Oliver Stone's - World Trade Center (the movie)

[Toronto]

don't know why they are making this, i guess to get everyones hopes up about iraq or somthing stupid like that. or maybe firemen stopped getting all the ladies they wanted (joking)

http://www.aintitcool.com/display.cgi?id=22444
staring nic cage?
http://images.aintitcool.com/images2006/WTC_03918.jpg
http://images.aintitcool.com/images2006/WTC_Teaser.jpg

[blinkmeat]

Yay Nick Cage :|

Yay Oliver Stone :|

:|

[Mattk]

Only in America would someone make such a movie. Probably some excessively emotional and patriotic film.

[RC45]

Only in America would someone make such a movie. Probably some excessively emotional and patriotic film.

You probably didn't mean that to come across the way it did - "Flight 93" has already aired and it was a very well done movie.

It was quite accurate and made with full co-operaiton for the families, the FAA, the military and the airlines.

These types of stories MUST be told - unless you want the type of mayhem, chaos and murder that the middle east exports to become your daily life as well.

[Mattk]

Yeh, apologies if that sounded a bit dodgy. What I really mean is that its emotional appeal lies mainly with the Americans due to the overt patriotism precipitated by the theme of the film. I don't think people from other countries would be too interested in this film, certainly not a country like Australia, where we think putting hands on hearts during the national anthem is a bit weird.

[RC45]

I don't think people from other countries would be too interested in this film, certainly not a country like Australia, where we think putting hands on hearts during the national anthem is a bit weird.

I take it then thast when you see the live video of the jetliners crashing into the buildings and exploding you don't fieel a thing?

You perhaps have ben desensitisec by modern movies and don't realise it is not special effects but actually the visual of 1000 people dieing in an instant.

You have seen the footage of the jets ploughing into the buildings - right?

[Banchi105]

We all lived through it. We know what happened.

Quit the profit-seeking motives here and make these movies in 30 years when our kids need to be shown what happened. (Like Titanic / Pearl Harbor / Saving Private Ryan / ect)

I will not be seeing any of these movies. I'd rather watch a documentary on the history channel if I wished to be refreshed on the events that took place...

:roll: :roll:

[RC45]

We all lived through it. We know what happened.

Quit the profit-seeking motives here and make these movies in 30 years when our kids need to be shown what happened. (Like Titanic / Pearl Harbor / Saving Private Ryan / ect)

I will not be seeing any of these movies. I'd rather watch a documentary on the history channel if I wished to be refreshed on the events that took place...

:roll: :roll:

What profit motive? I don't know about you, but a "TV" movie doesn't cost me anything to watch?

And where are you complaining about the "Pearl Habour, Private Ryan" profit motives.

Again - the story needs to be told and kept fresh in everyones mind.

You need to be reminded that a 1000 people were turned into red mush in a instant as 2 planes were flown into civilian buildings.

If your profile is correct, you were a 15 year old pimply nintendo kid when it happened.. as 5 years is a 1/4 of your life span - you are an example of who needs to be reminded of what you are up against.

Unless you feel it was just another story on the news in between your watching M-TV.

[LotusGT1]

It's not like Oliver Stone is producing this movie for preserverance of history. And I do get his point when he says some of these movies typically end up in overglorifying patriotism and victory. Let's just hope this one remains true to reality and it will be a valuable addition to movie history.

[RC45]

He producing this movie because it is topical and relevant - good business sense - and because it is the right movie to produce.

This has been true for many of his and other peoples movies.

Strange how no one was bitching about any movies made to preserve the story behind the 3/11 and 7/7 attacks.

[Banchi105]

We all lived through it. We know what happened.

Quit the profit-seeking motives here and make these movies in 30 years when our kids need to be shown what happened. (Like Titanic / Pearl Harbor / Saving Private Ryan / ect)

I will not be seeing any of these movies. I'd rather watch a documentary on the history channel if I wished to be refreshed on the events that took place...

:roll: :roll:

What profit motive? I don't know about you, but a "TV" movie doesn't cost me anything to watch?

And where are you complaining about the "Pearl Habour, Private Ryan" profit motives.

Again - the story needs to be told and kept fresh in everyones mind.

You need to be reminded that a 1000 people were turned into red mush in a instant as 2 planes were flown into civilian buildings.

If your profile is correct, you were a 15 year old pimply nintendo kid when it happened.. as 5 years is a 1/4 of your life span - you are an example of who needs to be reminded of what you are up against.

Unless you feel it was just another story on the news in between your watching M-TV.

Did you even read what I wrote??? :roll:
I was promoting movies such as Titanic, Saving Private Ryan, ect. for introducing younger generations to our nations history.

Yeah, I'm quite the MTV fan... (as a matter of fact I don't even own a TV - I couldn't really care less...)


Quit with the personal attacks and attempt to engage in a productive discussion.

It is possible discuss issues with people of differing viewpoints without constantly attacking them personally. :roll:

[RC45]

We all lived through it. We know what happened.

Quit the profit-seeking motives here and make these movies in 30 years when our kids need to be shown what happened. (Like Titanic / Pearl Harbor / Saving Private Ryan / ect)

I will not be seeing any of these movies. I'd rather watch a documentary on the history channel if I wished to be refreshed on the events that took place...

:roll: :roll:

What profit motive? I don't know about you, but a "TV" movie doesn't cost me anything to watch?

And where are you complaining about the "Pearl Habour, Private Ryan" profit motives.

Again - the story needs to be told and kept fresh in everyones mind.

You need to be reminded that a 1000 people were turned into red mush in a instant as 2 planes were flown into civilian buildings.

If your profile is correct, you were a 15 year old pimply nintendo kid when it happened.. as 5 years is a 1/4 of your life span - you are an example of who needs to be reminded of what you are up against.

Unless you feel it was just another story on the news in between your watching M-TV.

Did you even read what I wrote??? :roll:
I was promoting movies such as Titanic, Saving Private Ryan, ect. for introducing younger generations to our nations history.

Yeah, I'm quite the MTV fan... (as a matter of fact I don't even own a TV - I couldn't really care less...)


Quit with the personal attacks and attempt to engage in a productive discussion.

It is possible discuss issues with people of differing viewpoints without constantly attacking them personally. :roll:

What personal attack?

You were a 15 year old kid when the WTC were attacked.

A full 1/4 of your lifespan has passed since then - you need reminding of the events.

The "in 30 years when our kids" comment is the one you should reread... :) That squarely places you as the target audience.

[LotusGT1]

He producing this movie because it is topical and relevant - good business sense - and because it is the right movie to produce.

This has been true for many of his and other peoples movies.

Strange how no one was bitching about any movies made to preserve the story behind the 3/11 and 7/7 attacks.

Oh, I couldn't care now or in the past, it's more that I vaguely understand where he was getting at. Has nothing to do with 9/11, 3/11 or 7/7 for all I care.

[dutchmasterflex]

You were a 15 year old kid when the WTC were attacked.

A full 1/4 of your lifespan has passed since then - you need reminding of the events.

The "in 30 years when our kids" comment is the one you should reread... :) That squarely places you as the target audience.

a full 1/4 of your life span has passed since then, and my terms, about 5 years. I sure as hell do not need a remind of the events of 9/11. They are clearly imprinted in my mind. I can remember the day my school was locked down and we couldnt leave the classroom like it was yesturday.

[RC45]

I don't think you should presume, that someone is younger then you and was a kid at the time, that he doesn't remember the events that occured as clearly as you.

A 15 year old kid isn't a 5 month old kid that in a few years he'd forget the things that have hapened. Not to mention the constant reminders of that event. The Iraq war as well as other numerous events have been connected to 9/11 and that has been mentioned every time.

You were 12.. :P

[Mattk]

I don't think people from other countries would be too interested in this film, certainly not a country like Australia, where we think putting hands on hearts during the national anthem is a bit weird.

I take it then thast when you see the live video of the jetliners crashing into the buildings and exploding you don't fieel a thing?

You perhaps have ben desensitisec by modern movies and don't realise it is not special effects but actually the visual of 1000 people dieing in an instant.

You have seen the footage of the jets ploughing into the buildings - right?

Of course I've seen the footage. However, however saddening the destruction is, we get on with life, not make movies about it. And even though I was 13 at the time of the attack, I still remember it. Most people do. This didn't happen a long time ago.

[RC45]

america is over patriotic and dwells on pointless stuff far too much

they are also infidels

[graywolf624]

You were 12..
Damn this conversation is making even me feel old... Of course this makes my daughter almost 5 as well.. So I guess I am.

[TransAm]

Dude, you have a daughter? I didnt know that!

[Mattk]

america is over patriotic and dwells on pointless stuff far too much

they are also infidels

Aren't you American? If you don't like it in Houston, go live in Iran.

Yeh, I never knew Gray had a daughter...

[RC45]

america is over patriotic and dwells on pointless stuff far too much

they are also infidels

Aren't you American? If you don't like it in Houston, go live in Iran.

Yeh, I never knew Gray had a daughter...

but america is to blame for everything in the world.

pollution, starvation, tsunamis, global warming, the oil price - hell america is even the cause of the muslim cartoon fiasco.

I mean their cars are slow, handle badly and are badly made - their people are fat and stupid and their president is an idiot.

right?

oh - and they are in cahoots with the jews trying to destroy the world.

[JoeHahn]

america is over patriotic and dwells on pointless stuff far too much

they are also infidels

Aren't you American? If you don't like it in Houston, go live in Iran.

Yeh, I never knew Gray had a daughter...

but america is to blame for everything in the world.

pollution, starvation, tsunamis, global warming, the oil price - hell america is even the cause of the muslim cartoon fiasco.

I mean their cars are slow, handle badly and are badly made - their people are fat and stupid and their president is an idiot.

right?

oh - and they are in cahoots with the jews trying to destroy the world.

correction - trying to destroy the muslim world :lol:

[graywolf624]

Dude, you have a daughter? I didnt know that!

Well yes and no.. long private story.. But she is my pride and joy.

[Mattk]

Yes and no?

RC has gone absolutely bonkers. America can't be blamed for everything.

[RC45]

Yes and no?

RC has gone absolutely bonkers. America can't be blamed for everything.

why not 98.7% of all the posts on this site alone blame america and the jews for everything - praise the radical violent middle east

all I am doing is following the majority around here - my views are inline with the masses

[Sydbom]

Yes and no?

RC has gone absolutely bonkers. America can't be blamed for everything.

all I am doing is following the majority around here - my views are inline with the masses

I have no idea what your opinion is or what you are exactly talking about BUT what you just said is something really dangerous!
thinking that something must be ok if its in the same line as what everybody else think.

the big problem here seems to be the ongoing problem of one guy does something bad and his whole country or race takes the blame! we ALL have to stop that!

peace and love everybody! :-)

[Mattk]

Uh, RC, no-one else is blaming the Jews and the Americans for everything, excpet you of course.

[RC45]

Uh, RC, no-one else is blaming the Jews and the Americans for everything, excpet you of course.

really?

a simple search of this and other "internaitonal" flavour webforums will prove you 100% wrong.

so therefor the masses must be right - the majority blame america for everything.

[LotusGT1]

why not 98.7% of all the posts on this site alone blame america and the jews for everything

Prove that. You'll see that is utter bullshit. You pointing at everybody saying we are all anti-jew and hating America, are supporters of terrorist etc etc...

Don't make a fool out of yourself again.

[gangajas]

I don't know if there is over-patriotism in the USA, but some people here did not seem too worried about the people that were trying to survive in New Orleans after the Katrina's tragedy. Maybe it is a strange kind of patriotism. :?:

[graywolf624]

Yes and no?
One is true biologically, the other is true legally. Which one is rather private.

[Mattk]

Oh. OK.

Anyway, I don't think this movie is much more than a doco style memorial of participants in the WTC attack.