Does anyone here like Wrestling

[MC12]

Does anyone here like wresting because my friend likes it and he is wondering if anyone on this forum does :lol:
If you do like wwe wresting he would like to meet you on msn messenger and talk.

Now he wants his addy taken off this now. So all this was a dud :?

[RC45]

Uhm - this sounds like a gay porno meeting being solicited... :shock:

Are either of you under-cover cops trying to entrap some unsuspecting wresting fan into "meeting in a shopping mall parking lot"?

:)

[MC12]

:lol: Well i didnt want to make a topic but my mate insisted , you can delete this topic if you want. I am the opposite of him i think wrestling is pointless :wink:

[SFDMALEX]

Ghey indeed.

[Wyclef]

Wrestling is only a big show... nothing more. As a kid I thought they are really fighting :lol:

[nthfinity]

never really liked it, and never really watched it... oh, and the video games arent any fun either :P

[bondw23]

my mate asked me to say your mate is homersecsual

[nchs09]

this sounds rly homoerotic. and no, wrAstling is kinda homoerotic to being with.

[nchs09]

hahah this thread is just pwneg. move to the classic section! :p

[No.1]

my mate asked me to say your mate is homersecsual

And i said to my mate i bet my dad could beat your dad at wrestling

[Toronto]

NO sorry I dont like cheap acting but I like this guy here :D
http://www.break.com/index/wrestlingfan.html

lol that is great

[ARMAN]

NO sorry I dont like cheap acting but I like this guy here :D
http://www.break.com/index/wrestlingfan.html

:shock: :lol: :lol: :lol:

[TransAm]

my mate asked me to say your mate is homersecsual

And i said to my mate i bet my dad could beat your dad at wrestling

Yeah and I bet ya mam could bear both of them at once

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

[graywolf624]

Lets put it this way.. I do real wrestling, and I find that crap insulting to what I do.

[DeMoN]

men in tight holding each other's balls and ass while imitating they are fighting? Thats not for me sorry.

[antonioledesma]

don't mess with "El Santo"
http://www.santoandfriends.com/santopictures/carlitos.jpg

he's your daddy 8)

and with Blue Demon
http://www.santoandfriends.com/demonsr.jpg

[ZfrkS62]

:lol: @ Antonio!

I'm on Gray's side on this one. Shit like WWF (well, now it's WWE) is a fucking joke.

[ae86_16v]

I used to watch it when The Rock and Triple H was big. About maybe 10 years ago or so. . . it was entertaining.

But I stop watching then I stop carrying about the plot/story. Oh wells.

[RC45]

I get my car washed at Stevie Ray's place down the road (Booker T's brother) and we often chat about his days in the ring.

Even he longs for the "good old days" ;)

BTW - he has a pretty neat collection of cars...

[ZfrkS62]

I get my car washed at Stevie Ray's place down the road (Booker T's brother) and we often chat about his days in the ring.

Even he longs for the "good old days" ;)

BTW - he has a pretty neat collection of cars...

pics or stfu :P

[RC45]

I get my car washed at Stevie Ray's place down the road (Booker T's brother) and we often chat about his days in the ring.

Even he longs for the "good old days" ;)

BTW - he has a pretty neat collection of cars...

pics or stfu :P

exactly, :twisted: !!

and RC, you let other people wash your car??


and as for the topic, yes wrestling is as gay as gay can be!! big men, hugging each other, slapping each other on the ass, and grabbing each others crotches doesn't seem very manly!!

No problem.. :P

[Daggernite]

Wrestling use to be good with the rock and stone cold. Now its just abit reatarded. Before u could pretended its real, but now its so fake, i mean other day it just happened to be on skysports, and some wrestler was having visions of the undertaker in his head, only these visions was real!, they was cause on camra even. hows that possible.

[nchs09]

^^^ :shock:

[graywolf624]

As opposed to the real thing:
http://www.homestead.com/graywolf624/files/00_00012.jpg

(Yes thats a young 17 year old graywolf about to win yet another match)

[graywolf624]

Ok.. I guess the olympics are gay.. As are NCAA nation wrestling championships... The stuff above is real, and its probably the hardest sport you can physically compete in. Easily the hardest 7 mins in sports. Not to mention back then it got me plenty of women when I walked off the mat. If being gay means having 10 female groupies count me in.

[graywolf624]

Well considering we've discussed my daughter, I think your closet idea falls apart quickly lol..

But Id argue that if wrestling is gay, so is rugby and most other contact sports. Having done all of the above Id say that a tackle resembles hugging as much as ripping someones face off with a cross face and slamming them onto their back.

you aren't getting paid, and you spend more time hugging the other guy and laying on top of him then the dudes on tv do.

See paragraph 2 for discussion of payment:
as for the chicks, it doesn't matter dude. in any sport, girls will always flock the winner as thats who they want to be associated with!!


I was good at rugby, I was the star in wrestling.. Guess which one got me women lol.

[LotusGT1]

Damn Ronin, are you always this lame?

[graywolf624]

didnt know that homsexual male couples couldnt adopt kids, oh wait wait they can!!
My BIOLOGICAL daughter genius..

ut go down to texas and it isnt nearly as worshipped as wrestling or football. so, all that plays a role on who will get the most attention!!
Im from Pennsylvania not Texas.. And I cant play basketball nor do I have any interest too.

and rugby doesnt really have a big following here
Would you prefer track or baseball (two sports I competed at but was average?) My high school didnt have football and I wasnt going to get onto gts top 10 in the country football team with a bad back (I tried to walk on and they called me a liability). In all honesty the only thing I did that I think was gay was Band (Even that is subjective as that experience depends on what school you go too..). I like playing musical instruments but some stuff you do for your parents.

[LotusGT1]

OK, you're talking about yourself then.

Because if you think "
i didnt know that homsexual male couples couldnt adopt kids, oh wait wait they can!! "-like quotes are remotely close to contributing to this thread, insulting a respected member too, you don't have things lined up properly in your head....

Please STFU, the fact you have a mental capacity of a 5-year old is fine, just don't bother anyone else with it. Your rants are on rare occasions mildly funny, 99% of the time you're just lame.....

[LotusGT1]

I was responding to your post obviously....well, obviously to anybody with some actual intelligence...

Anyway, you're acting like a child...I don't need to defend gray as he's perfectly capable of doing so himself...

However I get annoyed by your pissy little childish remarks acting like a spoilt little kid who has never been getting attention from any girl....Big mouth, no balls.....

You're pathetic.

[graywolf624]

if you say so!!
Hey you should know, aren't you two classmates in preschool? lol

you obviously missed my point!!

Point? You had a point?

[nthfinity]

i cant say i did much wrestling in HS... but i can definately say it was great fun, and depending on how the match would go (win by points were serious exhausters) it was always a serious workout.

i was ok at wrestling, but a star with baseball... if only i'd have played for the team in HS... but sillly ISEF took all my free time those years :?

i had no interest in playing football, terrible at basketball...

anyway. Roman Grecco wresting is definately far from gay... very very far.

[Mattk]

I was never large enough to be a wrestler. In fact, I wasn't particularly good at any sport in particular, so in my final year of school, I focused on refereeing.

[ZfrkS62]

^ there were weight classes for featherweights ya know.

[SFDMALEX]

Ehhh.....why dont you boys wrap up put some boxing gloves on and hit the ring...If you last a round on you first day I'll give you 100$.

[graywolf624]

The lightest weight class in high school, if memory serves me, was 103 lbs.. If he's too light for that then hes prolly a midget.

why dont you boys wrap up put some boxing gloves on and hit the ring...If you last a round on you first day I'll give you 100$.
Too late, we use to do that at parties for fun.. Part of that is explained by my first head coach in college being in UFC. At least one of my former teammates now compete in UFC. So I guess Im disqualified for the first day giveaway.. Damn!

*Not that Im good at boxing, but from my fooling around goofing off experience its definitly not as intense for such a short period as wrestling. At least in boxing you can move away from your opponent for a little bit to catch your breath, albeit by dancing. You can't do that in wrestling. They are two seperate skill sets, but Im still firmly convinced theres not sport that is more intense per minute.

[SFDMALEX]

/\/\/\ UFC is lame, the American rules just kill it to be honest. Too many restrictions, I'd much rather watch K1...

Wreslting sure is intense, I wrestle with my buddies from time to time but I can never learn to preserve my energy, I go in way hot and I'm spent 5 min after. My flexibility still is tough to get around...but doing the splits is getting harder and harder lately :(

[graywolf624]

UFC is lame, the American rules just kill it to be honest.
Thats what the former teammate says but he still does it. I think the worse part is when they try to fight from their back.. Thats when you truely see how hobbeled the rules make them, cause if you layed on your back and kicked at me from the fetal position ID positively destroy you*.. Its not where you want to be against anyone that knows what they are doing yet in UFC its done all the time.

*Not even that Im some badass, its just that much of a screw up.

[ZfrkS62]

UFC is lame, the American rules just kill it to be honest.
Thats what the former teammate says but he still does it. I think the worse part is when they try to fight from their back.. Thats when you truely see how hobbeled the rules make them, cause if you layed on your back and kicked at me from the fetal position ID positively destroy you*.. Its not where you want to be against anyone that knows what they are doing yet in UFC its done all the time.

*Not even that Im some badass, its just that much of a screw up.

Who is your ex teammate? my roomate and coworker watches UFC religously.

Deigo Sanchez is one of my favorites. I usually hate it when they go into the ground and pound, but it's a hell of a lot more interesting when Diego gets into it because he can end the fight quickly from there.

For those who don't know, Sanchez is a state champion wresler from New Mexico.

And Alex, i dare you to go up to someone like Chuck Lidell and tel him how lame the UFC is :wink:

[RC45]

Dirty Sanchez? :shock: This topic is all weird...

[ZfrkS62]

Dirty Sanchez? :shock: This topic is all weird...

better get your reading glasses old man :lol:

[SFDMALEX]

And Alex, i dare you to go up to someone like Chuck Lidell and tel him how lame the UFC is :wank:

I will. What will he do? Beat me up? Now that will be classy of him...And would prove how lame the whole UFC scene is in all aspects.


Sorry but half the guys in UFC got no power at all. The other half just doesnt know to throw a punch period...

I will take any top 10 heavy boxer right now to take out any UFC heavy. It wont even go to ground, the first punch the boxer lands will knock out those guys cold.

Please tell me how can a guy who weighs 200lb land a flush punch on the chin and not knock a guy out, or seriously get him in trouble. Now dont tell me the other guy has a granite chin....I see these guys standing after getting a knee to the face whilst being completly gassed and still stand...

UFC is lame, it's all we got here in North America so I guess we have to live with it. But this still doesnt change the fact that you can count the really good guys on your fingers and the rest is utter shite. I want to see a UFC guy take a soccer kick to the face, get roundhouse kicked by someone who actually knows what he is doing and then look at him.

If you want real fighting watch some K1 footage.


UFC is a JOKE!

Here

http://www.wildko.com/media.php?view.1604.0.10

[Mattk]

In Australia, the number of people interested in wrestling during high school is similar to the number of people who are still virgins by the time they're married. That is, not many. The lack of exposure was probably another factor to my not taking up wrestling.

[ZfrkS62]

And Alex, i dare you to go up to someone like Chuck Lidell and tel him how lame the UFC is :wank:

I will. What will he do? Beat me up? Now that will be classy of him...And would prove how lame the whole UFC scene is in all aspects.


Sorry but half the guys in UFC got no power at all. The other half just doesnt know to throw a punch period...

I will take any top 10 heavy boxer right now to take out any UFC heavy. It wont even go to ground, the first punch the boxer lands will knock out those guys cold.

Please tell me how can a guy who weighs 200lb land a flush punch on the chin and not knock a guy out, or seriously get him in trouble. Now dont tell me the other guy has a granite chin....I see these guys standing after getting a knee to the face whilst being completly gassed and still stand...

UFC is lame, it's all we got here in North America so I guess we have to live with it. But this still doesnt change the fact that you can count the really good guys on your fingers and the rest is utter shite.

If you want real fighting watch some K1 footage.


UFC is a JOKE!

I agree that it was alo better when you could kick them when they went down, but i doubt your boxers are going to hang knuckle to knuckle :wink:

[SFDMALEX]

your boxers are going to hang knuckle to knuckle :wank:

THere is no need to hang, one shot, boom boom UFC guy down on the floor like never before.

Man throw in a guy like Sam Peter, fucking tank that man, one looping punch from that man with no glove on and he will fracture your scull.
I dont think you quite understand how strong a top heavy boxer is.

You do realize that boxers break their hands if punching withouht gloves unwrapped right?

Tyson- THe guy broke his hand after knocking some d00de out on the street.

Vitali Klitschko- This guy over here
http://www.reviewjournal.com/lvrj_home/2004/Dec-11-Sat-2004/photos/vitali.jpg

He broke his hands while in the fight being wrapped up in gloves...

The power that a top heavy has in his hands is enough to litteraly make your head bounce as if you where in a car accident.

George Forman- This guy broke figheters ribs with gloves on. SHit no glove and he'll just put his arm through your rib cage.

[SFDMALEX]

I agree that it was alo better when you could kick them when they went down

Man it is not even the pussy rules, it's straight up lack of talent.

Everytime I watch a UFC fight, apart from the very few fighters like Chuck, I see complete retards who dont know wtf they are doing.

What I see is a bunch of wankers who cant throw a jab properly, forget about an upper cut or a proper straight right.

What I see is guys who have zero ground work ability. I mean have these guys dont even have the legs flexible enough to do anything effective...

It's like these guys know how to do a lot of things, just only very little in each discipline.

[ZfrkS62]

talk is cheap. Lets set up a crossover bout :D

[SFDMALEX]

talk is cheap. Lets set up a crossover bout :D

I dont think any UFC guy will have the balls to be honest.

[graywolf624]

UFC is lame, it's all we got here in North America so I guess we have to live with it. But this still doesnt change the fact that you can count the really good guys on your fingers and the rest is utter shite.
Thats the case with almost all fighters. We get k1 here as well (and many of the same issues as in the ufc are present, especially rule wise), and while its better then UFC I have to disagree strongly with your boxing comment. Why? Quite frankly the boxers are missing the same thing most of the pure one martial arts guys are. Any fight ultimately will reach a stage in close. A boxer wouldnt know what to do grappling. George forman or such is great from a swing stand point but if you knocked him down using a kick you could easily make it so he couldnt punch you.. Lets put it this way.. Id put up 100 dollars that someone even 100 lbs heavier then me couldnt hit me if they let me get a grip to begin with and they didnt have training in grappling. Its not hard to believe that someone with abilities well beyond mind from standing could easily get to the grip point I could never hope to make against someone at this level. You can't punch someone if your arms are pinned behind your back.

Who is your ex teammate? my roomate and coworker watches UFC religously.
The UFC has amateur matches in addition to what is televised, needless to say neither are quite at the televised level. Im not comfortable saying my buddies name here. Coaches Name is Wehby. Do a search for UFC and his name and youll see him pop up repeatedly.

[SFDMALEX]

Here is my team:

Wlad Klitschko
http://news.bbc.co.uk/olmedia/1290000/images/_1294368_klitschko_150.jpg
Sam Peter
http://www.fightnews.com/1photos/sam_peter1.jpg
Lamon Brewster
http://www.eastsideboxing.com/fotos/Brewster_5.jpg

[graywolf624]

As I stated above.. the problem is.. if there arms are pinned behind there backs it doesnt matter how good they can punch... and legs are alot longer then arms.. Its not hard to imagine them having their arms pinned.. Ive done it to people way heavier then me, cause if you dont understand the tricks to getting loose your just wasting energy.

[SFDMALEX]

UFC is lame, it's all we got here in North America so I guess we have to live with it. But this still doesnt change the fact that you can count the really good guys on your fingers and the rest is utter shite.
Thats the case with almost all fighters. We get k1 here as well (and many of the same issues as in the ufc are present, especially rule wise), and while its better then UFC I have to disagree strongly with your boxing comment. Why? Quite frankly the boxers are missing the same thing most of the pure one martial arts guys are. Any fight ultimately will reach a stage in close. A boxer wouldnt know what to do grappling. George forman or such is great from a swing stand point but if you knocked him down using a kick you could easily make it so he couldnt punch you.. Lets put it this way.. Id put up 100 dollars that someone even 100 lbs heavier then me couldnt hit me if they let me get a grip to begin with and they didnt have training in grappling. Its not hard to believe that someone with abilities well beyond mind from standing could easily get to the grip point I could never hope to make against someone at this level. You can't punch someone if your arms are pinned behind your back.


I hear you loud and clear.

I am saying that UFC guys are utter shit. Hence they are not good at anything they do.

I do not beleive for a second that you or anyone more then 100lb will be able to get in a close enough range with a 6 foot 5 heavy to put him down on the floor.

So really its a 50/50 toss if you have a good grappler and a boxer going at it. THe grappler has to get close enough to the boxer first. I fear that if he gets close he will get picked apart by jabs alone.

Again you have to keep in mind the power these guys have. Quite a few of them will simply be strong enough to push you away. if you get their hands tied.


Again if you can get this 6 foot 7 250 pound guy on the floor and keep him on the floor then I give you credit
http://www.klitschko.com/duels/duel_w_040410/r_pix_duel/wlad_14.jpg

Mind you this d00de in particular knocked guys out with jabs.



Edit- Anyway I am only talking about UFC Vs. American Boxing specificaly. I doubt a boxer would survive with a top calibre K1 fighter.
UFC guys are simply shit, and due to the rules they are not trained to expect what they would in a more fee and up for grabs battle.

[graywolf624]

Your forgetting even k1 and boxing have weight classes.

I do not beleive for a second that you or anyone more then 100lb will be able to get in a close enough range with a 6 foot 5 heavy to put him down on the floor.
I particularly discluded me cause I have no real kicking or punching ability, but you have to remember legs are longer then feet. And you also have to remember that the boxers arent the only ones that are strong(that and both of these departments have weight classes). Ive actually (out of shape a year after retiring from a broken arm and joint problems) volunteered to wrestle with a 280 lb 6 7 guy who was a former boxer and current college football player.. I pinned the guy to his back and held him there with his hands underneath him in less then a minute.. now granted no punches were involved, but he wasnt able to push me away. Part of that is because pushing often isnt the best choice of action in grappling, as that can be taken advantage of as well. Its all about balance and hip movements.


Now if I knew martial arts and managed to kick him just enough to get him off balance Id have my grip. I don't.. but then again Im not going to be doing ufc or k1 or fighting of any type and Im already 3 years out of wrestling. Chances are other then coaching young kids I'll never compete again.

For reference, in my hay day I wasnt a small guy.. 180 lbs 6'. Ive digressed a bit as age has begun to creep up and I went from 3 hr a day workouts to 2 days a week at best. At one point wrestling was my life outside of school.

UFC guys are simply shit, and due to the rules they are not trained to expect what they would in a more fee and up for grabs battle
Agreed, but k1 has alot of these same rule flaws..

[SFDMALEX]

/\/\/\ I see what you are saying and to be straight with you, I dont not believe in guys from different disciplines fighting. It is like getting two people who speak a different language to communicate. Sure they will make something out of it, but it wont be much.

A lot like you just never know what a boxer doing his game plan and a wrestler working his plan will yield. You just dont know.

What I am saying though that I am amazed at the level of shit I see in UFC. I honestly feel like if I at this very moment, dropped everything I am doing and hit the gym for 2 months I would be able to hang with a good chunk of the guys in UFC, and all I do is casual boxing, kick boxing or whatever the guys at my friends gym are up to.
I am not talkiong about champs here, just your average Spike TV UFC fight...Oh and honestly you know that TUF show? Man I feel like I could actually make it quite far in that show, cause the fighters there are simply put are jokes.


BTW Looks like you are in the same class as me, I'm 6 foot 1 about 180 (swimmer built), but I loose and gain weight on demand so that changes dramaticaly. For example I havent eaten much this week so I dropped quite a few lb.

[graywolf624]

I am not talkiong about champs here, just your average Spike TV UFC fight...Oh and honestly you know that TUF show? Man I feel like I could actually make it quite far in that show, cause the fighters there are simply put are jokes.
No arguements here, but isnt that the point of the TUF show? To take people like you and train them to become fighters.. not that they start like that.

I see what you are saying and to be straight with you, I dont not believe in guys from different disciplines fighting. It is like getting two people who speak a different language to communicate. Sure they will make something out of it, but it wont be much.
See thats where we differ. I feel the key to fighting is knowing multiple disciplines so you can adapt to your opponents style.

[SFDMALEX]

No arguements here, but isnt that the point of the TUF show? To take people like you and train them to become fighters.. not that they start like that..

No no man. They are "hand picked from thousands of contestants" based on their knowledge of martial arts blah blah blah. It's not just some guys off the streets, they are supposedly fighters just not big time show men.


See thats where we differ. I feel the key to fighting is knowing multiple disciplines so you can adapt to your opponents style.

Oh I agree.

What I mean to say that if you take a traditionaly trained boxer. A traditionary trained roman greco wrestler, both men lets say know their discipline very well, but thats all they know.

If thats the case I dont see a winner, I see it as a toss, its either the boxer if he lands his punch first, or the wreslter if he manages to get to the boxers legs.

[graywolf624]

No no man. They are "hand picked from thousands of contestants" based on their knowledge of martial arts blah blah blah. It's not just some guys off the streets, they are supposedly fighters just not big time show men.
ummm ok.. I just considered it another reality show lol.

A traditionary trained roman greco wrestler, both men lets say know their discipline very well, but thats all they know.

If thats the case I dont see a winner, I see it as a toss, its either the boxer if he lands his punch first, or the wreslter if he manages to get to the boxers legs.
I agree wholeheartedly.. But that obviously wasnt the direction I had in mind lol..

[ZfrkS62]

Ive digressed a bit as age has begun to creep up


:lol: damn that sounds familiar :lol: i don't know about you, but if i don't crack my back first thing when i wake up in the am, i'm miserable the rest of the day :(

There is a reason its referred to as Mixed Martial Arts. so a boxer vs. a K1 or a UFC fighter is a plausible fight. as long as the boxer can say on his feet and keep enough distance to get in his power and accuracy, he should fare well. But if you place him a against a grappler, then he's going to be in trouble.

[graywolf624]

i don't know about you, but if i don't crack my back first thing when i wake up in the am, i'm miserable the rest of the day
Well I have 2 big things:
1)Genetic defect in my back kept me from walking onto gt football(see liability comment). Yes I need to crack my back just like you, but other then shoveling snow its not bothering me on a day to day basis if I crack it.
2) Im seeing the early onset of arthritis in my limbs. After I retired from wrestling(I broke my arm my sophmore year in college and when I attempted a return my jr year people just went after that arm.) I went on to play rugby and coach wrestling. During that time period I noticed that my knees would swell up like a baseball after practice and my hips started to pop when I took shots. Good sign its about time to hang it up.

[blinkmeat]

I heard that someone shit in CHYNA'S gym bag before she left the WWGHEY

That my my day 8)

[ZfrkS62]

i don't know about you, but if i don't crack my back first thing when i wake up in the am, i'm miserable the rest of the day
Well I have 2 big things:
1)Genetic defect in my back kept me from walking onto gt football(see liability comment). Yes I need to crack my back just like you, but other then shoveling snow its not bothering me on a day to day basis if I crack it.
2) Im seeing the early onset of arthritis in my limbs. After I retired from wrestling(I broke my arm my sophmore year in college and when I attempted a return my jr year people just went after that arm.) I went on to play rugby and coach wrestling. During that time period I noticed that my knees would swell up like a baseball after practice and my hips started to pop when I took shots. Good sign its about time to hang it up.

yeah, i hear you there :| fortunately i haven't gotten to that point yet, t i do have noises coming from places that should be quiet everynow and then.

[SFDMALEX]

Well I stopped cracking my knuckles, I have to start cracking my back though......that one cant be good.