FIRST SERIOUS INJURY AS A RESULT OF JW [Archive] - Sports Car Forum

Jabba

12-06-2003, 09:34 AM

I have lost all feeling in two of my fingers since last Monday. I presumed it was some kind of cramp due to bad circulation or something and that it would go away in a few days.

Anyway I have now been told that I have suffered a RSI (Repetitive Strain Injury) due to too much and bad keyboard use:

http://eeshop.unl.edu/rsi.html

In particular I have been diagnosed with Carpal Tunnel Syndrome

http://www.cfpc.ca/English/cfpc/programs/patient%20education/carpal/default.asp?s=1

I will now probably require surgery to repair my tendon. I haven't even been to a doctor in 14 years let alone a damn hospital...so you can imagine how much I am looking forward to that.

Anyway I always thought all these types of injurys were bullshit and just another excuse to sue Microsoft...I can now confirm they are very real and not nice at all....

I have been working on keyboards since I was eight years old and I cant believe that this has happened to me now....especially as I was thinking about having another go with dragon naturally speaking (voice recognition software)...its one of those things that you never think is going to happen to you.....until it does....

Its taken me ages to type this out with one hand so I hope it might be a warning to the other heavy posters here...and of course expect alot less and smaller posts from me until my other hand has recovered. :( :( :(

fishfreek

12-06-2003, 09:59 AM

:( :( :(

Sorry to hear that jabba. I have seen some very interesting keyboard designs that are supposed to aleveate the stress from keyboard use. Some are split in half and the keys are mounted vertically and you use it with your hands in a stright out position with your thumb up in the air like your shaking hands.

Good luck with your recovery.

Jabba

12-06-2003, 10:06 AM

I have also got a MS natural keyboard on one of my computers that I have been using for about 6 months...I cant help thinking that this might have been the thing that might have triggered it all off...

fishfreek

12-06-2003, 10:14 AM

:shock: We get them for employees that are suffering carpel tunel syndrome. The design is supposed to help since its made to keep your hand, rist and lower arm all in alighment.

12-06-2003, 10:19 AM

Shit, my grandma had carpal tunnel syndrom since many years now :( she already got surgery more than once but the pain still come back every now and then :(... that suck to hear that Jabba...

Jabba

12-06-2003, 10:21 AM

:shock: We get them for employees that are suffering carpel tunel syndrome. The design is supposed to help since its made to keep your hand, rist and lower arm all in alighment.

I have been using it in a very bad way though so I guess I have only got myself to blame....can you carry on using the keyboard after you have had the operation for the carpal tunnel syndrome fishfreek ??

1zippo1

12-06-2003, 10:25 AM

Shit, really bad to hear that jabba!! Don't know what to say about it... I study IT so typing less isn't really an option. But I do wish you the best of luck with your surgery!! And plz keep us informed when possible on your condition!

my greetings to you mate!

ferrari550

12-06-2003, 10:25 AM

Sorry to hear about this jabba, this is not good news at all. I do not know anybody who has carpel tunnel so i am not sure what it is like, but i can only imagine what you are going through. all i can say is that i hope you get through this jabba!

possessed_beaver

12-06-2003, 10:32 AM

so a new computer on the way, and you will be unable to use it! :(

Jabba

12-06-2003, 10:45 AM

I still have one hand and dragon voice recorgniation software so you wont beat me that easily.

fishfreek

12-06-2003, 10:46 AM

Once you recover from the physical surgery part yes you can continue to use the keyboard.

You might be given a rist brace or they might go as far as to try to teach you the 'proper' way to use the keyboard.

On thing that helps is to take breaks. Type for a few min and then rest your arms and hands off the keyboard for a period, etc.

All carpel tunel really is is tendonitus of the rist/hand. Simular to the ol tennis elbow.

Jabba

12-06-2003, 10:47 AM

Yep I understand...I think it should really be called "Post Whore Syndrome"

Jabba

12-06-2003, 10:49 AM

I can only find V6 of dragon naturally speaking from my normal sources...does anyone have or know where I can get version 7 from ?

Kangaroo Boy

12-06-2003, 11:13 AM

I thought you where in hospitial because some happend on your site and it has place you in there.But anyway,.you got nothing to really worry about,its not like you got gout,or arthritis in your whole hand.Are you going to sue jabbasworld for being a addictive site? :lol:

Jabba

12-06-2003, 11:17 AM

Thanks for your sympathy Kangaroo. :P

Kangaroo Boy

12-06-2003, 11:24 AM

Your welcome.But anyway,Good luck,With the operation...You should be using keyboard within a month after the operation...It could be worse..Ever had Wankas cramp for 2 days staight?

BADMIHAI

12-06-2003, 11:30 AM

Ever had Wankas cramp for 2 days staight?

All kitty killers have had that in some point of their life.
:)

I'm sorry Jabba! I'm sure you'll recover just fine. I guess you'll be taking a little brake soon, right?

Jabba

12-06-2003, 11:32 AM

While I have one hand and a mouth you will always hear from me....I think it would be taking the piss a bit to ask for a keyboard in the recovery room though.

Kangaroo Boy

12-06-2003, 11:36 AM

lol,Should ask for the keyboad..^^^See what the nurse says about that?

fedezyl

12-06-2003, 11:44 AM

I'm sorry to hear that jabba, I hope you recover soon, I also have Microsoft's Natural keyboard and it feels comfortable, much more than a regular one, of course I don't type as much as you do...
Hope you get better soon! :wink:

robruf

12-06-2003, 12:03 PM

That is too bad Jabba, sorry to hear about your injury. Hopefully you will recover just fine and be back to your normal self very soon. Here's wishing you a speedy and smooth recovery.

AlienDB7

12-06-2003, 12:10 PM

Sorry to hear that jabba, hope you get well soon. This got me thinking a bit... maybe I really should get a better chair and table. It sometimes hurts to use the keyboard and mouse, maybe it's a sign that I may get rsi in the future :( Luckily, usually resting for few days will cure all the pain. I've threw away the stupid gel wrist pad since then, that seemed to solve half of the problem. Like the site says, don't rest on the wrist pads, they're bad!

Thanks for the info on the matter, seems like I've been doing most of the things right except for the sitting position and "rest". Guess I better go get a proper chair with better support this christmas. Any of you got any good suggestion as to which type of chairs is good to prevent RSI.. hopefully it's not too late. Don't want to leave all the nice people at JW you know.

Get some rest jabba. Looks like I should do the same for at least couple of days too... all the coding from last week has been giving me a sore wrist (no, not the kitten killing!). Time to force myself to stay away from the computer and do some dead-tree reading.

Jabba, you should try to get a hot female physiotherapist to teach you how to do http://eeshop.unl.edu/s_sr.gif :) That should speed up your recovery!

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SFDMALEX

12-06-2003, 12:45 PM

I'm sorry to hear that Jabba. I'm sure you'll recover soon, good luck with the operation.

P.S Make sure you get some nurse pussy in the hospital :wink:

jon_s

12-06-2003, 02:00 PM

Wow! That ain't good news! Hope it all gets better. I think I will keep this post short lol

Johns

12-06-2003, 02:27 PM

dammn that sucks! maybe this will work, stick your fingers into some fresh poon tang :lol: :lol: j/k hope u get better :)

jon_s

12-06-2003, 02:36 PM

Employ a money to do the typing :D

draak666

12-06-2003, 02:46 PM

I guess you mean a monkey, jon_s. :wink:

We all hope you'll recover really well, Jabba.

SL55 AMG

12-06-2003, 02:50 PM

damn that sucks Jabba, sorry bout what has happened hope the pain goes away and u recover soon

jon_s

12-06-2003, 03:56 PM

I guess you mean a monkey, jon_s. :wink:

We all hope you'll recover really well, Jabba.

gis

12-06-2003, 04:44 PM

wow,sorry to hear this jabba,im sure you will make a speedy recovery,keep us updated with your situation :)

if u need sum1 to drive you around in the 355 and diablo,im here jabba,dont hesitate to ask..............honestly,its no trouble what so ever, :mrgreen: LOL j/k dude

get well soon :D

Jabba

12-06-2003, 05:41 PM

I have now got my Dragon voice recognition software installed and it's not bad at all. I will probably wear my voice out next. :?

12-06-2003, 05:45 PM

Shit, if also the voice will be gone you're left with the feet... and I don't want to imagine what will be next :P

Jabba

12-06-2003, 05:49 PM

I wish I could connect my brain via USB2 and the words appear on the screen as I think of them. Hopefully thats something we might see in the future

SilverandColdS4

12-06-2003, 05:50 PM

sorry to hear about that Jabba. :( feel better man

666fast

12-06-2003, 06:16 PM

I wish I could connect my brain via USB2 and the words appear on the screen as I think of them. Hopefully thats something we might see in the future

Heh, no more typos and cool intarnet talk for the haxx0rs d0od! LOL

Sorry to hear you've gotten Carpal Tunnel man, that sucks. I hope the operation to correct it goes well!
My mother got Carpal Tunnel from work (from typing), she had the surgery and she is all fine now. She says every now and then it'll cramp up a bit, but it's not too bad. Hell, she has the same job, she has one of those special keyboards now too.

Jabba

12-06-2003, 06:28 PM

It's amazing to hear that so many people have suffered from this. I would recommend getting Dragon voice recognition software
you won't believe how much easier and how much time it saves making posts on here. I doubt I will be going back to full keyboard use even after my hand has been fixed now.

12-06-2003, 06:32 PM

I had one of the first voice recognition programs available to the wide public maybe 6 or more years ago, and I remember it was already pretty good after some "training" :D

AlienDB7

12-06-2003, 06:35 PM

Is the MS natural keyboard really that good? Tried using one a while back, it felt kinda weird. Guess if it really help reduce strain, it's well worth the effort to adapt to a new keyboard.

Good to hear voice recognition is working well for you, so you'll be making twice the number of posts now? ;)

Anile8er

12-06-2003, 06:35 PM

Jabba

12-06-2003, 06:37 PM

I had one of the first voice recognition programs available to the wide public maybe 6 or more years ago, and I remember it was already pretty good after some "training" :D

Yes they have come on a lot since I last used version 5 and also a faster processor helps it guess the correct sentences. I am using it along with my mouse and the keyboard every so often with one hand and it seems to be a great combination. I don't think you could really control the whole PC with voice recognition but for typing posts it's definitely much quicker and of course the spelling is going to be accurate as well.

Jabba

12-06-2003, 06:42 PM

sorry to hear that jabba that suks ass i play cs alot (FPS) and im affiard im gonna get it to i found out if u use a ECO keyboard and put ur hands on the keybaord for ur typing with the side of ur fingers instead of the tips it help soooo much hard to get use to but works for long msges and gameing

P.s. Looking for the exe but there the serial

DRAGON NATURALLY SPEAKING V7.0 PREFERRED SERIAL
A109A-G00-006420

I only have version 6 at the moment and the single word recognition is crap but it's very very good at recognising whole sentences so I guess it has some artificial intelligence built in there somewhere now.

AlienDB7

12-06-2003, 06:45 PM

Maybe dragon naturally speaking is having problem recognizing non american accent?

Jabba

12-06-2003, 06:48 PM

It has language options now French Spanish British etc... I could probably spend more time training it but for now the level of accuracy definitely makes it quicker not slower than typing.... even with one or two hands in my case.

AlienDB7

12-06-2003, 07:04 PM

Cool.. should check it out sometime.

Chingachgook

12-06-2003, 07:22 PM

Sorry to hear that Jabba, I hope everything will go well. I'll take seriously those kind of injuries. And I think I'll try the software for voice recognition...it seems interesting

geekdiggy

12-06-2003, 08:02 PM

Shit, if also the voice will be gone you're left with the feet... and I don't want to imagine what will be next :P

athlete's foot?

that's rough news jabba but thanks for the new sig :D

Nemisis8u

12-06-2003, 08:51 PM

Man, that really sucks. Im sorry to hear that.

maalox

12-07-2003, 12:50 AM

I had to go through all the voice recognition bullshit this summer after I got repetitive strain in both wrists (8+ hours computer stuff at job plus regular stuff when I got home was overdoing I guess hah). I didn't expect it at all until it came on strong. It sucked but after taking a break for about two months and making some changes (ergonomics, stretching if I know I'm typing for a while) I'm pretty much better. Still, it sucks that you have to go into surgery. Unfortunately it may be up to six months until you can really get back into things. Good luck with everything.

troskap

12-07-2003, 03:09 AM

Urgh! This sucks to see, Jabba!

I did have a friend that went through some ops for CPS, and if it does make you feel better, he did recover, like maalox did. Of course, since he was a net addict, keeping him away from the keyboard for the 3 months was a nasty business. It's unbelievable the extents his wife went to keep him away from the keyboard.... :twisted:

No, not THAT. Dirty people.... :wink:

scubywrxr

12-07-2003, 04:12 AM

Shit! So sorry to hear about your wrists guy.. take it easy and I hope that ur surgery is successful!

Love the snow ! by the way..

WhiteP

12-07-2003, 05:23 AM

Sorry to hear that :cry: Jabba, may be you should take some rest, we can always wait for you to recover.. and I m sure you will recover quickly

Billyjuan

12-07-2003, 06:01 AM

Holy Shit Man! :( Sorry to hear that :cry: , i wish u the best of luck with your surgery. I think my mom has the same problem u have and she says the pain sucks cause u cant do that much with the pain. But there is always OxyContin for the pain :)

htfaber

12-07-2003, 09:08 AM

Sorry to hear you have Carpal Tunnel Syndrome. From a medical point of view (I study medicine) quite a lot of people have had it. Did you have surgery for it yet? They cut a ligament, which is a sort of strap around your wrist. The strap presses on your nerves and that's why your fingers tingle. The operation is fairly easy and complications are slim. The only setback is that it can come back, but in most of the situations it doesn't. Anyway I wish you all the best and if you want info you can't get from the internet just ask. Good luck!

Wide

12-07-2003, 11:38 AM

Damn that sounds bad.. Sorry to hear that Jabba.. Hope it will be ok as short as possible..

jon_s

12-07-2003, 12:29 PM

Just had a thought, can you drive?? Will you be able to drive after the operation?

Ziploc

12-07-2003, 02:56 PM

this sucks

i remember when i broke my arm and ripped all the muscles in my upper arm

my bone had healed in such away that even if i had muscles i only had 5% of movment anyway

that ment 5 gruling months in phisio therapy and im glad to say its all back to normal

i can only hope that you return to nromal jabba

novass

12-08-2003, 03:16 AM

sorry to hear about this Jabba. i can understand your pain, ive been working on my 2d animation final for the past couple of days and it feels like my hand is gonna fall off.

get well soon :D

stradale

12-08-2003, 09:10 AM

This is bad news Jabba. It's one those things that makes one realise all the things we take for granted. I hope your surgery will go well and that you recover soon. Good to see that it won't stop you from "post whoring" here! That Dragon software sounds nice (can it scroll down internet pages as well?). Maybe it's something for me too, because sometimes I can feel a little pain in my shoulder when I've been checking JW out. It doesn't stop me from visiting this site all the time though.

geekdiggy

03-10-2004, 01:56 AM

yo jabba, i've been meaning to ask you what's the update on your diagnosis and treatment and what not

crazyxzer0

03-10-2004, 02:03 AM

I'm already starting to feel the hands started to build up for carpal. That's not good for jabba at all. hope surgery goes well jab!

Jabba

03-10-2004, 07:36 AM

Thanks for asking....I had a course of steroid injections and a course of anti inflammatory tablets....combined with a massive reduction in posting on JW and uploading videos...I would say that I am almost 95 % cured....its the rest I think more than anything that helped...and also a different keyboard and chair.....I think sometimes its a case of being patient and letting your body recover before diving right in with the knife....

geekdiggy

03-10-2004, 08:42 AM

see i knew surgery wasn't necessary. there really are exercises you can do though, i just can't fuckin remember them. and i guess sometimes yanking your cranker properly may or may not help, i'm told it supposedly promotes good hand-wrist-forearm alignement and muscle build up or some shit, either that or it was an instructors attempt to make a good excuse for masturbation

The Transporter

03-10-2004, 08:52 AM

I have a friend in Italy who have the same problem. He have to wear special gloves and he bought a new mouse especially designed for that kind of injury.

'Bon rétablissement' (in french)

Ciaoo

-pol-

SPEEDKILLAR

03-10-2004, 09:27 AM

Sorry to hear that Jabba :( , hope you'll recover soon, take some rest and leave your
keyboard hidden :wink:

Jabba

03-10-2004, 09:45 AM

hahahhaha thanks brembo....I think all the house re-decorating has helped as well...using my hands for other stuff other than keyboards and umm well :oops:

Everything is starting to settle down very nicely though thanks....I don't think I will ever catch TT though now...he has doubled my post count :twisted:

03-10-2004, 10:06 AM

Yes but just think the day my hands will simply suddently explode... :D

yg60m

03-10-2004, 10:19 AM

I saw this thread only today :oops: so i wish you to recover soon even if it seems in a good way. I wondered why you didn't post as much as before but i thought it was because of your new house.
I hope the chick you pay to type your posts is ... submissive :wink:

corvette97

03-10-2004, 11:10 AM

but JABBA can u feel ur fingers now??

Jabba

03-10-2004, 11:24 AM

Yes I have already said I am 95 % recovered now...this is quite an old thread thats been dug up...so it might be time to close it now.

geekdiggy

03-10-2004, 10:56 PM

and insult my search efforts to check up on the old jabb? how dare you :(

ae86_16v

03-11-2004, 06:09 AM

Yeah, I think the best way is just take a few min breaks in between and such. Don't type or sit in front of a computer for too long.

Best wishes towards a speedy recovery.

EDIT: Snap, I didn't even see the date on these post. Glad you are a lot better now.

Jabba

03-11-2004, 06:17 AM

and insult my search efforts to check up on the old jabb? how dare you :(

I had already thanked you for asking about how I was...it would seem not everyone reads the most recent updates though...and I cant see the point of repeating the same information over and over.... :|

geekdiggy

03-11-2004, 06:46 AM

i know :wink:

jasc

03-11-2004, 07:48 PM

Jabba, do you still want Dragon 7. I found it on IRC but the XDCC is really slow and I had to queue for 2 days. It is still downloading at ~6kbps

oscargarza88

03-11-2004, 07:59 PM

that sux jabba, im sorry
take a rest away from ur comp until u b normal again haha and then buy this: http://www.thinkgeek.com/computing/input/keyboards/5fff/
http://www.thinkgeek.com/images/products/front/touchstream.jpg
i bet its real real hard to get used to but when u get the hang of it u could type lightspeed! haha

adlinyusman

03-11-2004, 08:02 PM

oscargarza88

03-11-2004, 08:19 PM

you know jabba, when you started posting less on JW it seemed as though it was an extremely elusive event to have you pop in to a topic and saying a few words. At least i thought that was pretty cool. :lol:
i also thought that, tthere was this one topic where he asked something about the msn messenger and he got like 2 or 3 pages of responses haha, where if someone else would have posted it he would have gotten like half a page, cause jabba almosnt never makes any topics

03-11-2004, 08:28 PM

Hehe I still remember the first days, I was in the army, my girl registered my nickname just in case, but my post count was blocked at "0".. and Jabba was postwhoring allover our new home LMAO!
Sure the moving+hand combo slowed him down temporarily, but things are almost back to normal and the daddy is again the house with us :D