I need help.

[komotar]

Ok, here's the deal.

1st. I was under the impression that it is not legal to drive the Porsche 959 on US roads. The car is not homologated. Can anyone tell me why.
I think I heard something about Porsche not wanting to give a big number of cars to be tested in the US for safety and stuff. If that is right, does anybody know how many cars would Porsche have to give to the Americans.

Someone tried to proove me wrong.

Can anybody get me some proof or written data, that says that that is the case.


2.nd

I know for sure that if you crash on the Ring, that the ensurance company covers the damage because , how do you call it.....it's like crashing on a normal road..... I'm right, right?

Where did I hear this. On top gear maybe. I can't remember.

Again, if it would be possible to get some verification on this subject.

Maybe a link to a site that explains the whole thing.

Ok, that would be all.


thx 8)

[topgeartom]

Has someone been getting in to pub arguments?? :P

Maybe this sort of prooves your first argument

http://www.dummies.com/WileyCDA/DummiesArticle/id-2668.html

**EDIT** much more info and a pretty clear explantion as to why, here:

http://www.canepa.com/SportsLuxury/Showroom/959ArticleAutoweek.asp

[weichenoo]

didn't bill gates buy several 959's so he could get just one on the road ?

[ZfrkS62]

There was a site i posted a little while back that explained that the Ring is considered a public road when it is open for track days and not rented out. Therefore, insurance will cover damages sustained during a wreck on the Ring. HOWEVER there are a few companies that specifically exclude the Nurburgring from their policy. This is one of the reasons video cameras are no longer allowed on the Ring because they make their way to the internet and catch license plates.

There have been a few cases where the description of the road where the wreck occured was simply "a one way road between town X and town Y" depending on which section of the track it occured.


as for the 959, i think Gates was only allowed to bring it over if he promised it was for show only and didn't drive it on public roads. i don't know if he had to buy more than one though. St.-Anger might know.

[Toronto]

http://erntheburn.tripod.com/autos/959/
http://erntheburn.tripod.com/autos/959/95911.htm - 959 info about the US

as for the ring, ask people who live close to it? :D

[No.1]

I don't think the insurance covers the driving on the Ring... it's a race track!



That's the point of komo's question.... is it not a Toll Road?

I'm confused, but i know a lot more comanies are excluding trackdays from regular cover, and that the owner needs to request, or declare that they will be taking their car on a track. I think the insurance cost increases, and that there is a larger premium too, but obviously this depends on the company

[pharzo]

Here's (http://www.nurburgring.org.uk/insurance.html) a page that explains the insurance thing

Here's a blurb about the 959

The 959 was not street legal in the United States prior to 1999 when the "Show and Display" law was finally passed, although an unknown number were imported by the super-wealthy via the "grey market" during the late 1980s as show pieces. During the model's development, Porsche refused to provide the United States Department of Transportation with the four 959s they required for crash testing, and the car was never certified by the NHTSA for street use in the U.S. With the passage of "Show and Display" the crash test requirements were removed and importation of the 959 was allowed, assuming the car could meet with the local emissions standards that would have existed as of 1987. The 959 can be fitted with a catalytic converter and a rechipped computer which will allow it to meet those emissions requirements.