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ldin
11-02-2005, 11:12 AM
http://www.cannabisculture.com/articles/4570.html

pretty speechless...but i think that in a way it is a good thing(but then again the last thing we need is more potheads lol)...i have smoked pot for some time..but stopped about 3years ago and i believe this is a good thing so small time potheads are not in jail longer then some guy who raped a kid...pretty sad how small time drug dealers get busted and get more time then some pedo. but thats america...i think more and more places are gonna make pot legal..i remember reading way back not sure where..but they said how a ivyleague school has more drugs then any drug infested place...so when your getting that triple bypass surgery done and the doc's late..you KNOW he was out back smoking a joint! anyway please discuss..i would really like to hear what people have to say.

blinkmeat
11-02-2005, 11:18 AM
I think you're whole country might collapse :wink:

What's Anne Coulter think?

gucom
11-02-2005, 11:24 AM
haha pot is legal here, the country hasn't collapsed yet :) i'd like to see somewhere what all the effects of legalising pot are (# of users, # of new users, # of hard-drug addicts, # of drug-related crimes etc etc etc)

ldin
11-02-2005, 11:24 AM
i think so also...just as long as 93 gas goes down to 1.00 a gallon..i got no problems ;)

Johns
11-02-2005, 11:38 AM
Weed will never be legal in the rest of USA cus it will cause the tobacco business bank ruptcy. Also the government like DEA.. will loose millions of $$$

graywolf624
11-02-2005, 11:42 AM
Also the government like DEA.. will lose millions
Uh? how?

blinkmeat
11-02-2005, 12:02 PM
They wont be getting any more kickbacks from large drug cartels 8)

I'll bet $100 - that if this takes off - there will be a pill

nthfinity
11-02-2005, 12:04 PM
if its legalized, then will possession of unsanctioned pot still be illegal?

if it cant be taxed, its not 'legal'.... taxed by the consumer, grower, seller... did they add their beans when passing this?

racer_f50
11-02-2005, 01:33 PM
Well, i guess if any city in the US would do this, Denver would be it.... I have a friend who's into illicit substances, and he went to an art school in Denver for video editing. He came back a month later convinced that Denver is the drug capital of the US, as drugs were everywhere in the area his school was in.

I sure hope the rest of the country doesn't follow suit, though. Drugs (including alcohol and tobacco) would all be banned if it were up to me. Sure pot doesn't cause violence and such, but it does cause people to have very slow reaction times if they decided to drive to Taco Bell for food, which can cause just as many accidents are drunk drivers.

blinkmeat
11-02-2005, 02:29 PM
in my book we should have a law like China, deal in drugs and you get a bullet to the head. enough said!!

LOonie loONie LoOnIe

Anonymous
11-02-2005, 03:55 PM
good. it's about time.

Marijuana is MUCH LESS harmful than Alcohol. In all the hospitals i've worked at...all the patients i've seen, i've seen so many deaths, problems, complications, disease due to Alcohol.

i have yet to see any due to marijuana.

Still can fuck with ya head and makes you lethargic/ unmotivated if you are a heavy user though. Sure we've all seen people wasting their life through both alcohol and weed just well shouldn't be pushed as being a drug thats harmless the same with alcohol, some people can't just have the odd joint and many in my experience don't stop with weed. Now its a class c drug here people have begun to think its a totally harmless drug :bah: On the whole i agree with, but i still wouldn't say you should use either regularly and anyone who drives while stoned deserves to be shot.

in my book we should have a law like China, deal in drugs and you get a bullet to the head. enough said!!

LOonie loONie LoOnIe

Yeh we all worked that out about him ages ago, but we'll let him off, he was abused with halloween hats as a child :P

blinkmeat
11-02-2005, 04:06 PM
in my book we should have a law like China, deal in drugs and you get a bullet to the head. enough said!!

LOonie loONie LoOnIe

its really the only logical solution to be honest, nothing to date has detered people from selling/doing drugs.
wtf - so what - who the hell are you, JESUS?

blinkmeat
11-02-2005, 04:18 PM
Are you on crack?

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Normally Religion doesn't have a place in in this issue - but you're the one playing God and killing all the people who smoke weed because you don't agree with it.

That's why I said "who the fuck are you JESUS?"

Seriously man - it's a bit extreme don't you think?

graywolf624
11-02-2005, 04:21 PM
What no nude pics? I demand my pussy levity as Im now use too.

blinkmeat
11-02-2005, 04:27 PM
What no nude pics? I demand my pussy levity as Im now use too.

Fetch :D

blinkmeat
11-02-2005, 04:30 PM
Are you on crack?

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Normally Religion doesn't have a place in in this issue - but you're the one playing God and killing all the people who smoke weed because you don't agree with it.

That's why I said "who the fuck are you JESUS?"

Seriously man - it's a bit extreme don't you think?

if anyone is on crack it would seem to be you, in getting so offended by my remark. only a stoner would be so offended!!

and no i do not think its extreme, well maybe for the user it might be extreme.

so ill retract the bullet in the head statement towards the users but when it comes to the makers and sellers of drugs then they should be shot and killed no questions asked.

got to attack where it all starts and thats the producers, take them out and well the users will get cleaned up and drubs will become a underground thing and wont effect the world as it does now. yes i know its easier said then done, but all it takes is someone to have some balls and actually carry out such a mission.

It's so clear now - :roll:









you are on crack

nthfinity
11-02-2005, 04:40 PM
only a stoner would be so offended!!

i cirtainly wasnt offended by it :lol:

what i can guarentee everybody here in this discussion is this:
every one of my friends who are pot-smokers, ciggerette smokers... every one would be a better person w/out the drugs..... and not by just a little either

SFDMALEX
11-02-2005, 05:36 PM
What no nude pics? I demand my pussy levity as Im now use too.

Your wish shall be granted :D
http://rollertrain.blogspot.com/Jenna_Jameson.jpg

dutchmasterflex
11-02-2005, 06:35 PM
one ounce or less.. man thats crazy! gonna be a field day for teenagers and college kids in denver..

ldin
11-02-2005, 08:28 PM
ronin, out of courisity...have you tried any drugs?

callen
11-02-2005, 08:31 PM
in my book we should have a law like China, deal in drugs and you get a bullet to the head. enough said!!

LOonie loONie LoOnIe

yah no shit eh? ronin where the hell did that kooky comment come from? :shock:

nthfinity
11-02-2005, 08:41 PM
ronin, out of courisity...have you tried any drugs?
im sure he'll answer before too long... but to somebody who has no want to try drugs; the abuser always uses that as an argument for STFU...

its completely a retarded argument; and would be not so different to somebody saying "if you havent had a homosexual experience, then dont say its wrong" [another topic] i dont have to try it to to know it isnt for me.

also, isnt it the sober person the better for liking who they are; and enjoying themselves without such 'luxuries'

i dont care wether the drugs are illegal, or legal personally.... but to say that it doesnt affect people when they arent high isn't true in any of the users i have ever known. i would much rather have all my friends clean... but its not my buisness to even ask them that most of the time; i have, however been forced my hand a few times.

i do agree with ronin in that i think dealers ought to be executed in public for the friends ive lost over the years.

ldin
11-02-2005, 08:51 PM
fyi: i wanted to know for my personal information...not for arguments sake..yes i have had my share of friends who have overdosed and passed away....but when people get furious over it...your not making any progress...your showing your weakness..just let them be..they will end up dead on there own anyway...

blinkmeat
11-02-2005, 10:00 PM
^^
Agreed

nthfinity
11-02-2005, 10:05 PM
but when people get furious over it...your not making any progress...your showing your weakness..just let them be..they will end up dead on there own anyway...
showing weekness? who, the sober guy, or the addict? if the sober guy; hardly; how can one watch thier friends just whither away?

dannyroz
11-02-2005, 10:23 PM
My question is this: How are they going to know you are driving under the influence of pot? It stays for your system for over a month...unless they made a new strain in Denver

P.S- Any race tracks in Denver? lol

graywolf624
11-02-2005, 10:28 PM
By the way..
This doesn't make pot legal, cause the state laws still apply:

Residents of the Mile High City have voted to legalize the possession of small amounts of marijuana for adults. Authorities, though, said state possession laws will be applied instead.

With 100 percent of precincts reporting early Wednesday, 54 percent, or 56,001 voters, cast ballots for the ordinance, while 46 percent, or 48,632 voters, voted against it.

