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Jabba
07-01-2003, 05:45 PM
Engine: 6 cyl, 24 valve, 2990 cc
Power: 286 bhp @ 7000 rpm
Torque: 236 lb ft @ 3600 rpm
Transmission: 5 spd manual, RWD, LSD
Alloy wheels: 7.5(f), 8.5(r) x17"
Tires: 235/40 - 17 rear and front
Weight: 1460 kg
0-60 mph: 5.97 secs (Top Gear Magazine)
0-100 mph: 14.5 secs (TG)
Standing Quater Mile: 14.5 secs at 99.7 mph (TG)
Braking 70-0 mph: 158.5 ft (TG)
Max speed, mph 157 (TG)


http://www.digitalpose.com/mbr/1/21910/p/352252_8806711063308235927_vl.jpg
http://www.digitalpose.com/mbr/1/21910/p/356081_7382268228425281359_vl.jpg
http://www.digitalpose.com/mbr/1/21910/p/356086_1568417820395992763_vl.jpg
http://www.digitalpose.com/mbr/1/21910/p/356094_8292952223853674719_vl.jpg
http://www.digitalpose.com/mbr/1/21910/p/356092_5897903501939334640_vl.jpg

gis
07-01-2003, 06:06 PM
very nice indeed,love the e36,any mods planned noosee

666fast
07-01-2003, 06:13 PM
Awesome car! I've always liked the M3, I'd rather an E30 M3 myslef though.

Sweet ride, must be lots of fun!

crazidude
07-01-2003, 06:39 PM
y is it ultra rare?

gis
07-01-2003, 06:49 PM
4 doors,apparently they hardly made any of them,mostly 2 door

TT
07-01-2003, 06:49 PM
Nice ride :) but around here there are some 4 doors E36 M3.. not ultra rare :) only rarer than the coupé ;)

BTW, for the engine bay shot, did you removed the intake cover?

noosee
07-02-2003, 02:57 AM
very nice indeed,love the e36,any mods planned noosee

Thanks !!!!!!!!!

KW adjustable suspension and new sport exaust will go on later this summer.

Also i would like to replace steereng wheel (original is 2 big), front seats (not enough support) and wheels to lighter and bigger ones (something like oz superleggera 18').

I don't think that engine mods are needed for this car. Chip adds only 15 HP and Airbox 10 HP and would cost together 2000 EUR. Compressor can push power to 400 HP but it is expensive. And as I spend most of the time driving in traffic 286 bhp is enough.

noosee
07-02-2003, 03:05 AM
Nice ride :) but around here there are some 4 doors E36 M3.. not ultra rare :) only rarer than the coupé ;)

BTW, for the engine bay shot, did you removed the intake cover?

Yes it is not rare.

And for the engine bay - it is completly stock. I didnt change anything (exept for the air filter & oil:)).

Jabba
07-02-2003, 04:20 AM
they are extremly rare in RHD form in the UK...but I removed the reference to it...so it doesnt confuse anyone anymore..... :wink:

TT
07-02-2003, 05:18 AM
Nice ride :) but around here there are some 4 doors E36 M3.. not ultra rare :) only rarer than the coupé ;)

BTW, for the engine bay shot, did you removed the intake cover?

Yes it is not rare.

And for the engine bay - it is completly stock. I didnt change anything (exept for the air filter & oil:)).

Ah, strange.. In my 320, there is a plastic cover on the intake part:

http://digilander.libero.it/ttsib/temp/flix2.jpg

And if I'm not wrong, usually also M3s have it...

Edit - yes, I found another M3 engine bay:

http://www.evosport.com/gallery/images/bmw/es_e36_sga/es_e36_sga_18.jpg

noosee
07-02-2003, 06:37 AM
[quote="TT"]

And if I'm not wrong, usually also M3s have it...

Edit - yes, I found another M3 engine bay:
quote]

Thats the US specs M3 engine bay.

Here some info:
The differences between the US and Euro BMW M3
There is a quite significant difference between M3's in the USA/Canada and M3's elsewhere (Europe/Asia etc.).

The "authentic" M3 (often referred to as the "Euro Spec." M3) has the real M-engine:

S50 B30 in the 3.0 Liter Euro M3 (built from 1993 to 1995)
S50 B32 in the 3.2 Liter Euro M3 (built from 1995 to present)

The S50 B30 develops 286 hp at 7000 rpm, the S50 B32 develops 321 hp at 7400 rpm.

The following are the engines of the US M3:

S50us B30 in the 3.0 Liter US M3 (built from 1995 to 1996)
S50us B32 in the 3.2 Liter US M3 (built from 1996 to present)

The S50us B30 and S50us B32 both develop 240 hp at 6000 rpm.

The US M3 engine is - from a constructors viewpoint - a tuned standard 3-series 6-cylinder motor: The S50us engine is a bored and stroked M50/M52 engine which was/is used in the 325i(s)/328i(s).

The Euro Spec. M3 engine is a hand-built engine which has Double-VANOS, 6 single throttles (one individual throttle body per cylinder) and has the characteristics of a racing engine: High engine speed red line almost at 8000 rpm, High specific power output of over 100hp/liter. The single throttles are a typical feature of all M-engines from the late Seventies M1 to the allnew E39 M5 8-cylinder. They all had/have single throttles. If you compare a picture of the US M3 engine with the Euro M3 engine with the hood open, you can see the difference by looking at the engine bay, even from distance.

Beside this essential difference, the US M3 also has a softer suspension, other headlights, wheels of different materials and other more or less minor differences. Also the US M3 is available with an automatic transmission beside the 5-speed manual gear box. The Euro Spec. M3 is only available with a 6-speed manual or a sequential gearbox (called "SMG"), which either works like a manual gear box (but without a clutch) or automatically. In 1995 the 3.2 Liter Euro M3 also got the 1994 M5 3.8 high performance brakes with compound discs, which made it one of the best braking cars on the German market (even competitive to the Porsche 993 TT for example).


Most likely reason for the "De-Tuning" is the fact that the Euro M3 might be too expensive for the US market (in BMW's opinion) and would never have reached the successful sales numbers of the US M3. And offering the Euro M3 as a special edition for those who can afford it was obviously not an option for the following reasons: 1. Adapting it to the US emission regulations and having it certificated for the US market would have been too expensive for BMW, related to the small number of cars that would have been sold with the financially much more attractive S50us-powered M3 aside and 2. the US M3 would have lost some great amount of prestige (Keep in mind, that many US M3 buyers find out about the Euro M3 actually AFTER they purchased what they thought was the "original" one...). So, although the US M3 unfortunately is not a 100 percent "genuine" M-car, it still remains being a hell of a machine :-)
http://mitglied.lycos.de/m3gt/m3images2/eu_spec_engine.jpg

http://mitglied.lycos.de/m3gt/m3images2/us_spec_engine.jpg

TT
07-02-2003, 06:43 AM
Yeah, I know the difference between the models, but I thought every 3 series had the cover :)

draak666
07-02-2003, 08:10 AM
I think the engine looks cool 'naked' 8) . Like the Alfa's.

I know constructors sometimes detune an engine a little bit in one country so that it would fit in a lower tax range over there. But damn, 46 hp less (and a softer suspension) that sucks big time.

I don't quite understand the Americans on this point either. Why are they so fond of a soft suspension? Are the roads so bad in the US? Or is it a misperception of me? Who's from the US and can explain it for me?

draak666
07-02-2003, 08:29 AM
Forgot to mention:

A five speed gearbox is no problem, since you never have to use 6th gear when you're racing. But an automatic gearbox in a sportscar? That makes no sense. It takes away all the fun.

SilviaS15Cwest
07-14-2003, 04:38 PM
Very nice car.

noosee
07-22-2003, 04:50 PM
A bit sad but yesterday I sold it :(
So I dont have M3 anymore.
And I'll have to wait till next spring 4 sometning new.

draak666
07-22-2003, 05:40 PM
Man, that's so sad. How come?

gis
07-22-2003, 06:41 PM
wow,what happened noosee

noosee
07-23-2003, 01:18 AM
Nothing.
My younger brother came to me and asked to sell it to him.
I thought why not. And I think I still be able to drive it.
Next year something better and faster will follow.

gis
07-23-2003, 07:56 AM
dang,at least its still partly with u :)

any idea what you be gettin in the future

WhiteP
07-26-2003, 05:46 PM
M3 DROOL........ :shock:

but I like chrome nose better, more elegant

Flawless
08-05-2003, 12:59 PM
You could have sold the engine online and probably made a hefty amount. But than the car would have been useless :(

coombsie66
08-06-2003, 04:33 PM
Hey noosee, my mums is up 4 sale, 82K miles full bmw service history, no mods, grey leather, 10k.
U live in uk rite?

Jabba
08-06-2003, 04:41 PM
You wouldnt know anything about propertys for sale in your neck of the woods... would ya coombsie baby ???...I am looking for a place with some land and some out buildings...as a weekend get away...

fireguy
08-29-2003, 04:51 PM
nice ride nosee........i have an e36 320i in my garage; now i'm inspired to sex it up a bit........

deth
10-01-2003, 04:36 PM
I thought the reasons for the difference in teh US and euro M3s engine was ther teh euro would make emissions regualtions,a nd thats why they changed it. as far as having teh floating rotor vs non floating, it was thought to be a lawsuit liability as they can be unreliable. and knowing how much americans love to sue companies tehy decided to go with the fixed rotors

hemi_fan
10-03-2003, 02:04 PM
man, thats an awesome car. If I was gunna buy a BMW, it'd either be the M3 or the M5... very nice cars

Johns
10-28-2003, 07:02 PM
nice ride. time to have my bmw as a featured car :D

yshimy
11-12-2003, 10:42 PM
very nice article nosseee, thanks for this illustration and for that detailed information.

what is your source for those info?

and keep up educating us :wink:

coombsie66
11-19-2003, 02:42 PM
oh shit, ive only just read up on this thread, jabba, i know a bit about the property round my way, wat u lookin 4 and where??? Somerset in particular or nywhere in the south west?
There are quite a few barn conversions goin on round my way at the moment.
Our buisness has jsut completed about 5 total overhauls of some very nice mansion houses, old country houses etc.
If u want ny info Jabba then feel free to PM me, im at uni till crimbo but i can ask me parents 2 keep an eye out 4 wateva ur lookin 4.
Cheers

JM
12-18-2003, 06:27 PM
KW coilovers eh? I heard good things about them for the e36. Any plans of turbo charging it?

Stino
12-23-2003, 01:35 PM
Nice car you have there . I see you have the GT-spoiler on the trunk. Only too bad that it is not an original M3 GT.

I own a E30 M3 from 1990. As soon I have a little webspace, I will throw a picture only.

And then you sell it ... my god

BYE

snacky
12-31-2003, 02:21 AM
I had an old E30 325is. After a while the electronics on those things get horrid ( went through 2 engine comps). I had to replace the steering rack twice and I cracked a brake rotor after I did some hard driving and then went through a car wash. Guess the temperature change was too much. But that thing sure handled sweet!

m3guy
01-10-2004, 05:26 PM
i want an M3 E36!haha..im almost there

TypeLT
01-13-2004, 07:37 PM
Black, Clean, German = Happy

Nice ride!

undien717
01-30-2004, 09:03 PM
So are you going to pick the the E46 CSL now? :wink:

ae86_16v
02-12-2004, 05:23 AM
Very nice, I am looking for one exactly like that :) .

revvv_pshhh
02-23-2004, 03:30 AM
go with an e46 then. Keep it in the family fool! those cars are sick. this kid at my school gots one and its fastttttttttt. handles like no other. I love it. you should check it out

Tsjilp
02-25-2004, 05:34 PM
Next year something better and faster will follow.

To find better and faster you will have to spend a lot of money i think :-)
btw The m3 4 door isn't rare at all in belgium ...
it's a shame that BMW didn't make a 4 door variant of its lately 3 serie ...