My Porsche 996 C2 - little update 14th may

[pzgren]

I spent a lot of hours with testing a lot of different cars after i sold my yellow Audi S4. Finally there were 3 cars left from which i had to decide

a silver M3 Cabrio with SMGII
a silver Porsche 993 Turbo
a black Porsche 996 C2

The BMW is a very nice car and the SMGII is real fun. It's absolutely crazy how fast you can change gear with those paddles. But my heart was closer to the Porsches so i had to decide between the 993 and the 996.
The 993 TT is an absolutely mindblowing car. The one i've droven a few times was equipped with factory based tuning up to 450bhp, GT2 exhaust system und GT2 clutch. the sound was..... extreme loud!!!!! if you push down the paddle you cannot breath anymore, it's that extreme fast.
but the fact ist i need to drive the car the whole year and a classic car like this you cannot drive during winter. and actually i don't have enough place in my garage for two cars so i dedided to take the 996.
It's not as fast as the TT but it's pure fun too. luckily my porsche dealer could manage that i got a license plate with 911 ending, wonderfull. :D
i'll report more facts about this car later, now it's time for the first pics i made this morning.

First, the custom shots:

http://img229.imageshack.us/img229/9650/cetti9960251et.th.jpg (http://img229.imageshack.us/my.php?image=cetti9960251et.jpg) http://img229.imageshack.us/img229/6677/cetti9960269sf.th.jpg (http://img229.imageshack.us/my.php?image=cetti9960269sf.jpg) http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/3412/cetti9960273yb.th.jpg (http://img207.imageshack.us/my.php?image=cetti9960273yb.jpg) http://img211.imageshack.us/img211/3513/cetti9960286yq.th.jpg (http://img211.imageshack.us/my.php?image=cetti9960286yq.jpg)

and here's the car

http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/8757/cetti9960058zs.th.jpg (http://img208.imageshack.us/my.php?image=cetti9960058zs.jpg) http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/9836/cetti9960065hh.th.jpg (http://img208.imageshack.us/my.php?image=cetti9960065hh.jpg) http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/8910/cetti9960092cm.th.jpg (http://img208.imageshack.us/my.php?image=cetti9960092cm.jpg)
http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/4233/cetti9960153zb.th.jpg (http://img208.imageshack.us/my.php?image=cetti9960153zb.jpg) http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/7904/cetti9960208kz.th.jpg (http://img208.imageshack.us/my.php?image=cetti9960208kz.jpg) http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/5824/cetti9960247pf.th.jpg (http://img208.imageshack.us/my.php?image=cetti9960247pf.jpg)

i'll post some more pics of it when the weather is getting better. i planed several modifications but i'll wait until spring. it doesn't make sense to make those things now at the beginning of winter time.

[TT]

Brillant!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Now you're officially in my "insist to make an indepth with his car" list :D

[No.1]

Congrats.... i think you made the right choice. The 993 is getting a bit old now, but the 996 is new enough to not have to worry about things expiring too early.

Looking forward to more pics etc :good:

[saadie]

congrats ... 8) 8)
im not a big fan of porshce ... but every porsche looks cool in black ...... nice choice :P

[sameerrao]

Congrats .. Looks like you stayed in the same VAG Porsche family 8)

[Fleischmann]

Congratulations, your the owner of a fabulous machine. And great colour for it too, black suits it best IMO. And thx for providing pics so quickly. Still, a photosession by TT wouldn't hurt :P

BTW...was it bought new/used, if so what's the mileage ?? And is it just me or has the front been modified...is that a GT3 front spoiler ??

[pzgren]

Brillant!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Now you're officially in my "insist to make an indepth with his car" list :D

i feel honored :D

BTW...was it bought new/used, if so what's the mileage ?? And is it just me or has the front been modified...is that a GT3 front spoiler ??

it's a used one, in my opinion it doesn't make sense to buy a new one because you'll loose a lot of money in the first year. the mileage is 75000 and the car is in a sensationel shape.
yup, that's correct, it has a GT3 front spoiler. more will come but as i mentioned i'll wait until spring.

[Wutputt]

Congrats with your new ride. It looks like it is in mint condition. But is a 993TT really that difficult to live with in wintertime compared to a 996 C2. I would say with its four wheel drive system and some winter wheels it would be doable?

[oscargarza88]

great car! congrats!
just like the one my dad bought...
but its weird.. cause the wheels are different, and the steering wheel.... is it becaues of the US-Euro models or soemthing like that?
and u said it has the gt3 front spoiler... thats weird casue my dads has that one too and i thought it was stock...
my dads is here: http://www.motorworld.net/forum/showthread.php?t=32369&highlight=
anywyas.
congrats and enojoy!

[pzgren]

it's not that. the problem is that we have a lot of dirt, stones, salt and other sh** on our streets during winter which is pure toxin for a 993. these cars are not build to be used during winter. you can, but any porsche dealer recommends to use another car during winter. i new a few 993 TT owners and they all don't drive it during winter time.
the problem is that a lot of openings are not close. so all the dirt, salt and other things will go inside and destroy a lot of things. with the 996 you don't have this problem because everything is closed. it's more an everyday car then the 993 TT is.

[pzgren]

great car! congrats!
just like the one my dad bought...
but its weird.. cause the wheels are different, and the steering wheel.... is it becaues of the US-Euro models or soemthing like that?
and u said it has the gt3 front spoiler... thats weird casue my dads has that one too and i thought it was stock...
my dads is here: http://www.motorworld.net/forum/showthread.php?t=32369&highlight=
anywyas.
congrats and enojoy!

this is because you're dad has the facelift model. thats why the steering wheel, rims and headlights look different. if you compare 97-2001 models you'll see that they have another front which is smaller. with the 2002 facelift the've changed also the front whick looks like the gt3 front. i don' know if there is a difference between those two fronts.

[Erez]

great car man... congrts! have fun ;)

[oscargarza88]

great car! congrats!
just like the one my dad bought...
but its weird.. cause the wheels are different, and the steering wheel.... is it becaues of the US-Euro models or soemthing like that?
and u said it has the gt3 front spoiler... thats weird casue my dads has that one too and i thought it was stock...
my dads is here: http://www.motorworld.net/forum/showthread.php?t=32369&highlight=
anywyas.
congrats and enojoy!

this is because you're dad has the facelift model. thats why the steering wheel, rims and headlights look different. if you compare 97-2001 models you'll see that they have another front which is smaller. with the 2002 facelift the've changed also the front whick looks like the gt3 front. i don' know if there is a difference between those two fronts.

ohhhh ok....
i dont remeber seing the year of your car... my bad.
and i didnt know that... id otn know these things about porsches.... thanks
personally i like ur wheels just as much as the ones my dad has... and everything else whell they r just small changes and if ur gonna mod yours then they almost dont even matter... unless there are mechanical changes too....

[corpse_grinder0]

I WANT IT!!!!!!!!!!!!! let me drive it :P great car btw. you will be pleased.

[TT]

Brillant!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Now you're officially in my "insist to make an indepth with his car" list :D

i feel honored :D

Dude, whenver you'll be in my region and you'll have some spare time, let me know :) I'll go the same if I will come up there :D

[Fleischmann]

BTW...was it bought new/used, if so what's the mileage ?? And is it just me or has the front been modified...is that a GT3 front spoiler ??

it's a used one, in my opinion it doesn't make sense to buy a new one because you'll loose a lot of money in the first year. the mileage is 75000 and the car is in a sensationel shape.


I can easily believe that, Porsche is known for the reliability of it's cars. It still has many thousands of miles to do on so have fun. Congrats once again :D

[Shinigami]

Switzerland sells so many Porches it's just crazy :D

Good looking car there, come say hello to us in Lausanne!

[pzgren]

come say hello to us in Lausanne
i'll do that!

what mods are you thinking about??
it will definitely get side skirts, other wheels (maybe black techarts), exhaust system and maybe a wing.

[ARMAN]

:P Congreats Pzgren!!! Great looking in black and with 75000 its just like new :)

[ae86_16v]

Congratulations on the car!!! Wow, it looks amazing! I always thought the intergrated single cluster headlamps of the 996 looks great!

How about an entire GT3 kit :) ?

[Ziploc]

My favourite Porsche

[stmoritzer]

Gratuliere! Great car you've choosen, I envy you :D

[blinkmeat]

3 words - congrats and VIDEO!

[dingo]

A very nice choice you made, the ordinary Carreras obviously get overshadowed by the Turbo and 4WD models but I bet its still a blast to drive! :D

Thanks for the pics, and look forward to seeing the mods you do in future.

[SilviaEvo]

wow great car! i have yet to actually sit inside a 911!

[taygunho]

Congratulations Pzgreen. You have a wonderfull car. I really envy you and I am waiting for vids and new pics.

[Wutputt]

it's not that. the problem is that we have a lot of dirt, stones, salt and other sh** on our streets during winter which is pure toxin for a 993. these cars are not build to be used during winter. you can, but any porsche dealer recommends to use another car during winter. i new a few 993 TT owners and they all don't drive it during winter time.
the problem is that a lot of openings are not close. so all the dirt, salt and other things will go inside and destroy a lot of things. with the 996 you don't have this problem because everything is closed. it's more an everyday car then the 993 TT is.

Thanks for the info! I didn't knew that.

[leo_26782]

Great car, congratulations.

Won't be to many problems to have only a RWD for all winter? It's not only about salt and other sh***, but also about snow? Are you skiing any time?

[pzgren]

Are you skiing any time?
yup, as lot as possible i'll go out for snowboarding. we'll see how good the car handles in the snow... :D

[leo_26782]

Keep us updated on how it handels, but where can you put a snowboard in it? :?

[TT]

Well you can put it on the roof, I saw quite a lot of 911 fully equipped in St. Moritz over the years ;)

[oscargarza88]

oh hey i just remembered to ask something ral quik...
im guessing the car has traction control right....
if it does whers the button to turn it off?!
cause i was wondering... i mean i think its almst obvious that the car has TC... but i cant find a button anywhere to turn it off... and i guessing ur car would have the same as my dads..
thanks

[pzgren]

the button is on the left hand side from the navi. should be easy to find cause it's labeled with TC. i can make you a picture and show it to you. looking for some fun? :wink:

[CSedl87]

I must say that your car looks beautiful! A nice mix of menacing, and classy. Good choice!

[oscargarza88]

the button is on the left hand side from the navi. should be easy to find cause it's labeled with TC. i can make you a picture and show it to you. looking for some fun? :wink:
well my dads car doesnt have a navigation... but i know what u mean...
and i would think it would be there, cause thats were ive seen it on some cars... but ive only seen it in the turbo models... and in my dads the button is there but its all black, and its not movable... its just there as to fill in the "button space".
ill take a icture of it if u want... here is one i took some time ago where you can barelly see the top button...
http://img370.imageshack.us/img370/7370/int20ct.th.jpg (http://img370.imageshack.us/my.php?image=int20ct.jpg)

[pzgren]

hmm, as you can see in my car the button is there where i explained

http://img501.imageshack.us/img501/3658/tcoff020tc.th.jpg (http://img501.imageshack.us/my.php?image=tcoff020tc.jpg) http://img501.imageshack.us/img501/9364/tcoff010zb.th.jpg (http://img501.imageshack.us/my.php?image=tcoff010zb.jpg)

and the control light of the tc should be left too on the panel, it's difficult to see on your pic which one it is on the left

well, that's a bit strange, i cannot imagine that your dads isn't equipped with this button.... cannot remeber, ist it 4WD or RWD?

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made quick a pic of the control panel. on the left there's the light for the tc.

http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/1129/tcoff0045xs.th.jpg (http://img233.imageshack.us/my.php?image=tcoff0045xs.jpg)

[Wutputt]

the button is on the left hand side from the navi. should be easy to find cause it's labeled with TC. i can make you a picture and show it to you. looking for some fun? :wink:
well my dads car doesnt have a navigation... but i know what u mean...
and i would think it would be there, cause thats were ive seen it on some cars... but ive only seen it in the turbo models... and in my dads the button is there but its all black, and its not movable... its just there as to fill in the "button space".

Maybe your dad's car has PSM (Porsche's ESP)? In that case the button is called 'PSM' ;)

[TransAm]

the button is on the left hand side from the navi. should be easy to find cause it's labeled with TC. i can make you a picture and show it to you. looking for some fun? :wink:
well my dads car doesnt have a navigation... but i know what u mean...
and i would think it would be there, cause thats were ive seen it on some cars... but ive only seen it in the turbo models... and in my dads the button is there but its all black, and its not movable... its just there as to fill in the "button space".

Maybe your dad's car has PSM (Porsche's ESP)? In that case the button is called 'PSM' ;)

I can confirm this - the TC button in US Porsches is labelled PSM

I know this cos my mate just bought a Boxster S and keeps switching it off to do fish impressions up the road.

[RC45]

Porsches have PMS?

I always suspected that Porsches were chick's cars... but having PMS means they are CHICK cars... ;) :P hehe

[5vz-fe]

^Its ok, it got wings ... :mrgreen:

[oscargarza88]

hmm, as you can see in my car the button is there where i explained

http://img501.imageshack.us/img501/3658/tcoff020tc.th.jpg (http://img501.imageshack.us/my.php?image=tcoff020tc.jpg) http://img501.imageshack.us/img501/9364/tcoff010zb.th.jpg (http://img501.imageshack.us/my.php?image=tcoff010zb.jpg)

and the control light of the tc should be left too on the panel, it's difficult to see on your pic which one it is on the left

well, that's a bit strange, i cannot imagine that your dads isn't equipped with this button.... cannot remeber, ist it 4WD or RWD?

----->>edit<<-------

made quick a pic of the control panel. on the left there's the light for the tc.

http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/1129/tcoff0045xs.th.jpg (http://img233.imageshack.us/my.php?image=tcoff0045xs.jpg)
thats weird... and yes, in that place is where i supposed the buttos was... but in my dads car its just a black button like the other buttons ur car has under the TC one...
and well according to me its RWD... i mean it should be... its a "simple" carrera...
i would chek the little booklet thing but it didnt come with it from where my dad bought it...
and Wutputt, i havent seen any buttons at all related to any kind of traction control... no PMS either.. i dunno ill look harder... although ive looked in the glove box and eveything...
thanks

[ae86_16v]

Don't know much about Porsches but I thought PSM was only on newer generation of cars.

[Wutputt]

Don't know much about Porsches but I thought PSM was only on newer generation of cars.

I don't know the situation in the US, but in Europe PSM was fitted as standard on the 996 C4, C4S, Turbo and Turbo S. And it was an option on the 996 C2.

[pzgren]

I came back from Zurich a few weeks ago and had a beautifull sunset in the mirror. I had to stop and take a few pics.
This will be the last pics before the modifications will take place. if everything works fine the first mods should be finished next week. i'll keep you updated.
Hope you enjoy the pics:

http://img91.imageshack.us/img91/2488/996c20042kq.th.jpg (http://img91.imageshack.us/my.php?image=996c20042kq.jpg) http://img91.imageshack.us/img91/1326/996c20762lu.th.jpg (http://img91.imageshack.us/my.php?image=996c20762lu.jpg) http://img91.imageshack.us/img91/9523/996c20750cy.th.jpg (http://img91.imageshack.us/my.php?image=996c20750cy.jpg) http://img91.imageshack.us/img91/3628/996c20731am.th.jpg (http://img91.imageshack.us/my.php?image=996c20731am.jpg) http://img91.imageshack.us/img91/390/996c20594me.th.jpg (http://img91.imageshack.us/my.php?image=996c20594me.jpg)
http://img91.imageshack.us/img91/614/996c20565hr.th.jpg (http://img91.imageshack.us/my.php?image=996c20565hr.jpg) http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/7595/996c20552ba.th.jpg (http://img59.imageshack.us/my.php?image=996c20552ba.jpg) http://img465.imageshack.us/img465/9302/996c20522go.th.jpg (http://img465.imageshack.us/my.php?image=996c20522go.jpg) http://img70.imageshack.us/img70/4411/996c20426vc.th.jpg (http://img70.imageshack.us/my.php?image=996c20426vc.jpg) http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/6774/996c20411ct.th.jpg (http://img214.imageshack.us/my.php?image=996c20411ct.jpg)

[TT]

Indeed a brillant sunset and nice pics ! it was a good idea to stop there!

[ARMAN]

wow thats deffinitly a sunset you dont see everyday :P Nice pics :good:

[sameerrao]

Nice pictures .... :)

[taygunho]

Thanks for those nice pics.

[davide]

wow!

Amazing sunset and a really nice car!
I envy you...

[pzgren]

... and - what mods are you thinking about?? :wink:
hehe, you'll see that in my next update :wink:

[hamlet]

Really nice set of pics!! I think you had a brillant idea stoping to shoot them.

By the way, next time you have the opportunity to come to Zurich just let me know. May be we could arrange a cool meeting together with StMoritzer :wink:

I am now looking forward to see your modifications :twisted:

[pzgren]

yep, i'll do that. would be nice to meet you guys!

[stmoritzer]

wow, nice sunset!

http://img465.imageshack.us/img465/9302/996c20522go.th.jpg 8)

Thanks for the pictures and hopefully we meet soon!

[Schwalbe]

What's up PzGren. http://www.rs6.com/smilies/wave.gif

Sorry mate for my extremely late reply, I just realized two weeks ago you switch your lovely Imola B5 S4 Avant for a Porsche 996 C2. http://www.rs6.com/smilies/doh.gif

That proves that I don't visit very often this section of JW forum. http://www.cirena.com/rs6/smilies/hihi.gif

I always knew that you liked Porsche cars and it's a classic move to switch from Audi to Porsche, but which remains in the same car family IMO. I have many friends who did the same way. Thus I benefit from the occasion to say to you congrats for your purchase, you are very lucky my friend. Your car looks superb and special thanks for your awesome sunset pictures. http://www.rs6.com/smilies/thumbsup.gif

Viele Grüße aus Kanada !

Julz

[JoeHahn]

Sorry to bring up the whole PSM thing again. PSM isnt exactly traction control. PSM is Porsche Stability Management and its basically traction control and a couple of other things - helps control a spin, counter brakes etc.

Porsche tend not to put PSM on their sportier cars (GT3, Carrera GT) because they say its too intrusive and they dont make these cars for bad drivers. The new GT3 has TC but not PSM :)

Hope I cleared something up

[ae86_16v]

... and - what mods are you thinking about?? :wink:
hehe, you'll see that in my next update :wink:

This should be interesting. . . :) .

Nice pictures by the way. . .