Under the measure, residents over 21 years old could possess up to an ounce of marijuana.

"We educated voters about the facts that marijuana is less harmful to the user and society than alcohol," said Mason Tvert, campaign organizer for SAFER, or Safer Alternatives For Enjoyable Recreation. "To prohibit adults from making the rational, safer choice to use marijuana is bad public policy."

Bruce Mirken of the Washington-based Marijuana Policy Project said he hoped the approval will launch a national trend toward legalizing a drug whose enforcement he said causes more problems than it cures.

Seattle, Oakland, California, and a few college towns already have laws making possession the lowest law enforcement priority.

The Denver proposal seemed to draw at least as much attention for supporters' campaign tactics as it did for the question of legalizing the drug.

Tvert argued that legalizing marijuana would reduce consumption of alcohol, which he said leads to higher rates of car accidents, domestic and street violence and crime.

The group criticized Mayor John Hickenlooper for opposing the proposal, noting his ownership of a popular brewpub. It also said recent violent crimes -- including the shootings of four people last weekend -- as a reason to legalize marijuana to steer people away from alcohol use.

Those tactics angered local officials and some voters. Opponents also said it made no sense to prevent prosecution by Denver authorities while marijuana charges are most often filed under state and federal law.

The measure would not affect the medical marijuana law voters approved in 2000. In June, the U.S. Supreme Court ruled that medical marijuana laws in Colorado and nine other states would not protect licensed users from federal prosecution.

Also Tuesday, voters in the ski resort town of Telluride rejected a proposal to make possession of an ounce or less of marijuana by people 18 or older the town's lowest law enforcement priority. The measure was rejected on a vote of 308-332
http://www.cnn.com/2005/POLITICS/11/02/denvermarijuana.ap/index.html?section=cnn_latest

ldin
11-02-2005, 10:32 PM
revenge gets you nowhere...maybe it helps you sleep? the dealers and drug addicts are already suffering...by you killing them will only be putting them out of their misery.

blinkmeat
11-02-2005, 10:44 PM
My question is this: How are they going to know you are driving under the influence of pot? It stays for your system for over a month...unless they made a new strain in Denver

P.S- Any race tracks in Denver? lol

If you're driving 6 mph - its a clue

They ask you a series of funny questions to see how much you laugh - then ask you to run around the vehicle 5 times. if you say no way! then you're clearly inxicated :P

blinkmeat
11-02-2005, 10:53 PM
^^
Here's the problem ronin - it isn't a problem - ppl like you just make it into one. Thats the real problem - just leave ppl be and stfu

exhausted mules
11-02-2005, 11:05 PM
you bitches done allready?


if the government thought the issue to be that bad... they would have found a more... forcefull, way, of dealing with the issue.

blinkmeat
11-02-2005, 11:17 PM
You really must be 75 because your view is just defunct and problematic. Maybe you aughta do a whole bunch on acid and get a new perspective on shit - lol Hansel

Are you a Beatles fan? Do you like Van Gogh? How about da Vinci? Think your president is great?

Drug use is subjective and objective

Either way - we don't live in a dictatorship

ldin
11-02-2005, 11:32 PM
i say we all eat some veal marsala with *special* mushrooms and we can enjoy nature and the world and we would not have any problems...for the time being....


:P :P :P :shock: :shock: :!: :idea: :?: :idea: :arrow: :!:

edit: i had a spastic attack with the emoticons....

coloradosilver
11-03-2005, 12:14 AM
Um no...pot is not legal in Denver. I know that the issue passed, but it's only a city initiative. The state and federal laws still overrule the city ordinances. Thus, if you get caught with pot in Denver, no matter how much, you can still be given a ticket or taken to jail depending on the circumstances.

What pissses me off even more about this is that the person behind the whole campaign here is a 23 year old pothead who just wants it to be legalized for recreational use. Yet he's using the whole medicinal purpose argument. I hate hippies!

RC45
11-03-2005, 01:26 AM
^^
Here's the problem ronin - it isn't a problem - ppl like you just make it into one. Thats the real problem - just leave ppl be and stfu

sure its is, its just not as bad as it use to be but it still is a problem. do your self a favor and go get high and kill a few more braincells, seems like you dont need them anyways!!


you really seem to be getting offended man. so what is it, you either are a stoner or you sell drugs??

Hey - stop making so much sense there... I don't want to have to agree with you... ;)

SFDMALEX
11-03-2005, 02:11 PM
I think they should legalize oral sex first....or is that legal in Denver lol?

SFDMALEX
11-03-2005, 11:16 PM
http://is-mad.com/upload/userfiles/SFDMALEX/antidrug2is.jpg

Eddie
11-04-2005, 09:43 AM
Next up - time to legalize prostitution.

Anonymous
11-04-2005, 11:21 AM
Next up - time to legalize prostitution.

guess you havent heard of NEVEDA??

where's that then? :P

nchs09
11-04-2005, 12:38 PM
fyi: i wanted to know for my personal information...not for arguments sake..yes i have had my share of friends who have overdosed and passed away....but when people get furious over it...your not making any progress...your showing your weakness..just let them be..they will end up dead on there own anyway...omg not a single coherent post in here... sorry
u can NOT overdose on pot. 1 case has been proven where an overdose occured, it was a man who smoked i think 50 joints a day. not your avarage joe has tht money. second of all, yes its state legal, yet state cops are stil reinforcing the federal goverment mandate so technically if u get cought with less than a gram, u are going to jail as a misdeminor. so technically is not legal and will never be in america..


yet seriously think about it. whats more dangerous? smoking pot @ home or racing down the highway ... u tell me. and if u seriously think its pot. plz dont bother responding u spaz.

get over it. its legal technically but its not so nothing has changed and it wont. @ least not for a while if this country realizes just in like the netherland and belgium pot is concidered a health risk and not somethign bad for the community hance the legality in those countrys.

and pplease dont come with me with taht it will increase crime or deaths. user per capita is more in teh US where its illegal than in coutries where it is and so it crime rate. fatality a year etc.

/rant

ldin
11-04-2005, 01:16 PM
i was referring to people who use heavy drugs...the kind that you can overdose on and die...lets see, for example: heroin....and for one second if you take your southern dumbass outside the box you would know what i was talking about...WE KNOW YOU CANT OVERDOSE ON POT..thankyou capt. obvious... as for coherent? wtf are you talking about...attempt to read all the post's then respond with something somewhat valid...


lalalala aint no love in the heart of the city aint no lovee in the heart of timeee..

nchs09
11-04-2005, 02:42 PM
When I read that, the first thing that occured to me is that you must be drunk. i apologize if its just stupidity
you are such a fucking spaz i dont even know where to beggin.
so you are telling me if something doesnt have structure u are unable to read it or simply comprenhed it? i dont know whats worst. Your last post or the lack of brain power to read unstructure paragraphs. sorry last time i checked this wasnt english class and im not writting an essey so ALLOW me to apologize for the mistakes but as u can see clearly im not attempting a thesis here, just correcting the incoherent iv stumbled upon which clearly u though i was only refering to you, which to be honst i doubt i even read your post to begin with.

but i guess im being capt. obvious again here as clearly everyone can see that. sorry again

where to continue with such a spaz?
how about your lack of understanding what location is? since when does someone that move to atlanta become a southern "dumbass" as u call it? is it possible for someone to move or what? state lines are closed and borders too? ffs mate get a clue seriously.

and please dont waste your precious time writting a reply because as iv said befroe, doubtful i will read it.

Anonymous
11-04-2005, 02:51 PM
It's not an english class but some english is preferable :wink:

nchs09
11-04-2005, 02:55 PM
meh not to worried about it, i was reading and posting as i went not paying attention.. if u seriously cant get anyhting out of that its sad.

ldin
11-04-2005, 03:02 PM
yes i am hungover wooohooo...it sounded good in my head...but maybe not yours......your not gonna read it, so no need for me to write a 10page paper double spaced with 12font...and shit..i updated my m$word and they have spellcheck!!

aint no loveeeee in the heart of atlantaaaa aint no loveeeee

p.s: avoid jose cuervo....

Anonymous
11-04-2005, 03:45 PM
meh not to worried about it, i was reading and posting as i went not paying attention.. if u seriously cant get anyhting out of that its sad.

didn't say i could understand it, just implied that it was more difficult than english in the accepted sense of the word :P :wink: