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graywolf624
06-29-2005, 01:33 PM
http://www.autoweek.com/news.cms?newsId=102690
Blue Devil Lives!! When GM's vice chairman speaks of an ultra-performance Corvette, we listen
BOB GRITZINGER
Posted Date: 6/29/05
General Motors vice chairman Bob Lutz won’t confirm this car exists, but he is not saying it doesn’t. We first wrote about Chevrolet’s ultra-performance Corvette—dubbed Blue Devil, most likely to catch the attention of GM CEO and Duke Blue Devil grad Rick Wagoner—shortly before the sixth-generation Corvette debuted at the Detroit auto show in January (AW, Dec. 22 and 29, 2004). We asked Lutz about the car during a recent exclusive interview with AutoWeek.
“Let’s just say [Corvette chief engineer] Dave Hill is not a guy who likes playing second fiddle to any high-performance car on the road,” said Lutz. “My guess is we’re going to find a way to do something beyond the Z06, that would be at a much higher price point, and which would compete with some of the leading high-performance cars of the world.”
Lutz said the car may be delayed while the company focuses most of its engineering might on pulling ahead profit-making vehicles like its next-generation large sport/utilities and pickups.
“But there is certainly no lack of desire on anyone’s part to establish the supremacy of the Corvette,” says Lutz.
Spied on the Nurbürgring, Blue Devil appears to be living up to the earlier hype. Eyewitnesses said the car sounds supercharged, confirming reports the engine is likely a blown version of the Z06’s 7.0-liter V8, producing upward of 600 hp. Look for lightweight carbon fiber body parts to reduce weight to about 2900 pounds.
Pricing will likely start somewhere around $100,000 if and when the car makes production in 2006.
Yeah - I saw this and doubt it really.
More likely just a blue Z06 doing laps.
As it is, the "regular Z06" is stiull an unknown quanitiy with it's Goodyear Runcraps - and 100hp extra without the tyres and weight reduction to go with it just places this car dead even with the current LPE TT.
godspeed06
06-29-2005, 03:40 PM
one of the guys on corvetteforum.com swears that there is a blue devil built and hes seen it, but that its isnt for production. just kind of a test/show car kind of thing... whatever... i highly doubt gm will ever actually produce these. a one off is a real possibility though.
5vz-fe
06-29-2005, 03:44 PM
On a seperate issue, I think the blue looks much better for the Z06 than the yellow.
As for RC, u never know if GM want a car that could rival the Ford GT or something. (I know I know, the new Z06 is almost there, but ppl always think if they pay more they get more. So, if GM put a tiny something into the car and raise the price by a bunch, then they have something on the same level as the FGT :mrgreen:)
We already kick the Forking GT every way from Sunday :P
5vz-fe
06-29-2005, 04:23 PM
^lol, I gotta see some video proof on that :mrgreen:
^lol, I gotta see some video proof on that :mrgreen:
First off - lets see some video of GT's on the road other than magazine tests and delivery day ;)
With 75% still not sold, it's not exactly proving that popular.
nthfinity
06-30-2005, 10:26 AM
^lol, I gotta see some video proof on that :mrgreen:
First off - lets see some video of GT's on the road other than magazine tests and delivery day ;)
With 75% still not sold, it's not exactly proving that popular.
i blame that directly on dealers, Ford should've had complete control on all deliveries, and sales. who wants to buy a car for 50,000 above MSRP????
second, 'beat in every way' ... well, i still prefer the looks of the FGT... and the mid-engine layout...
^lol, I gotta see some video proof on that :mrgreen:
First off - lets see some video of GT's on the road other than magazine tests and delivery day ;)
With 75% still not sold, it's not exactly proving that popular.
i blame that directly on dealers, Ford should've had complete control on all deliveries, and sales. who wants to buy a car for 50,000 above MSRP????
second, 'beat in every way' ... well, i still prefer the looks of the FGT... and the mid-engine layout...
Oh - I still want one... but as a 23rd car ;) The doors alone would bug me. I took not of how many times I choose a spot where I have door access and how often the "allocated door opening space" gets lost.
About 4 times out of 10 I would have to wait for someone else before I could go home :P hehe
nthfinity
06-30-2005, 11:05 AM
About 4 times out of 10 I would have to wait for someone else before I could go home hehe
lol
well, i bet that ratio will improve somewhat if you park like this... :lol:
http://img166.imageshack.us/img166/7314/fgtpetoskey4lb.th.jpg (http://img166.imageshack.us/my.php?image=fgtpetoskey4lb.jpg) http://img166.imageshack.us/img166/673/fgtpetoskey14ji.th.jpg (http://img166.imageshack.us/my.php?image=fgtpetoskey14ji.jpg)
(sorry for the large image size, im too lazy right now to shrink it)
TransAm
06-30-2005, 11:11 AM
About 4 times out of 10 I would have to wait for someone else before I could go home :P hehe
Well if you had one in the UK with our itty-bitty parking spaces you might be looking at 8/10!
graywolf624
06-30-2005, 11:51 AM
Not to point out something you might have missed. But a 100 hp gain and a loss of 300 lbs isn't just a small increase in performance. Thats Carrerra gt type numbers.
As stated before when the ford gt hit the shelf, i think a halo car is a bad idea from an economic stand point for the domestic companies. That being said, I have every confidence that both the new zo6 and this if they make it will be rediculous performance wise. One has to admit this is the one thing gm seems to get right.
As for if its just a blue zo6 doing laps, they said it was faster then the zo6...
We hear 2005 Le Mans class winner Jan Magnussen is turning faster-than-Z06 laps in the Blue Devil at Nurburgring.
godspeed06
06-30-2005, 04:42 PM
well if there are so many damn timed laps of the z06 around the 'ring... why the fuck cant we hear about them??!!!
graywolf624
06-30-2005, 05:02 PM
My guess.. planned press release around sales time to get more money.
Not to point out something you might have missed. But a 100 hp gain and a loss of 300 lbs isn't just a small increase in performance. Thats Carrerra gt type numbers.
As stated before when the ford gt hit the shelf, i think a halo car is a bad idea from an economic stand point for the domestic companies. That being said, I have every confidence that both the new zo6 and this if they make it will be rediculous performance wise. One has to admit this is the one thing gm seems to get right.
As for if its just a blue zo6 doing laps, they said it was faster then the zo6...
We hear 2005 Le Mans class winner Jan Magnussen is turning faster-than-Z06 laps in the Blue Devil at Nurburgring.
I highly doubt all of this - it is pure crap if you ask me. Bogus spin for PR sake - Why do I say this?
Lutz said the car may be delayed while the company focuses most of its engineering might on pulling ahead profit-making vehicles like its next-generation large sport/utilities and pickups.
“But there is certainly no lack of desire on anyone’s part to establish the supremacy of the Corvette,” says Lutz.
Thats why :)
Plus there is no answer as to whether they have cured the valve train failures or the oil consumption.
Before GM goes off trying to to build a $150,000 car that will not sell at all (even less than the GT) they need to be able to release a semi stable version of the $65,000 car.
This has been debated to death before, losing 300lbs on the street cahssis is not easil;y accomplised - especially while they continue to use in essence a unibody on frame rail chassis setup.
RC that why you put lambo doors in, and BIG BIG Rims!!!! 8)
coloradosilver
07-01-2005, 01:34 AM
RC that why you put lambo doors in, and BIG BIG Rims!!!! 8)
I would think that would increase the weight, not decrease it.
I think there already is a lambo door kit you can buy aftermarket for the corvette. But if chevrolet tried to do that from the factory, god only knows what the fit and finish of that would look like. Kust one more thing that could go wrong wit the car IMO.
For the corvette...simple is better. Simple is functional. Simple is less expensive.
nthfinity
07-01-2005, 04:20 AM
ok... here's the closest to a scoop i could manage from my GM source
GM has built the blue-devil, and is running some seriously high figures.... if in power, wight, or both, he wouldn't tell me :?
no comments much beyond that... this Blue devil is quite secret @GM... i doubt to see any form of production model; but i would love to see it as an SLP OEM.
as time goes on, i'll keep on pestering :P
Yeah - sounds about right - "my" insider says that the "blue devil" is the C6R mule.
gtx28
07-01-2005, 09:48 AM
Anyone wanna lend me there "insider" i havent got one? lol
RC that why you put lambo doors in, and BIG BIG Rims!!!! 8)
I would think that would increase the weight, not decrease it.
I think there already is a lambo door kit you can buy aftermarket for the corvette. But if chevrolet tried to do that from the factory, god only knows what the fit and finish of that would look like. Kust one more thing that could go wrong wit the car IMO.
For the corvette...simple is better. Simple is functional. Simple is less expensive.
I think he was suggesting lambo scissor doors for the GT - so solve the problem of getting into the car when you only have limited door swing room.
malte
07-01-2005, 12:48 PM
i know they are testing a new engine for the C6R, jan magnussen said so at le mans and he was sad that it hadnt done enough testing to be released for le mans. I dont know if there could be a relation...
1zippo1
07-01-2005, 01:24 PM
The Z06 is a good looking car, much more the the previous Corvette, but I do still prefer the Ford GT and it's just a bit more exclusive. Still, I'm curious how the Z06 will do on the NS.
The Z06 is a good looking car, much more the the previous Corvette, but I do still prefer the Ford GT and it's just a bit more exclusive. Still, I'm curious how the Z06 will do on the NS.
Well - be curios no more - I have heard from 2 very diverse sources what the time was.
And it is probably too much for you guys to comprehend and absorb. :lol:
Had I only heard from one source, I would have my doubts - but having it corroborated is all I needed.
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