The limitation of maximum speed at 80 km/h in Switzerland

[Ford Capri 2.8i]

Ive read this statement from a newspaper article that the maximum speed is going to be limited in every motorway from the current 130 km/h into 80 km/h as well as in other places where the speed limitation was higher than 80km/h; In addition Ive heard that the speed limitation is going to be due to the vast number of death after a car accident

However, since I dont believe in this drastical change (a limitation from 130km/h into 80km/h means to reduced the maximum speed almost to the half), Ill be waiting for the TTs news or confirmation about the news

Cheers

[TT]

Partial BS.. we had in some region (less than 50% of the country anyway) the 80 km/h limit to reduce the extremely high pollution that was in the air. After some days everything is back to normal

[dingo]

Speed limits are like the fairytales, I don't believe in them. ;)

[Ford Capri 2.8i]

BTW....since there are some rumours that the old cars are going to be banned in Madrid in the near future, and Switzerland is one of the best examples about the environment

Does exist any rule or legislation that some old cars are banned to be driven in any Swiss relevant capitals due to their polution?

The question is that there are some rumours that in the future every car up to 6 year are going to be banned to be driven in the centre of Madrid due to their polution

[leo_26782]

I would say BS again. How can you justify banning a lot of people from driving into the center because their car is too old?!? It means that you would force them to sell it in order to buy some new ones? I don't beleive it!

The only thing about pollution we have in Switzerland is a test that the car has to pass every three years (or so) to make sure that it doesn't create too much pollution. But it is valid for the whole country, so I don't know where this info would be coming from :?

[Ford Capri 2.8i]

Exactly, thats the point, I dont believe this measure since its too discriminatory and it doesnt have too much sense because an old car in great conditions creates less polution than a new one if its not set it up properly; however, just in case, I decided to open this topic in order to get some answer from the swiss people (alongside the scandinavian people) the reference in terms of environmnent, welfare,.....

[Ford Capri 2.8i]

Thanks everyone for the answer anyway; on the other hand, Ive heard that some similar system (I mean, the less you drive in the city center, the more discount you get) has already been implementated in Oslo; Ill be waiting for the news

[graywolf624]

It means that you would force them to sell it in order to buy some new ones? I don't beleive it!
Great for the poor so to speak :roll:


sense because an old car in great conditions creates less polution than a new one if its not set it up properly
The new car would have to be really badly setup. The worst SUV is nowhere near as polluting as any 70s production car. They could also increase the vat on older cars instead of new ones(the new one is just for money as the newer car polutes less so what your supposed to curtail) but you run back into the poor situation.

As for the speed limit, bah!

[Shinigami]

btw: the speed limit on highways is 120, and deaths have been going down several % every year.

The real reason for this has been the cold front which caused pollution to stay very low. Of course, the argument from "scientists" was that there were too many particules in the air, and bringing the speed down to 80 drops pollution levels.

This unfortunately is bullsh1t, as onbly a few percent of pollution is caused by cars, and going from 80 to 120 only raises pollution by .1 or .2%.

These "scientists" and heads of state should probably try to look at the BIGGER polluters of air first.

[Ford Capri 2.8i]

Naturally every policy moved from the politics such as environment, safety,....in 100% politics so it means interest and rubbish rather than anything else; for instance a car at 80km/h but in second and 5500rpm polutes quite more than in sixth at 3500 rpm but at 150km/h; the engines size should be limited because it has more fuel comsuption, every car should transit on the road when its totally hot because it polutes less, and so on....

[Shinigami]

What I find even more disturbing if they do this throughout the country, is that on average, some families will spend 20% more time on the road every day when they go to work. This in turn translates to less time with their kids, earlier waking up times, less sleep, more tired people, less work efficiency, etc...

Well, just a theory of mine, but wouldn't surprise me too much.

[graywolf624]

What always bothers me is that they argue they shouldnt build more roads to stop polution... You think it wouldnt take a rocket scientist to understand that cars idling on the highway stuck in traffic produce more pollution.

[Mattk]

More roads are needed in Sydney. It gets ridiculously crowded in the CBD during the mornings and in the evenings.

130 or 120 to 80 is a ridiculously drastic change which reduces productivity, because everyone is spending more time poking along on the highways, instead of mvoing speedily to wherever they have to go. Sure, it may reduce road deaths, but surely, if that was an issue, a reduction of 10-15km/h would be more than adequate. Pollution-reduction is a poor argument to use. Just force owners of cars to constant undergo checks/maintenance to ensure that their cars comply with tough emissions regulations, and make sure that new cars also comply, obviously.

[Mattk]

6 years is still quite new, even in this day and age. Maybe 10 years would be a better option.

[leo_26782]

:? As you can guess, I don't agree with them, but well, if ever I come to Madrid with my car (which is not scheduled anytime soon) they will give me a fine that I will never pay, so :lol: