Panning action shots (post pictures, and suggestions etc.)

[nthfinity]

http://nthimage.energywise-group.com/street_sightings/panning.htm

each one is different... and i think it will help improve the quality of photos during photoshoots, and street sightings etc.

http://nthimage.energywise-group.com/street_sightings/update_3/Cadillac_CTS_V_1.jpg

this one the point of focus is behind the front wheel well, and really, looks terrible... one interesting thing about it, however, is its become a super-wide looking shot.

http://nthimage.energywise-group.com/street_sightings/update_3/honda_S2000_1.jpg

this one might have faired better if the focus was at, or slightly above the front wheel... but, the front facia is quite sharp.... ultimately, its a loss IMO.

http://nthimage.energywise-group.com/street_sightings/update_3/Nissan_350Z_2.jpg

this one is nearly as good as it can be (with no IS) the one problem is the rear end is cut off the frame. its interesting how the perspective distorts what is not in focus (the front wheel) as it's angle reletive to me is approaching perpindicular... an interesting effect; and doesnt lose the character of the car. id like to increase my abilities with this shot.

http://nthimage.energywise-group.com/street_sightings/update_3/Nissan_350Z_1.jpg

this one the fucus isn't quite clear, but the shot isn't all bad in my opinion; the suv in the way ruins the shot to some degree. a sightly higer ISO, or more open aperature could've reduced post-processing grain.

http://nthimage.energywise-group.com/street_sightings/update_3/Porsche_996_911_cabriolet_1.jpg
this one, the point of focus is the front overhang, quite clearly... but the level of distortion over the rear makes this one quite terrible IMO. this time, the angle approaches 180 degrees reletive to me. it may have been helped if tried to hit it closer to perpindicular, or while approaching me and hitting the front overhang.

[Toronto]

tried some last year @ the f1 race
kinda of hard for where is was sitting (really tight)
but my first try was bad. 2nd time kinda worked
http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/3204/pan4en.jpg

first try
http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/7341/pan28mf.jpg

this year i hope to do better... :(

[GRiP_DRiVER]

The way I've always done it is take pictures with just about every setting you have on your camera. Write down what you did in each picture. Then go from there.

[nthfinity]

^^^^
well, with changing light; and styles of panning a moving subject... you'll have a different result each time. if you can hone a style... im just giving my recent examples, and i'd like to see others' examples, and descriptions on how they did it.

of course, i'd be more hten happy to elaborate on any picture i take etc.

[TT]

Not wanting to be rude, but nth, all the ones you posted are basically too blurry to be considered as "good" pics :) Basically it was just too dark and shutter speed too low to get good results ;)
IMO even with an IS you can't go much lower than 1/80 or 1/60 for a panning shot. Usually I don't bother about F and I shoot in shutter speed priority when doing panning shots, and indeed I work between 1/60 and 1/100, depending on the speed of the car. Of course the car has to be driven at constant speed for better results ;9
For sure they are artistic, but there is no sharp point at all in them
Your RX8 picture is much better for instance ;)

Here is a couple of mine.. the only way to achieve good results with slow shutter speed is to have an IS (I am pretty shaky myself) and to be in control of the situation: beeing able to shoot many pics with the car passing by many times at a constant speed

These ones were 1/80 but to get them right I had to take a ton of pics, even with IS (car traveling at around 100 kmh)
http://www.swisscarsightings.com/audi/thumbs/Audi%20TT%20V6%20008.jpg (http://www.swisscarsightings.com/audi/Audi%20TT%20V6%20008.jpg) http://img127.imagevenue.com/loc190/th_79021_Maserati_Quattroporte_V_319.jpg (http://img127.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc190&image=79021_Maserati_Quattroporte_V_319.jpg)

1/100 but when you shoot a 3/4 panning shot of course only the point you are following is sharp.. usually the front, and the backend is usally blurry.. it's due to the angle, but I suppose the quicker the shutter speed, the better.. but you'll end up with less sense of speed.. so...
http://www.swisscarsightings.com/audi/thumbs/Audi%20RS4%20125.jpg (http://www.swisscarsightings.com/audi/Audi%20RS4%20125.jpg) http://www.swisscarsightings.com/audi/thumbs/Audi%20RS4%20134.jpg (http://www.swisscarsightings.com/audi/Audi%20RS4%20134.jpg) http://www.swisscarsightings.com/audi/thumbs/Audi%20RS4%20130.jpg (http://www.swisscarsightings.com/audi/Audi%20RS4%20130.jpg)

Again 1/100 and cars traveling at a constant 80 kmh ... for my style and my preferences, 80 to 100 kmh and 1/80 1/100 is perfect.. 1/60 would be even better, but too hard to have a good shot :D
http://img129.imagevenue.com/loc24/th_78546_astra80.jpg (http://img129.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc24&image=78546_astra80.jpg)http://img37.imagevenue.com/loc24/th_78551_focus80.jpg (http://img37.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc24&image=78551_focus80.jpg)http://img15.imagevenue.com/loc24/th_78561_megane80.jpg (http://img15.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc24&image=78561_megane80.jpg)

BTW, I find very difficult to take panning shots of cars from the rear, ence going away from me.. I never seem to pick a good focusing point and to keep it steady :roll:

[nthfinity]

Not wanting to be rude, but nth, all the ones you posted are basically too blurry to be considered as "good" pics Basically it was just too dark and shutter speed too low to get good results

no offence taken; i think they are crap too (what i posted about each one) the only thing i really liked about them was its quite clear where the distortion is; and where it happens/what to expect. thanks for your wright up with your shots; i think it'll help me, and others when hunting cars. 8) :D

[MIHALS]

Many thanx TT, I will remember your advices!!! they will be very helpful very soon on very nice place to use :wink:

appreciate your time for explanation :good: :D

edit: I'm registered on one site dedicated to photography and there is one guy, who attends rally races. I asked him about the shutter times some time ago and he told me about 1/125 - 1/250s, faster curves 1/250 - 1/320s
this shot is 1/60s
http://ladak.la-ky.net/albums/userpics/10001/IMG_4348.jpg

and this one is 1/100s
http://ladak.la-ky.net/albums/userpics/10001/pelhrimov05vojtech_t2.jpg

[SDK2003]

Yeah, if the car is travelling quick then you ideally need 1/125 - 1/250. Going too slow on the shutter just means blurry pics.

I took this at 1/250 at 100mm (not cropped)

http://www.ph-digitalphotography-motorsports.com/images/sports/bmw-m3-csl-side.jpg

[Toronto]

^^^ the rims in that shot are amazing :clap:

[sameerrao]

Here are some of my panning shots at Laguna Seca - Monterey Historics:

Aston DBR1
http://img107.imageshack.us/img107/554/dscn00026jw.th.jpg (http://img107.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dscn00026jw.jpg)

Ferrari Testarossa
http://img212.imageshack.us/img212/482/dscn00017cz.th.jpg (http://img212.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dscn00017cz.jpg)

Maserati Birdcage
http://img212.imageshack.us/img212/7180/dscn00130ls.th.jpg (http://img212.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dscn00130ls.jpg)

In general, I find that I can get the panning shot best if I tilt the camera about 45 degrees to the left or right so thet the car is in the middle of the diamond and follow the car for quite a bit so that the camera can get a good read of the car's speed. The first two pictures are using this technique.

I use the automatic settings and pray for the best. :) NO manual settings - I am a neophyte :)

I find this technique really helps with filming F1 cars that are so friggin fast, half of my shots have only parts of the car and not the whole because I was too slow to keep up with it. :)

[TT]

Tilting the camera can be a nice trick, but you should then try to put the pics straight or anyway less tilted afterward (PS or whatever). aren't they a bit too tilted like they are? I often use the same technique every now and then but usually I straighten then a little bit or completely while I edit them ;)

BTW, an IMPORTANT detail when we talk about fast cars. you need good lenses, period: i tried to shoot "quick" cars with my EF 70-300 mm F4.5/5.6 IS and although quite quick for a not-L lense, the difference there is with any of the L I tested is AMAZING and definitely on track you need a very quick lenses at that because "cheap" ones will always be a bit late, or most of the time anyway.

[sameerrao]

Thanks TT, one of these days I will be buying an SLR camera and I will be depending on you for some good advice for camera and lenses that are well suited for taking racing pictures... :)

[mrai]

Sorry to bring this topic up again, seems pointless to start a new thread. Anyways i always wanted to try panning shots but im confused what mode do i put it on?! The camera i have is a Canon EOS 350D SLR.

Appreciate the help guys.

[sentra_dude]

Sorry to bring this topic up again, seems pointless to start a new thread. Anyways i always wanted to try panning shots but im confused what mode do i put it on?! The camera i have is a Canon EOS 350D SLR.

Appreciate the help guys.

There is a setting called "Shutter Priority", for my SLR, its an "S" on the round dial, I'm guessing the same for Canons. This allows you to set the Shutter speed...you have to experiment to find a good one, depends on the situation, etc...and the camera automatically picks the best aperture to get the exposure.

I guess if you are really hardcore you could do full manual, but "S" is the best I think.

TT, is the expert, he will probably pipe in too... ;) :P

[mrai]

Thank you for your help, appreciate but i just took a peak at the camera there is no 'S' on the dial, i think its a different one, 'AV'?! Anyways thanks again, hope TT can fill me in.

[sameerrao]

On the Nikon, you have another option apart from the shutter priority mode - Program mode, you can rotate the command dial to all the various shutter speed and aperture combinations that give the same exposure.

Example, if F8 and 1/250 make it correctly exposed, then rotating the dial one way will take you to F5.6 and 1/500 or rotate it in the other direction for F11 and 1/125.

Basically it seems to do away with the need for the aperture priority or shutter priority mode. Or am I missing something :)

[sameerrao]

Thank you for your help, appreciate but i just took a peak at the camera there is no 'S' on the dial, i think its a different one, 'AV'?! Anyways thanks again, hope TT can fill me in.

TV mode = Shutter priority

Dumb naming convention :)

[MartijnGizmo]

Havn't visited any car-events recently, but here are some of mine:

92mm, 1/80s:
http://www.xs4all.nl/~akoevoet/JW/Panning/IMG_4093.jpg

108mm, 1/100s:
http://www.xs4all.nl/~akoevoet/JW/Panning/IMG_4094.jpg

70mm, 1/200s:
http://www.xs4all.nl/~akoevoet/JW/Panning/IMG_4101.jpg

168mm, 1/200s:
http://www.xs4all.nl/~akoevoet/JW/Panning/IMG_4144.jpg

168mm, 1/160s:
http://www.xs4all.nl/~akoevoet/JW/Panning/IMG_4145.jpg

200mm, 1/125s:
http://www.xs4all.nl/~akoevoet/JW/Panning/IMG_1175.jpg

18mm, 1/13s:
http://www.xs4all.nl/~akoevoet/JW/Panning/IMG_3083.jpg

[sentra_dude]

Here are a few of mine:

http://i4.tinypic.com/zx4p50.jpg

http://i4.tinypic.com/zx4rbo.jpg

http://i4.tinypic.com/zx4rpw.jpg

[sameerrao]

Fucking awesome Sentra ... the plane landing shots are simply amazing :) 8) 0X

[sentra_dude]

Fucking awesome Sentra ... the plane landing shots are simply amazing :) 8) 0X

Thanks man! 8)

[mrai]

Thank you for your help, appreciate but i just took a peak at the camera there is no 'S' on the dial, i think its a different one, 'AV'?! Anyways thanks again, hope TT can fill me in.

TV mode = Shutter priority

Dumb naming convention :)

ehahaha thanks buddy. Let me get back to Dubai and i ll try it then, hope it works with me.

[mrai]

sentra_dude : Those are some awesome motion shots, love the plane ones and the bikes, but love the police car in action haha excellent pictures, thanks for sharing them. Hope i can achieve your standards.

[SDK2003]

On the Nikon, you have another option apart from the shutter priority mode - Program mode, you can rotate the command dial to all the various shutter speed and aperture combinations that give the same exposure.

Example, if F8 and 1/250 make it correctly exposed, then rotating the dial one way will take you to F5.6 and 1/500 or rotate it in the other direction for F11 and 1/125.

Basically it seems to do away with the need for the aperture priority or shutter priority mode. Or am I missing something :)


Programe Mode is the same as Auto Mode expect you can change a few settings like ISO, White Balance.

Av - Aperture Value
You choose the aperture and the camera auto selects the shutter speed to properly expose the photo.

Tv - Timing Value (S mode on Nikons)
You choose the shutter speed and the camera auto selects the aperture to properly expose the photo.

[nthfinity]

Well, i thought its time i provide some more recent, and improved panning shots i've done :) (from earlier today)
First, we have a Monte Carlo here taken @F9.0/ 1/100th of a second ISO 200
http://Serv1.imagehigh.com/files/ih000001/18866_Chevrolet_Monte_carlo_1.jpg (http://www.imagehigh.com)
This one is nearly the same, but being a white car, i changed it to F10 1/100th of a second with ISO 200.
http://207.210.234.147/imgs/ih000001/4364_Chevrolet_C2_Corvette_1.jpg (http://www.imagehigh.com)

If i can do this good w/out IS... i seriously wonder how awsome IS will improve my "abilities" :LoL: ;)

[sameerrao]

200mm; F5.6; 1/320 sec shot at 1:54pm
http://207.210.234.147/imgs//ih000001/27457__DSC2395.JPG

70mm; F10; 1/400 sec shot at 12:38pm
http://Serv1.imagehigh.com/files//ih000001/14340__DSC2259.JPG

200mm; F3.5; 1/800 sec shot at 2:00 pm --> I had to shoot faster to capture the sparks
http://Serv1.imagehigh.com/files//ih000001/23410__DSC2424.JPG

85mm; F2.8; 1/250 sec shot at 8:23 pm - this was in a darker section of the circuit - good for picking up the glowing brakes
http://207.210.234.147/imgs//ih000001/26172__DSC3491.JPG

200mm; F2.8; 1/250 sec shot at 8:27 pm
http://207.210.234.147/imgs//ih000001/16650__DSC3520.JPG

200mm; F2.8; 1/250 sec shot at 8:24 pm
http://Serv1.imagehigh.com/files//ih000001/11062__DSC3494.JPG

[nthfinity]

if only the last few had a bit more exposure... and well, the first few had more exposure (higher aperature too).

granted, its very hard to follow the sheer speeds of race cars! the first two shots are incredibly sharp!

thanks for sharing :)

[sentra_dude]

sentra_dude : Those are some awesome motion shots, love the plane ones and the bikes, but love the police car in action haha excellent pictures, thanks for sharing them. Hope i can achieve your standards.

Wow, thanks dude! I'll admit, I'm pretty proud of the airplane shot. :D :P

I used 1/30sec for that shot, and did pretty much zero editing in PS, except for re-sizing. Definitely tough to get a clear shot with a plane going 80mph, and free-hand, but looks cool when it works...




Sameerrao, the glowing brakes are awesome, a really great catch! The Audi scraping is cool too :shock: is that supposed to happen?!

Are those pics from another topic...? I'd like to see the rest of those, and btw, it looks like you had a good position to shoot from, where were you situated?

[TT]

Good shots guys, but remember, much easier to have a sharp pic when resized to 600 or 800 :P bring on the high-res so we can proprely judge ;)

[sameerrao]

Sameerrao, the glowing brakes are awesome, a really great catch! The Audi scraping is cool too :shock: is that supposed to happen?!

Are those pics from another topic...? I'd like to see the rest of those, and btw, it looks like you had a good position to shoot from, where were you situated?

See here: http://www.motorworld.net/forum/showthread.php?t=39510 --> there is a link provided in post #1

I moved around the track to take pictures from different locations. As long as you had a grandstand ticket they let you cruise thru the stands. Besides it wasnt that crowded anyway.

The Audi was scraping on the many bumps on the circuit. I asked Allan McNish, who was driving the car, about it - he jokingly remarked that it was just a way to make the car loose weight. :lol: The Audi was like a battle tank - damn that car is good. Along with the Porsche 956/962 it is perhaps the greatest prototype ever from a wins standpoint.

For all the good glowing pics that I got (about 6) I threw away about 50 pictures - it was tough shooting because the cars were really fast into the corner and weren't braking for more than 2 seconds or so. Also, some drivers (read better) like Seb. Bourdais did not make the brakes glow as much but were still faster on a lap time. They must be metering their braking very precisely. 8)


There are about 300 pictures in the link provided in Post #1

Good shots guys, but remember, much easier to have a sharp pic when resized to 600 or 800 bring on the high-res so we can proprely judge

Admit it TT you are just a wee bit jealous :P
http://img58.imageshack.us/img58/3948/dsc34944dg.th.jpg (http://img58.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc34944dg.jpg)http://img58.imageshack.us/img58/6296/dsc34910rv.th.jpg (http://img58.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc34910rv.jpg)http://img58.imageshack.us/img58/8430/dsc22598vk.th.jpg (http://img58.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc22598vk.jpg)http://img58.imageshack.us/img58/9761/dsc35204he.th.jpg (http://img58.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc35204he.jpg)http://img58.imageshack.us/img58/9752/dsc17706jr.th.jpg (http://img58.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc17706jr.jpg)
http://img58.imageshack.us/img58/3711/dsc18038zk.th.jpg (http://img58.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc18038zk.jpg)http://img58.imageshack.us/img58/5743/dsc23957wt.th.jpg (http://img58.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc23957wt.jpg)http://img58.imageshack.us/img58/7238/dsc17634io.th.jpg (http://img58.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc17634io.jpg)

If you notice on a couple of shots you can see the fence pretty clearly in the image - I tried to increase the aperture to F9 to make the fence disappear but wasn't successful. The fence was about 30 feet from me and the car about 10 feet beyond - basically the fence and car are pretty close to each other and both are relatively the same distance away from me. Anyone knows how I can make the fence less obvious or is it a poor location to shoot from.

[nthfinity]

the Porsche GT3 racecar is otherwise an Amazing shot!!!

or is it a poor location to shoot from.

bingo :?
the Porsche GT3 racecar is otherwise an Amazing shot!!!

[SDK2003]

The photo of the Aston and Porsche is sharp but it's not a panning shot.
The other images look too soft for me, good effort though.

[nthfinity]

Good shots guys, but remember, much easier to have a sharp pic when resized to 600 or 800 :P bring on the high-res so we can proprely judge ;)
http://Serv1.imagehigh.com/files/ih000001/32680_Chevrolet_C2_Corvette_1.th.jpg (http://Serv1.imagehigh.com/view.php?id=32680_Chevrolet_C2_Corvette_1.jpg&path=/files/ih000001) http://207.210.234.147/imgs/ih000001/29317_Chevrolet_Monte_carlo_1.th.jpg (http://207.210.234.147/view.php?id=29317_Chevrolet_Monte_carlo_1.jpg&path=/imgs/ih000001)

:wink:

[TT]

Thanks for the big ones. Indeed saamer's aren't really perfectly sharp, but it's pretty close anyway!
nth's especially the second, are spot on even at 1600, which is perfect :)

IMO resizing at 1024 (let alone smaller) and sharpening an image does the trick most of the time, but when it's ok at 1600 it means it was really a good one

[sameerrao]

A touch of USM to help things along. ;) I didnt do it originally because it was increasing the emphasis to the fence as well.

http://img58.imageshack.us/img58/3096/dsc17635rb.th.jpg (http://img58.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc17635rb.jpg)

[mrai]

sameerrao : Sweet pictures dude. Sadly i need to get a better lense for my canon 350D, recommend anything good?! In the meantime im using the standard canon 350D lense, kind of sucks but i ll practise when i go back home end of this month.

[TT]

70-300 F4.5-5.6 IS. very good quality for a relatively speaking low price! Of course not suited if you need wide angle :D

[mrai]

Cheers TT, i ll check that out :)

[nthfinity]

sameerrao : Sweet pictures dude. Sadly i need to get a better lense for my canon 350D, recommend anything good?! In the meantime im using the standard canon 350D lense, kind of sucks but i ll practise when i go back home end of this month.

that is what i've been "stuck" with for almost a year now... that and a cheap telephoto from quantaray 100-300 m F4.5-5.6

while i've learned some secrets to extract the most out of that lens... its also a terribly limiting factor... the autofocus is crap for moving objects if you aren't "expecting it to work that way" and is way too soft at anything above 200mm.

my recomendation is to not buy anything less then the Canon 70-300 IS F4.5 for telephoto, and perhaps the canon 17-85 IS as you get more aclimated to what your camera can do :)

Thanks for the big ones. Indeed saamer's aren't really perfectly sharp, but it's pretty close anyway!
nth's especially the second, are spot on even at 1600, which is perfect :)

IMO resizing at 1024 (let alone smaller) and sharpening an image does the trick most of the time, but when it's ok at 1600 it means it was really a good one :)

[MartijnGizmo]

So, I went to the Nürburgring Nordschleife last sunday, the first time I really got a chance to shoot some decent cars.

Here's a small sneek-peak:
http://www.xs4all.nl/~akoevoet/JW/Panning/IMG_1616.JPG

And for the partypoopers, a 100% crop:
http://www.xs4all.nl/~akoevoet/JW/Panning/IMG_1616crop.jpg

[EnzoLover]

Nice shot!

[nthfinity]

:shock: WOW MartijnGizmo , what a magnificent shot!

another new panning shot of mine for earlier today

F8.0 1/50 sec. ISO 400 @ 100 mm
http://Serv3.imagehigh.com/imgs/01/27279_Cobra_V2.th.jpg (http://Serv3.imagehigh.com/view.php?id=27279_Cobra_V2.jpg&path=/imgs/01/)

[sameerrao]

Great shot Martijn. I think you can give SDK2003 some close competition in action photography.

SDK IMO is the best action shooter here, very closely followed by C0wb0y007 and Wuttputt who have provided awesome N-ring shots.

I can learn a lot just by seeing their shots and trying to emulate the same... :)

[MartijnGizmo]

Great shot Martijn. I think you can give SDK2003 some close competition in action photography.

Thanks a lot! This was my first real try at it, so I think there's still a lot of room for improvement. :)

[No.1]

Great shot Martijn. I think you can give SDK2003 some close competition in action photography.

Thanks a lot! This was my first real try at it, so I think there's still a lot of room for improvement. :)

I love that picture - i was wondering if there was a chance of you posting a hi-res for my desktop?

Roughly 1600*XXXX should do the job.

Amazing colours - vivid contrast of the car and greenery 8)

[c0wb0y007]

As you already know I'm a big of panning shots as well.
The shutterspeed depends on how fast your object moves, the faster they move and the lower you go on the shutterspeed the blurrier your pics will be. Or you have a very very steady hand :) I have taken panningshots from 1/60 to up to 1/320 but I prefer 1/200. Here are a few examples.

M3GTR: Taken @ 1/200
http://users.pandora.be/jokke1/Photography/B.Cars/24-hours%20Nurburgring_2005/Nr%202%20BMW%20M3%20GTR%201024%20.jpg


Lotus Elise 1: Taken @ 1/80
http://users.pandora.be/jokke1/Photography/B.Cars/Track%20Day%2027-08-2005/Bart%20Lotus%20Elise%204.jpg

Lotus Elise 2: Taken @ 1/80
http://users.pandora.be/jokke1/Photography/B.Cars/Track%20Day%2027-08-2005/Lotus%20Elise%202.jpg

Viper Zakspeed Racing: Taken @ 1/200 High Res
http://users.pandora.be/jokke1/Photography/B.Cars/VLN%202005/DSC_7478%20Nr%2066%20Viper.jpg

VW Bora TDI: Taken @ 1/160 High Res
http://users.pandora.be/jokke1/Photography/B.Cars/VLN%202005/DSC_6485%20Nr%20333%20VW%20Bora%20TDI%20lr.jpg

Enjoy the pics


Cheers

[MartijnGizmo]

I prefer 1/125 on the 70-200, but just for kicks I tried 1/25th with my 10-22. :)

Here's the pic in 1600:
http://img124.imageshack.us/img124/8126/img16167si.th.jpg (http://img124.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img16167si.jpg)

[No.1]

I prefer 1/125 on the 70-200, but just for kicks I tried 1/25th with my 10-22. :)

Here's the pic in 1600:
http://img124.imageshack.us/img124/8126/img16167si.th.jpg (http://img124.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img16167si.jpg)

Amazing :good:

Thanks a lot, dude 8)

[SDK2003]

SDK IMO is the best action shooter here

:shock:

Thanks for the mention :)
I have put a huge effort over the last 2 years in developing my photography skills. I still have some way to go but it's good that people like my photos.

The BMW M3 photo posted by MartijnGizmo is very good and I would imagine the owner would buy that as a print.

[sameerrao]

^^ no problem your Superbike shots are out of the world.

[c0wb0y007]

MartijnGizmo,

That M3 shot is a stunning picture and I share SDK's opinion as well, if the owner sees your pic he will probably buy it as well. It's really worth the effort try taking pannings at 1/25 and it might be duable as well. A lot of practise will pay off and if you look at your pictures it cristal clear that you know what you're doing 8) Nice one.

I have sold pics before by showing the owner the photos on the lcd screen, I once showed a porsche driver a few of my pics, the first thing he asked me was how much he had to pay for them :D Easy money :!: :wink:

Keep up the good work guys

Cheers

[P_Zero_Rosso]

I'm a rookie concerning panning shots so every feedback is welcome :fadein:
After about 10 passings (my gf was getting bored) I got this shot using 1/60, F9, spot metering.
Question for the Nikon users: what kind of AF area mode do you use?

http://img134.imagevenue.com/loc117/th_13679_cadillacBLS.jpg (http://img134.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc117&image=13679_cadillacBLS.jpg)

[c0wb0y007]

P_Zero_Rosso,

That panningshot isn't that bad at all, it's a nice image in fact. It depends on what you like yourself as well. When it comes to panningshots I like to see the car being very sharp. But that's just mine humble opinion.

As being a Nikon user myself I always set the AF-mode on AF-S. You have a AF-C as well and that's as you may know Continuous AutoFocus mode. I never use this due to it is often too slow to end up with sharp images. I have no idea how it's like on the D2hs and the D2x. The thing I have read about this AF-C mode is, that it has to be very very good on the D2hs.

I guess it also has to with how you are use to shoot your pannings. I always pre-focus and when the car passes by you can clearly see when it comes into the sharp area. I have tested to shoot on AF-C mode before but I didn't like the results, once you get the hang of it you will see you will hardly miss a panning 8)

Cheers

[sameerrao]

Here are some panning shots with the new VR ... first roadtest of the lens .. so I am sure I will get better as I get used to it ..

Shots of my S4 ... my friend was driving very slow - 25mph - as it was a park area. I was forced to use very slow shutter speeds to blur out the wheels. I am not fully happy with the results. The car seems like it is doing 120 mph though ... LOL!!!
EXIF: 90mm-F22- 1/30 sec
http://img58.imageshack.us/img58/9555/dsc39538io.th.jpg (http://img58.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc39538io.jpg)http://img58.imageshack.us/img58/3163/dsc39629th.th.jpg (http://img58.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc39629th.jpg)http://img58.imageshack.us/img58/6218/dsc39648qk.th.jpg (http://img58.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc39648qk.jpg)http://img58.imageshack.us/img58/5751/dsc39561ff.th.jpg (http://img58.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc39561ff.jpg)

But the good thing to note is that the VR kept the image stable despite the slow shutter speed

Next few shots were cars going past at around 50 mph - this was easier for me to shoot as I increase the shutter speed a bit.
70mm-F22-1/60sec
http://img58.imageshack.us/img58/2459/dsc40773rm.th.jpg (http://img58.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc40773rm.jpg)http://img58.imageshack.us/img58/8440/dsc40270ni.th.jpg (http://img58.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc40270ni.jpg)http://img58.imageshack.us/img58/1572/dsc40260sg.th.jpg (http://img58.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc40260sg.jpg)

I bet the lens will do really well when I take it to a race....

[sameerrao]

Question for the Nikon users: what kind of AF area mode do you use?


I think I used both the Spot and the Dynamic area mode in my D50

[SDK2003]

Have you guys separated focus and metering from the shutter button ?

On my 20D I use the * button on the back of the camera to focus - I keep it held for focus tracking.
The shutter button sets the exposure at the time the shot is taken and it doesn't lock the exposure. So as I'm panning the camera with the shutter button held down the exposure is updated with the changing light conditions.

If you have focus and exposure set on the shutter button then the moment you hold the shutter button to start focus tracking the exposure is also locked and I guarantee that the light conditions will be different when you actually take the shot.

[nthfinity]

Have you guys separated focus and metering from the shutter button ?

On my 20D I use the * button on the back of the camera to focus - I keep it held for focus tracking.
The shutter button sets the exposure at the time the shot is taken and it doesn't lock the exposure. So as I'm panning the camera with the shutter button held down the exposure is updated with the changing light conditions.

If you have focus and exposure set on the shutter button then the moment you hold the shutter button to start focus tracking the exposure is also locked and I guarantee that the light conditions will be different when you actually take the shot.
hmm.... i never actually noticed that before... but I often change which metering mode im in with the button beside it.

does the button work in M, Av, and Tv modes then as a separate focusing measure?

[HeilSvenska]

These are my first attempts at panning shots. Constructive criticisms are always welcome.

I used my cheap basic camera as I can't afford a new one. I don't remember the settings, although I did fiddle with them.

http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/343/mustang9vj.th.jpg (http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/343/mustang9vj.jpg)
I hate drifting, but I do like this picture very much.

The locations weren't very good. My friend and I are trying to procure press passes somehow next year.
http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/1492/gmg5sx.th.jpg (http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/1492/gmg5sx.jpg)http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/1008/indeck6dt.th.jpg (http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/1008/indeck6dt.jpg)http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/9223/aussie20ma.th.jpg (http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/9223/aussie20ma.jpg)
http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/3913/aussie3lt.th.jpg (http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/3913/aussie3lt.jpg)http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/8931/s3uz.th.jpg (http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/8931/s3uz.jpg)http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/6195/optium15to.th.jpg (http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/6195/optium15to.jpg)

[P_Zero_Rosso]

On the D70 you got 3 different metering modes (the how part)
• 3D Matrix metering
• Center Weighted metering
• Spot metering
And 3 different area modes (the where part)
• Single area
• Dynamic area
• Closest subject
Further you can choose single servo auto focus or continuous auto focus

I've shot my pics in spot metering, dynamic area, AF-C but I'll try AF-S ,like cowboy007 suggested, the next time.

[SDK2003]

does the button work in M, Av, and Tv modes then as a separate focusing measure?
Yes, custom function 4.1 or 4.3 or what you need.

[MartijnGizmo]

Thanks for the positive comments, really helps in wanting to further evolve my photographic skills. :) It's only been almost a year ago since I bought my first camera, so I just can't imagine somebody willing to pay for something I created.

Luckily my 30D with the 70-200 f/2.8 L is fast enough in continuous focus to track the cars, just a few were focussed wrong.

Some more:
http://www.xs4all.nl/~akoevoet/JW/Panning/IMG_1622.JPG

http://www.xs4all.nl/~akoevoet/JW/Panning/IMG_1827.JPG

http://www.xs4all.nl/~akoevoet/JW/Panning/IMG_1832.JPG

[nthfinity]

does the button work in M, Av, and Tv modes then as a separate focusing measure?
Yes, custom function 4.1 or 4.3 or what you need.

very cool!

i ought to read more about the custom functions :)

this ought to come in tons and tons of handy :) thanks a lot

[TT]

Martin :good: what about the RS4 in high-res? :) please? :)

Also, that's where L lenses really show their value compared to the rest: continuous focusing with a "cheap" one like the 70-300 IS F4.5/5.6 isn't really quick enough for cars moving faster than 80 kmh

[MartijnGizmo]

Martin :good: what about the RS4 in high-res? :) please? :)

As soon as you call me Martijn. :P

Well, ok, here you go:
http://img158.imageshack.us/img158/5126/img16228lf.th.jpg (http://img158.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img16228lf.jpg)

:)

[TT]

LOL sorry Martijn ;)

And thanks! White really suits the car IMO! Maybe because we are too used to see it in grey or black, but I really love it :!:

[c0wb0y007]

Lets see what I can say about my camera settings:

Firstly, most if the time I'm shooting in program "S". You can adjust almost everything yourself and that's why I like this so much. You have nearly full control over your camera, the only thing you can't set is the aperture.
Secondly, I normally use the 3D matrix metering which is superb!
I adjust the ISO figure only if necersarry, most of the time I shoot on 200 and that's what I prefer as well. The M3 GTR shot, which I have posted before is shot at ISO 500 due to the bad weather. Don't be afraid to use high ISO figures, the pics are a bit noisy from time to time but you don't see any noise at the poster I made of it (dimensions: 90cmx75cm). It's a real clean poster.

Lastly; AF-S vs AF-C.
As said before I prefer AF-S. At the beginning I thought that the AF-C mode was the mode to use when shooting pannings but I wasn't very happy with the result. Only a part of the car tended to have the sharpness I want to see :wink:
I think that the loss of sharpness is a combination of the focus speed and the shutter lag. That are two features where the professional cameras give you an edge forward. They focus faster and have less shutter lag. So, all Nikon users up to the D2x :P :P 8)

Cheers

[No.1]

Well, ok, here you go:
http://img158.imageshack.us/img158/5126/img16228lf.th.jpg (http://img158.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img16228lf.jpg)

:)

Great picture again :good:

The RS4 in white is nice IMO.

(sorry i can't comment more on the photography techniques - i'm a simple point & shoot man :roll: )

[MIHALS]

I can finally share my panning shot taken by cheaper camera, in cloudy, rainy and dark weather - simply the worst light you can get :bah: :)
but I think the picture turned out great when you take in mind it's bad condition and from about 50m far from me...

konica minolta A200 + circular polarizer B&W F-PRO - f/3.2, 1/25s, ISO 50
http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/6490/subaruimpreza040ot.th.jpg (http://img144.imageshack.us/my.php?image=subaruimpreza040ot.jpg)

[dingo]

^ yes, not bad considering.

Here is probably my best panning shot from the previous update.

Taken with Canon 350D and 70-300mm IS lense, 1/200sec, f6.3, ISO100, 75mm. ;)

http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/1503/junetrackday296um.th.jpg (http://img144.imageshack.us/my.php?image=junetrackday296um.jpg)

[sameerrao]

I think it is a fantastic shot Dingo .... Awesome work!!!

[MartijnGizmo]

Ah, I think it's time for me to add some pics:

http://www.xs4all.nl/~akoevoet/GoT/Nordschleife/IMG_1627.JPG

http://www.xs4all.nl/~akoevoet/GoT/Nordschleife/IMG_1784.JPG

http://www.xs4all.nl/~akoevoet/GoT/Nordschleife/IMG_1810.JPG

http://www.xs4all.nl/~akoevoet/GoT/Nordschleife/IMG_1832.JPG

http://www.xs4all.nl/~akoevoet/GoT/Viva%20Italia/IMG_2464.jpg

http://www.xs4all.nl/~akoevoet/GoT/Viva%20Italia/IMG_2531.jpg

http://www.xs4all.nl/~akoevoet/GoT/Viva%20Italia/IMG_2551.jpg

http://www.xs4all.nl/~akoevoet/GoT/Viva%20Italia/IMG_2592.jpg

http://www.xs4all.nl/~akoevoet/GoT/Viva%20Italia/IMG_2639.jpg

http://www.xs4all.nl/~akoevoet/GoT/Viva%20Italia/IMG_2685.jpg

http://www.xs4all.nl/~akoevoet/GoT/Viva%20Italia/IMG_2718.jpg

[sameerrao]

Martijn, can you post the EXIF data for a couple of those pics ... TIA

[MartijnGizmo]

It's included with all pics.....

[sameerrao]

It's included with all pics.....

Got it!! Its available when you d/l it :)

[MartijnGizmo]

Or if you use FireFox with the FxIF plugin, or IE wit Opanda Exif Viewer.

[sameerrao]

Or if you use FireFox with the FxIF plugin, or IE wit Opanda Exif Viewer.

Thanks ... I will Opanda-ing from now on :)

[MIHALS]

wow, that are some really pro shots :shocked!:

great pics as usual Matijn!!! :good:

keep'em coming!!!

[sentra_dude]

MartijnGizmo, some amazing shots you have taken! :D Thanks so much for sharing with us, I really like the grey M3, the Testarossa, and the F40 pics, those are really special. :D

I have a few questions, I assume you are using a polarizer for those shots...? But the main question, its a bit hard to describe, I don't know...how do you get that look?? Is that your contrast?

Like in this pic:
http://www.xs4all.nl/~akoevoet/GoT/Viva%20Italia/IMG_2685.jpg

And also this one:
http://www.xs4all.nl/~akoevoet/GoT/Nordschleife/IMG_1784.JPG

Keep up the good work, and keep posting pics! 8)

[MartijnGizmo]

It's my way of post-processing in Photoshop. I only used a polarizer on the green Coupe Fiat, as you can see from the headlights. It's way to hard to use one when panning, I'd need a second brain and a third hand to get good use of it. :)

[sentra_dude]

It's my way of post-processing in Photoshop. I only used a polarizer on the green Coupe Fiat, as you can see from the headlights. It's way to hard to use one when panning, I'd need a second brain and a third hand to get good use of it. :)

Cool, cool...I understand about the polarizer, I didn't even think of the fine tuning that's required, that would be quite tough to do while panning!

[TT]

Well, if you already know when exactly you'll shot the picture, you don't have to ratate it anymore (untill you'll change position ;))

[DeMoN]

http://www.xs4all.nl/~akoevoet/GoT/Nordschleife/IMG_1784.JPG

My favorite, but it must be said, that car cant shine that much w/o some PShop action.

[philip]

So how are the plane numbers sharp, but the rest of the plane is showing speed?, thats great!

[sameerrao]

Well, if you already know when exactly you'll shot the picture, you don't have to ratate it anymore (untill you'll change position ;))

Maybe but as there are different cars with different colors and reflectivity driving by you would need to adjust the polarizer every time or put it in one setting and hope for the best. :D

[MIHALS]

Well, if you already know when exactly you'll shot the picture, you don't have to ratate it anymore (untill you'll change position ;))

Maybe but as there are different cars with different colors and reflectivity driving by you would need to adjust the polarizer every time or put it in one setting and hope for the best. :D

no, it's enough to set it once and it will keep working... on some cars more, on some cars less - deppends on the paint, angle and light :wink:

[nthfinity]

Well, if you already know when exactly you'll shot the picture, you don't have to ratate it anymore (untill you'll change position ;))

Maybe but as there are different cars with different colors and reflectivity driving by you would need to adjust the polarizer every time or put it in one setting and hope for the best. :D

i'm with TT on this one.... its really easy to set it up right per coner, or line of sight, then snap the pics.

[TT]

Well, if you already know when exactly you'll shot the picture, you don't have to ratate it anymore (untill you'll change position ;))

Maybe but as there are different cars with different colors and reflectivity driving by you would need to adjust the polarizer every time or put it in one setting and hope for the best. :D

Uhm.. all the cars have pretty much the same surfances and since the light source (sun) doesn't move (well, sort of), the angle you need to "kill" stays the same anyway :)

[MartijnGizmo]

But only if you shoot all cars on the exact same spot in the corner. :)

[TT]

Sure, that's what I said in the f irst place :P

[MartijnGizmo]

But that's repetitive aka boring. :P

[TT]

And I never pretended it to be fun :P

On a serious note, in such situations of course I prefer to take pics in slightly different positions (ideal option is when I can walk to another corner of course), but well, it just take the first car passing to place the filter (and most of the time you can judge without even a car to test it).

Then of course, at the ring the filter isn't always a good idea since it's often so bloody dark :D

As for myself, I am "working" on the highway these days since they are sunny enough to easily use the filter and still beeing able to go up to 1/200 (to be sure not to miss most cars). It's paying off because I got my first moving 959 for instance and quite a few nice cars.
In this case it's pretty easy to judge how to set the filter and I admit it's quite exciting to wait there and wonder what will come next :)

http://img101.imagevenue.com/loc176/th_79107_Ferrari_355_1254.jpg (http://img101.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc176&image=79107_Ferrari_355_1254.jpg)http://img159.imagevenue.com/loc170/th_79112_Ferrari_575M_586.jpg (http://img159.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc170&image=79112_Ferrari_575M_586.jpg)http://img147.imagevenue.com/loc250/th_79118_Lotus_Exige_Mk_II_147.jpg (http://img147.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc250&image=79118_Lotus_Exige_Mk_II_147.jpg)

I'd like to shoot at 1/100 or even 1/80, but to be honest I prefer less "moving" sensation and ok pics rather than messing up an ultra rare car passing by, since Ihave just a single chance for each of them

[sentra_dude]

And I never pretended it to be fun :P

On a serious note, in such situations of course I prefer to take pics in slightly different positions (ideal option is when I can walk to another corner of course), but well, it just take the first car passing to place the filter (and most of the time you can judge without even a car to test it).

Then of course, at the ring the filter isn't always a good idea since it's often so bloody dark :D

As for myself, I am "working" on the highway these days since they are sunny enough to easily use the filter and still beeing able to go up to 1/200 (to be sure not to miss most cars). It's paying off because I got my first moving 959 for instance and quite a few nice cars.
In this case it's pretty easy to judge how to set the filter and I admit it's quite exciting to wait there and wonder what will come next :)

http://img101.imagevenue.com/loc176/th_79107_Ferrari_355_1254.jpg (http://img101.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc176&image=79107_Ferrari_355_1254.jpg)http://img159.imagevenue.com/loc170/th_79112_Ferrari_575M_586.jpg (http://img159.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc170&image=79112_Ferrari_575M_586.jpg)http://img147.imagevenue.com/loc250/th_79118_Lotus_Exige_Mk_II_147.jpg (http://img147.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc250&image=79118_Lotus_Exige_Mk_II_147.jpg)

I'd like to shoot at 1/100 or even 1/80, but to be honest I prefer less "moving" sensation and ok pics rather than messing up an ultra rare car passing by, since Ihave just a single chance for each of them

I worry about that too...I like to have a lot of motion in the pic, but its tough to do and it often takes several pictures which are worthless, and by then the 'catch' may be gone. :(

lol, is that guy in the Lotus picking his nose?!

[TT]

Yes, when you have full control on a car (indepth/photoshoot) you can lower the speed, take a ton of pics and some will be ok ;) same on track: cars passing by several times. When it's a hit or miss situation, it would be silly to go very low if you are not 100% sure about your arms movement ;)

A couple of 1/80 shots
http://img103.imagevenue.com/loc165/th_79909_Ford_Focus_ST_023.jpg (http://img103.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc165&image=79909_Ford_Focus_ST_023.jpg) http://img147.imagevenue.com/loc266/th_79914_Opel_Speedster_046.jpg (http://img147.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc266&image=79914_Opel_Speedster_046.jpg)

And believe me, I needed more than two or three tries to get them right :P

As for the Exige guy, yes, he indeed just completed the procedure when I snapped the pic

[MartijnGizmo]

Who expects some 'freak' taking pictures of you in your car while cruising down the freeway? :D

[TT]

Comon, with all the speed cameras placed everywhere, a normal one placed near Lausanne shouldn't be right away considered operated by a freako :D

[dutchmasterflex]

^ haaha.. you should ask your local government to hire you as a speed camera ;)

[nthfinity]

well, perhaps not as good as Martijn's.... but here's a recent panning shot i did :)

http://www.photolocker.net/images/Nthfinity/vectorw8p3med.jpg

[TT]

Holy crap dude, you're blind or what? There is a fucking tree in the way

:roflmao:

[nthfinity]

Holy crap dude, you're blind or what? There is a fucking tree in the way

:roflmao:

hehe

you know, i thought it was nice having a foreground, and background.. there are others w/out a tree in the foreground ;)

[TT]

Actually I did it a couple of times myself too :D
:arrow: similar idea ;)
http://img139.imagevenue.com/loc159/th_83443_Opel_Speedster_051.jpg (http://img139.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc159&image=83443_Opel_Speedster_051.jpg)

[nthfinity]

Actually I did it a couple of times myself too :D
:arrow: similar idea ;)
http://img139.imagevenue.com/loc159/th_83443_Opel_Speedster_051.jpg (http://img139.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc159&image=83443_Opel_Speedster_051.jpg)
what a nice angle TT :) I'm glad i'm not the only one who thinks like that :p

[sameerrao]

Nth ... I like the composition of the Vector shot ... reminds of some of the Road and Track magazine article shots.

The only small quibble I have is that the Vector is not particularly sharp particularly around the hood and front fenders.

Good effort anyway!

[nthfinity]

Nth ... I like the composition of the Vector shot ... reminds of some of the Road and Track magazine article shots.

The only small quibble I have is that the Vector is not particularly sharp particularly around the hood and front fenders.

Good effort anyway!

i cant help but agree with you.

i really ought to get a new IS lens sometime...

[MartijnGizmo]

i really ought to get a new IS lens sometime...

You still think that's the key to perfect panning shots? ;)

[sameerrao]

Actually I did it a couple of times myself too :D
:arrow: similar idea ;)
http://img139.imagevenue.com/loc159/th_83443_Opel_Speedster_051.jpg (http://img139.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc159&image=83443_Opel_Speedster_051.jpg)

TT how dare you post that picture up!

You of all people ... King of the anti-blur society ... the perfectionist ... the man who castigates anyone and everyone if there is a minute blemish in the picture ... The back of the Opel is blurrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrryy mate!

Get that monstrosity out of there! :wink: :P

[TT]

HAHAHA, I can criticize others' pics but still accept comments on mines, and agree most of the time :P
I know the back is blurry in this one. Actually only the Opel logo is sharp LOL, but sometimes you just have to accept you got no better shot and since the angle was cool, I decided to keep it :P

[sameerrao]

I was just teasing you :)

[sameerrao]

Here's a shot I took at F1 GP @ Indy in 2003. I barely knew how to operate a camera then (some cynics might say that not much has changed since ;) ) and these were some of the better shots.

http://img157.imageshack.us/img157/9681/dscn23934ka.th.jpg (http://img157.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dscn23934ka.jpg)

http://img157.imageshack.us/img157/4011/dscn24984xq.th.jpg (http://img157.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dscn24984xq.jpg)

But anyway, the pics remind me of the greatest race that I attended in my life - it had everything - rain, dry conditions, going into this race there were 3 drivers closely fighting for the championship. Schumi slipping back in slicks in damp conditions and then charging coming back to the front in the wet!

F1 2004
Much sunnier conditions with an amazing pass by Schumi on Rubens on the main straight after a safety car incident. I was lucky to have have witnessed good races throughout - glad I missed the 2005 race.
http://img157.imageshack.us/img157/2282/trulli5mp.th.jpg (http://img157.imageshack.us/my.php?image=trulli5mp.jpg)

[nthfinity]

:shock: :shock: :o :D 0X
http://www.photolocker.net/images/Nthfinity/veyronsmall1.jpg


mabey not my best panning ever, but the car! ! ! ! ! :!:

sorry, as hi-res wont be available for a few days yet i think... I'm still on uber slow foriegn-to-me PC.

yes, this car is every bit as good as people say it is (mabey better) but it is also worse... :oops: :wink:

[sentra_dude]

:!: Whoa dude, is that a catch on the road or something more...?

[No.1]

nth - that's amazing (the car... that is :P )

can't wait to see more of this really fucking rare car 0X

[nthfinity]

hehe, its nice since the photo area is mostly observed by just a few :P

oh, the picture is definatley nicer then what that preview looks... microsoft paint does a terrible job for resizing; and there is no color help either...

[MartijnGizmo]

hehe, its nice since the photo area is mostly observed by just a few :P

oh, the picture is definatley nicer then what that preview looks... microsoft paint does a terrible job for resizing; and there is no color help either...

MS Paint? Way to go for a pro-workflow. :lol:

[dutchmasterflex]

MS Paint! haha..

I REALLY hope this is you're new upcoming indepth ;)

[MartijnGizmo]

Ok ok, I shot it car-to-car, not panning, but I still wanted to share it. :)

http://www.xs4all.nl/~akoevoet/DPZ/IMG_3934e.jpg

[TT]

Traveling shots are indeed another nice thing to master, but impressive how roads are suddently not smooth anymore when you are using your camera :D

[MartijnGizmo]

Haha, yes indeed. Also hanging out of the booth in the pouring rain is no fun, but well, the things yo do to try and make a nice picture. ;) This was my first try btw. :)

[TT]

A couple of my traveling shots tries:

http://img128.imagevenue.com/loc133/th_44610_BMW_E46_M3_535.jpg (http://img128.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc133&image=44610_BMW_E46_M3_535.jpg) http://www.swisscarsightings.com/jaguar/thumbs/Jaguar%20XJR%20024.jpg (http://www.swisscarsightings.com/jaguar/Jaguar%20XJR%20024.jpg)

[MartijnGizmo]

You might have a little flare-problem on the 2nd one. ;)

I noticed that for the best effect the other car has to get really close while using a wide-angle.

[TT]

Comon :D of course the lense flare was what I wanted actually :D we did several tries on that road, up and down and well, in the end I loved the shots with the sun behind the cars ;)
http://img46.imagevenue.com/loc157/th_45134_BMW_E46_M3_532.jpg (http://img46.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc157&image=45134_BMW_E46_M3_532.jpg)

And sure, wide angle is good but I don't like the deformation you obtain in a close 3/4 shot, so I prefer to shoot with the tele if the road is wide enough ;)

[nthfinity]

very nice photo Martijn of the action/road shot there! It's incredibly dificult to find a suitable distance/road/driver etc. here... i've wanted to do a shot like that for a while... Nice work :)

MS Paint? Way to go for a pro-workflow.

hehe...... yeah, imagine looking at the pic through a 16 bit (normally 256 color) monitor 400 mhz that runs more like a 233 mhz Pentium with some really slow hard drives, and who knows how little ram...

Paint aint so bad in those circumstances :lol: LOL

[MartijnGizmo]

Thanks! Just finished another one:
http://www.xs4all.nl/~akoevoet/JW/IMG_3909e.jpg

[MartijnGizmo]

Took some more pictures of the Clio:

http://www.xs4all.nl/~akoevoet/JW/IMG_3972.jpg

http://www.xs4all.nl/~akoevoet/JW/IMG_3978.jpg

[No.1]

Even a relatitively normal car looks a million times cooler with (motion) shots like that. 8)

Hanging out of the boot is a little dangerous though :o

Maybe try to get a nice little in-depth thing running now Martijn with some enthusiasts in your area? Show them some of your work and they'll be banging your door down to get a go :good:

[TopGearNL]

Those pics are awesome MartijnGizmo, I want your camera :twisted:

[dingo]

MartijnGizmo - are you using a remote to control the shutter for those shots?

[MartijnGizmo]

Hanging out of the boot is a little dangerous though :o

I secured myself ofcourse and was sitting in the quite deep boot of a VW Polo. Also we were doing only 20mph.

Maybe try to get a nice little in-depth thing running now Martijn with some enthusiasts in your area? Show them some of your work and they'll be banging your door down to get a go :good:

I've been thinking of that. :) My fellow-photographer (ThunderNet) has a classmate with a modded Mk IV GTI.

Those pics are awesome MartijnGizmo, I want your camera :twisted:

The camera itself has little to do with this, I could've made them with my Powershot G5. :)

[MartijnGizmo]

MartijnGizmo - are you using a remote to control the shutter for those shots?

Yeah, I've got a wired remote (RS80-N3-clone from Adidt, they run for 10 bucks on eBay), but it's not necessary.

Here's a bonus-pic before I go to sleep:
http://www.xs4all.nl/~akoevoet/JW/IMG_3984.jpg

[MIHALS]

how the hell you manage so sharp picture on 25sec shutter??? :shock:

I've heard about some holders, which you suck on the car and you've got it. but it still has to shake the camera little bit when driving :hmm:

[TopGearNL]

You don't suppose MartijnGizmo was sitting on the hood? Naaa, that just couldn't be true :)

[sentra_dude]

MartijnGizmo - are you using a remote to control the shutter for those shots?

Yeah, I've got a wired remote (RS80-N3-clone from Adidt, they run for 10 bucks on eBay), but it's not necessary.

Here's a bonus-pic before I go to sleep:
http://www.xs4all.nl/~akoevoet/JW/IMG_3984.jpg

Damn dude! That is quite the shot, really good stuff man, keep sharing! :D

[TT]

[quote=No.1]...
I've been thinking of that. :) My fellow-photographer (ThunderNet) has a classmate with a modded Mk IV GTI....

Sorry dude, but you should aim higher than that !

[nthfinity]

Took some more pictures of the Clio:



I see you recieved your mount, nice work :)

[MartijnGizmo]

how the hell you manage so sharp picture on 25sec shutter??? :shock:

I can run very fast and have a really steady hand. :lol:

I've heard about some holders, which you suck on the car and you've got it. but it still has to shake the camera little bit when driving :hmm:

Except when you do it the right way. ;)

[dingo]

Except when you do it the right way. ;)

which is?

[Darkel]

Awesome pictures, Martijn :D
Is it possible to have a pic of the whole installation ? I've always been keen on "behind the scene" pictures :)

Talking about panning shots, I finally gave it a try this week-end; the weather was sunny so I had to set f10 for a correct motion effect which resulted in a 1/320s shutter speed, I should have slowed it down a bit more but didn't exactly trust my arms :|
This is my favorite one so far :
http://img109.imagevenue.com/loc27/th_42781_IMG_5039.jpg (http://img109.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc27&image=42781_IMG_5039.jpg)

[MartijnGizmo]

Except when you do it the right way. ;)

which is?

I'm sorry, I'm not gonna post that here in public untill I've sone some indepths. I hope you understand, took me quite some time to find it out.

Awesome pictures, Martijn :D
Is it possible to have a pic of the whole installation ? I've always been keen on "behind the scene" pictures :)

Totally forgot about it, I'll take my PowerShot G5 with me next time to take some behind the scenes shot.

[Darkel]

Totally forgot about it, I'll take my PowerShot G5 with me next time to take some behind the scenes shot.

Thanks :wink:

[dingo]

Except when you do it the right way. ;)

which is?

I'm sorry, I'm not gonna post that here in public untill I've sone some indepths. I hope you understand, took me quite some time to find it out.



Nevermind, I just went out to the zoo carpark and think I've pretty much figured it out anyway. I just need to learn to keep my head and hands still! :)

http://www.ozcarsightings.com/motion1.jpg

http://www.ozcarsightings.com/motion3.jpg

http://www.ozcarsightings.com/motion5.jpg

[MartijnGizmo]

I PM'd you dingo. 8)

[nthfinity]

hey Martijn, is it two photos in one?

no 25 second exposure would have a living person so crisp going agaisnt gravity i think.

[TT]

Ok, dudes fuck off, Martijn (maybe the best bet since we both are in Europe), dingo, nth, where should I buy the damn suction thing online?

[dutchmasterflex]

haha, TT.

I know exactly how you feel. I want one now too! like right NOW.


no 25 second exposure would have a living person so crisp going agaisnt gravity i think.

See how the incar light is one? When you're shooting at 25 seconds, anything you shine the light on (even if its only for a split second) will get exposed, sharp and clear.. and everything else in the dark and in motion will be blurred..

sorry for the half ass explanation

[nthfinity]

haha, TT.

I know exactly how you feel. I want one now too! like right NOW.


no 25 second exposure would have a living person so crisp going agaisnt gravity i think.

See how the incar light is one? When you're shooting at 25 seconds, anything you shine the light on (even if its only for a split second) will get exposed, sharp and clear.. and everything else in the dark and in motion will be blurred..

sorry for the half ass explanation

hehe

duh :spaz: , i knew that; just didn't think of it :P

ive done tons of photos like that (where the same person ends up being multiple places in the same shot) its pretty cool :P

[MartijnGizmo]

hey Martijn, is it two photos in one?

no 25 second exposure would have a living person so crisp going agaisnt gravity i think.

Haha, no, it's just one exposure and I asked my sis' to sit really still. :) I can post the pic straight out of the camera if there's any interest in it.


But putting a remote flash with Omnibounce (bare-bulb-effect) inside the car might actually be a good idea!

[TT]

After a quick search in eBay I only found a few of them

Cullmann (http://cgi.ebay.com/Cullmann-Camera-Suction-Mount-upto-3kg_W0QQitemZ300001169319QQihZ020QQcategoryZ3325QQ ssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem)
Seems a bit too small, the camera will be too close to the car and doesn't seem to move around that much

Manfrotto (http://cgi.ebay.com/Manfrotto-Camera-Suction-Mount-241v_W0QQitemZ300002079344QQihZ020QQcategoryZ3325Q QssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem)
Manfrotto is top quality, but this one seems to tiny LOL :D

[nthfinity]

After a quick search in eBay I only found a few of them

Cullmann
Seems a bit too small, the camera will be too close to the car and doesn't seem to move around that much

I use the Cullman mount...

if you get the full traveling kit, you suddenly have tremendous versitility.

[TT]

Oh, you use the same one as in eBay? You never feel the need to have the camera a bit more far away from the car?

Before buying them I'll do some more efforts and search for them in stores around here, but anyway I don't have any major indepth planned for the near future, so no rush I guess

[nthfinity]

Oh, you use the same one as in eBay? You never feel the need to have the camera a bit more far away from the car?

CU-1001 i believe.

and you can mount devices to the mount to make the camera further away... its much cheaper that way.

[TT]

I see, thanks :)

[MartijnGizmo]

I've got a Manfrotto 241V. It seems tiny in that pic, but it isn't. It's rated for up to 3kg, so enough for a dSLR with a healthy lens (more than enough for a compact 350D ;)). I payed €119, but it's better to be safe than sorry.....

[TT]

Yep, I know the price is worth, but as I ended up buying a cheaper brand for my tripod, I fear I'll do the same for the suction mount

Actually I'll watch that auction in case it will stay onto reasonable territory

[nthfinity]

the Cullman is rated for 6.6 pounds too, i think...

anyway, no accidents yet :P

[dutchmasterflex]

Just make sure you lick those suction cups good before slappin them on!

But putting a remote flash with Omnibounce (bare-bulb-effect) inside the car might actually be a good idea!

That would be REALLY cool.. would definitely get amazing photos with a remote flash.. Sounds like another cool photo gadget I'll have to look into..

I really need to pick up one of those remotes for the shutter first though! I havent had time to go out and take photos... Next week classes start so I'll have more free time.. I think I'll go out late at night and have a play with my new tripod.

[dingo]

I also have a Manfrotto (not sure on the model as its in the car at the moment), but I got it off eBay (USA) for around $AU 200. Its slightly bigger than the one Martijn has mentioned, and obviously gives you adjustments in each direction.

[MartijnGizmo]

Yep, I know the price is worth, but as I ended up buying a cheaper brand for my tripod, I fear I'll do the same for the suction mount

Been there, done that, but got a Manfrotto 055ProB with a 488RC2 head this time. It's just awesome, rocksteady compared to the €30-crap I used to have. And if you put it into perspective, it makes sense: why would I put over 3kg and €3000 worth of gear on such a cheap thing? :)

Did some car shots last night and it had no problems keeping the 70-200 steady.

[TT]

Well, the "cheap" one I bought was still 100 € and no problem with the 70-300 IS at 300 mm or the L lenses I tested (17-40 for instance).. I wouldn't trust a 30 € thing neither ;)

[dingo]

one more from tonight, unfortunately no more time to play around for now.

http://www.ozcarsightings.com/motion7.jpg

[MartijnGizmo]

The picture is a little too dark and too yellow, but other than that quite nice!

I also did some more, with another Clio. :)

http://www.xs4all.nl/~akoevoet/JW/IMG_4057.jpg

http://www.xs4all.nl/~akoevoet/JW/IMG_4053.jpg

http://www.xs4all.nl/~akoevoet/JW/IMG_4059.jpg

[No.1]

@ Martijn - they look great :good:

@ dingo - your wheels look even sexier there, with the chrome lip 8)

[TT]

Shit.. found a simple Cullman in town :roll:

http://Serv1.imagehigh.com/imgs/ih000001/18758_30_06_2006_006.jpg (http://Serv1.imagehigh.com) http://Serv1.imagehigh.com/imgs/ih000001/21490_30_06_2006_013.jpg (http://Serv1.imagehigh.com)

quick testing still with daylight.. so I couldn't really use long exposure times

(yes, I noticed the dirt in the corner :roll: will check later if it's the lense or mirror)

[MartijnGizmo]

Shit.. found a simple Cullman in town :roll:

http://Serv1.imagehigh.com/imgs/ih000001/18758_30_06_2006_006.jpg (http://Serv1.imagehigh.com) http://Serv1.imagehigh.com/imgs/ih000001/21490_30_06_2006_013.jpg (http://Serv1.imagehigh.com)

quick testing still with daylight.. so I couldn't really use long exposure times

(yes, I noticed the dirt in the corner :roll: will check later if it's the lense or mirror)

And your fuzzy dices are all..... ehr..... fuzzy. :D


These shots might get boring soon if everybody starts doing them. :D I've got a trick up my sleeve to get some long exposures during the day, still waiting for some ordered stuff to find out if it works.

[TT]

HAHA, of course I was wondering the same.. of course the polarizer can help a bit, but noway you'll be able to have a good 5 sec or more with no other tricks...

[nthfinity]

HAHA, of course I was wondering the same.. of course the polarizer can help a bit, but noway you'll be able to have a good 5 sec or more with no other tricks...

no idea what martijn's ideas are... besides mabey some darkening filters of some sort; but when shooting in raw, you can fix over exposure to some significant degree

[MartijnGizmo]

[...]noway you'll be able to have a good 5 sec or more with no other tricks...

Patience my friend. 8)

no idea what martijn's ideas are... besides mabey some darkening filters of some sort; but when shooting in raw, you can fix over exposure to some significant degree

Regular ND-filters are not flexible enough for my taste and you have to take them of to get reliable focus (either MF or AF). And as soon as areas are 255,255,255 there's no RAW in the world that can fix it. But yes, overexposing 1 stop is possible and even helps to reduce noise (as you are effectively pulling to ISO50).

[MartijnGizmo]

(yes, I noticed the dirt in the corner :roll: will check later if it's the lense or mirror)

Oh, and mirror-dirt can never be seen on a photo. Lens-dirt is also less likely or at least very obvious. My guess is dirt on the sensor, no big deal and inevitable with a dSLR. If you want to scare yourself: set the camera to f/32, take an out-of-focus pic of the sky and do an auto-levels in Photoshop on the picture. :D

[TT]

Yes I know about that trick and noway I'll do it :D

[MartijnGizmo]

Cleaning is very easy by the way, but that's something for another topic I guess. :)

[TT]

I read tutorials and such but I wouldn't mind some tips from a "real" person ;)

BTW, I also have another question for you, but to OT :arrow: PM

[nthfinity]

Cleaning is very easy by the way, but that's something for another topic I guess. :)

i end up with the same problem with long exposure high aperature photos... and im pretty sure its on the CMOS sensor :(

I have air tube, and that has gotten rid of the big pieces of dust.. anyway, i am curious if there is a better way?

[MartijnGizmo]

Airtubes are the way to go. If it doesn't help, go to an art-supplies-store and get a good small nylon-brush, for like 10 bucks ("VAN GOGH 294 SELECTED FILAMENT - ROYAL TALENS" for example). For the first time, clean it very good and let it rest in a glass with some water/dishsoap-sollution for a while. After that, rinse it of with water again and let it dry completely.

Ok, now to using it: blow through the hairs with your blowtube so they get staticly charged. Use the brush to gently wipe your sensor and repeat if needed.


Or, if you don't trust that, go out and get a Visible Dust Sensor Brush, that is essentially the same but costs $100! There are also some wet sollutions like Sensor Swabs, but they should only be used if nothing else helps.

[TT]

LOL, check the speedo now (thanks Pav for the idea and the job done):

http://Serv1.imagehigh.com/imgs/ih000001/28990_2149030062006013small9pw.jpg (http://Serv1.imagehigh.com)

I could say the shutter speed was more like 0.5 sec ;) that's cooler than seeing that lame 50 kmh :D

[MartijnGizmo]

I also did that in some shots.

Btw, your car is quite fuel-efficient at those speeds! :lol:

[TT]

LMAO!

[dropot2]

I posted these pics some months ago in other topics but I'd like to post them here again.
Nothing really special but I like them :)

http://img239.exs.cx/img239/5757/dscn31212na.th.jpg (http://img239.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img239&image=dscn31212na.jpg)
http://img239.exs.cx/img239/4161/dscn31197ig.th.jpg (http://img239.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img239&image=dscn31197ig.jpg)
http://img239.exs.cx/img239/1159/dscn31359vo.th.jpg (http://img239.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img239&image=dscn31359vo.jpg)

[MartijnGizmo]

#3 is kinda nice but a little to unsharp.....

[dropot2]

#3 is kinda nice but a little to unsharp.....

Totally agree. But considering that my camera is "just" a Nikon Coolpix 4300 is not that bad :)

[alanw89]

Do you think these are any good. Shot with a canon powershot on a pretty dull day. Im thinking of getting an slr and dont want to end up being useless with it so any tips on how they could be better would be good.

http://img123.imageshack.us/img123/7686/img02888ek.th.jpg (http://img123.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img02888ek.jpg)http://img123.imageshack.us/img123/2246/img03044wg.th.jpg (http://img123.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img03044wg.jpg)http://img123.imageshack.us/img123/5913/img03252kv.th.jpg (http://img123.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img03252kv.jpg)http://img123.imageshack.us/img123/7779/img03288xs.th.jpg (http://img123.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img03288xs.jpg)http://img123.imageshack.us/img123/9124/img03798qa.th.jpg (http://img123.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img03798qa.jpg)

So do you think it would be worth getting an SLR.

:?

[MartijnGizmo]

Totally agree. But considering that my camera is "just" a Nikon Coolpix 4300 is not that bad :)

A bad craftman always blames his tools! :lol:

[dropot2]

Totally agree. But considering that my camera is "just" a Nikon Coolpix 4300 is not that bad :)

A bad craftman always blames his tools! :lol:

LOL :lol: Agree :wink:

[MartijnGizmo]

Did some final shooting with the first Clio yesterday, here's one:
http://www.xs4all.nl/~akoevoet/DPZ/IMG_4268.jpg

[philip]

Your work is totally professional. I am very impressed.

Here is my lame attempt. F2.8 180mm 1200 asa film 1/15 sec panning as fast as I can spin my body

http://img118.imageshack.us/img118/2053/saleenatnight20050uq.jpg

[nthfinity]

http://img397.imageshack.us/img397/4499/torrorosso11ql.th.jpg (http://img397.imageshack.us/my.php?image=torrorosso11ql.jpg)

this was unfortunately the best i seemed to have made at the grand prix... pitty... otherwise, focusing was all wrong, and didnt end up looking good :(

[sameerrao]

The 550M came out nice too!!

[nthfinity]

my first time shooting bikes!

http://img241.imageshack.us/img241/2199/no110bx.th.jpg (http://img241.imageshack.us/my.php?image=no110bx.jpg)

me likey!

and the world famous Travis Pastrona (sp?)

http://img278.imageshack.us/img278/1589/no19917pl.th.jpg (http://img278.imageshack.us/my.php?image=no19917pl.jpg)

[jon_s]

Well, I am not sure I am up to taking panning shots of cars just yet...so I decided to go for something a little more sedate!! I had to really concentrate to capture this bird before it disappeared!!!


It is moving......I promise! I had to wait a couple of mins for it to get central hahahaha

http://img320.imageshack.us/img320/5287/bird14ai.th.jpg (http://img320.imageshack.us/my.php?image=bird14ai.jpg)


p.s it is Pastrana, and he is a god!!!

[nthfinity]

from today
http://img77.imageshack.us/img77/990/c6z0617ze.th.jpg (http://img77.imageshack.us/my.php?image=c6z0617ze.jpg)

http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/5100/c6z0628xe.th.jpg (http://img156.imageshack.us/my.php?image=c6z0628xe.jpg)
what, another Z06?

[sameerrao]

Well, I am not sure I am up to taking panning shots of cars just yet...so I decided to go for something a little more sedate!! I had to really concentrate to capture this bird before it disappeared!!!


It is moving......I promise! I had to wait a couple of mins for it to get central hahahaha

http://img320.imageshack.us/img320/5287/bird14ai.th.jpg (http://img320.imageshack.us/my.php?image=bird14ai.jpg)


p.s it is Pastrana, and he is a god!!!

:mrgreen:
Holy Gforces Batman! I was holding onto my chair for dear life - Daffy's speed is awesome...

[sentra_dude]

Well, I am not sure I am up to taking panning shots of cars just yet...so I decided to go for something a little more sedate!! I had to really concentrate to capture this bird before it disappeared!!!


It is moving......I promise! I had to wait a couple of mins for it to get central hahahaha

http://img320.imageshack.us/img320/5287/bird14ai.th.jpg (http://img320.imageshack.us/my.php?image=bird14ai.jpg)


p.s it is Pastrana, and he is a god!!!

Hahahahahahhaah, next you should try shooting a tortoise, and see if you can keep up! :P :D :prr:

[MartijnGizmo]

So we had cars and planes, what about a boat? :)

It was quite far away and not going that fast, so shot it at 1/15s:
http://www.xs4all.nl/~akoevoet/JW/Panning/IMG_4846.jpg

[sentra_dude]

^^^Ohhhh, very nice! 8) Any more?

[MartijnGizmo]

Nope, went there to shoot the (disappointing) sunset and testdrive my new Canon 24-105 f/4 L IS. It only came by once..... dunno what went wrong in resizing, the original looks much sharper. :?

[MartijnGizmo]

Some fresh pics:
http://www.xs4all.nl/~akoevoet/JW/RotenburgRacedays/IMG_5641.jpg

http://www.xs4all.nl/~akoevoet/JW/RotenburgRacedays/IMG_5678.jpg

http://www.xs4all.nl/~akoevoet/DPZ/IMG_5681.jpg

[sentra_dude]

Whoa Martijn, that Audi is badass. 8) Thanks for the 'fresh' pics dude! :D

What type of car is that burning out in the first pic?

[MartijnGizmo]

Whoa Martijn, that Audi is badass. 8) Thanks for the 'fresh' pics dude! :D

I wanted to take more like that of hot cars leaving the event, but got threatened by a Hells Angel.

What type of car is that burning out in the first pic?

I really have no clue. :)

[pterps]

Today at the Hellendoorn Rally, wich was cancelled because of a tragic accident on stage 3 :(

Erik Wevers in his Corolla WRC:

http://img126.imagevenue.com/loc561/th_13140_3706_by_pterps_087_aan_123_561lo.jpg (http://img126.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=13140_3706_by_pterps_087_aan_123_561 lo.jpg)

[TopGearNL]

Very nice shot Pterps, what lens and settings did you use? :)

[pterps]

I used my 75-300 mm lens.

1/125 sec
F/6,3
100 mm
ISO 200

[TopGearNL]

Thanks, by the way what happened on Stage 3? :o

[pterps]

A team in a Opel Ascona crashed, the car caught fire. The driver seriously injured and the co driver (a woman) died in the flames. :(

[TopGearNL]

OMG :o :shock:

Black day for the rally :cry:

[TT]

Sorry to read about the accident but the panning shot is nonetheless well done.

BTW, browsing my pics I found the most extreme try I ever did: 1/15 and of course only a tiny part of the car is sharp, near the center..

http://img145.imagevenue.com/loc572/th_18541_Mercedes_Benz_C32_AMG_022_122_572lo.jpg (http://img145.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=18541_Mercedes_Benz_C32_AMG_022_122_ 572lo.jpg)

[sentra_dude]

Today I took some pics of my friend's Volvo (yes I know its 'only' a Volvo, but he just got it, so we had to go take some pics of course 8)).

I used 1/30sec or possibly 1/40sec, with him driving about 35mph.
http://i9.tinypic.com/4cmd953.jpg


Yes, not a panning shot, but still wanted to share:
http://i9.tinypic.com/2echqu8.jpg


Also, that is a dark day :( for the rally.

Nice pic TT, even though its a little fuzzy; 1/15 is quite difficult! :P

[MartijnGizmo]

I've been way too busy recently, but I shot some fresh material today. Will post a full report soon! Oh, and I learned to use a polarizer while panning. :)

http://www.xs4all.nl/~akoevoet/JW/Panning/IMG_7594.jpg

http://www.xs4all.nl/~akoevoet/JW/Panning/IMG_7630.jpg

http://www.xs4all.nl/~akoevoet/JW/Panning/IMG_7710.jpg

[sameerrao]

I had not taken panning shots for ages ... last week I went to MSR circuit with RC and AgentOrange to help with shooting - I realized that panning is skill that warrants a lot of practice. A lot of my pics were crap and good for the trashcan. i took a few decent ones of two Rufs - hopefully you will see it in the second edition of 0-60 magazine.

Anyway, am attaching here some shots of other cars. The cars were a good distance away - about 300 metres and thus the cars look a bit small

http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/7797/dsc6982pn9.th.jpg (http://img220.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc6982pn9.jpg)

[MartijnGizmo]

Nice sameerrao! I like it when you get to see more of the surroundings.

Another apetizer:
http://www.xs4all.nl/~akoevoet/JW/Panning/IMG_7773.jpg

[TopGearNL]

Great shots Martijn!

I would like those events too to practise with my camera, how do you know about these events? :P

[MartijnGizmo]

I wish I'd knew more about events! I keep an eye on http://www.tt-assen.nl/ , but that's all. I'd love to 'shoot' more events..... :(

[TopGearNL]

Yeah thanks, too bad Assen is pretty far away for me.

I don't understand why we never have Supercar events like that one In The Czech Republic where Mihals was :(

[MartijnGizmo]

Yeah thanks, too bad Assen is pretty far away for me.

I don't understand why we never have Supercar events like that one In The Czech Republic where Mihals was :(

Well, there are stockcar and rallycross events in Valkenburg.....

[MIHALS]

My tries and teasers for my upcoming topic aswell :wink:

I don't have a camera like you guys, not even pro glass, but I try to keep as close (far) as possible with you :lol: :mrgreen:

http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g168/mihals2/car_sights/Autodrom_Most_2006/Porsche-Carrera-GT-01.jpg
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g168/mihals2/car_sights/Autodrom_Most_2006/Pagani-Zonda-S-01.jpg

[RC45]

Ah - so this is how everyone gets around the "No Teasers" rule :P

[MIHALS]

no, that's plain panning shot RC, don't look for any go-round thing businesses :wink:

[RC45]

My tries and teasers for my upcoming topic aswell :wink:


Your words are in bold.. You said they were teasers.. :)

[MIHALS]

are you jelous you can't put any teaser? :prr: :mrgreen:

yes, they are teasers, but in this topic just as a side note, mainly they are touching the name topic :wink:

[TopGearNL]

Yeah thanks, too bad Assen is pretty far away for me.

I don't understand why we never have Supercar events like that one In The Czech Republic where Mihals was :(

Well, there are stockcar and rallycross events in Valkenburg.....

Yeah I know that, isn't it also on the Eurocircuit in Valkenswaard?

But every type of event seems to take place on the other side of Holland, its really annoying for me. :twisted:

RC and Mihals stop bitching :!: :P

[MIHALS]

shush :fuck: :mrgreen:

[harryo2b]

Ok just got my Canon 30D about a week ago and spent this past Sunday at the 'Ring driving a few laps with my friend. While there I snapped a few shots, let me know what you think.

http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/7709/200610010493in5.th.jpg (http://img109.imageshack.us/my.php?image=200610010493in5.jpg)

http://img105.imageshack.us/img105/387/2006100104982ql0.th.jpg (http://img105.imageshack.us/my.php?image=2006100104982ql0.jpg)

[sameerrao]

Excellent job Harry. One suggestion - by reducing the elise shot to 1600*1200 resolution and applying some unsharp mask in Photoshop the image will look dynamite.

Excellent pics as usual Martijn - the blur emphasises the motion very well

Great job Mihals - you proved that its not camera per se but the nut behind it that makes the picture come out well. My SLR has improved my batting average for sure but learning about apertures and shutter speeds has improved my picture taking by a bigger margin. I still have a long way to go though.

[MIHALS]

thanks mate :wink:

now I'm seriously thinking about a 350D with some lenses, cos my Minolta A200 makes too grainy panning pics :bah: ... it's known that the chip isn't able to make propper moving pics...

[harryo2b]

Excellent job Harry. One suggestion - by reducing the elise shot to 1600*1200 resolution and applying some unsharp mask in Photoshop the image will look dynamite.

Excellent pics as usual Martijn - the blur emphasises the motion very well

Great job Mihals - you proved that its not camera per se but the nut behind it that makes the picture come out well. My SLR has improved my batting average for sure but learning about apertures and shutter speeds has improved my picture taking by a bigger margin. I still have a long way to go though.

Thanks man. It was my first time ever doing panning with an DSLR so I used the time at the 'Ring to hone some skills with the 200+ cars that were there that day. Will post more pics in the What You Saw Today section.

[ae86_16v]

http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/7582/dsc3262yc3.th.jpg (http://img146.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc3262yc3.jpg)http://img95.imageshack.us/img95/603/dsc3257cr2.th.jpg (http://img95.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc3257cr2.jpg)

[pterps]

Saturday at the Barneveld Rally:

http://img130.imagevenue.com/loc354/th_97339_3906_by_pterps_570_aan_123_354lo.jpg (http://img130.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=97339_3906_by_pterps_570_aan_123_354 lo.jpg)

[sentra_dude]

Whoa, the SFPD get jetskis?! Dang, that looks like fun. 8) Nice pics ae86_16v.

pterps, that's a sweet pic...its very sharp and great quality, plus its really cool to see the car getting some air! :D

Here's one I took today:
http://i12.tinypic.com/2w6uyl2.jpg
If above pic fails:
http://img9.imagevenue.com/loc420/th_73905_DSC_0102_122_420lo.jpg (http://img9.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=73905_DSC_0102_122_420lo.jpg)

[MartijnGizmo]

Woah, that motorcycle-pic looks awesome!

[dutchmasterflex]

Yeah Sentra_dude, that's an awesome shot ;)

[sameerrao]

Sentra u da man! 8)

[sentra_dude]

Thanks for the compliments guys! :D

Btw, after I took that shot, he did a little 'run', and it was only half throttle and it was still shockingly fast! :shock: 8)

[sameerrao]

Here is a picture I took 2 years back at the F1 race in Indy - it was one of the few shots that came out right - 95% of them turned out crap. Not bad for a point and shoot eh?

Trulli - he was dynamite here - was visibly the quickest out of the slow corner exiting into the loooooong straight.
http://img93.imageshack.us/img93/3661/trullijh3.th.jpg (http://img93.imageshack.us/my.php?image=trullijh3.jpg)

[sentra_dude]

Very nice sameerrao, its hard enough to get good panning shots with an SLR...much less a point and shoot! :D

[sentra_dude]

I had some fun today,

http://i13.tinypic.com/4dllr49.jpg

8)

[dutchmasterflex]

whoaa.. sky driving?

[TopGearNL]

Beautiful pic Sentra_dude, how did you manage that? :shock: :D !

[sameerrao]

Nice picture - Sentra - plane to plane shot - though technically speaking this is not a panning shot as the background isnt blurred.

[sentra_dude]

Thanks guys, to make that shot, I was in another Cessna 172, sitting upfront and pointing the camera down, it was quite difficult to keep the camera steady and get a clear shot because of the slow shutter speed.

Nice picture - Sentra - plane to plane shot - though technically speaking this is not a panning shot as the background isnt blurred

Well, the trees are blurred somewhat, I used 1/80sec or 1/50sec I think, its just hard to tell in that small pic...hahaha, yeah you are right though. :P

Big:
http://img131.imagevenue.com/loc536/th_50960_over_trees_1600_122_536lo.jpg (http://img131.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=50960_over_trees_1600_122_536lo.jpg)

[sameerrao]

I was only speaking from a definition of panning standpoint. It is a superb picture for sure.

[sentra_dude]

You are definitely right sameerrao, I just want it to be a panning shot hahah. :oops: :P

Ok, here is a real panning shot:

http://img130.imagevenue.com/loc377/th_69407_good_one_122_377lo.jpg (http://img130.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=69407_good_one_122_377lo.jpg)

[sameerrao]

Now that is what I am talking about 8)

[stmoritzer]

here're some panning shot from yesterday

hamlet's Speedster
http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m284/stmoritzer/DSC03895a800.jpg

http://img19.imagevenue.com/loc491/th_52157_DSC03895a_122_491lo.JPG (http://img19.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=52157_DSC03895a_122_491lo.JPG)

Arial Atom
http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m284/stmoritzer/DSC04055a800.jpg

http://img11.imagevenue.com/loc574/th_52191_DSC04055a_122_574lo.JPG (http://img11.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=52191_DSC04055a_122_574lo.JPG)http://img142.imagevenue.com/loc557/th_52279_DSC04056a_122_557lo.JPG (http://img142.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=52279_DSC04056a_122_557lo.JPG)http://img162.imagevenue.com/loc441/th_52284_DSC04057a_122_441lo.JPG (http://img162.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=52284_DSC04057a_122_441lo.JPG)http://img144.imagevenue.com/loc341/th_52370_DSC04060a_122_341lo.JPG (http://img144.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=52370_DSC04060a_122_341lo.JPG)

[TopGearNL]

Nice shots StMoritzer, on first impression looks like the Stig is driving the Atom LOL :D

[sentra_dude]

Ohh, I really like the pic of hamlet's Speedster! 8) What shutter speed did you use stmoritzer?

[stmoritzer]

Ohh, I really like the pic of hamlet's Speedster! 8) What shutter speed did you use stmoritzer?
just check the raw picture, it's 1/200s

[sentra_dude]

Ohh, I really like the pic of hamlet's Speedster! 8) What shutter speed did you use stmoritzer?
just check the raw picture, it's 1/200s

Thanks, didn't think of that. :idea:

[TopGearNL]

/\/\ They look great Dani :shock: :D

[MartijnGizmo]

Some nice shots in here again! :!:

[sameerrao]

Excellente!

[pterps]

Nice pictures St Moritzer, I like the speedster pic.
Same for dani, very nice. :!:

[sentra_dude]

Dani! Your pics are sweeet! :D

http://i15.tinypic.com/44g92cm.jpg

http://i15.tinypic.com/3z9gh92.jpg

http://i15.tinypic.com/42w2j68.jpg

[pterps]

I was invited to visit some rally teams yesterday during some test on an old airfield. I was invited bij Stichting Rally for kids, that 's an charity organisation who take sick childeren for a drive in some rally cars. They asked me if I could take some pics of the Golf's/Astra's and the Manta wich they used to drive with the kids. There where also some other professional teams who where testing for the rally season, I was able to walk arround the track and take some pics, this is one of the proffesional teams, driving on the edge, you can see the cone wich they just hit flying through the air, I think I have some more action pics later this week.

http://img113.imageshack.us/img113/1758/rallyforkids208aanml4.th.jpg (http://img113.imageshack.us/my.php?image=rallyforkids208aanml4.jpg)

[TopGearNL]

/\/\ Nice shot Peter!

I like the idea behind the charity, very cool for the kids!

What team was it?