Letter from my internet provider.. :S

[abbor]

This isn't to talk about warez, it's just to talk about the MPAA or what it's called and all the bs their doing too people..

This showed up in my mail today, adressed to my dad, but he knew quickly that it was me it concerned the most..:

http://home.no.net/redheadn/JW/tele2thumb.jpg (http://home.no.net/redheadn/JW/tele2.jpg) .

Basically it says that my internet provider have gotten complaints on our line because I'm sharing copyrighted material, and that I should stop this because the Motion Picture Association has hired a norwegian lawyer company to work against users of p2p... My internet provider however is just going to be on the sideline..

I think this is kinda stupid, but I knew it would come to this some time, and now I'm wondering what to do.. I'm not excactly the worst pirate on the internet, mostly just dl simpsons and sopranos and mp3s..

Anybody else got a similar letter?

[RC45]

Anyone using P2P software has basically been sending out invites to the lawyers etc everyday every hour every minute.

Hate to say it - but stupid is as studpi does.

WTF would anyone share anything from their own computer to such a service knowing what's been happening and going on? :?:

This is what Newsgroups are for :P

[MBDriver]

I got something similiar but luckily I wasn't on my IP when it happened. :)

You should use a program to block your IP from being revealed to others. All I know...If I used my own internet connection I would of been caught a long ass time ago. hehe

Anyways, I wish the best of luck to you. I don't think it's anything bad as of right now. What P2P programs are you using?

[MBDriver]

Anyone using P2P software has basically been sending out invites to the lawyers etc everyday every hour every minute.

Hate to say it - but stupid is as studpi does.

WTF would anyone share anything from their own computer to such a service knowing what's been happening and going on? :?:

This is what Newsgroups are for :P

word. That's why you should never share on P2P programs.

[TransAm]

This is a little worrying to say the least...

[abbor]

Ahh, come on.. It has nothing to do with being stupid... This is norway, and we're not usually sued for anything..

Well, you have to share to be able to dl, that's the problem.. It isn't illegal to dl, but the 'sharing copyrighted material' is the illegal thing..

Well, I know that most likely I will never be sued or anything, cause my internet provider can't give out info about the users without a police order, and the police don't care enough to order up information about at least 60% of the internet users in norway..

I just hate the fact that this has come to norway..

[MBDriver]

Torrents in my opinion are absolutely safer than P2P. I love torrents...it's either torrents or forums for where I get all my stuff.

[T-Bird]

actually torrents are worse because you are constantly broadcasting your IP to numerous others and you have to upload to download soo... there are new programs that can help though. check the G4TV website they had a thing on yesterdays AOTS about it.

[abbor]

This is a little worrying to say the least...

:P
Thanks!

Torrent isn't safe at all.. In fact, when you use azureus, you can see the IP from everyone you dl from.. But this is moving onto violating the rules of JW.. Let's not do that..

[TransAm]

Yes, I agree

[MBDriver]

lol. Good thing I'm NEVER on my IP. :D

[RC45]

Ahh, come on.. It has nothing to do with being stupid... This is norway, and we're not usually sued for anything..

Apparently not - you did get a letter after all ;)


Well, you have to share to be able to dl, that's the problem.. It isn't illegal to dl, but the 'sharing copyrighted material' is the illegal thing..

That's the problem - you are sharing - which is telling the world who and where youare and what you have... Rather a silly action in thses days. :P


Well, I know that most likely I will never be sued or anything, cause my internet provider can't give out info about the users without a police order, and the police don't care enough to order up information about at least 60% of the internet users in norway..
If that's the case then why even post about it?


I just hate the fact that this has come to norway..

What enforcement of copyright laws?

[abbor]

Yes, never heard about anyone getting letters like this in norway before.. And I haven't been sued yet, this is the just the provider informing that they've got a complaint... Still, I think I'm gonna take it calm, cause I'm a little worried..

I'm trying out this prog:

Your IP Is 207.248.240.118

Your Country Is Mexico :P

But I'm not sure how good it works, as an OP at dc could still get my real IP.. So, Dan: Can you see my real IP?

[MBDriver]

LOL. So is that program you're using working for you eh?

[Tatiana]

Yes, never heard about anyone getting letters like this in norway before.. And I haven't been sued yet, this is the just the provider informing that they've got a complaint... Still, I think I'm gonna take it calm, cause I'm a little worried..

I'm trying out this prog:

Your IP Is 207.248.240.118

Your Country Is Mexico :P

But I'm not sure how good it works, as an OP at dc could still get my real IP.. So, Dan: Can you see my real IP?

anyone can hide behind a proxy, but its not always the perfect solution many believe it to be, depending on how the proxy you use is setup - only a few offer real anonymity.. for sure I wouldn't use any of these shitty programs to set it for me, if I was to use a proxy I'd test it myself to ensure its perfect before relying on it to cover my ass ;)

I should also say most proxy server are only for webpages.. and setting your browser to use one will not automatically route any p2p traffic you may have through it :!:

not to mention why proxy servers are set up in the first place.. any really good one is probably run by some less than legit person - do you really want them seeing what you do and then having the abiity to gain access to anything you access through their proxy server ?



now you make me think I should ban all proxies from accessing JW before some dickhead tries to use one to cause trouble

[RC45]

now you make me think I should ban all proxies from accessing JW before some dickhead tries to use one to cause trouble
That would put a damper on folks browsing through a proxy from work.. :lol: ;)

[eies]

now you make me think I should ban all proxies from accessing JW before some dickhead tries to use one to cause trouble
That would put a damper on folks browsing through a proxy from work.. :lol: ;)

well obviously I wouldn't ban any legitmate isp proxies as that would impact normal users unfairly.. just the privately run ones which are often used for no good :lol:

[SFDMALEX]

now you make me think I should ban all proxies from accessing JW before some dickhead tries to use one to cause trouble
That would put a damper on folks browsing through a proxy from work.. :lol: ;)

Some places they block any proxy related sites :wink: and by places I mean work places.

[TransAm]

So Dan, you can tell if I am logging on from home or work just by looking in the logfiles (or whatever) of JW :?:

[bloeb]

So Dan, you can tell if I am logging on from home or work just by looking in the logfiles (or whatever) of JW :?:

I dont even need to look at the logfiles ;)


BTW abbor..

Testing 207.248.240.118...
Hostname: host-207-248-240-118.block.alestra.net.mx
Latency: 225 ms
Speed: 17.65 kbps
Open High Anonymity HTTP Proxy Server Detected on Port 80.

[Vansquish]

...but isn't that the same IP he just posted a few posts back? That says he's in Mexico...hence... ".mx"...which doesn't seem right if he's logging in from Arendal, Norway.

[moszi]

my point was/is its not a very good proxy if you can easily see its a proxy..

if I wanted his real IP I can just look and tell him what its been for the last x months as it rarely changes :P

[MBDriver]

Dan\/6, you scare me now. lol

just kidding. :D

[abbor]

my point was/is its not a very good proxy if you can easily see its a proxy..

if I wanted his real IP I can just look and tell him what its been for the last x months as it rarely changes :P


Yes, I now you can see that, and I've also found out it doesn't work in p2p-apps.. I asked people if they could manage to find my ip, and they could easily find the real one.. So I've stopped using this ip-hider.. Thanks for giving it to me MB, but it wasn't good enough..

But it could be that everyone is just seeing the ip I used before, and letting me know they can find that, but if I were new at the place, they wouldn't know that there was a difference...

[Vansquish]

:oops: hehe...I didn't quite understand what the point was, my bad!!!