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ferrari550
06-20-2005, 01:18 PM
http://www.autocarmagazine.com/news_article.asp?na_id=215601

What do you think? Think it will get the go ahead for production?

Z3uS
06-20-2005, 01:35 PM
hmmm... Im a Lambo fan but ill have to admit this car looks(at least of what i could see) quite ankward.

It doesnt "match" the other lambos...

Well, i guess im talking too much, its too soon to say something.

RC45
06-20-2005, 01:45 PM
hmmm... Im a Lambo fan but ill have to admit this car looks(at least of what i could see) quite ankward.

It doesnt "match" the other lambos...

Well, i guess im talking too much, its too soon to say something.

Neither did this... match other lambos of it's time.. ;)

http://www.lamborghiniregistry.com/Espada/GlassEspadab.jpg

Welcome back Espada.. :)

Toronto
06-20-2005, 01:47 PM
this or a 612?

RC45
06-20-2005, 01:58 PM
This - any day.

The 400i (Ferraris answer to the 4 seat super car of the day) was always bland compared to the Espada - and looks like Lamborghini have another stunning exciting winning design.

:)

ARMAN
06-20-2005, 02:46 PM
Nice! Shame only one pic available :?

loliea
06-20-2005, 04:52 PM
Why do they need to revive an old model? Can they create something new?

Anyway, that's still a good initiative. The 2+2 market is getting more and more crowded... (they say it's a 4 seater but guess they mean 2 adults + 2 kids)

TT
06-20-2005, 04:58 PM
Why do they need to revive an old model? Can they create something new? ..

Well, what about the Murcielago? Isn't it a revival of the Diablo wich was a revival of the Countach? :P

The Espada died and nothing else came right away because Lambo had some dark days too, but IMO now why not, the Espada was a brillant machine and I am curious about a modern interpretation ;)

SFDMALEX
06-20-2005, 05:27 PM
This - any day.

Yeah, only cause its a Ferrari lol,,,,,,god damn your predicatble,,,,we dont even have real specs on this yet but you already want it.... :lol:

loliea
06-20-2005, 06:10 PM
I guess that was a joke "Well, what about the Murcielago? Isn't it a revival of the Diablo wich was a revival of the Countach?" ... :wink:

TT
06-20-2005, 06:16 PM
LOL no, I just wanted to say it is kinda difficult to innovate these days because if you have a long history behind you, you probably already tested all the main ideas :D

loliea
06-20-2005, 06:26 PM
In fact I was talking about the design and the fact that the production of the Espada stoped couple of years ago (couple of 10 years ago even...).

Back from the dead... They also have a project of "new" Jalpa, correct? Huuu and what about the LM02... :lol:

TT
06-20-2005, 06:38 PM
Well afaik the next two big things are the 4 seater and a new SUV indeed, I know nothing about a new Jalpa, but isn't the Gallardo already a pretty good entry model?

loliea
06-20-2005, 06:55 PM
I never saw it that way, I always though of the Jalpa as a failed marketing strategy from Chrysler to sell more Lambo in US.

In fact thinking about it you're linka right, the Jalpa was the baby (little small baby) Countach as of the Gallardo is the baby Murci.

Lambo SUV, I missed that. LM02 Style :twisted: ?

TT
06-20-2005, 06:59 PM
Well, only some early sketches went around I think so far, and for sure there is nothing really in the work yet, not even full size models IMO. But definitely it would be cool for them to hit us with something as big as the original LM :)

a007apl
06-21-2005, 09:50 AM
http://img107.echo.cx/img107/1517/lamborghiniespada9ne9me.th.jpg (http://img107.echo.cx/my.php?image=lamborghiniespada9ne9me.jpg)

RC45
06-21-2005, 09:52 AM
I want that car :twisted:

saadie
06-21-2005, 10:07 AM
its allright .... i guess ......
i dont really expect anything hardcore from lamborghini anymore .....
its just gonna be a let down ....
they shouldnt have made the gallardo ... they should've made this first ....

|Nuno|
06-21-2005, 10:44 AM
I hope it won't look remotely close to those drawings or the Photoshop, because that looks like a damn hatch... Actually, it reminds me of the Z3 Coupe. :?

Shinigami
06-21-2005, 04:47 PM
Sketches too early to give an opinion. It'll probably end up looking fab tho'.

DeMoN
06-21-2005, 04:59 PM
Looking at those pics in post #2, it looks like a DB9 from above which means I LOVE IT. I dont think its possible, though, to beat the Murci design.

lev_p
06-22-2005, 03:12 AM
Judging by the sketches (and I've seen some sketches before), I can tell you only one thing: it will be beautiful :D Not sure if it will keep it resemblence to Espada, but personally - I don't mind.
It's about the time for Lamborghini to bring back a 4-seater, as an answer to Ferrari and now to Bentley as well.

mclaren_Gt
06-22-2005, 03:24 AM
nooooooo, no lambo dont make a mistake, is a horrible car, and lambo = 2 seats and agresive, you dont want a ferrari or lambo, looks like a grembling (i dunno the correct way to writhe that thing, lol),

a supercar isnt a family car, nooo, pls dont make that lambo =(

saadie
06-22-2005, 04:49 AM
th first onelooks like gallardo covered with carboard .... WTF did audi buy lamborghini 0X

RC45
06-22-2005, 08:28 AM
All you punk kids have abviously no idea of the broad variants of Lamborghinis that have been available over the last 40 years,... :P

The Espada looked good in the 1970's - it will looks good now. - so a modern variant wil look awesome :)

saadie
06-22-2005, 08:41 AM
All you punk kids have abviously no idea of the broad variants of Lamborghinis that have been available over the last 40 years,... :P
umm yeah .... but i dont see any variants where galardo fits in ;)
audi's first step .. make a stupid V10 car .. ruin the image .....

The Espada looked good in the 1970's - it will looks good now. - so a modern variant wil look awesome :)
just dont be soo sure abt it :wink:
second step ..... try to make an 2+2 .. that looks like crap ....

who knows whats next 8) :|

saadie
06-23-2005, 11:53 AM
but but .. gallardo isnt a true lambo .... and nor will be the new espada ...... im not saying tht a new espada wont be cool ... it will be cool .... but audi should've made a lambo variant first ... they shouldnt have made a V10 catagory .... they should've keep the lambos running and should've proved tht they can handle the heat .. but they are just sore loosers .lol .... hope yea get me ....

RC45
06-23-2005, 12:17 PM
What Audi should really do is embrace Lamborghini as their performance devision and place ALL their performance cars uder that wing - and reserve the Audi line for the luxury utilitarian cars.

As an example the next generation R6 should be a Lamborghini product - and the A6 be the Audi product.

This way there less danger of diluting BOTH performance stables.

So no need to then build a mid-engined Auid and take business away from their own division.

Anonymous
06-23-2005, 12:27 PM
What Audi should really do is embrace Lamborghini as their performance devision and place ALL their performance cars uder that wing - and reserve the Audi line for the luxury utilitarian cars.

As an example the next generation R6 should be a Lamborghini product - and the A6 be the Audi product.

This way there less danger of diluting BOTH performance stables.

So no need to then build a mid-engined Auid and take business away from their own division.

Well as far as mid engined audi's i agree, to me that kinda thing smacks of the sort of thing BMC/ rover would do :roll: Don't know about having audi's performance cars developed by lambo, iMO that would still devalue the marque.

RC45
06-23-2005, 12:35 PM
What Audi should really do is embrace Lamborghini as their performance devision and place ALL their performance cars uder that wing - and reserve the Audi line for the luxury utilitarian cars.

As an example the next generation R6 should be a Lamborghini product - and the A6 be the Audi product.

This way there less danger of diluting BOTH performance stables.

So no need to then build a mid-engined Auid and take business away from their own division.

Well as far as mid engined audi's i agree, to me that kinda thing smacks of the sort of thing BMC/ rover would do :roll: Don't know about having audi's performance cars developed by lambo, iMO that would still devalue the marque.

No - not developed by - actually merge the Audi performance division and Lambo inot one.

Because in all reality -0 the Lambo marque is not more, it is just a badge used by a german conglomerate :P

The financial muslce of Audi, the engineering attention to detail of Audi, the soul and passion of Lamborghini.

This way you cannot buy a single high performance Audi, and you would NEVER get a Lamborghini SUV. :D

But you would get a 600hp Lamborghini XXXXXX 4 door sedan (aka RS6... ;))

mcduck
06-23-2005, 02:09 PM
From Auto Motor Und Sport... :?

http://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/sixcms/media.php/23/espada_450.jpg

... and another pic I've found:

http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/picture_library/dir_35/car_portal_pic_17984.jpg

definitely kinda like an modernised version of the old espada

RC45
06-24-2005, 02:18 PM
What Audi should really do is embrace Lamborghini as their performance devision and place ALL their performance cars uder that wing - and reserve the Audi line for the luxury utilitarian cars.

As an example the next generation R6 should be a Lamborghini product - and the A6 be the Audi product.

This way there less danger of diluting BOTH performance stables.

So no need to then build a mid-engined Auid and take business away from their own division.


And just now when we where starting to get along you have to pull some stupid shit like this out of your hat...... :roll:

First of all Audis are more about racing than Lambo have ever been, Audi got more in their hat than only luxury cars and you know it...

These days its the engineers at Audi wich develop Lambos so there would not be a RS6 developed by Lambo for instance.... :wink:

And on Audi building mid engined cars....Audi where the first brand with mid engined grand prix cars so why shouldnt they be allowed to do it now.... :roll:

I do not think Lambo as a company will suffer from the Audi influence, Im pretty sure its the opposite...yes some will feel it takes something away from owning one, but alot more will buy it as it gets quallity, usability and reliability.......

You totally misunderstood my message.

I am not saying Audi only has luxury cars or Lambo only has performance cars (they do make trucks and tractors afterall)

What I am saying is to complete the merger and have all the luxury sedans/SUV's ect be undr the Audi name - and all performance cars (sedans, mids, fronts and rear) be under the lamborghini badge.

In this mucked up and confused automotive market place this kind of move would be nice.

Think of it - instead of going down to your boring plain-jane Audi delaership to buy your RS6 - you would be off to the Lambo dealership and sip lattes with Jabba while his Diablo was in for a service.. :P

This was the gist of my story - not to start an argument debate about who is the best engineer etc.. ;)

T-Bird
06-24-2005, 02:24 PM
but Audi's new dealership designs (supposedly going national) are much nicer than any of the Lambo dealers around here. I know Audi America has already split all the Audi/VW dealers apart (atleast around here)

Paco
07-08-2005, 06:08 PM
I would applaud such a car. I always liked the Esapda for it's style.

mindgam3
07-08-2005, 06:23 PM
All you punk kids have abviously no idea of the broad variants of Lamborghinis that have been available over the last 40 years,... :P

The Espada looked good in the 1970's - it will looks good now. - so a modern variant wil look awesome :)

It looked shit then and it looks shit now :P

Respect to the designers though, its clearly a modern version of the 70's model.

JiggaStyles09
07-08-2005, 09:37 PM
i am going to agree with brembo on this one. seeing the RS4 and RS6 variants under the lamborghini name would not sit right with me. its pretty much what was said about the sleeper feel of the S and RS modles, much like you get with M's and AMG's.

putting these cars under lamborgini either 2 things would have to happen, either the S and RS modles would have to be redesigned to look radical enough to be sold under lambo, giving up that sleeper appearance....or lambo would be taking regular looking 4 door saloons under their wing and that wouldnt look right being badged with a running bull on the front of it :wink:

corpse_grinder0
07-12-2005, 02:36 AM
that will be fun for the whole family

szumszer
07-12-2005, 11:37 AM
finally, something different from lamborghini for a change, i would love to see them make a true 4door sedan or revive the suv LM002

RC45
07-12-2005, 11:38 AM
that will be fun for the whole family

A nice refreshing first post.

Welcome aboard. ;)

stefanometa
07-12-2005, 12:02 PM
it just don't fits with the other models of lamborghini

corpse_grinder0
07-12-2005, 05:16 PM
that will be fun for the whole family

A nice refreshing first post.

Welcome aboard. ;)

wow, I have been apart of quit a few boards, but never once has anyone personally greeting me with a compliment. Thank you sir, and im glad to be aboard.

1zippo1
07-12-2005, 05:26 PM
The first picture that our Lambo Hunter posted looked pretty nice, but the others don't IMO... I fear our Belgian Style guru Luc Donkerwolke has gotten it wrong this time :?

IMO the Gallardo & Murciélago look superb. Modern without loosing touch with their background. But this 4-seater has much work to be done looking at those pics. We'll just have to wait and see

davide
07-12-2005, 05:39 PM
Lamborghini wants a piece of the cake...

but a 4 seater? Then need to do some better design than that.. looks.. a bit not do-able... Maybe I got a new favorite super-car when it's done? :)

so far RS6 is the one for me, lots of space and power. maybe this is my new shooting star?!

paskas
07-12-2005, 07:04 PM
It seems that someone from "inside" leaked that photos :p

rbbrneck
07-12-2005, 07:39 PM
Juat a little snippet of information on the name of the proposed 4-seater:

Lagartijo: Name of the 19th-century matador who spared the life of a bull, Murcielago.

Let's hope then that the guys at Lambo do justice to the name and come out with something that tames the Murcielago!!

Also check out the link on www.italiaspeed.com and see what the house of the raging bull is planning on bringing out in the next few years.

jenkF1
07-19-2005, 04:18 PM
it looks like an estate

pilone
07-20-2005, 06:01 PM
I hope never to see it in production...
Sorry but it's horrible!!

cooperluke
07-20-2005, 06:45 PM
This is not surely a Lambo

a007apl
08-07-2005, 08:17 PM
Hey guys, check lambo news :roll:

RC45
08-07-2005, 08:25 PM
Hey guys, check lambo news :roll:

Give us a link... :roll: ;) :P

a007apl
08-07-2005, 09:57 PM
no, lambo news have :wink:
Think, If you add one new about your cars you 'll add here or in your forum?
Here I'll add news about anothers cars.
American cars, Ferraris, Porsches and Lamborghinis have the proper thread :wink:

RC45
08-07-2005, 10:44 PM
no, lambo news have :wink:
Think, If you add one new about your cars you 'll add here or in your forum?
Here I'll add news about anothers cars.
American cars, Ferraris, Porsches and Lamborghinis have the proper thread :wink:

Well - how about a link to the thread in the Lambo section... ;)

a007apl
08-07-2005, 10:51 PM
Enter in Lambo News and you'll see.:wink:
Case closed 8)

RC45
08-08-2005, 01:08 AM
Enter in Lambo News and you'll see.:wink:
Case closed 8)

Nah - too much trouble.. ;) If you posted a link here to Lambo News we would head over... :D

JaguarEtype
08-08-2005, 03:18 AM
I thought most people hated the 2+2 idea because nobody can get in the rear seats exept for children... which is a bit odd considering most people who have kids usually sell the sports car (as a single child costs approximately US$200k)
unless you really want to work your nuts off to be one of those "cool hip dads" :lol: :lol:
and even if you kept the 2+2 would you REALLY want, (now think very carefully), 2 rug rats in the back of your Lambo... HELL NO
my brother when he was only a few years old took a nikko pen (perminant ink) to the leather upholstery of my dads friends brand new Range Rover... (luckily they did find a chemical/solvent that didnt trash leather and removed all the ink) i should probably find the brand name of that.. it'll definately come in handy for someone
however there are those that are super rich and dont worry too much about the whole working long and hard hours, but they'd probably get an S class merc to cart 4 people around.. its much more practical (has four doors) and is much more comfortable for the people in the back.

espen
08-08-2005, 07:47 AM
I had a ride in a light blue Espada a few years ago and I loved it. Welcome back Espada - even though this time around I suppose much of the charm will be lost and replaced by german perfection. But still... ever driven an S8 hard? :mrgreen:

The original Espada is a wonderful car, particularly the late 400 GTEs. Compared to what the competition was putting out at the time, it must have been sensational - roomy, airy interior, nice compliant ride despite decent handling - and a pretty strong revvy V12 howling through six double Weber DOCEs...

Just starting it is an occation... turn on the ignition, watch the instruments jump and hear the fuel pumps start up. A couple of pumps on the accelerator to prime the carbs, and you can smell high octane inside the cabin. Turn the key and there is that distinctive high speed V12 starter, a good couple of seconds later the V12 explodes into a grumpy bassy idle that makes my neck hairs rise. A couple of good blips and i settles on an uneven, busy idle just asking to get going. If I had one I'd fire it up every morning just for the sound :mrgreen: