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TransAm
06-27-2005, 04:06 PM
Gallon of 5W-30 Mobil1 $19.99

Fram XG Filter $9.97

Savlon spray for burnt shoulder and grazed elbow $4.36

Realising half way through the job (after undoing the sump plug) you need an oil filter wrench because you put the last one on too tight... Priceless



Luckily I was able to jump on the DR to go out and get one...

Anonymous
06-27-2005, 04:12 PM
Gallon of 5W-30 Mobil1 $19.99

Fram XG Filter $9.97

Savlon spray for burnt shoulder and grazed elbow $4.36

Realising half way through the job (after undoing the sump plug) you need an oil filter wrench because you put the last one on too tight... Priceless



Luckily I was able to jump on the DR to go out and get one...

LOL i sympathise, i have a mini :P as for the filter do what i did last time stick a screwdriver through it, worked well enuf :P

TransAm
06-27-2005, 04:16 PM
When I try and bodge stuff I make it worse...I wanted to keep the filter intact just in case I needed to drive 200yds up the road to the valvoline lube shop.

What got my goat was the fact I put the last filter on by hand so you'd think it'd come off as easily wouldn't you?

T-Bird
06-27-2005, 05:20 PM
When I try and bodge stuff I make it worse...I wanted to keep the filter intact just in case I needed to drive 200yds up the road to the valvoline lube shop.

What got my goat was the fact I put the last filter on by hand so you'd think it'd come off as easily wouldn't you?

that's what heat will do shit you think you got it bad on my T-bird the oil filter is about 1/2 an inch from the exhaust manifold and conveniently in a groove in the K-memeber so once I get the damn thing loose I have to drop it into the K-memeber then let it slide down under the engine into a hole and voila it's out then reverse it for the new one, it gets messy.

TransAm
06-27-2005, 05:26 PM
:shock: T-Bird, I thought I had it bad! You can put it on a lift at your college/work though, can't you?

lev_p
06-27-2005, 05:48 PM
You've never undone an oil filter off a Pug/Citroen fitted with A/C :lol:

T-Bird
06-27-2005, 05:52 PM
:shock: T-Bird, I thought I had it bad! You can put it on a lift at your college/work though, can't you?

They don't let us do just an oil change there, you have to do something else aswell or else everyone would be using it to do oil changes and we only have 12 lifts you know. :wink:

Oh and the Pathfinder I don't even have to lift off the ground just remove the skid plate and I can do it kneeling down in front of it, I do have to get on my back to reach the drain plug though.

TransAm
06-27-2005, 06:00 PM
LOL! only 12?

T-Bird
06-27-2005, 06:02 PM
LOL! only 12?

Well originally it was going to be 14 but they needed to scratch 2 of them in place of the Dyno...

RC45
06-27-2005, 06:02 PM
On the RC45 all you had to do was borrow a midget so they could get their hands into the small space between the headers, block and atrociously expensive curved radiator (made of an obscure alloy of unobtanium) without damaging anything - then ever so gently apply 10000000Nm of torque to unscrew the damn thing - all the while trying not to damage any of the parts of the magnesium engine case castings etc.

Or you remove said radiator and headers - further risking stripping and or snapping the notoruiously brittle header studs.

This is part of thje reason I sold it - couldn't be bothered with another oil change... ;)

ZfrkS62
06-27-2005, 07:32 PM
Gallon of 5W-30 Mobil1 $19.99

Fram XG Filter $9.97

Savlon spray for burnt shoulder and grazed elbow $4.36

Realising half way through the job (after undoing the sump plug) you need an oil filter wrench because you put the last one on too tight... Priceless



Luckily I was able to jump on the DR to go out and get one...

:lol: All this makes me glad i work for a company that was smart enough to use cartridge filters in TOP of the engine :lol: well, except for the N62 and 73 which are down below next to the drain plug. Still nicer than anything GM ever did :wink:

At least it's not a damn Toyota Rav 4 :? Got a 3rd degree burn on top of my finger while going after the oil filter, ingeniously placed directly UNDER the Exhaust manifold and shoved 2 inches from the radiator :x

Or it could be that midengined toyota van :? talk about a pain in the ass.

Then again the Cadillac Nothstar V8 isn't exactly a cakewalk despite the filter being on top of the engine :P

hahaha, i could go on and on and on, but i won't :wink:

TransAm
06-27-2005, 08:20 PM
Zfrk - I can imagine that MR2's and anything else mid-engined must be a real PITA.

I didn't know the BMWs were so easy to work on - I had the free 3/36 maintenance, so I did nothing more than check the oil (it never needed topping up :D ) and windscreen wash.



@RC - the DR I could do with my eyes closed - filter on the side, no fairings to worry about. In fact the most difficult part of it was getting the oil into the engine through the quarter/10pence - sized hole (I cut the stem off a plastic wine glass)

T-Bird
06-27-2005, 08:22 PM
yeah the BMW we have at school is very easy to access the cartridge on. New Saturns have the same design aswell.

ZfrkS62
06-27-2005, 08:52 PM
Zfrk - I can imagine that MR2's and anything else mid-engined must be a real PITA.

I didn't know the BMWs were so easy to work on - I had the free 3/36 maintenance, so I did nothing more than check the oil (it never needed topping up :D ) and windscreen wash.



@RC - the DR I could do with my eyes closed - filter on the side, no fairings to worry about. In fact the most difficult part of it was getting the oil into the engine through the quarter/10pence - sized hole (I cut the stem off a plastic wine glass)

Actually the MR2 is probably the easiest yoda to change the filter on since you can get it from the side :lol:

The M20 motor in the older Bimmers uses a typical filter. Little bit of a challenge but not horrid.

The easiest car EVER to change the filter on...my Z :D the intake and exhaust namifolds are both on the left side of the engine, leaving the right side completely open, so that's where Nissan stuck the filter :D

gtx28
06-27-2005, 10:06 PM
The worst one ive ever done was on an 86 Caprice Classic, ended up ripping the can appart then off then sticking two screw drivers up in the part of the filter closest to the block and then puting a pry bar threw the screw drivers to turn the damn thing off.

RC, ive heard that the newer bikes coming out are alot faster anyhow. A friend of mine rides a 1000cc honda from a few years back and says that all the new 600cc are kicking his ass. Hey i thought i read that you speak afrikaans? I used to live 6 mi north of Johannesburg, now live back in the states here in fla. Was fluent in afrikaans at one time.

ZfrkS62
06-27-2005, 10:20 PM
The worst one ive ever done was on an 86 Caprice Classic, ended up ripping the can appart then off then sticking two screw drivers up in the part of the filter closest to the block and then puting a pry bar threw the screw drivers to turn the damn thing off.



Been there, shredded that :lol:

gobs3z
06-27-2005, 10:48 PM
Well if you ever decide to buy a Harley V-Rod, oil changes involve removing the engine, so stop complaining :lol: .

T-Bird
06-27-2005, 11:00 PM
well it was designed by Porsche so...

gobs3z
06-27-2005, 11:46 PM
well it was designed by Porsche so...

Touche!!

TransAm
06-28-2005, 12:06 AM
Well if you ever decide to buy a Harley V-Rod, oil changes involve removing the engine, so stop complaining :lol: .

I'd sooner stick pins in my eyes while listening to Hanson than own a HD :lol: (sorry, TT) but that's not to say I'd not own a Japanese cruiser one day in the future...

Although I can't speak for RC45 on this one as I don't know his opinion of them...

gobs3z
06-28-2005, 01:08 AM
I ended up unseuccessful with scratches all over my arm trying to get the dam filter off my golf, and my friend does it in one try, what the hell is that about...haha. It's also a pain if the engine is hot since the intake manifold will boil anything around it.

T-Bird
06-28-2005, 01:50 AM
you should all do what I plan on doing and that is getting a $35 filter relocation kit very simple to install and a life saver in the end.

T-Bird
06-28-2005, 03:33 AM
well basically there is an adapter that screws onto the block then it has 2 lines coming off of it that goes to a bracket bolted somewhere on the car (your choice) that has the "stud" bolt whatever on it and voila a remote oil filter for easy access.

T-Bird
06-28-2005, 03:42 AM
I haven't done it yet but I know people who have done and it works great they use it on most racecars and I know all the Shelby Cobras have them. If you tighten everything correctly there's no reason it shouldn't work plus you get an extra quart of oil out of it.

ZfrkS62
06-28-2005, 01:08 PM
I haven't done it yet but I know people who have done and it works great they use it on most racecars and I know all the Shelby Cobras have them. If you tighten everything correctly there's no reason it shouldn't work plus you get an extra quart of oil out of it.

are you thinking of a dry sump pump??

sounds kinda like what he's describing but i can't be sure. i can envision it, but the price he's talking about sounds a bit low for a dry sump :|

RC45
06-28-2005, 01:28 PM
Dry sump oiling is rather different to filter relocation.

http://www.perma-cool.com/Catalog/CatImages/PG27-L1.gif

http://www.perma-cool.com/Catalog/Cat_page27.html

The one is simply achieved, as you would relocate an alternator (within reason) ore a battery etc.

Dry sump'ing is something designed into the engine from early on.

hemi_fan
06-29-2005, 10:04 AM
On an older Toyota pick-up, it took me 20 mins to find the damn filter (cuz they thought it was a good idea to make their filters black), then upon locating it, i had to remove the inner fender to get at it, and even then I was the only one with an arm small enough to get to it.

FoxFour
06-30-2005, 07:41 PM
When I first did an oil change on my mom's '92 Cadillac Sedan De Ville, the manual showed that the oil filter is located on top of the engine block, just off to the side of the intake manifold. I saw a canister located in that general location so I put the handy oil strap wrench on it but it would not budge. After a few minutes trying to get that thing off, I then noticed that the canister was connected to the ABS braking system. Must be a moisture trap. OOPS :oops: After locating the filter, oil changes on that car is a snap, especially with Rhino Ramps.

ZfrkS62
07-02-2005, 02:50 PM
When I first did an oil change on my mom's '92 Cadillac Sedan De Ville, the manual showed that the oil filter is located on top of the engine block, just off to the side of the intake manifold. I saw a canister located in that general location so I put the handy oil strap wrench on it but it would not budge. After a few minutes trying to get that thing off, I then noticed that the canister was connected to the ABS braking system. Must be a moisture trap. OOPS :oops: After locating the filter, oil changes on that car is a snap, especially with Rhino Ramps.

Actually that canister is the pressure accumulator. It's nitrogen charged and had you broken it loose, probably would not be making that post :shock:

T-Bird
07-02-2005, 02:54 PM
When I first did an oil change on my mom's '92 Cadillac Sedan De Ville, the manual showed that the oil filter is located on top of the engine block, just off to the side of the intake manifold. I saw a canister located in that general location so I put the handy oil strap wrench on it but it would not budge. After a few minutes trying to get that thing off, I then noticed that the canister was connected to the ABS braking system. Must be a moisture trap. OOPS :oops: After locating the filter, oil changes on that car is a snap, especially with Rhino Ramps.

Actually that canister is the pressure accumulator. It's nitrogen charged and had you broken it loose, probably would not be making that post :shock:

Yeah I've seen what can happen when you mess with those it's actually pretty cool although the one I saw was a spherical shape. It's about as cool as setting an airbag off facing the ground. and yes I know both things could kill you but when it's in a controlled environment it's not soo bad.