30" Dell 3007WFP LCD

[evoWalo]

http://img.dell.com/images/global/brand/subpage/monitor3007wfp_splash.jpg

Display Size: 30 inch
Response Time: 11ms
Brightness: 400cd/m2
Contrast: 700:1
Viewing Angle: 178/178
Native Resolution: WQXGA (2560 x 1600)
PC Connectivity: DVI-D (Dual link) x 1 with HDCP
Others: 4-Port USB Hub, 9-in-1 Multimedia Card Reader/Slots, Height Adjustable Stand, Swivel & Tilt. (No pivot)

Talk about kitty killing abilities. :D I hope this means that the 24" 2405FPW goes down in price. :)

[racer_f50]

damn that's huge :shock:

you'd need a seriously powerful machine to run games at it's native resolution, though. i wonder if it looks fuzzy at lower resolutions like most LCDs?

[evoWalo]

Nothing a couple of Nvidia 7800GTX 512MBs in SLI mode cant handle ;) I'd be more than happy with the older 24". 30" would force me to buy a PCI Express mainboard.

[exhausted mules]

That's too big for me :? I have a 17in LCD screen and it's enough. A 20in would be good too... but 30in is just over-sized :?

... even the 1600x1200 pics would be low-res then :P

that's good.

i thought the 19inch was a bit overboard.

[pzgren]

not bad but i would prefer one of these:

http://www.go-l.com/monitors/grand_canyon/features/grand_3.jpg
http://www.go-l.com/monitors/athens/features/athens_2.jpg

[MartijnGizmo]

Man, that's gonna hurt your neck. You'd probably have to move your head quite a lot watching from left to right.

[saadie]

^^ that will work nice as a panoramic window .. lol :shock:
btw .. jabba's got one of those too 8)

[Banchi105]

A claimed 11ms response time - Wow, I wonder how accurate it is?

I pretty sure the bigger the panel the harder quick response times are...


Running your LCD at non-native resolutions all depends on the quality of scaler built into your screen. My 20.1" Viewsonic LCD has a native resolution of 1600x1200 and will downscale to 1280x1024 and 1024x768 beautifully. You almost can't tell a difference between these and native. However try bringing it to 800x600 or lower and you will see some irregularities caused by the scaling process. But why would you use a 20" screen at those low resolutions anyway?

[AlienDB7]

With so many pixels on the 30" screen, wonder if it's even possible to get one without a dead pixel... given Dell's reputation.

Imagine watching Top Gear on that 30" LCD :drool:

[Banchi105]

Probably a low probability with that many pixels. However, anyone thats ever used a deadpixel monitor will let you know that you stop noticing it within the first couple minutes of use.

The only kind that are really annoying are the Stuck Pixels.

[evoWalo]

With so many pixels on the 30" screen, wonder if it's even possible to get one without a dead pixel... given Dell's reputation.

Imagine watching Top Gear on that 30" LCD :drool:
It would look bad up front. HDTV maxes out at 1920x1080 while the 30" is 2560x1600 and Top Gear isnt even broadcasted in HD format. An episode of Top Gear found on the web comes in at 350MB/700MB with resolutions that doesnt approach mid-triple digits.


If you were too watch TG with it I'd sit a few feet away so I wouldnt see all the ugly pixels.

Imaging how many windows you can keep open at the same time.

[AlienDB7]

Probably a low probability with that many pixels. However, anyone thats ever used a deadpixel monitor will let you know that you stop noticing it within the first couple minutes of use.

The only kind that are really annoying are the Stuck Pixels.
Statistically, higher # of pixels = higher probability of dead pixels. A rough estimate for the 30" is around 5.2x higher chance to get at least one dead pixel when compared to a lcd with 1024x768 native resolution.

I had couple of dead pixels on my thinkpad and I can tell you, they get more annoying by the minute!! End up shipping it back and got a replacement after several days :x

[Banchi105]

I was replying to your post, so by saying a low probability I meant a low probability of getting a screen without any dead pixels.

Your one of the very few people who I've heard had a major issue with them. unless they are clustered together, most people don't have much of a problem with them.

On my old LCD screen I had two dead pixels and didn't really bother me at all, I have none on my viewsonic though.

I guess to each his own. I'd be more willing to sacrifice to get away from a CRT.

Also with Dell you can send it back as many times as you want to get a perfect screen.

[DeMoN]

i have the 2405fpw paired with SLI dual 6900 ultra GeForce and MY GOD its great. 30" I think thats too much. My 24" seems too big as it is to play games. The 2005fpw isnt as good due to the lack of component cables. The 2405fpw is great. I really dont see myself being able to stare at 30" while playing games.

[DeMoN]

damn that's huge :shock:

you'd need a seriously powerful machine to run games at it's native resolution, though. i wonder if it looks fuzzy at lower resolutions like most LCDs?

When I bring res lower than 1920x1200 you dont see it as crisp, but its not as fuzzy as when you shrink resolution in laptops. When you run a game or anything in less than 1920x1200 on my screen and you go to the setup of the monitor, it detects what resolution the game is running on and it specifically tells you that the optimum is 1920x1200. On the Dell website you'll see the video cards that support the 1920 resolution. All GeForce 6 and above work.

[ae86_16v]

I wonder if this is the same as Apple's 30" Cinema Display. I know the 20" are the same. I wonder how much it'll cost?

[SFDMALEX]

/\/\/\ It will cost too much.

Thats why Im sticking with the much better CRTs since I have enough desk space here for a 27" TV hehe

[evoWalo]

I wonder if this is the same as Apple's 30" Cinema Display. I know the 20" are the same. I wonder how much it'll cost?
Probably is but at a better price point. I'd go with Apple's Cinema Display for FW ports & industrial design thing is though it costs a bundle more than what Dell will probably sell theirs for.

I'm guessing 1,999.00 for the 30"

[ae86_16v]

I wonder if this is the same as Apple's 30" Cinema Display. I know the 20" are the same. I wonder how much it'll cost?
Probably is but at a better price point. I'd go with Apple's Cinema Display for FW ports & industrial design thing is though it costs a bundle more than what Dell will probably sell theirs for.

I'm guessing 1,999.00 for the 30"

Yeah good point. If it will be priced at $1,999 that will be one hell of a deal compared to Apple's $2,999.

I think this Dell one will have at least 4 USB 2.0 ports like their other Digital Monitors.

Your right though, you are paying a premium for Apple's style.

[DeMoN]

good thing bout dell is that you can find coupons several times. Right now the 2405fpw is selling for over 1k but I got it 5 or 6 months ago for 950.

[ae86_16v]

good thing bout dell is that you can find coupons several times. Right now the 2405fpw is selling for over 1k but I got it 5 or 6 months ago for 950.

Yeah, I just picked up the 20" WS for $340 about 3 weeks ago w/ stackable coupons.

[evoWalo]

It's gonna be $2199.00 for this monster.

http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/ProductDetail.aspx?sku=3007WY3&c=us&cat=snp&category_id=6198&cs=19&l=en&Page=productlisting.aspx

[Banchi105]

Not bad. Maybe I could build a nice HTPC setup around it?

[exhausted mules]

hell no...

games

games

games

i can only imagine FEAR or BATTLEFIELD2 on this.

[DeMoN]

^ I think your head would hurt. I have a hard time already at 24" Cant imagine my headache at 30" playing fear.

[exhausted mules]

you have to put it further back.

though at this point... it would be better to run the video through a projector and play on a 12 foot wide screen.

[DeMoN]

its as far back as it goes and it still makes me move my head to see the sides.

[evoWalo]

I doubt any sub-$2200 projector can do the resolution of the 30" Dell LCD

[DeMoN]

what are responce times of projectors?

LCD monitors provide a crappy refresh rate which makes FPS on games bad... my monitor has 12ms responce and I can still notice a tiny lag if I start dancing like a bailarina on first person shooters such as fear lol.

[exhausted mules]

i think projectors dont have problems with refresh rates but with lower priced or budjet projectors the problems are video encoding and contrast.

colors that are off temp and low resolution.

but i'm pretty sure with a good mid projector like the new focus' can be tweaked with a computer to provide exceptional proformance figures.

the difference with computer monitors and projectors is that computer monitors are meant to be viewed from real close and projectors from far back.

that's why i'm saying it kinda defeats the purpose of having a massive screen in front of your face when your on the comp. lcd's aren't as smooth as conventianal lamp prjectors and tend to be harsher on the eyes.

i have a 1 inch from dell now and wouldn't think of buying another one unless it was a real smooth display with an insanely low dotpitch so that i could put it far back and still be able to get a consistently smooth and soft image.

but then again... seeing one of these -->> :shock: at a diameter of 40 centimeters is never a bad thing either.

[DeMoN]

Well if you get those smooth displays Dell monitors like the 24 or 30" they only are smooth and great on their suggested resolution (1920x1600) so while you could put it far and see images well, I doubt you'll be able to see what you type or read JW from far lol.

[exhausted mules]

hence defeating the purpose of huge displays.

[AlienDB7]

It's gonna be $2199.00 for this monster.

http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/ProductDetail.aspx?sku=3007WY3&c=us&cat=snp&category_id=6198&cs=19&l=en&Page=productlisting.aspx
Meanwhile you can get it from Dell Canada $1999.00 CAD.... :roll:

[Toronto]

yep
http://accessories.dell.com/sna/ProductDetail.aspx?sku=222-0863&c=ca&l=en&cs=CADHS1&category_id=6198&first=true&page=productlisting.aspx

[DeMoN]

im sure finding coupons soon for dell usa wont be difficult. Some people always get them for nearly free to begin with just to give dell feedback on it. Just go googling for coupons for it and you are bound to find coupons, hopefully not expired ones.

[Toronto]

or you can find dell.ca coupons, save whatever coupons you can find + the 500USD you are going already save from buying in from Dell.ca