

Will have to wait till September though. :(

[DeMoN]

September! WHAT? that cant be possible. Leaks leaks leeaakkss!

[Pehtren]

I dont see the SMG :?: :roll: , does this mean that the standard car will be fitted with proper manual :D

[bmagni]

I dont see the SMG :?: :roll: , does this mean that the standard car will be fitted with proper manual :D

i guess so, they probably now know that not everyone wants an SMG

[ae86_16v]

The US Market will have a standard traditional manual for sure. But I don't know about the rest of the world.

Hmm, still not sure about the coupe's styling. Front eyes/headlights looks too much like a Pontiac and the rear taillights looks like the 7 Series. Doesn't look sporty or aggressive.

[coloradosilver]

I dont see the SMG :?: :roll: , does this mean that the standard car will be fitted with proper manual :D

i guess so, they probably now know that not everyone wants an SMG

Actually, the 7 speed auto SMG ( called BMW SMG III) is the standard tranny for the car. A proper 6 speed manual will be offered as an option. :wink:

[Bernardo]

For me it looks pretty aggressive..especially the pic omn the 7th line 2 pic

[DeMoN]

Cant waint till september, someone has to get a picture!

[coloradosilver]

For me it looks pretty aggressive..especially the pic omn the 7th line 2 pic

I like it from every angle except the tail lights. Front, profile, and exhause all ook great. I'm just iffy abou the rear lights..

[Sir_GT]

That car looks seriously, seriously good. That new designer (Van Hooydonk) certainly knows how to do Bangle better than Bangle can. :)

[Bernardo]

i wonder if they couldn't find any worse wells to put on the mule

[tom333]

That car looks seriously, seriously good. That new designer (Van Hooydonk) certainly knows how to do Bangle better than Bangle can. :)

Note: When Bangle took over BMW he was credited with being responsible for alot of van hooydonk's designs. The "bangle look" is acctually one created by hooydonk's pencil but I think both are great designers and with one as head of BMW group design and the other as head of BMW car design we should see more great products

[Sir_GT]

That car looks seriously, seriously good. That new designer (Van Hooydonk) certainly knows how to do Bangle better than Bangle can. :)

Note: When Bangle took over BMW he was credited with being responsible for alot of van hooydonk's designs. The "bangle look" is acctually one created by hooydonk's pencil but I think both are great designers and with one as head of BMW group design and the other as head of BMW car design we should see more great products

AFAIK, Bangle developed the flame surfacing design theory. Which was based off italian contemporary rock scuplture, which uses light and shadow to create the image itself. IIRC, Hooydonk was part of the team that drafted the proportions on the current crop of cars, but Bangle himself fnished everything else. I know that Bangle was the one who completed the E90 sedan, which was his last project as being head of car design, and Hooydonk himself is responsible for the Z4 Coupe and the E92 Coupe.

[DeMoN]

more pictures!!! someone!

[thepest]

^^

The only place for more pics right now is e90post.com

try this link http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=21558 and download the zip files. There are some new pics in there, the quality is not very good but the big resolution compensates in a way!

here too..http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=17829

[DeMoN]

very nince, we need to see it topless now!

[bmagni]

very nince, we need to see it topless now!

i say in like 2 months

[ae86_16v]

very nince, we need to see it topless now!

i say in like 2 months

No, I think it'll be at least a year after the Coupe debuts before the Convertible comes out. The Coupe will definitely be of a 2008 Model Year.

[dutchmasterflex]

Forget the Her's (Convertible) version :lol: , Bring on the Coupe Sport Lightweight!

[thepest]

^ Whatever he said

[TopGearNL]

/\/\ too

[sads]

Its looking very good and very M in its styling

[chest3r]

I'm tired of this test cars. I want to see official pics !!! :mrgreen:

That front bumper doesn't look bad, but the whole car doesn't look very aggressive :roll:

[thepest]

It's a BMW and it is an M - it's gonna be aggressive! :twisted:

[chest3r]

^^ This isn't the CSL :wink: and don't forget the final wheels will be bigger than these ones in the pics.

[thepest]

^ I'm tired of saying "I can't wait!" but there it is...I can't wait! :)

Damn I wish I could be at teh Geneva motor show, too!

looks pretty good btw, I and like 'hem wheels as well!

[ViperASR]

That is soo much better looking than the regular 3-series

[chest3r]

^ I'm tired of saying "I can't wait!" but there it is...I can't wait! :)

Make it two :D

Those wheels are ugly as hell.

If the car will be like that one, the only differences to the normal 3 series coupe will be the wheels, front and rear bumper and exhausts. I rather prefer a much more aggressive thing. Maybe in the CSL, I hope 8)

[blue8]

:shock: can't wait for the new M3!! BTW, which will come out first: the sedan or the coupe

[TopGearNL]

Those wheels are shite. I must say, I'm still somewhat doubtful about its looks but hopefully BMW will surprise me when they finally reveal the completed version.


BTW, when is the geneva show?

Wheels are indeed ugly!

Geneva Motorshow is next week so I believe.

[TopGearNL]

Geneva Motorshow is next week so I believe.

The Geneva show is always at the beggining of March - I don't know in Holland... but here in Barcelona there're still 4 months to go :P :D

Oops :oops:

The Zurich Motorshow is next week, got mixt up 8)

[ae86_16v]

That's only if it is slated for the 2008 Model Year. . . who knows, maybe it will be a MY2009.

[DeMoN]

m3s are always close to the coupes so i dont see what all the fuzz is. I am more interested on performance stats at this point.

[Sir_GT]

That is soo much better looking than the regular 3-series

Yup. I have to agree.

Now it's almost as if the regular 3-series is the "girly" version of the car.

[chest3r]

The 4-door 3 series is already a great looking car (speacially the front ). The best from the segment.

When I first saw the coupe I was disapointed, but now I think it looks great too. 8)

[rave426]

BMW better hurry with the realease of the new M3, because the hp wars are getting too close to try to wow people with a 400-420 hp car. Hell a second hand GTO with 400hp can be bought for 20K.

Hopefully it is taking so long, because they realize this and they are revamping their the power capability. Maybe we will see a 420-450hp M3. If not, they might see ppl opt for an upcoming 500hp LS7 Camaro.

We will see..................I will hold faith......because I want one.

[Shinigami]

People are not going to "opt" for a 500hp Camaro.

When there's a BMW being offered, there's always people willing to take the BMW marque over something American.

[ferrarif1fan89]

People are not going to "opt" for a 500hp Camaro.

When there's a BMW being offered, there's always people willing to take the BMW marque over something American.

especially since its a given that the thing will leave the camaro in the dust as far as handling, quality, practicality, and probably acceleration if its light enough.

[bmagni]

M3 Sedan

http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/5814/02uo2.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/5188/03ct7.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/8626/04qu3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[Sir_GT]

^^^ IIRC, stan.

[dutchmasterflex]

Slick disguise..You can barely notice the added "power bulges".. Good thing there's a shot of the quad pipes and beefed up differential with the heat fins.

[rave426]

I disagree........... some younger people who can afford and M3 but also like to have the power on the block..........just may opt for a cheaper more powerful car. The M3 will not lose sales, because it has a cult behind it, but if it only sports 400hp, people who though about buying it before may just decline the offer.

Also, I am mainly speaking of Americans, because we have the best choice of high horsepower cars for not alot of cash. 45K - 500hp that can out accelerate a 55-60K 400hp car.........you bet people will go for the cheaper one. You have to remember that here in the US, most people just want stop light speed. When the E46 M3 was realeased it was definatly a bechmark, and could beat most cars on the road in my opinion. But if the E92 is underpowered it wont have the same effect. Time will tell

[Sir_GT]

I disagree........... some younger people who can afford and M3 but also like to have the power on the block..........just may opt for a cheaper more powerful car. The M3 will not lose sales, because it has a cult behind it, but if it only sports 400hp, people who though about buying it before may just decline the offer.

Also, I am mainly speaking of Americans, because we have the best choice of high horsepower cars for not alot of cash. 45K - 500hp that can out accelerate a 55-60K 400hp car.........you bet people will go for the cheaper one. You have to remember that here in the US, most people just want stop light speed. When the E46 M3 was realeased it was definatly a bechmark, and could beat most cars on the road in my opinion. But if the E92 is underpowered it wont have the same effect. Time will tell

Fair point. But people who can afford an M3 will most likely be more than aware about why they're buying an M3 over a cheaper, higher-powered car.

People who are in the 45k bracket will definitely find reasons why they shouldn't shell out an extra 10-15k for an M3.

[bmagni]

almost no camo:

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[TopGearNL]

/\/\ :shock:

[chest3r]

:drool: :drool:

But I'm not really sure about those wheels :roll:

[Sir_GT]

^^^ Agreed.

But... you can order any set of rims through the dealership anyway. That M3 + M6 rims? Oh shite. 8)

[dutchmasterflex]

Yeah those wheels are so boring... I doubt those are going to be the on the production model.

Looks pretty good.. but they are still hiding all of the usual M3 power bulges and styling . I really want to see one compared to a regular E92.

[TopGearNL]

That M3 + M6 rims? Oh shite. 8)

Hell yeah!! :twisted:

I bet that we'll see lots of M3 with those wheels... :D it's the perfect combination IMO. BTW, today I've see my first two E92 coupes... and God they're beautiful! :D

Good combination indeed! :D

[davide]

Listen up, more pictures of the new V8 M3 !
right here:
http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=13257

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[gobs3z]

^^you're a page too late :wink:

[davide]

^^
ah crap, and I thought I checked... :oops:

[Just_me]

http://img354.imageshack.us/img354/2539/e90m31be0.jpg
http://img354.imageshack.us/img354/2539/e90m31be0.jpg
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[Pehtren]

V8 which revs more than 8k :love:

[dutchmasterflex]

^ I didnt even notice that ;) Should sound just as nice as the M5..

Shifter looks like it could be SMG or Manual.. and STILL camoflauge on the hood... but I guess it can't be too different than how it looks now.

Nice to see the 4 door M3 is back too!

[ae86_16v]

^ I didnt even notice that ;) Should sound just as nice as the M5..

Shifter looks like it could be SMG or Manual.. and STILL camoflauge on the hood... but I guess it can't be too different than how it looks now.

Nice to see the 4 door M3 is back too!

Z could confirm this, but it looks like the SMG shifter from the new E70 X5?

[Just_me]

there are rumours that M3 is being tested with a new type of gearbox, could it be DSG?

[ae86_16v]

The new M3 will debut at next September's Frankfurt auto show. The Sydney Morning Herald reports that BMW M boss Ulrich Bruhnke confirmed the date while at the launch of the M6 convertible in southern France last September. "The Frankfurt International Motor Show is so important [to BMW] we must show it there," he said. The fourth-generation M3, based on the E90 3 Series Coupe, will be powered by a four-liter V8 producing about 400 horsepower.

[ZfrkS62]

^ I didnt even notice that ;) Should sound just as nice as the M5..

Shifter looks like it could be SMG or Manual.. and STILL camoflauge on the hood... but I guess it can't be too different than how it looks now.

Nice to see the 4 door M3 is back too!

Z could confirm this, but it looks like the SMG shifter from the new E70 X5?

Having finally been able to look at the E70 in the metal, they did some weird shit to the shifter :? It's not an SMG like i though it would be based on the shifter. It's a regular automatic with some funky ergonomics. I haven't had a chance to sit around and play with any of it yet though.

[Stoopie]

Good looking car, IMO :D I'd have one! But then again, I'd have almost anything with a V8 in it. :mrgreen:

[Sir_GT]

Man... 8000rpm... it's a fucking motorbike.

I can't wait to hear that thing go full throttle. Must be insane.

[rave426]

Did anybody not happen to see the M6 wheels on the mule car above......................Unless I am late. (or is that photoshop)

That looks insane :drool:


Edit

Maybe that isnt a mule, but just a 335.........

[chest3r]

September !?!? Damn!!! :(

I hope to see the first official pics before summer :roll:

[Just_me]

A concept car will be shown in Geneva. Dont belive anything else you read.

Also the official M3 will be shown in white colour

[chest3r]

AAlso the official M3 will be shown in white colour

:faint: :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool:

You shouldn't have said that....

[HeilSvenska]

Also the official M3 will be shown in white colour

I can't wait to see that!

and...

M3 Sedan gets coupe front???
http://img63.imageshack.us/img63/2537/1dec21m3sedanoi0.th.jpg (http://img63.imageshack.us/my.php?image=1dec21m3sedanoi0.jpg)

[ae86_16v]

A concept car will be shown in Geneva. Dont belive anything else you read.

Also the official M3 will be shown in white colour

The new M3 will debut at next September's Frankfurt auto show. The Sydney Morning Herald reports that BMW M boss Ulrich Bruhnke confirmed the date while at the launch of the M6 convertible in southern France last September. "The Frankfurt International Motor Show is so important [to BMW] we must show it there," he said. The fourth-generation M3, based on the E90 3 Series Coupe, will be powered by a four-liter V8 producing about 400 horsepower.

Well, we have a source here saying that the car will debut it at Frankfurt.

[HeilSvenska]

A concept car will be shown in Geneva. Dont belive anything else you read.

Also the official M3 will be shown in white colour

The new M3 will debut at next September's Frankfurt auto show. The Sydney Morning Herald reports that BMW M boss Ulrich Bruhnke confirmed the date while at the launch of the M6 convertible in southern France last September. "The Frankfurt International Motor Show is so important [to BMW] we must show it there," he said. The fourth-generation M3, based on the E90 3 Series Coupe, will be powered by a four-liter V8 producing about 400 horsepower.

Well, we have a source here saying that the car will debut it at Frankfurt.

Like it was discussed above, if it's going to be at Geneva, it's going to be a "Concept M3", like they did with the M5. No real point to it except for telling people that they should write their checks (cheques) now. So the production version will be at Frankfurt.

[Just_me]

like I said, a Concept car in Geneva and the final version in Frankfurt.

[ae86_16v]

A concept car will be shown in Geneva. Dont belive anything else you read.

Also the official M3 will be shown in white colour

The new M3 will debut at next September's Frankfurt auto show. The Sydney Morning Herald reports that BMW M boss Ulrich Bruhnke confirmed the date while at the launch of the M6 convertible in southern France last September. "The Frankfurt International Motor Show is so important [to BMW] we must show it there," he said. The fourth-generation M3, based on the E90 3 Series Coupe, will be powered by a four-liter V8 producing about 400 horsepower.

Well, we have a source here saying that the car will debut it at Frankfurt.

Like it was discussed above, if it's going to be at Geneva, it's going to be a "Concept M3", like they did with the M5. No real point to it except for telling people that they should write their checks (cheques) now. So the production version will be at Frankfurt.

like I said, a Concept car in Geneva and the final version in Frankfurt.

The article I posted by Roundel didn't mention anything about a concept car. . . it just mentioned that the M3 will debut in Germany at Frankfurt because it is important to BMW.

So yes the concept car might debut in Geneva, but it looks like the production version will debut in Frankfurt, as the article pointed out.

[HeilSvenska]

Hahahhahaa. I know! That's what we've been trying to tell you! Ahahhahahahha. This is silly.

[ae86_16v]

Hahahhahaa. I know! That's what we've been trying to tell you! Ahahhahahahha. This is silly.

:D

[ae86_16v]

M3 Sedan gets coupe front???
http://img63.imageshack.us/img63/2537/1dec21m3sedanoi0.th.jpg (http://img63.imageshack.us/my.php?image=1dec21m3sedanoi0.jpg)

Now that is interesting indeed. . . I wonder if only the M3 will get it or if the Sedan will get updated to the Coupe front end as well? Maybe this is one of those Life Cycle Impluse(s) that Z was talking about?

[blue8]

i'm not really sure about this... but weren't their plans to make all BMW coupes even-numbered cars (like the 6-series instead of a 5-series coupe)? probably the coupe was initially slated as the 4-series (hence looking different) but since that plan was scrapped, they have to make the sedan and coupe look similar :?

[ae86_16v]

i'm not really sure about this... but weren't their plans to make all BMW coupes even-numbered cars (like the 6-series instead of a 5-series coupe)? probably the coupe was initially slated as the 4-series (hence looking different) but since that plan was scrapped, they have to make the sedan and coupe look similar :?

Well the E46's coupe and sedan were different too. . .