Tom Cruise and Ritalin

[abbor]

after the microphone incident, he has once again showed what an ass he can be on a show..:


http://premium.cnn.com/2005/SHOWBIZ/TV/06/24/people.cruise.ap/

[RC45]

Matt, Matt, Matt, Matt, Matt, Matt - I am better than you Matt. I am great - Matt, Matt, Matt you don't know how much I know how much better I am than you Matt.

[antonioledesma]

Matt Matt Matt... look at me....
have a close-up to my face and see me with my copyrighted smile

:lol:
as he would know something more than his shoe size

[Aleighy]

this interview is like the first thing my mom told me about today when i got home. how tom was all like, "i know, i know what im talking about, ive studied it." cmon, tom, you arent a doctor, dude, you dont even have a college degree...in anything...let alone psychology. maybe ritalin would be a good idea for you?

[Anonymous]

Of course we all know the cure for everyhting is to join a cult :roll: I'd love to see the interview, really sounded like cruise was the one who was clueless. I hate things like this, its as bad as faith healers who claim to cure cancer and get people to stop conventional treatments, dangerous nutjobs :roll: Once again he proves what an arse he is. Probably i'll still watch war of the worlds though! :lol:

[Sm@ck]

PEople are making to much of a big deal out of this

[RC45]

Of course we all know the cure for everyhting is to join a cult :roll: I'd love to see the interview, really sounded like cruise was the one who was clueless. I hate things like this, its as bad as faith healers who claim to cure cancer and get people to stop conventional treatments, dangerous nutjobs :roll: Once again he proves what an arse he is. Probably i'll still watch war of the worlds though! :lol:

As I was watching it, I was picturing you losing it and lobbing a large potted fern at the telly all the while screaming obscenities - cause I know, if I had a potted fern, that's what I would have done.. ;) :P

However - I will add, if anyone even mentions Ritalin and my child in the same sentence I will bury a hatchet in their face - so one the one hand I am with him on too many people/kids run for a medication to cure normal daily ills, I am also astonished that one of the biggest stars in the universe could have been so reckless with his comments on TV.

[pharzo]

Well in reply to sm@ck, cult is usually used as a term to describe people who believe in something false....and as most people are still delusioned by the man in the sky (God)....

Tom Cruise is an idiot, because really what he's attacking here is ADHD as a diagnosis....and there is some proof that this is disease invented by american doctors to take the burden of parenting off parents :roll:

However, then generalizing to say that all psychiatry is false is stupid....psychiatry is always evolving, and still a relatively new field. Cruise should stick to smiling for the camera, because no one cares what he thinks about anything

[ZfrkS62]

Of course we all know the cure for everyhting is to join a cult :roll: I'd love to see the interview, really sounded like cruise was the one who was clueless. I hate things like this, its as bad as faith healers who claim to cure cancer and get people to stop conventional treatments, dangerous nutjobs :roll: Once again he proves what an arse he is. Probably i'll still watch war of the worlds though! :lol:

As I was watching it, I was picturing you losing it and lobbing a large potted fern at the telly all the while screaming obscenities - cause I know, if I had a potted fern, that's what I would have done.. ;) :P

However - I will add, if anyone even mentions Ritalin and my child in the same sentence I will bury a hatchet in their face - so one the one hand I am with him on too many people/kids run for a medication to cure normal daily ills, I am also astonished that one of the biggest stars in the universe could have been so reckless with his comments on TV.


Who the hell has a potted fern these days? :lol:

Cruise is a complete moron. His acting is alot like John Travolta's. It's either hit or miss...usually miss. Apparently his thought proccess isn't muh better than his acting :roll:

Someone remind me why these egotistical jack asses are worth millions??

[Fpedro]

Someone remind me why these egotistical jack asses are worth millions??

because stupid people care what they are doing :P

[ZfrkS62]

Someone remind me why these egotistical jack asses are worth millions??

because stupid people care what they are doing :P

is that only reason? :?

[blah]

id love for him to try and argue with me. Id make him end up either storming off, or crying. He be so damn confused.

[Anonymous]

Of course we all know the cure for everyhting is to join a cult :roll: I'd love to see the interview, really sounded like cruise was the one who was clueless. I hate things like this, its as bad as faith healers who claim to cure cancer and get people to stop conventional treatments, dangerous nutjobs :roll: Once again he proves what an arse he is. Probably i'll still watch war of the worlds though! :lol:

As I was watching it, I was picturing you losing it and lobbing a large potted fern at the telly all the while screaming obscenities - cause I know, if I had a potted fern, that's what I would have done.. ;) :P

However - I will add, if anyone even mentions Ritalin and my child in the same sentence I will bury a hatchet in their face - so one the one hand I am with him on too many people/kids run for a medication to cure normal daily ills, I am also astonished that one of the biggest stars in the universe could have been so reckless with his comments on TV.

HAHAHAH Maybe i could lob my laptop instead! :P but yeh you can't imagine how angry i would get seeing that. I remember a "watchdog" docu on faith healers etc, saying they could cure cancer, giving people such false hope is criminal in my eyes. The practices scientology advocate are similarly deplorable in my eyes.

Ok so yes i agree far to many kids are just perscribed drugs as a miracle cure, but to write off the entire profession of psychiatry is misguided IMO as you say its bloody irresponsible to imply that poeple should not seek conventional treatment and instead turn to some crackpot cult (waiting to get sued by them for expressing my opinion of them :P)

[blah]

Simple reason as to why many kids are on ritaln is easy. Kids start doing bad in school, parents ask why, kid says i cant pay attention, parents take to doc, doc prescribes it. THe real problem is the kids are doing so bad is because they are bored as hell. The teachers barely know what they are teaching, and the kids can see that, so they just dick around. Hell i knew more about some of the crap they were teaching me in elementary school than my teachers.

[blah]

Not to mention taht schools are over crowded, which means that most children arent getting the attention they need from their teachers.

Tom Cruise = a Dousche who should only act and leave public speaking to public speakers.

[ARMAN]

Simple reason as to why many kids are on ritaln is easy. Kids start doing bad in school, parents ask why, kid says i cant pay attention, parents take to doc, doc prescribes it. THe real problem is the kids are doing so bad is because they are bored as hell. The teachers barely know what they are teaching, and the kids can see that, so they just dick around. Hell i knew more about some of the crap they were teaching me in elementary school than my teachers.

And thats I think is the real reason of lots of kids on drugs, teachers anable to learn them properly and looking for "shortcut" cause they have no idea themselves how to explain things to children. And principals see lots of students on those drugs and think that thats a solution and give drugs to all the sudents so they can "learn better" :roll: Its not about Scientology, its about teacher's ability's.

Anyone have to use anything from Scientology in your life, if you have any other way to do it, just do it any way other than drugs, if it works - excelent! :P


BTW is there a FULL video someware? Just curious what was the whole talk not only quotes by a journalist 8)

[Anonymous]

Simple reason as to why many kids are on ritaln is easy. Kids start doing bad in school, parents ask why, kid says i cant pay attention, parents take to doc, doc prescribes it. THe real problem is the kids are doing so bad is because they are bored as hell. The teachers barely know what they are teaching, and the kids can see that, so they just dick around. Hell i knew more about some of the crap they were teaching me in elementary school than my teachers.

And thats I think is the real reason of lots of kids on drugs, teachers anable to learn them properly and looking for "shortcut" cause they have no idea themselves how to explain things to children. And principals see lots of students on those drugs and think that thats a solution and give drugs to all the sudents so they can "learn better" :roll: Its not about Scientology, its about teacher's ability's.

Anyone have to use anything from Scientology in your life, if you have any other way to do it, just do it any way other than drugs, if it works - excelent! :P
eh?? he dismissed the use of all drugs in mental health problems basically, i'm afraid that at least temporarily some of conditions require some form of medication to control the symptoms AFAIK. Really if we stopped all prescribing of drugs to people suffering mental health problems it would be chaos, sure there was a time when there were no drugs to treat such problems, but times are different now, people have different problems to deal with.

On the issue of schooling i agree as i have already said, but that is not the main issue here, and i would also suggest that in some cases the parents have to take some of the blame. Any one who has seen the current trend of programs on tv focusing on "problem" children would have to agree on that one. Teachers can't take all the blame IMO. Anyway i'm still thinking about becoming one! :lol: might regret it judging by the little monsters about these days :P happy slapping, i wish we were allowed to slap them :P

[ARMAN]

On the issue of schooling i agree as i have already said, but that is not the main issue here, and i would also suggest that in some cases the parents have to take some of the blame. Any one who has seen the current trend of programs on tv focusing on "problem" children would have to agree on that one. Teachers can't take all the blame IMO.


Sure, I didnt mean that teachers are the only one to blame :mrgreen:

[Anonymous]

On the issue of schooling i agree as i have already said, but that is not the main issue here, and i would also suggest that in some cases the parents have to take some of the blame. Any one who has seen the current trend of programs on tv focusing on "problem" children would have to agree on that one. Teachers can't take all the blame IMO.


Sure, I didnt mean that teachers are the only one to blame :mrgreen:

cool, cos then you might soon be blaming me :P Anyway i was lucky with some of the teachers i had, really my school was in crappy surroundings (decrepid buildings) but i couldn't fault some of my teachers for effort, even with some of the worst kids you could imagine. You just have to strike lucky i guess, which isn't fair, but thats life i guess :| I'd like my to try and make any difference i could.... we'll see :wink:

[TransAm]

Well if ADHD had been about when I was young, there is a chance that I'd have been on something, given some of these doctors' approach to the problem.

The psychiatrist diagnosed that I was bored at school...they gave me harder work, and let me do more of what I enjoyed (drawing) when I had finished before the rest...problem solved.

I don't remember much of this as I was only about 6 at the time, just my parents have told me about it since.

I kind of slowed down a bit as I got older, so I guess some kids just develop faster than others.

On the topic of ritalin and similar drugs, read what the kids that are taking this shit have to say. They are describing feelings and emotions that I would associate with mild but regular doses amounts of (meth)amphetamine. :shock:

[ARMAN]

he dismissed the use of all drugs in mental health problems basically, i'm afraid that at least temporarily some of conditions require some form of medication to control the symptoms AFAIK. Really if we stopped all prescribing of drugs to people suffering mental health problems it would be chaos, sure there was a time when there were no drugs to treat such problems, but times are different now, people have different problems to deal with.


Yep, times are different now only Ritlin and so make those people unable to do anything, if you saw people on those drugs, they are drugged and thats all, I never saw anyone who was healed really :| They look even more like s*it after treatment even if they are crazy already.

...and stop editing your posts AL LOL cause I have to edit mine then too to react :lol:

[Anonymous]

...and stop editing your posts AL LOL cause I have to edit mine then too to react :lol:

LOL well i read them and go LOL that makes fuck all sense and edit :P

[MATTLAMBO85]

Tom Cruise is a total idiot. Why can't he be against world hunger or poverty? I can understand being against ritalin because respectable people think that it may have bad sideffects, but to say psycology is a fake science is just stupid. He has been brainwashed by the church of scientology to the point where he is wasting his talent and life to promote it's more idiotic teachings. He is not helping anybody by telling them not to seek psycatric help. What if a scitzofrenic attacked Tom Cruise with a kinfe because he heard voices and couldn't disobey them because he didn't take psychiatric medicine? Than Tom Cruise would be all for psychiatric drugs. You can't cure mental insanity with vitamins and exercise despite what any Scientologist will tell you . That is a proven fact. I respect Brad Pitt and Bono for trying to help poor people in africa, Tom should do that instead of railing against Pschology.

[ARMAN]

Crazy pople are crazy people, but how many normal people get in hands of psychs just cause they had some personal problems and they call it decease and give you drugs :shock: Every year there are hundrets(maybe thousands) NEW(:!:) deceases invented so they can sell more drugs :roll: I have a friend of mine and she was not feeiling well after devorse and her "normal" doctor prscribed her psych drugs :roll: :x He could prescribe her a vacation outside the town for a 2-3 weeks and it would do much better work for her than damn pills! :|

If you feel depressed - take a looong walk and manage yourself doing something that will take your full attention of the problem! You are a workoholic - take a damn rest, go on vacation far away from your work! There is NO need to take pills that would make you feel even worse and!

I met a guy once(he was theyr "patient") and he was wining all the time that he feel so desperate and that he dont know what to do and he is so unsure and crap like that - get your fuckin ass to work and you forget about that crap! Hard manual work for a while is an excelent cure for conditions like that cause you have no time to think about that bulls*it :mrgreen:


About poverty, I deeply think that poor people dont need so much money, of course they do some amount for food and basic things, but what they need is a knowlege. I am not talking about homeless-ass-bitches who have theyr body in a normal condition so they can work instead of drinking all day long and asking for money, I am talking about people in Africa and so. If you grow up between people who cannot read and have almost no knowlege about life and making money how can you learn from them and be any different? Knowlege is what they need the most, if they have it they can get out of poverty. Otherwise you can give them millions and they dissapear to nowere very fast cause they'll spend them on wrong direction.
Just my 5 bucks 8)

[FoxFour]

Serious depression, Arman is not like a case of the blues. You just can't get rid of it that easily. You just can't say, 'oh, I'll fight this and it will go away' Me and many other people have tried this, it just does not happen. In my case, Prozac saved my life. Been on it since 1992, I was a mess before that. The five years before that I call 'The Dead Years', because that's what it was like for me.
And now about Tom. He's a high-school drop-out and a serious megalomaniac. A person that I know served on the USS Enterprise aircraft carrier at one point. He talked to the veteran pilots that were on the ship when Cruise was on board filming for the movie 'Top Gun'. These guys even said that back then he was a stuck up snob.

[pharzo]

To suggest that depression is a not a serious condition that can be cured by "taking a walk" is irresponsible and stupid. Major Depressive Disorder is a condition I have some experience with...and i can assure you it is a illness like any other. As foxfour mentioned above me, drugs can and do alleviate the symptoms of depression. It can be a hard thing to understand for someone who has not studied or experienced it... but to suggest that depression may be cured by having a real good time on vacation is probably as negligent of the problem as suggesting to millions of people that you are the only one who knows about psychiatry, and that "there is no such thing as a chemical imbalance" :roll:

[ARMAN]

To suggest that depression is a not a serious condition that can be cured by "taking a walk" is irresponsible and stupid

Ok, I think youre right, serios, I mean serios condition is something completely different imo. But. Does Prozac really cure it or it just push that condition away? Depression is a problem of the mind, mind condition, and how chemical stuff can "heal" mind? It can only have influence on the body, isnt that right? :hmm:
I also agree that I've never experinced some heavy heavy depressions, but how many people reach for pills when they have a small period of sandess? I think thousands of hundreds and that kind of depression is nothin but a bad mood.

[pharzo]

Well as i said drugs such as prozac do not "cure" the condition as such, but they do alleviate the symptoms. So a person is able to function normally, and not be at risk for suicide. The only real long term "cure" is actual therapy. But there is a correlation between abnormal levels of certain brain chemicals and depression, and this correlation exists for other conditions as well, reinforcing the idea that there is a physiological component to psychological disorders.

btw, i've too have never experienced depression, but i have studied it, and wrote a paper about it. But i will agree with you about people reaching too easily for drugs when sad....but then again depression is the psychogical disorder most likely to precede suicide, so in certain cases drug therapy should definitely be encouraged

[FoxFour]

I am sure that there are people or dostors that misuse these drugs, but in my case I was a little on the extreme side, first off, depression runs in my family, also, I experienced many years of depression that even my friends were concerned for my well-being.
Not getting into my personal history, but therapy I think would not have helped me at all. And Arman, it's OK in not knowing what severe depression is all about. I hope you or other people in Jabbasworld never have to experience it.

[abbor]

Any experience I have about depressions is watching Tony Sopranos for 5 seasons, and I don't know if I qualify as an expert.. :wink: But one thing is sure, mr. Cruise sounds like an ass! :roll: