Does anyone know anything about shooting ? (Air Rifles)

[Jabba]

I am thinking about buying a "Crosman King Ratcatcher 'Total Pest Control'" for some vermin control it seems to be a general upgrade from the standard "Rat Catcher" (listed above it) except for one part...

The standard rat catcher has a "Crosman Class 111A Laser" which is the red dot laser targeting system I think (£54.99 ) where as the King Rat Catcher has a Hawke Tactical Laser Sight (£29.95).

Does anyone know what the difference is between the sights and also why the upgraded one would be cheaper ??

Any help in general on the subject would also be appreciated.

LINK (http://www.airsportdirect.com/cgi-bin/sh000001.pl?REFPAGE=http%3a%2f%2fwww%2eairsportdir ect%2ecom%2fcgi%2dbin%2fss000001%2epl%3fRANDOM%3dN ETQUOTEVAR%253ARANDOM%26PAGE%3dSEARCH%26SS%3dlaser %26TB%3dA&WD=laser&PREVQUERY=RANDOM%3dNETQUOTEVAR%253ARANDOM%26PAGE%3 dSEARCH%26SS%3dlaser%26TB%3dA&PN=CrosmanRifle%2ehtml%23a205#a205)


(You may have to scroll up the page to see the rifles in question)

[ZfrkS62]

i think the tactical laser doesn't actually project a laser on the target itself, that way it doesn't alert the pest to your presence :twisted: Which is why it would be cheaper.

Wish i could find a silencer for my gun here :(

[Jabba]

Hmm I thought as much...do you know how its targeting system would work then ?

[ZfrkS62]

I believe it has a glowing dot in the sight that doesn't actually project. It looks to be battery powered, but the pic isnt' too clear :? For the scope and all, it's going to take a couple hours to get it all sighted in. By that time, every rat within 2 blocks will have an idea as to what's going on so you'll probably never see them unless the gun is too far away to pop them off :lol: (that always happens to me when stalking bushy tailed tree rats)

[Jabba]

So more of a novelty than a practical aid you think ??

BTW check this out for getting owned this guy rekons he got 287 rabbits, 32 pigeons and 12 pheasants. All of this in just under 2 hours.

http://www.reviewcentre.com/review146979.html

but someone did the math LOL

http://www.reviewcentre.com/review_comments146979.html

[T-Bird]

yeah that's basically a reddot sight rather than a laser sight I've got one for my paintball gun it just puts a red dot on your sight so that it doesn't project on the target they are pretty much worhtless. I prefer a green laser for night games swith a decent night vision scope that works way better.

[RC45]

Awesome... unless it's Robin Hood... in tights.. ;)

[Jabba]

Awesome... unless it's Robin Hood... in tights.. ;)

I think it could be Krazy Hawaiian posting under another name :lol:

[Jabba]

yeah that's basically a reddot sight rather than a laser sight I've got one for my paintball gun it just puts a red dot on your sight so that it doesn't project on the target they are pretty much worhtless. I prefer a green laser for night games swith a decent night vision scope that works way better.

So I guess thats why its fitted with the Tracer Atom Gun Lamp then ?

[T-Bird]

yeah that lamp seems to be a low reflection lamp they use those because they are less likely to freak out the animals ( I may be wrong it could be a normal mini-spot light)

[gis]

sod the air rifle Jabba,get a Bow instead,i can get you a nice discount on stuff like that.lol

[ZfrkS62]

So more of a novelty than a practical aid you think ??

BTW check this out for getting owned this guy rekons he got 287 rabbits, 32 pigeons and 12 pheasants. All of this in just under 2 hours.

http://www.reviewcentre.com/review146979.html

but someone did the math LOL

http://www.reviewcentre.com/review_comments146979.html

LMAO!!!! Maybe over a course of 2 years he nailed all those :lol: either that or i would say he was pigeon hunting in Phoenix or New York :lol:

[TransAm]

sod the air rifle Jabba,get a Bow instead,i can get you a nice discount on stuff like that.lol

A crossbow might be a better idea? I'd imagine it is easier to learn to use and shoot accurately...

What about a cat, Jabba?

[blinkmeat]

Get an exterminator. Think about all the guts and parts you'd have to pick up

[BADMIHAI]

Get an exterminator. Think about all the guts and parts you'd have to pick up


I never figured you for a softie. :lol:

A very important thing about an airgun is that it has a rifled barrel and double stage trigger. Also, choose your ammo carefully. You wouldn't believe how big of a difference the quality of the ammo makes.

[SilviaEvo]

yeah ammo makes a big difference. ive shot a Gamo. thsoe are pretty good

[Toronto]

see how much an exterminator would cost you.
see how much traps cost you
see how much the guns cost
then what one do you want to pay for?

[blah]

if you dont want to kill the bastards then i recommend an Air Soft gun, although if you get a gas powered mauser you would kill the lil fucks, and have fun too. 8)

[666fast]

why not get a .22 caliber rifle and a nice night vision scope??

the .22's are very low in firing, and pack a nice little punch when it comes to rodents.

Considering the gun laws in the UK, he'd probably have to go through a bunch of paperwork before buying one. Also, if it's anything like it is here, it's illegal to fire within city limits. A BB gun techinically is as well, but if you have a fenced in yard, who's gonna know? Whereas, the whole neighborhood will know if you are shooting a .22! LOL

Don't use BB's, they don't go straight. Make sure to get some good pellets.

I've used those laser scopes, pretty worthless IMO. You just need to practice.

Also, make sure to hit a vital area of whatever you want to die. (head, heart) Growing up where I did (read: middle of nowhere), I've shot all kinds of critters, more often than not, you'll just make it run away!

[Jabba]

why not get a .22 caliber rifle and a nice night vision scope??

the .22's are very low in firing, and pack a nice little punch when it comes to rodents.

The Ratcatcher is a .22 CO2 Rifle.

The Ultimate in close range Pest Control. Ultra compact at 14.6 inches. Ultra light at 3.5 lbs and at approx 8ft/lbs more than enough power.

"Stacks of whack, the most powerful CO2 in the UK. The bolt operates as smoothly as silk, with a well engineered snick." - Airgunner magazine.

Comes complete with a Crosman 4x15 scope, ProBlox, Mounts and 10 CO2 Capsules.

http://www.airsportdirect.com/acatalog/RatcatcherTotalPestControl.jpg

why not get a .22 caliber rifle and a nice night vision scope??

the .22's are very low in firing, and pack a nice little punch when it comes to rodents.

Considering the gun laws in the UK, he'd probably have to go through a bunch of paperwork before buying one. Also, if it's anything like it is here, it's illegal to fire within city limits. A BB gun techinically is as well, but if you have a fenced in yard, who's gonna know? Whereas, the whole neighborhood will know if you are shooting a .22! LOL



Yep I have a fenced in lawn of an acre or so and there are just empty fields beyond that.... with no neighbours to speak of plus with the silencer I should be ok with a bit of luck...

see how much an exterminator would cost you.
see how much traps cost you
see how much the guns cost
then what one do you want to pay for?

I am not really into killing things that are doing me no harm and I have put up with my current pigeon problem for a good few months now...however it has now gone beyond a joke with about 30 of them (and increasing weekly) shitting over everything (inc my cars) and its taking hours to clean up the mess every weekend...plus they keep waking me up at like 5am by walking across my roof....it might not sound serious...but it has really started to piss me off big time....I can co-exsist with say 12 but I am slowly being taken over by the damn things...

I think the gun is sadly the only way to go for them...as I could only think of poison as an alternative..and I don't want to harm the other birds and animals in the garden that are doing no harm....

[Jabba]

why not get a .22 caliber rifle and a nice night vision scope??

the .22's are very low in firing, and pack a nice little punch when it comes to rodents.

The Ratcatcher is a .22 CO2 Rifle.

The Ultimate in close range Pest Control. Ultra compact at 14.6 inches. Ultra light at 3.5 lbs and at approx 8ft/lbs more than enough power.

"Stacks of whack, the most powerful CO2 in the UK. The bolt operates as smoothly as silk, with a well engineered snick." - Airgunner magazine.

Comes complete with a Crosman 4x15 scope, ProBlox, Mounts and 10 CO2 Capsules.

http://www.airsportdirect.com/acatalog/RatcatcherTotalPestControl.jpg

why not get a .22 caliber rifle and a nice night vision scope??

the .22's are very low in firing, and pack a nice little punch when it comes to rodents.

Considering the gun laws in the UK, he'd probably have to go through a bunch of paperwork before buying one. Also, if it's anything like it is here, it's illegal to fire within city limits. A BB gun techinically is as well, but if you have a fenced in yard, who's gonna know? Whereas, the whole neighborhood will know if you are shooting a .22! LOL



Yep I have a fenced in lawn of an acre or so and there are just empty fields beyond that.... with no neighbours to speak of plus with the silencer I should be ok with a bit of luck...

see how much an exterminator would cost you.
see how much traps cost you
see how much the guns cost
then what one do you want to pay for?

I am not really into killing things that are doing me no harm and I have put up with my current pigeon problem for a good few months now...however it has now gone beyond a joke with about 30 of them (and increasing weekly) shitting over everything (inc my cars) and its taking hours to clean up the mess every weekend...plus they keep waking me up at like 5am by walking across my roof....it might not sound serious...but it has really started to piss me off big time....I can co-exsist with say 12 but I am slowly being taken over by the damn things...

I think the gun is sadly the only way to go for them...as I could only think of poison as an alternative..and I don't want to harm the other birds and animals in the garden that are doing no harm....

Also, choose your ammo carefully. You wouldn't believe how big of a difference the quality of the ammo makes.

Yep...gonna try some of these :

Crosman Verminpell : The .22 Verminpell is the no.1 choice for close range humane pest control, where maximum energy on impact and restricted penetration is a necessity.

[Jabba]

Well with some luck it should be here tommorow so I might be able to post a small review and a short video of the first pigeon meeting its maker...LOL

[ZfrkS62]

Well with some luck it should be here tommorow so I might be able to post a small review and a short video of the first pigeon meeting its maker...LOL

LMAO!! Pigeons: the most useless bird on the face of the planet :P

You should take a tail fether from each bird shot as a trophy :D Or display the corpse on the roof as a warning to others :lol:

[RC45]

Pigeon pie - :)

Jabba's Home Made Pigeon Pie.

I like the sound of that - I may not like the taste though.... ;)

[TransAm]

You might be able to do a deal with your local kebab shop Jabba :wink:

[Anonymous]

Good to hear you're a realist! :D to many people these days say such things are cruel, yada yada yada, but they are a pest causing you trouble so why should you be all nice and put up with them! Happy hunting :D definately far preferable to other methods looks like a mean gun too :D

You might be able to do a deal with your local kebab shop Jabba :wink:

:lol: Well they are flying rats so i guess they'd qualify :P

[Toronto]

what you guys never ate "Rock dove"?
enjoy it Jabba :D

[Jabba]

Sadly I have been a vegetarian for the last 30 years....to be honest I cant help feeling sorry for them...but I cant exactly write them a letter saying what is going to happen unless they find a new home...hopefully once a few have been killed the rest will take the hint....

[antonioledesma]

Sadly I have been a vegetarian for the last 30 years...

are you kidding??? :shock:
so your parents raised you being a vegetarian??

and what a beauty of the co2 rifle 8) we'll wait the first tests

[Jabba]

Sadly I have been a vegetarian for the last 30 years...

are you kidding??? :shock:
so your parents raised you being a vegetarian??

and what a beauty of the co2 rifle 8) we'll wait the first tests

No not really...I just kinda went off it at a young age...and never felt the desire to start eating it again...couldnt give a shit about the animals though....just I choose not to eat it....

[antonioledesma]

it too bad you've missed the pleasures of some baby-back ribs :mrgreen:

now enjoy your new toy :mrgreen: :snipersmile:

[ZfrkS62]

Well with some luck it should be here tommorow so I might be able to post a small review and a short video of the first pigeon meeting its maker...LOL

LMAO!! Pigeons: the most useless bird on the face of the planet :P

You should take a tail fether from each bird shot as a trophy :D Or display the corpse on the roof as a warning to others :lol:


Z, your nuts man. have some pigeon soup then try telling me that they are useless. i havent had some in a while but i do remember it welll and it was damn good. tastes like chicken pretty much.
good stuff.

Yeah i've been acused of being a little unbalanced before :D

and pigeon soup??? :puke: Sorry dude, but after seeing the bridges these things live under...noooo thanks.

And what doesn't taste like chicken? how do we know chicken just doesn't taste like everything else? :wink: lol, sorry, workin on not enough sleep :lol:

[ZfrkS62]

ahhh.. so you wouldn't go pigeon hunting..just pigeon shopping :wink:

[ZfrkS62]

ahhh.. so you wouldn't go pigeon hunting..just pigeon shopping :wink:

in the states no, in Portugal def. and pussy cat hunting :wink:

isn't the latter a worldwide event :D :twisted:

[coombsie66]

Last time i tried to 'subtly' shoot some crows and pigeons on a quiet sunday afternoon with the neighbours in their gardens i decided to use the air rifle we have at home, its pretty damn old, fooking heavy and not that powerfull.
I hit about 3 pigeons and they just kept fuckin flying! Hit one crow and grounded it, then spent the next 15 minutes following the crawwwwwing noise to find the injured crow in the woods across the road.
Found it, then attempted to beat it to death on a fence post (didnt have gun) it fooking bit my on the web between my thumb and finger!!! Little fucker got it then!
As a result, i only ever use a 12 bore now. much more effective :wink:

[ZfrkS62]

Last time i tried to 'subtly' shoot some crows and pigeons on a quiet sunday afternoon with the neighbours in their gardens i decided to use the air rifle we have at home, its pretty damn old, fooking heavy and not that powerfull.
I hit about 3 pigeons and they just kept fuckin flying! Hit one crow and grounded it, then spent the next 15 minutes following the crawwwwwing noise to find the injured crow in the woods across the road.
Found it, then attempted to beat it to death on a fence post (didnt have gun) it fooking bit my on the web between my thumb and finger!!! Little fucker got it then!
As a result, i only ever use a 12 bore now. much more effective :wink:

LMAO!!! I'm sure you'd have bit whatever was bashing your head against a fence post as well :lol:

[Jabba]

Last time i tried to 'subtly' shoot some crows and pigeons on a quiet sunday afternoon with the neighbours in their gardens i decided to use the air rifle we have at home, its pretty damn old, fooking heavy and not that powerfull.
I hit about 3 pigeons and they just kept fuckin flying! Hit one crow and grounded it, then spent the next 15 minutes following the crawwwwwing noise to find the injured crow in the woods across the road.
Found it, then attempted to beat it to death on a fence post (didnt have gun) it fooking bit my on the web between my thumb and finger!!! Little fucker got it then!
As a result, i only ever use a 12 bore now. much more effective :wink:

Like ya style coombsie.... :lol:

[TransAm]

The latest custom title, perhaps?:

Coombsie66
JW Bludgeoner

JW Bird Scarer

[Jabba]

You dont think sharp shooter then...

Quick update got the gun today...I will post pics and review up tommorow if I get time....

[TransAm]

Your call if it happens of course. JW Bird Scarer has a double meaning so I thought that was a good'un.

Looking forward your review and a video of the rifle in action! 8)

[ZfrkS62]

Coombsie66
JW Buldgeoner


.....anyone else see something wrong with this suggestion? :lol: *hint* spelling counts :wink:

[TransAm]

^ Ok, good spot - ya got me :oops:

I have edited my original post in shame...

*thinks up excuse along the lines of dictionary packed in a box* :twisted:

[ZfrkS62]

^ Ok, good spot - ya got me :oops:

I have edited my original post in shame...

*thinks up excuse along the lines of dictionary packed in a box* :twisted:

hahaha :D what was it you said about kicking you when you're down? :wink: