Jeremy Returns his GT

[Anonymous]

OK so i put it in here cos it'll get more views probably, if its wrong somebody slap me and move it :P

Just got the sunday times to read jezza has returned his gt, i'd scan it but its too big to do easily so heres the next best thing

http://driving.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,12529-1677058,00.html

[ARMAN]

Dumb Ford :roll: Thats the worst piece of publicity he will get in years imo 8) Jereme will sure remind everyone this everytime he will speack of fast fords :mrgreen:

Thanx for link AL :wink:

[Anonymous]

You never know Ford may pull thier finger out and fix it properly, and jeremy may get it back.... with compensation i would hope. Honestly If they can't even fit an alarm properly that doesn't say much for the company involved (not Ford directly) Maybe Jeremy is just too tempted by the 430 I would be, much better looking than the 360, and supposed to be a great drive. Notice they gave him a DB9 like he suggested on Top Gear on sunday too :lol:

[Fleischmann]

DAmn...that's sad to here...such an icon has to loose it's glamour because of a few incompentent people. LOL...poor fella...he's sure going to get ripped on by hammond and May.

[topgeartom]

I reckon he'll buy it back, he still seems to be attached to it.

One thing is for sure, if he doesnt buy it back, he'll be taking his £135,000 to the local ferrari dealership and buying an F430. A car that i imagine, wonjt go wrong quite so often!

[dangerously_cool]

This is why I don't like Benzes, Bimmers, Audis, and the like. Too many possible electronic gremlins.

My SRT has nada. Just a car alarm, front power windows, and a radio. Nothing to get in the way of the drive. Ford, take note. Oh, it has that nice whistlemaker in my avatar.

[No.1]

This is why I don't like Benzes, Bimmers, Audis, and the like. Too many possible electronic gremlins.


How can you compare these manufacturers to Ford :roll:

The problems with the car are with the alarm and immobiliser.... hardly cutting edge tech... virtually every new car has an immobiliser and alarm as standard. They don't go wrong, why should it be any different in the GT.

I'm glad Jeremy has got rid.... it's like James May said of the countach.... childhood dreams are best kept that way, because the reality is nowhere near your expectations.

I'm sure we will see Jeremy in a 430 very soon now 8)

[dangerously_cool]

Fuel injection is well tested, it's been around far longer than iDrive.

When absolutely everything inside the car is computer controlled, it's going to be a lot harder to repair than it would be a mechanical counterpart. The Prius is also going to have its share of problems down the road--in addition to those it already has. Think of the interdependence these electronics have. When your radio is controlled by a knob that is run electronically, you have a much greater problem when the electronics malfunction than if your radio or navigation were to malfunction.

[Anonymous]

Thamar, you're a Belgian. Shut the fuck up you savage fucking twat. Fuel injection is well tested, it's been around far longer than iDrive.

When absolutely everything inside the car is computer controlled, it's going to be a lot harder to repair than it would be a mechanical counterpart. The Prius is also going to have its share of problems down the road--in addition to those it already has.

You're also calling me an idiot when your command of the English language is startlingly weak. You have no idea how much effort it is taking me to restrain my temper. I'd rather not get banned though.

yeh and ECU's never have problems :roll: funny i know plenty of people who have problems with them. No new or newish car will be without its problems. I also disagree with you saying his english is shit, you rude little asshole, just remember you speak american from what i've seen :P How is the fact he's belgium relevent, you sir are top class buffoon.


Thamar, you've not the right to be so uppity, your command of the language we're using is very weak. Fuel injection is well tested, it's been around far longer than iDrive.

When absolutely everything inside the car is computer controlled, it's going to be a lot harder to repair than it would be a mechanical counterpart. The Prius is also going to have its share of problems down the road--in addition to those it already has. Think of the interdependence these electronics have. When your radio is controlled by a knob that is run electronically, you have a much greater problem when the electronics malfunction than if your radio or navigation were to malfunction.

You have no idea how much effort it is taking me to restrain my temper. I'd rather not get banned though. Suffice it say, however that child molesters like you should be purged. Look at your avatar. Now tell me you don't have thoughs of touching little children.

Editing your rudeness will not save you when i'm too quick :wink: Also calling thamar a child molester, you sick little fuck, if it was me in charge i'd ban you immediately. And if i was thamar seek legal redress for your unfounded accusations

[dangerously_cool]

I try not to subscribe to that speak "American" bullshit. I've enough people saying that to me in my own country. American is more a dialect than a language anyway, and even that is giving too much credence to it.

I was in the process of editing that when you replied. You beat me to the punch by mere seconds.

[Anonymous]

You bastard, I try not to subscribe to that speak "American" bullshit. It surprises me that someone outside of this damned country would say something like that.

ooooooh but you're dangerously cool you are, i'd better shut up then........ i was joking :wink: , everyone speaks a different dialect across the country let alone in others :wink: BTW i just spoke to my mum, she said technically you're wrong :P


I was in the process of editing that when you replied. You beat me to the punch by mere seconds.

should think before you post then :wink:

[dangerously_cool]

Technically wrong insomuch as what? I realize my actions betray my screen name, but dangerously_angry didn't occur to me at the time. :D

[Anonymous]

Technically wrong insomuch as what?

as in bastard :roll:

[Roadster44]

dangerously_cool, unprovoked personal attacks of that kind WILL NOT be tolerated.... first warning to you

[dangerously_cool]

should think before you post then :wink:

My anger wells up too fast. Imagine what happens when I've even less time to respond?

I was reading up on the forum to take my mind off other things. The idiot comment annoyed me. I snapped. I apoligize.

[Anonymous]

Well back slightly ontopic, as i said somewhere else on JW Jeremy has also slipped a disc. My bro saw him on Live 8 being interviewed, bet with that and his hip TG style driving isn't comfortable!!

[Jabba]

dangerously_cool, unprovoked personal attacks of that kind WILL NOT be tolerated.... first warning to you

Except when directed at Thamar of course LOL...

One more outburst like that and that guy is toast :P

[Jabba]

Suddenly I feel quite ill.

[Anonymous]

Suddenly I feel quite ill.

LOL well you shouldn't post such a sexy picture of yourself in your avatar then :P

[Wutputt]

On topic again. It's really a shame Jezza's dream car was a pain in the arse. I think if its repaired properly we will buy it back. But this is really bad publicity for Ford, and I think most of the airing time of the news in this evenings Top Gear episode will be going again about his troubles with the GT.

[blah]

dangerously_cool, unprovoked personal attacks of that kind WILL NOT be tolerated.... first warning to you

Slut ass whore!! :lol:

What was this topic about again????

Also dangerously cool, BMW, and AUDI both have lower amounts of problems on their cars than american cars with no tech. Merc is getting there too but the build quality just isnt there yet.

[komotar]

now that's what I call bad publicity :lol:

[GT-R_R34]

i wonder what the hamster going to say on top gear today. where is you GT? :mrgreen:

[nthfinity]

well, the problem witht he GT seems related to a faulty grounding, if you ask me... i guess i dont particularly care if the car isnt bought back, some other person will be able to enjoy it :roll:

mabey Jezza will buy a C6 Z :P

[Sick Boy]

But it was only the alarm.

[T-Bird]

This is truely sad news but what I don't get is I haven't heard of this problem with any of the US GT's I guess Saleen did a better job servicing them than Roush does. I would be very dissapointed if he bought an F430 I really doubt he would if anything I bet he would just keep the DB9 eventhough t sounds like he wants to keep the GT really. and for all you Ford hatters just realize all the GT problems are with non Ford parts.

[5vz-fe]

I have a feeling he'll never trust an american car ever again. It's a mistake for them to give Jeremy a diesel. It's certainly a big mistake they didn't try harder, if Jeremy say the alarm almost ran off daily, they should just keep the car for a longer time and see if their fix is working or not.

[antonioledesma]

well, the problem witht he GT seems related to a faulty grounding, if you ask me...

it's an electrical gremlin... and I go with your call, could be faulty grounding or and electronic gizmo is simply broken...
what a shame. Maybe someone else could've waited until the car was ready, but it seems that JC will go for the ferrari 430 that he liked so much

[Minacious]

Besides, I only have thoughts about touching Jabba :lol:

Haven't we all?


As far as the GT situation, even though the problems have nothing to do with the car directly, it will me made to look like the car is the problem. Too bad.

[T-Bird]

see atleast jeremy said that it wasn't directly Ford's fault.

[chest3r]

That's a really sad situation. Dreaming with a car all his life and now that the dream comes true, it only gets problems :x :x

But I'm sure he will buy the GT again...... I don't think he will buy a Ferrari. But in the same situatuin I would do it :mrgreen: ...... a F430 Challenge Stradale :P

[topgeartom]

That's a really sad situation. Dreaming with a car all his life and now that the dream comes true, it only gets problems :x :x

But I'm sure he will buy the GT again...... I don't think he will buy a Ferrari. But in the same situatuin I would do it :mrgreen: ...... a F430 Challenge Stradale :P

I wouldnt be so sure. from what ive read in the latest TG mag, he seems to be quite set on the F430. I'll quote:

This month my long-awaited and much-delayed Ford GT arrived in Britain, which would certainly be a cause for much whooping and celebration. But unfortuenately, I went to see it just 24 hours after i drove Ferrari's new F430, which is undoubtedly the best car ever made.

You may find it terribly funny that ive publicly bought the wrong car.

Better than a Ford GT? Of course it is. It's better than everything.

[SilviaEvo]

yeah he seems set on buying that F430 i dont blame him though its a beast of a car! wonder what his kids will do to it

[SFDMALEX]

mabey Jezza will buy a C6 Z :P

Why not buy a bathtub on wheels, or make that a jacuzzi :lol: :wink:

[DeMoN]

I too get attached to cars, however, it takes more than a couple of months. I think Jeremy wants to have a Ford GT, just not that one. If I were him, I'd ask for anotherone and deal with the alarm later. Actually, he has a DB9, hell, I'd keep that!

DB9 surely isnt helping him think about the ford.

[gtx28]

Why not buy a bathtub on wheels, or make that a jacuzzi

very funny isnt it time for you to go play some hockey or have a molsen aye?? lol :mrgreen:

[pharzo]

My SRT has nada.


Truer words were never spoken :D

I think Jeremy should ask for it back, then go fit another alarm. Roush fucked up. Ford made a great car. However, taking into consideration the TG article, you never know...

Jeremy does have a fondness for the prancing horse :)

[Anonymous]

But it was only the alarm.

yes but have a car with a bad one and it pisses you off unbelievably, interupting your sleep etc. Also if you are constantly lied to by incompetent people who can't trace and fix a relatively simple sounding fault that is bound to put you off a car. I think that is the main crux of the issue. It may seem petty but spend that much money and you expect to be treated better than that.

[coloradosilver]

What a shame for Clarkson..In this case I would say that the car itself isn't the point. It would be the same for any of us who finialy get the car that you've always wanted and dreamed of and then had horrible problems with it. He said that he actually cried when it left his house for the final time. I sincerely feel sorry for that man. It's the kind of loss that only a true auto entheusiast could ever understand.

Ford should be ashamed for allowing substandard parts to be used on their uber-spare-no-expense super car.

Poor Clarkson! :cry:

[5vz-fe]

Ford should give second thought in extending the service of Roush. I didn't see Leno bitch about the car, so I assume his mechanic or Ford NA fixed his car alright. Is long distance call / emailing really that hard :roll:

[pharzo]

Well my understanding is that Roush only services the british GT's, and Leno has a private mechanic as you said :)

[gtx28]

Well that and there is no way Leno would end up in a rental when hes got 80 some odd other toys to play with.

[chest3r]

This month my long-awaited and much-delayed Ford GT arrived in Britain, which would certainly be a cause for much whooping and celebration. But unfortuenately, I went to see it just 24 hours after i drove Ferrari's new F430, which is undoubtedly the best car ever made.

You may find it terribly funny that ive publicly bought the wrong car.

Better than a Ford GT? Of course it is. It's better than everything.

I didn't knew about that article.

The best car ever made !?!?! :shock: Better than everything ?!?!? :shock:

I knew the F430 was a great car but I never thought seeing a journalist saying this. Now I'm really anxious to see the TG test.

Now I believe he probably would buy the F430, but there's always a chance of seeing him in the GT again :P

[dangerously_cool]

You know, his fame, beside being a double-edged sword for Ford Europe with the return, helped him quite a bit. Getting a GT for MSRP is an amazing deal, especially with my dealership--stealership applies best here--trying to get $300K for it.

With how much he loves Ferrari, he should switch to it anyway, especially with the service base it has in Europe.

The GT is also, like he said, not designed for the tight confines of Europe's city roads. It's width, and gas guzzling tendencies cripple it. The Ferrari--though a gas pig as well--is designed for Europe, and suffers from fewer ailments. Ford rushed the GT, and it shows. I spoke with a dissatisfied GT owner who switched to a Chrysler SRT8 because his coolant line repeatedly came off.

[pharzo]

I spoke with a dissatisfied GT owner who switched to a Chrysler SRT8 because his coolant line repeatedly came off.

From $250,000+ to $43,000? This seem strange to anyone else? :roll:

[dangerously_cool]

This isn't the "post your ride" section, and I don't have pictures of his car, I haven't seen it. I trust someone that age wouldn't lie, especially seeing as the man still has a $50K car.

I can't prove that he had one, but I'm not laying claim to the car myself...

[pharzo]

I'm not "disbelieving," I'm just saying it's a bit of an odd choice. Don't you think so?

[cooperluke]

I think Ford messed with the wrong guy.

If I knew that JC was having problems... I would never give him a Diesel Focus as a replacement car for a GT!! And I would not want that kind of negative publicity!!

[dangerously_cool]

I do. In fact I don't think I would have sold it. He claimed to have put the coolant line back himself, rather than taking it to the dealer for service. He may well have been one of those two room apartment, 140K car guys, the type who live in LA.

It also seems odd that someone who would be able to accumulate such a wealth as that would be so rash as to sell it after only tinkering with it himself.

[ARMAN]

I spoke with a dissatisfied GT owner who switched to a Chrysler SRT8 because his coolant line repeatedly came off.

From $250,000+ to $43,000? This seem strange to anyone else? :roll:

Sound queer to me :shock: From a sports car to......... fat limo? Why would he do that?

[dangerously_cool]

Rationality comes sparingly I guess?

[5vz-fe]

I think Ford messed with the wrong guy.

If I knew that JC was having problems... I would never give him a Diesel Focus as a replacement car for a GT!! And I would not want that kind of negative publicity!!

I guess it's becoz it's Roush and not Ford. If it's Ford, I am sure they would give him something awesome, hey, it's almost like free advertising. But since it's Roush, it really do nothing for them.

[bmagni]

well he has his money back, so off to 430 he should go. first off i would of never bought the gt, so i would of never been in that boat.
i totally agree with you, ive never had bought the gt, maybe if i was a huge fan as JC i would have, but being a ford...
then going for the f430, i think its the wisest decision he can make

[RC45]

Why did he have a stupid alarm anyway?

There are 28 GT's in the UK - is someone going to steal it and then use it?

The first thing to be removed should have been the alarm/immobilizer, it serves no purpose.

Besides that, he was just looking for a reason to ditch the car.

[BADMIHAI]

Why did he have a stupid alarm anyway?

There are 28 GT's in the UK - is someone going to steal it and then use it?

The first thing to be removed should have been the alarm/immobilizer, it serves no purpose.

Besides that, he was just looking for a reason to ditch the car.


If someone steals it, he's going to ship and sell it to the Middle East, not London. :roll: That's what the alarm/immobilizer are doing on the GT.

[RC45]

Why did he have a stupid alarm anyway?

There are 28 GT's in the UK - is someone going to steal it and then use it?

The first thing to be removed should have been the alarm/immobilizer, it serves no purpose.

Besides that, he was just looking for a reason to ditch the car.


If someone steals it, he's going to ship and sell it to the Middle East, not London. :roll: That's what the alarm/immobilizer are doing on the GT.

That's what insurance is for.

The professional car-jacker looking for a GT will have the alarm disabled in a flash so it's a moot point - the targetted car is gone no matter what.

All you need is the factory key/ignition system... screw the after market crap.

[BADMIHAI]

Why did he have a stupid alarm anyway?

There are 28 GT's in the UK - is someone going to steal it and then use it?

The first thing to be removed should have been the alarm/immobilizer, it serves no purpose.

Besides that, he was just looking for a reason to ditch the car.


If someone steals it, he's going to ship and sell it to the Middle East, not London. :roll: That's what the alarm/immobilizer are doing on the GT.

That's what insurance is for.

The professional car-jacker looking for a GT will have the alarm disabled in a flash so it's a moot point - the targetted car is gone no matter what.

All you need is the factory key/ignition system... screw the after market crap.

But having an after-market hyper-tracking system will also lower insurance premiums.

[RC45]

Why did he have a stupid alarm anyway?

There are 28 GT's in the UK - is someone going to steal it and then use it?

The first thing to be removed should have been the alarm/immobilizer, it serves no purpose.

Besides that, he was just looking for a reason to ditch the car.


If someone steals it, he's going to ship and sell it to the Middle East, not London. :roll: That's what the alarm/immobilizer are doing on the GT.

That's what insurance is for.

The professional car-jacker looking for a GT will have the alarm disabled in a flash so it's a moot point - the targetted car is gone no matter what.

All you need is the factory key/ignition system... screw the after market crap.

But having an after-market hyper-tracking system will also lower insurance premiums.

But when you are a wealthy hooligan with a Kevin Keegan mop of hair - you shouldn't care.

The hyper tracking system is pretty pointless anyway. It proved to be all false alrms.. ;)

[BADMIHAI]

But when you are a wealthy hooligan with a Kevin Keegan mop of hair - you shouldn't care.



But, apparently, the U.K. cars all came with that alarm/immobilizer.

[RC45]

But when you are a wealthy hooligan with a Kevin Keegan mop of hair - you shouldn't care.



But, apparently, the U.K. cars all came with that alarm/immobilizer.

And apparently they aren't very well executed ;) But then again it was a Ford - and to make matters worse, a Roush serviced Ford... :P

[graywolf624]

What a shame.. I agree with everyone above, this will reflect badly on ford regardless of it not technically being there fault but rather the fault of rousch who is servicing the unit and the maker of the aftermarket security system. That being said if Jermey really likes the car he should just remove the security system and install a different one.. I also wonder if he has an alterior motive.

[pharzo]

Ha, i was just thinking of a guy i know from school...

His dad had a top model s-slass...don't know exactly which one but 500 at least. All the boxes on the options list were ticked as well...They had it shipped over from the US...given that germany is a ...little closer...i think you can guess the level of intelligence here :roll: So his dad gets a call from the guys...twice...telling him that his car is being stolen. The guy thought it was a prank!! So he just hung up on them... :lol: :lol:
The guys got away with his car...apparently they tracked it somewhere but nothing ever came of it. Just goes to show you what type of people get these alarm systems....nejcdolinsek can corroborate this story if he ever gets out of his slovenia :lol:

[5vz-fe]

^^I thought u have to pay for those tracking service. Geez......I know free service usually are crappy, but paying money to get annoyed, that's unacceptable.

[RC45]

I also wonder if he has an alterior motive.

My money is on this :)

[sads]

Well with 125k spair in his wallet I guess he'll be thinking Ferrari but I reckon he should go for the DB9 after all we all know how much he loves that car

[sentra_dude]

I don't think JC had an ulterior motive by getting rid of the GT. I would be pretty damn pissed if I just paid $150K for a car and the damn alarm started going off all the time, Yes, its an aftermarket alarm and all that stuff, and he could have taken it off blah blah, but that's how the car came. If something breaks, you normally take it to the dealer, and you'd expect that to fix the problem, especially considering this is not a cheap car. Why should he have to take the alarm off, even if its useless, it should be the dealer's responsibility to get the car working!

I might not go as far as he did, but I would still be damn pissed and certainly never buy another Ford product.

As to the F430 - I'm pretty sure that's just the usual JC way of saying "I like this car"; he tends to exaggerate things. :P

[RC45]

The fact he "returned it for a refund" proves he really wasn't that into keeping the car.

[nthfinity]

The fact he "returned it for a refund" proves he really wasn't that into keeping the car.
one of 28 official cars... and what happens to most of the cars that TG presenters buy... they are sold off, rather quickly it seems.

[JaguarEtype]

LOL typical, ford cant build a super car, even if it gets half a dozen other companies to do it for them
there are only a few good american cars the original GT40.. built in britain (to beat ferrari)
and the AC cobra... which was originaly made by the british company AC Ace then some guy in the US slapped a V8 in it
its like the best american VTOL aircraft.. the british harrier (is there a theme??)

i honestly think if jerremy really wanted it.. he'd save up the half million pounds and get an original GT40, atleast they worked

i only recently downloaded the clip of the GT (top gear clip) and the only thing that came to mind was the fact it was too bloody high.. it just looked completely out of proportion. that and why the hell make a new old car, especially when the old one won everything and was brilliant, thus you cant possibly re-capture it and your wasting your time trying. that and it shows that ford isnt very innovative in car aesthetics

[AlienDB7]

i honestly think if jerremy really wanted it.. he'd save up the half million pounds and get an original GT40, atleast they worked

He would but he couldn't fit in one, except for the one with the bubble.