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dropot2
12-17-2003, 06:53 AM
Hi guys! I've just seen a video about a Diablo tunned...I'd like to know what do you think about tunned supercars ( ferraris, lambos, pagani... ).
My opinion is that these cars are simply perfect, and I think that any change you can do on them will ruin them. I'm very classic in that sense... :D
What do you think?
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cho_888
12-17-2003, 07:31 AM
these cars should not be touched and anyone that does should be......its not a good thing. the are perfect as they are. they dont need turbos and whining super charges

Ivanhoe
12-17-2003, 11:21 PM
I wouldn't say no to a ctr2... but then again ruf is kinda their own car manufacturer... :roll:

galaendewagen
12-17-2003, 11:35 PM
I have seen a video of a Ferrari F50 tuned by Koenig...when i saw the title i didnt believe that you could improve apon a Ferrari F50...but the performance was dramatically increased and the sound was unlike anything i have ever heard. And this is comming from a TRUE Ferrari fan. I believe that Ferrari's are the best sounding cars produced...but Koenig did one heck of a job on this F50. So if you can really improve apon the car then i approve of it.

hemi_fan
12-17-2003, 11:38 PM
I think tunning supercars is awesome. As long as you know what you're doing its good. Most of them do not need any suspension work, but you can always use more horsepower. If you can add horesepower without ruining the powerband, its awesome because even if you have too much, you dont need to have the pedal pushed down to the floor all the time, just control your throttle and you will be faster in the straights at least. I also like customized exotics because its much more interesting owning something that even fewer people have since most people wouldnt touch a supercar.

Reznor
12-18-2003, 01:43 AM
I figure if you have the money to buy one to begin with, and you have the money to tune it further, then go ahead. You also have to remember that someone who owns and decides to tune a diablo, isn't just going to throw anything on there from the local autozone like the high school kids. I'm sure they will bring it to a very reputable company or do the necessary research so that they are sure that what is going into it is a good thing.

Johns
12-18-2003, 01:26 PM
If u want to read about Porsche tunin nuts go here http://www.6speedonline.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=4300

andheres another sicklookin Turbo
http://www.6speedonline.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=4251

and here the kind of power some of the Turbos are pushin!! http://www.6speedonline.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=4134

Fluxlo
12-19-2003, 06:28 AM
Well imo, it all really depends on the quality of the tuner. If you let a great tuning company go crazy on an exotic car, you can get even better cars out of it. This does not mean, sticking a giant turbo on a big v12, and watching the hp numbers climb to unatural figures. It means doing a total revamp on the car, so it is better, but it still has total 'balance' If this doesn't make sense, let me know, I'll try to clarify myself (5 in the morning, i really should sleep, another uni final in 2 days :roll:)

oscargarza88
12-19-2003, 11:12 AM
well it depends on the car and how much ur gonna tune it, if it were m car i woudnt do aot of things, just maybe some electronic stuff and smalla things like that just to make it different from the rest. but i would defenitly not want a pupercar with something like 1500 hp or something like that, that would be 2 hard 2 drive, i think

htfaber
12-19-2003, 11:22 AM
I can't think of a good reason to tune an exotic if I would have one. If I would have bought one I definitely didn't want weird spoilers, stickers or other crap on it. And for the power....it is a supercar, what's there to change, it's allready super.

So no, not for me

stradale
12-19-2003, 11:43 AM
I don't oppose to the idea itself. It's just that I can't recall a single attempt of a tuner that was successful IMO.

There is a bit of a grey area however. I don't mind if anyone fits a Tubi style exhaust and a different air filter on a Ferrari. Added superchargers or turbo's are another story I think. It's hard to preserve the togetherness and oroginal character of a car if you make such a drastic change IMO. Where it really starts to go horribly wrong is when these tuner dorks turn into designer wannabe's and start adding spoilers etc. If we're talking about tuning on that level I say: don't ever tune supercars!

Fluxlo
12-19-2003, 02:01 PM
Well, when you think about it. If someone tunes a Supercar, it means that they'll likely drive it alot, instead of keeping it in a garage, and taking it to the occasional auto show. They're just making an already unique car, more unique. I personally think that's really cool. In the case of the first Koenig F50 owner, he felt that the f50 wasn't enough on the track, so he wanted an upgrade. He seemed very satisfied with the upgrade too (musta been one helluva driver if a stock f50 wasn't enough :lol:)

kramerman
12-19-2003, 03:12 PM
Well I guess unless you own an F1, which is really really fast, any other car in the world would have some potential upgrade that could be done to make it faster in the straight, corners etcetc... Doesn't matter if you paid 10 bucks or 1 million bucks for it.

On the other hand, I do agree that since you bought a super car (and paid a heckuva lot of money), it doesn't make too much sense to modify it too much..

doyle
12-19-2003, 05:26 PM
My view is that most cars are made for the average of the intended buyers. That being said, the average of those buying supercars is a narrow range, but it is still designed to work for a wide array of people. To me, tuning is a way of taking a car that roughly fits your style and making it a better fit to your liking. Personalizing it to your taste.

Of course, too many people have taste out thier ass, but that's a different story. My idea of tuning is to make it better FOR ME than the factory offering. If it's not better than factory than why bother, but I am all for tinkering and tuning. If I had money to buy a McLaren F1, I would hope I had money to tune it. Although I think the F1 is about as close to perfect as you can get. With the exception of the Yamaha OX99, of course. :D

doyle

draak666
12-19-2003, 08:25 PM
Usually supercars are near perfect. Some very very minor modifications to supercars under 200.000€ can be allowed. I would only trust respected tuners to touch the engine, though.

CLK-GTR
12-20-2003, 09:08 AM
of course supercars can be improved. compared with race cars they are slow in all aspects of braking and cornering, and often in terms of acceleration. they are designed to be somewhat driveable. Even things like RUF can be improved upon i.e for track use the RUF R Turbo needs the adjustable suspensiion to be made firmer than it comes from the factory.

sickx
12-22-2003, 07:08 PM
Konig back in the late 80s had a Supercharged and Turbocharged (yes, on the same car at the same time) Testarossa...bery unique.

dropot2
12-24-2003, 05:39 AM
Well, probably, i would be agree with a improvement of the engine, eventhough I wouldn't do that with my own car. But what I can't agree with is tunning the shape of the car...I think in most cases people destroys the car, except if the pieces where apllications from the factory itself so they fit perfectly with the conception of the car.
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Fleischmann
12-30-2003, 06:53 AM
In my opinion real supecars are perfect the way they are, the don't need any altering at all. I think tuning spoils the car. And does it really meake a difference if you accelerate 0-100km/h in 3,5 secs or 3,8 secs ??