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Ronanderson
06-15-2005, 04:53 AM
I saw this news todaty at the owners site of ferrari. This is what they say about the new car.

New FXX to turn client-collectors into genuine Ferrari Test Drivers

Ferrari has developed a truly innovative technical collaboration programme around the FXX prototype aimed at its most dedicated and passionate Clients.

The FXX is the most advanced GT ever created at Maranello and its mission is to involve our most valued Clients as genuine Prancing Horse Test Drivers in their own right.

The wealth of data and experience gathered in the course of this very special programme will be exceptionally important.

In fact, the feedback from these highly skilled, non-professional Client Test Drivers will be compared and supplemented with suggestions from Michael Schumacher, Rubens Barrichello and Ferrari’s professional in-house Test Drivers.

Every Client who signs up for the FXX project by purchasing one of the estimated 20 or so cars being built, will actually be joining Team Ferrari, and will have his driving experiences at the wheel of this new car monitored directly by the Prancing Horse’s technicians and specialists.

The FXX is the fruit of Ferrari’s know-how in building special limited-series sports cars combined with, of course, its racing experience. It will provide the basic framework on which the specifics of future extreme models will be worked out. The exceptionally powerful FXX delivers absolutely blistering performance on all fronts.

The FXX has not been homologated for road use and thus will not be a competition model. It will be used exclusively on the track as part of a specific ongoing research and development programme featuring this first ever group of Client Test Drivers.

The FXX is powered by an imposing 6,262 cc V12 engine that can punch out over 800 hp at 8,500 rpm.

Its gearbox is the result of the transfer of F1 strategies, delivering gear change times of under 100 ms. This is almost as fast as the F1 single-seaters, themselves the absolute pinnacle of current technological achievement.

The FXX’s aerodynamic design is particularly innovative too as it has resulted in a shape that produces 40% higher downforce than ever achieved before. It is also possible to adjust the FXX’s mobile spoiler configuration to suit the specific circuit.

Ferrari’s partnership with Bridgestone has resulted in the development of a specific 19” slick tyre for this particular model. Likewise Brembo has created a special brake cooling and pad system for the FXX’s extra large Composite Ceramic Material disc brakes.

The Client Test Drivers will also be able to share their unique track experience with a passenger – in fact a second seat is also available.

What really sets the FXX apart, however, is the sophisticated telemetry system which will monitor and give feedback on 39 different vehicle dynamics parameters in real time. The system is also able to record other data as demanded by specific circumstances.

The information gathered will then be analysed by the Ferrari technicians working on the programme and discussed with the individual Client Drivers to ensure that the car is kept constantly updated.

The FXX package also includes participation in a series of track events to be organised by Ferrari on various international-level circuits over the coming two years. On these occasions, an official team of technicians will be on hand to provide any assistance and support required by the Client Test Driver.

In addition to these truly unique official events, Clients will also be able to take their cars out on the track independently during private sessions. Clients wishing to leave their car at Maranello will be glad to know that the vehicles will be transported directly by Ferrari to the various European circuits for the various scheduled events.

Given the car’s exceptional performance and the unique nature of the package, delivery of each FXX will also include an ad hoc driving course. The instructors will, of course, be professional drivers and the courses will take place at the Fiorano Circuit where Ferrari does its most important F1 single-seater testing.

After the seat and the pedals have been individually tailored to each driver, there will be a traditional “shakedown” followed by a training session to introduce the Client Test Drivers to test driving methodologies.

After a careful client order selection process, the first FXXs will be delivered by the end of this year. The initial testing of the definitive car will be taking place over the coming days at Fiorano.

The FXX and the relative package cost a total of 1.5 million euro (excluding taxes). Applications to join the programme are being evaluated by a special in-house committee.

here ar the pictures
http://img293.echo.cx/img293/849/ferrarifxx0015dx.th.jpg (http://img293.echo.cx/my.php?image=ferrarifxx0015dx.jpg) http://img293.echo.cx/img293/9356/ferrarifxx0025df.th.jpg (http://img293.echo.cx/my.php?image=ferrarifxx0025df.jpg) http://img293.echo.cx/img293/55/ferrarifxx0035fs.th.jpg (http://img293.echo.cx/my.php?image=ferrarifxx0035fs.jpg) http://img293.echo.cx/img293/274/ferrarifxx0043mp.th.jpg (http://img293.echo.cx/my.php?image=ferrarifxx0043mp.jpg)

adamwich
06-15-2005, 04:58 AM
Thanks a lot for the information and the pictures!!

MBDriver
06-15-2005, 05:09 AM
wow did I just die and go to heaven? Someone wake me up. :P

kjekki
06-15-2005, 05:13 AM
wow, interresting..
it doesn't look that good though :(
the frony looks ok, but yhe back, and that HIDEOUS spoiler is crap, but i guess the looks did not have a high priority.
I'm sure it goes like stink :twisted:

black_magician
06-15-2005, 05:19 AM
:mrgreen: :mrgreen: YES!!

I was waiting to see what Ferrari would do with the Enzo!

thats one hell of a first post!
AWesome!!

MBDriver
06-15-2005, 05:20 AM
I wonder who Ferrari will choose to be the test clients.

Evo
06-15-2005, 05:21 AM
My God.. 1.5 Million Euro. :shock: :shock: :shock: .. If it was 1.4 Million Euro I would have got one. :mrgreen: ( I wish )

kjekki, I am with you on this it looks really bad but It's more function than looks.. It's more aerodynamic..

TT
06-15-2005, 05:36 AM
Holy fuck!! Finally official pics :shock: :love:

saadie
06-15-2005, 05:39 AM
shit .. i love htis thing .... i hope its the F60 ... the real one .... it looks soo soo mmuch better then any other ferrari .. except fer F40 offcorse ..
soo i guess finally a true supercar is born after the diablo 8) 8)

TT
06-15-2005, 05:47 AM
You hope it is the F60? This is the Enzo FXX, a racer version that will be used for further developement..

riconijhof
06-15-2005, 05:57 AM
NOOOO NOT ZONDA HEADLIGHTS :o :slap:
Though, it's ok... The position of the exhaust pipes really made me laugh. :lol:

Fleischmann
06-15-2005, 05:59 AM
OH GOD NO!! That has to be the most hidesous thing ever!! it's revolting. The exhaustpipes are in the place of the rearlights. A very sad day :( :( :(

astonmartinandy
06-15-2005, 06:10 AM
Well beauty is in the eye of the beholder, but I really think that looks like a hideous Maserati/Ferrari Cut 'n Shut.. Looks aside, should be an absolute monster :twisted:

nejcdolinsek
06-15-2005, 06:18 AM
Holy shit! This news surprised me! :D

800 hp... damn! I hope they did some weight reductions....

I don't like the styling too much, but hell, its for racing, not for posing :wink:

|Nuno|
06-15-2005, 06:19 AM
Holy shit, what a nice way to wake up!! :shock:


Thanks a lot for the pics and info, dude! :D

Kinxy
06-15-2005, 06:19 AM
me 2, it hurts me to say, but it actually looks fucked up. Perhaps having it in BLACK wont highlight the ugliness that much, but I agree, that this thing will go like NOTHING we have ever seen. This is surely the nail in the coffin for the mclaren f1 lm\gtr, and all other high rollers. Ferrari is back where it belongs, alone at the top

yg60m
06-15-2005, 06:36 AM
Autocar made an article about this car but, of course, they told that it was the future Enzo :lol:

mv
06-15-2005, 07:49 AM
800 hp... damn! I hope they did some weight reductions....


It is said to weigh around 950kg. :wink: No wonder, since there are basically no emissions/safety regulations to pass as it is not a road legal car.

SPEEDKILLAR
06-15-2005, 08:33 AM
A track MONSTER, damn, this thing will fly :shock:

sikx5
06-15-2005, 08:53 AM
Far out....amazing looking machine!!

Im not sure how the the special 19" bridgestone slicks will live up :lol: :lol:

But What a package, only 20 or so, god damn, with 800hp!! insane....for the most dedicated clients too...wonder if amenace father will get one??

I love it!

nejcdolinsek
06-15-2005, 09:43 AM
800 hp... damn! I hope they did some weight reductions....


It is said to weigh around 950kg. :wink: No wonder, since there are basically no emissions/safety regulations to pass as it is not a road legal car.

Where did you get that info :?:

mv
06-15-2005, 11:00 AM
800 hp... damn! I hope they did some weight reductions....


It is said to weigh around 950kg. :wink: No wonder, since there are basically no emissions/safety regulations to pass as it is not a road legal car.

Where did you get that info :?:

The fact it would have 800+hp with around 950kg plus that you might get it with one seat only and the price as well appeared roughly a month ago on various discussion forums, it was from a very good source - ferrari owners who have their cars serviced at Michelloto (not sure about spelling) in Padova, Italy, a garage that is said to be involved in the development of the FXX.

ViperASR
06-15-2005, 11:19 AM
It says that it is not going to be used to race, right? so that means that we will only see it in use at track days, and never at a sanctioned event. Thats a shame, hopefully it doesnt end up like the G50 GT and only have a handful made....

ferrari550
06-15-2005, 11:33 AM
WOW, was not expecting to see this. The specs are quite amazing and i am sure it will fly around a track, not sure about the looks but who cares.

I would like to see Top Gear test this!!

evoWalo
06-15-2005, 11:36 AM
http://autoweek.com/news.cms?newsId=102590

TT
06-15-2005, 12:03 PM
First HR pics, must they been here?

http://img45.echo.cx/img45/5202/ferrarifxxenzogt3iu.th.jpg (http://img45.echo.cx/my.php?image=ferrarifxxenzogt3iu.jpg) http://img45.echo.cx/img45/6429/ferrarifxxenzogt27rn.th.jpg (http://img45.echo.cx/my.php?image=ferrarifxxenzogt27rn.jpg) http://img45.echo.cx/img45/528/ferrarifxxenzogt39nz.th.jpg (http://img45.echo.cx/my.php?image=ferrarifxxenzogt39nz.jpg)

budagboy2
06-15-2005, 12:08 PM
Thats crazyyyy...to bad it looks like crap, but it will certainly fly around a track

Max Power
06-15-2005, 12:18 PM
looks like a frog

Kinxy
06-15-2005, 12:25 PM
the rear end reminds of an F40 , which is beatufil in its own way, but NOT on an ENZO, they should have kept the lines clean, like the wings on the f50 and f40, anyway, ferrari fanatics will buy these cars at any price, no question, just too bad SO much beauty had to be sacrifised :(

mv
06-15-2005, 12:28 PM
Thats crazyyyy...to bad it looks like crap, but it will certainly fly around a track

What about your dad, Mike ? Has he put deposit already ? :)

redbaron
06-15-2005, 12:32 PM
I.M.O it doesn't look that awful, just like to see it in real for a final verdict


I wonder who Ferrari will choose to be the test clients.


I think the guys who race (old) Ferrari racing cars and have huge collections will be the clients.

DeMoN
06-15-2005, 12:43 PM
I get an error msg by imageshack, can someone host these on another location?

http://img92.echo.cx/img92/7441/fxx01lores7ik.jpg

ZfrkS62
06-15-2005, 12:50 PM
:faint: damn beautiful profile. even the 3/4 front shot is gorgeous :love:

5vz-fe
06-15-2005, 12:56 PM
Thats crazyyyy...to bad it looks like crap, but it will certainly fly around a track

What about your dad, Mike ? Has he put deposit already ? :)

I bet Frank (the guy featured in 5th gear) already did :lol:

Note: There's no side mirrors or any view from the rear window. All those is solved by using a top fin mounted camera. That is not too good for racing is it?

SL55 AMG
06-15-2005, 02:51 PM
Wow what a car, I'd love to know how much faster this thing is over a stock enzo :wink: Its a shame they changed the headlamps to those wierd looking Zonda looking ones they dont look right on this car. Other than that and the gaudy high polished/chrome wheels i think it is great, too bad very few will ever see one and fewer own one.

mayer
06-15-2005, 02:56 PM
A bit outlandish and weird, but I like it much more than the MCC.

bmagni
06-15-2005, 03:53 PM
You hope it is the F60? This is the Enzo FXX, a racer version that will be used for further developement..

in the FXX, the XX can act as a variable, so that it will be the F60 later on, dont u think so ?
BTW, cant see the pics...

SFDMALEX
06-15-2005, 04:01 PM
Why is everybody hating on the looks? Its supposed to be the fastest thing around, who cares how it looks? Its sure funky looking but its not bad..

RC45
06-15-2005, 04:10 PM
Someone repost thumbnails - Imageshack doesn't like our bandwidth consumpiton ;)

TT
06-15-2005, 04:20 PM
Someone repost thumbnails - Imageshack doesn't like our bandwidth consumpiton ;)

First post edited ;)

Blip
06-15-2005, 04:51 PM
It looks like a ricer's Enzo, but who cares. It's a track car after all.

and I don't think the 800+ V12 will sound too bad :drool:

TT
06-15-2005, 05:00 PM
It is not an Enzo dani but a FXX, and IMO it's not an Enzo converted but produced from scratch. But not sure we can say there are 420 Enzo. 400 Ferrari Enzo and 20 Ferrari FXX ;)

nurbrun
06-15-2005, 05:08 PM
where are the rear lights. all i see is Exaust pipes :? .

will this be street legal?

SPEEDKILLAR
06-15-2005, 05:11 PM
where are the rear lights. all i see is Exaust pipes :? .

will this be street legal?

Read the posts dude :?


N
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RC45
06-15-2005, 05:30 PM
^^^ and the buyers won't even drive them - not that they can... wasnt F50GT crashed the day it was retruned after a 2 year layoff after being crashed.. :)

These cars are now far past the abilities of mere mortals.

And even at a track day, such a car is more likely to hurt the average rich hobbyist than anything else.

Outageously nice car - but may as well be a scale model - they are just for collecting anyway... ;)

BTW - what a first post on JW for RonAnderson..... :)

Nice... if only every one can announce there arrival with a post like this...

TT
06-15-2005, 05:34 PM
They just find a way to have 20 free test drivers. Even better, 20 test drivers that will actually pay Ferrari instead of the other way around :D

|Nuno|
06-15-2005, 05:39 PM
Ok... I see the point :wink: but IMO, if they wanted to produce a model from zero... they have already done the Maser MCC, which is more or less the same than this Enzo FXX.

I think they have been really smart in Maranello... Developing a car like this is a really expensive thing nowadays with lots of electronics, the wind tunnel, science fiction compounds... so let's sell 20 prototypes for 1'5 millions each... and then we'll have enough money to develop the next F60...

These "client test drivers" is just bullshit. Bertolini, Badoer, Gene, Schumacher, Rubens... they will offer real fedback to the engineers, way better than the possible information than a rich 50 year-old businessman can offer IMO.

Yep, you got it. :wink:

One thing though... This car wasn't developed from scratch. Far from it. It's just a conversion really... But I don't think it's just for money. It will be a good way to make research for the next Supercar without spending money - in fact, they'll make money. Smart move if you ask me.

Of course that, as you said it, the buyers won't have anything to do with the feedback provided by the FXX, that's just to make them feel "bigger", but it's nevertheless a good way to try new ideas. Free R&D, I'd call it.


All this aside, I love the damn thing. It's just brutal... :twisted:

Can't wait for a video! :D

DeMoN
06-15-2005, 05:40 PM
Now I can see them pics and WOW that looks mean! I see some Pagain Zonda in it. Great car! Wonder how it sounds.

TT
06-15-2005, 05:42 PM
Ok... I see the point :wink: but IMO, if they wanted to produce a model from zero... they have already done the Maser MCC, which is more or less the same than this Enzo FXX.

I think they have been really smart in Maranello... Developing a car like this is a really expensive thing nowadays with lots of electronics, the wind tunnel, science fiction compounds... so let's sell 20 prototypes for 1'5 millions each... and then we'll have enough money to develop the next F60...

These "client test drivers" is just bullshit. Bertolini, Badoer, Gene, Schumacher, Rubens... they will offer real fedback to the engineers, way better than the possible information than a rich 50 year-old businessman can offer IMO.

Yep, you got it. :wink:

One thing though... This car wasn't developed from scratch. Far from it. It's just a conversion really... But I don't think it's just for money. It will be a good way to make research for the next Supercar without spending money - in fact, they'll make money. Smart move if you ask me.

Of course that, as you said it, the buyers won't have anything to do with the feedback provided by the FXX, that's just to make them feel "bigger", but it's nevertheless a good way to try new ideas. Free R&D, I'd call it.


All this aside, I love the damn thing. It's just brutal... :twisted:

Can't wait for a video! :D

Actually when I said "from scratch", I wanted to say they didn't take some roadgoing Enzos and modify them in some FFX. Of course they start with the same base, but at a certain point of the production line, the Enzo takes left, the FFX right ;)

|Nuno|
06-15-2005, 05:51 PM
Ok... I see the point :wink: but IMO, if they wanted to produce a model from zero... they have already done the Maser MCC, which is more or less the same than this Enzo FXX.

I think they have been really smart in Maranello... Developing a car like this is a really expensive thing nowadays with lots of electronics, the wind tunnel, science fiction compounds... so let's sell 20 prototypes for 1'5 millions each... and then we'll have enough money to develop the next F60...

These "client test drivers" is just bullshit. Bertolini, Badoer, Gene, Schumacher, Rubens... they will offer real fedback to the engineers, way better than the possible information than a rich 50 year-old businessman can offer IMO.

Yep, you got it. :wink:

One thing though... This car wasn't developed from scratch. Far from it. It's just a conversion really... But I don't think it's just for money. It will be a good way to make research for the next Supercar without spending money - in fact, they'll make money. Smart move if you ask me.

Of course that, as you said it, the buyers won't have anything to do with the feedback provided by the FXX, that's just to make them feel "bigger", but it's nevertheless a good way to try new ideas. Free R&D, I'd call it.


All this aside, I love the damn thing. It's just brutal... :twisted:

Can't wait for a video! :D

Actually when I said "from scratch", I wanted to say they didn't take some roadgoing Enzos and modify them in some FFX. Of course they start with the same base, but at a certain point of the production line, the Enzo takes left, the FFX right ;)

I was actually talking to dani, but I understand what you're saying (and you're correct). :D

I was just pointing out that, exacly. They're not "all new", but not "old" as well.

mv
06-15-2005, 06:12 PM
You hope it is the F60? This is the Enzo FXX, a racer version that will be used for further developement..

in the FXX, the XX can act as a variable, so that it will be the F60 later on, dont u think so ?
BTW, cant see the pics...

You are partly right since the knowledge gained by the testing of this beast will be exploited in the F60's development.

TT
06-15-2005, 06:18 PM
Yeah ok, even if the knowldge gained with the FXX will go in the future Ferrari supercar, the FXX is still the FXX :D also the 288 GTO Evoluzione was used to develop the upcoming F40 but it was "just" a 288 GTO Evoluzione and not an F40 :D

RC45
06-15-2005, 06:19 PM
Maybe the Romans are trying to tell us this the Ferrar 20.. ;)

If they want it to act a place holder, they better pay Microsoft some royalties :P -- and on that note, you sure you want to have this super-Ferrari thought of as just another bandwagon named "X" product? ;)

mv
06-15-2005, 07:19 PM
Yeah ok, even if the knowldge gained with the FXX will go in the future Ferrari supercar, the FXX is still the FXX :D also the 288 GTO Evoluzione was used to develop the upcoming F40 but it was "just" a 288 GTO Evoluzione and not an F40 :D

Yeah, that's for sure. I just meant they were closely connected (hence "partly" right - not the best choice of words I reckon :) ).

bmagni
06-16-2005, 12:35 AM
the looks arent that bad, the white things make it look not so good...

bmagni
06-16-2005, 01:34 AM
You hope it is the F60? This is the Enzo FXX, a racer version that will be used for further developement..

in the FXX, the XX can act as a variable, so that it will be the F60 later on, dont u think so ?
BTW, cant see the pics...

You are partly right since the knowledge gained by the testing of this beast will be exploited in the F60's development.

thats what i meant, this is a prototype, sold to this clients that are gonna help develop future cars, as tt says this is just the FXX, but later on, starting from here and with some changes, it can turn into F60,.

saadie
06-16-2005, 01:41 AM
yeah ... thats exactly what i meant ....... but FXX would look and sood cool .. lol
anyways ... lets wait and see .... i just hope they the lights .. they are ugl and non-aerodynamic ... just might kill 1 km/h :) ...

gobs3z
06-16-2005, 04:25 AM
The XX's in FXX could be the experimental symbols for the next supercar just buy looking at how they name aircraft, but beside that have you ever seen brakes fill a wheel like that before, they look like they are at least 16" rotors which is utterly insane IMO, i dunno why no one has mentioned it.

EnzoLover
06-16-2005, 05:02 PM
Very strange car ....

At first sight is very anormal .... but fast !!! :D

sentra_dude
06-16-2005, 07:23 PM
I did a little bit of work to the FXX in PS, because, IMO, the wheels Ferrari choose are not suited for the purpose of the car at all, and that massive white stripe ruins the lines of the car.

http://img34.echo.cx/img34/3259/ferrarifxxallred7wf.th.jpg (http://img34.echo.cx/my.php?image=ferrarifxxallred7wf.jpg)

I think it looks much better with all black racing-style wheels.

What do you guys think?

elitemrburns
06-16-2005, 07:35 PM
http://www.fast-autos.net/ferrari/fxx4.jpg

kinda like it as is, the white stripes set it apart sort of like on some of the 360 CSs (IMO of corse) :D as for the rims you might be on to something, great ps work btw

|Nuno|
06-16-2005, 07:47 PM
I did a little bit of work to the FXX in PS, because, IMO, the wheels Ferrari choose are not suited for the purpose of the car at all, and that massive white stripe ruins the lines of the car.

http://img34.echo.cx/img34/3259/ferrarifxxallred7wf.th.jpg (http://img34.echo.cx/my.php?image=ferrarifxxallred7wf.jpg)

I think it looks much better with all black racing-style wheels.

What do you guys think?

Nice job man, I really dig the rims!

SilviaEvo
06-16-2005, 09:15 PM
i love black wheels so black wheels on this baby would be AWESOME! i like the loook but its not brilliant. well brains over beauty they say.

Toronto
06-16-2005, 09:42 PM
where did they get the enzo's bodies? and engines they just made more @ a drop of a hat? so much for the ONLY 399.... :roll:

anyways, don't like the name
I would still rather have that new zonda :D

RC45
06-16-2005, 09:54 PM
where did they get the enzo's bodies?

You're not serious are you?

You do know that when you produce a "production car" you are obligated to keep on hand a supply of spares etc - so just to be clear, even when you only produce X number, you have replacement parts.

Now - these parts might not be composite chassis tubs hanging all over the walls in a warehouse, but that still doens't prevent the facility from just simply producing more parts.

Afterall - if a current Enzo owner demands a certain component be serviced, the factory would anyway be obligated to either supply one - or make one to honour rhe warranty ;)



and engines they just made more @ a drop of a hat?

In short - yes - it's ther freaking product, they can make 1,000,000 more if they want - however, this is a derivative so it's not even a valid argument.. :)


so much for the ONLY 399.... :roll:

Still only 399 (less the smashed ones)

sentra_dude
06-17-2005, 12:30 AM
Thanks for the compliments :D...maybe some owners will put on more suitable rims once they 'take delievery'. :P

saadie
06-17-2005, 12:48 AM
so much for the ONLY 399.... :roll:

Still only 399 (less the smashed ones)
+1 that they made to raise the tsunami victims funds ;) ....

@ sentra_dude ...... tht looks sooo much better the white stripes kills the looks ..
btw those rims are imo perfect for GT cars ... you'll find the same rims on Diablo GT F40 F50 Macca etc etc 8) 8)

PATo355
06-17-2005, 02:18 AM
Look in the back at the middle , that yellow shit , it seems like it turns on just like an f1 car with a machine ... crazy shit !

BACR
06-17-2005, 07:13 AM
It is only for development really, and these wealthy clients help fund it! They did not intend for it to look beutiful its just form folowing function.

zondaland
06-17-2005, 07:25 AM
As far as Enzo engines they are using something very close in the Maserati MC12 aren't they? That would mean that with very little effort they could convert a couple to Enzo spec for a bit of a tweak.

As to building extra cars, in this volume I can't imagine that they would have a great difficulty. They would still have all the moulds and with the amount of carbon fibre they must produce daily I can't imagine that they would have much difficulty producing the necessary materials.

szumszer
06-17-2005, 04:55 PM
looks ok, but the real pleasure must be not looking at it, but having a chance to drive it, 800 hp, with factory support and training, this is such a sweet deal, yes it is a lot of money, but if you got it, then it is worth every penny, if this was a road car, it would be the fastest road car available, but it is not, it is the best track day car you can get, aside from getting a real lm winner like audi or maybe an f1 car, this is king of the hill

SFDMALEX
06-17-2005, 05:03 PM
They did not intend for it to look beutiful its just form folowing function.

Let me disagree here... if they wanted a functional car instead of a "beautiful"... they would have sold this:

http://img170.echo.cx/img170/5634/superenzo5pj.th.jpg (http://img170.echo.cx/my.php?image=superenzo5pj.jpg)

... which IMO looks way better than this FXX.

Not really mate, the wing structure is tottaly different on the FXX, I bet the pic you posted is just an engine suspension testing chassi,,,looks way different,,,,,,,,,,thats what I think at least :|

leo_26782
06-18-2005, 06:38 AM
Talking about differences, how long will the engine last, until you have to go for a new one?

CMonakar
06-19-2005, 03:09 AM
What a horrible looking car. I can't believe they have the nerve to charge that much money for what is basically a warmed over Enzo. The Enzo is over priced to begin with. If Porsche can sell the CGT for hundreds of thousands at AT A PROFIT, why can't ferrari? Naturally it's being sold by invite only. I can imagine the decision making process -who are the 20 most indiscriminate customers we have ??;) You know, the guys that pay $540 for a walmart fire extinguisher with a Ferrari sticker on it.

SFDMALEX
06-19-2005, 09:41 AM
What a horrible looking car. I can't believe they have the nerve to charge that much money for what is basically a warmed over Enzo. The Enzo is over priced to begin with. If Porsche can sell the CGT for hundreds of thousands at AT A PROFIT, why can't ferrari? Naturally it's being sold by invite only. I can imagine the decision making process -who are the 20 most indiscriminate customers we have ??;) You know, the guys that pay $540 for a walmart fire extinguisher with a Ferrari sticker on it.

That has to be the worst post in this whole thread.

|Nuno|
06-19-2005, 10:15 AM
What a horrible looking car. I can't believe they have the nerve to charge that much money for what is basically a warmed over Enzo. The Enzo is over priced to begin with. If Porsche can sell the CGT for hundreds of thousands at AT A PROFIT, why can't ferrari? Naturally it's being sold by invite only. I can imagine the decision making process -who are the 20 most indiscriminate customers we have ??;) You know, the guys that pay $540 for a walmart fire extinguisher with a Ferrari sticker on it.

That has to be the worst post in this whole thread.

Word.

And ccarlisi, just for your information, Porsche has recently announced that they'll make only around 1250 Carrera GT's, instead of the initally proclaimed 1500, because of the tough market situation. :wink: Doubt they'll make much profit (if any).

CMonakar
06-19-2005, 10:11 PM
Why is everybody hating on the looks? Its supposed to be the fastest thing around, who cares how it looks? Its sure funky looking but its not bad..

I doubt it's even close to the fastest thing on a race track. It's not road legal, so don't bother comparing it to road cars. If you think that looks even ok, you have no taste.
That has to be the worst post in this whole thread. I think you just took that honor.

graywolf624
06-19-2005, 10:17 PM
It still has its place. Id love to have a race car that is supported and kept running by a manufacturer. Sorta like a challenge car that you can use for any series and the company does the maintenance.

is64fun
06-20-2005, 10:39 AM
enzo lights are much much better than these ugly things.

kjekki
06-20-2005, 02:39 PM
wow! nice PS sentradude..
really looks like a racer now :D

bmagni
06-20-2005, 07:28 PM
I doubt it's even close to the fastest thing on a race track. It's not road legal, so don't bother comparing it to road cars.

i think comparing it to road cars will come, but what will be intresting is what will come as the R&D that comes from this car, so we just have to wait and see, still the Enzo kicks mayor ass, mostly to every single supercar.

If you think that looks even ok, you have no taste
i guess were all free to like and dislike whatever we want, and i bet you more and more people will start liking it in a while. And remember its JUST A CONCEPT, so most of the looks wont make it to the final product. Why bitch so much about it ?

SFDMALEX
06-20-2005, 08:37 PM
Why is everybody hating on the looks? Its supposed to be the fastest thing around, who cares how it looks? Its sure funky looking but its not bad..

I doubt it's even close to the fastest thing on a race track. It's not road legal, so don't bother comparing it to road cars. If you think that looks even ok, you have no taste.
That has to be the worst post in this whole thread. I think you just took that honor.

What a horrible looking car. I can't believe they have the nerve to charge that much money for what is basically a warmed over Enzo. The Enzo is over priced to begin with. If Porsche can sell the CGT for hundreds of thousands at AT A PROFIT, why can't ferrari? Naturally it's being sold by invite only. I can imagine the decision making process -who are the 20 most indiscriminate customers we have ?? You know, the guys that pay $540 for a walmart fire extinguisher with a Ferrari sticker on it.

Here we go:

I never said the car is good looking, the car looks like it does because thats how the wind tunell shaped it. Its purpose is to basicly be a race car, race cars have a purpose to go fast, no one gives a shit what a race car looks like because most of the time they dont look all that great with big wings, huge air intakes etc, thats why people love the new Aston so much, because its a gorgeous race car, a rarity.

I have no taste? I was born with taste buddy. :wink:

Who are you to put a price on the Enzo? Its clearly selling for twice as much as the factory sticker price, and this is people making it cost that much, not the factory, so you over priced argument makes no sense. Its a highly limited production car from the most famous marque in the world and its one of the fastest things around, over priced my ass. THe Macca was overpriced.


How is it a warmed over Enzo? Uses basic enzo chassis, FYI all auto makers do that, they use a lot of basic parts for different models of their cars. Hence you can find the Vette V8 in the CTS etc...

Do you know what a 575GTC costs from factory? I guess not. Find out and then tell me if the FXX is over priced. It costs a mill just to get a basic 575 with a spare engine, here your getting something much faster, and much more exculsive for less the double the price.


Your post was just a load of hate, only valid comment there was that you didnt like the looks, all the rest was hatefull nonsense. :D So keep the honours.

SilviaEvo
06-20-2005, 10:15 PM
i must agree with SFDMALEX. the Enzo is a beautiful car that is apparently hold its value increasingly well. it is one of the most desired cars in the world and tehy have jsut improved it by a lot this car is not street legal for a reason as SFD said. it is a racecar.

Ill cavalo rampante
06-24-2005, 06:24 PM
wow there is so much formule one in this thing it has to be the best supercar ever :D

bmagni
06-24-2005, 06:29 PM
wow there is so much formule one in this thing it has to be the best supercar ever :D

its just a concept, read dude, its not even road legal, its for development of new cars, one of those might the become the greatest supercar ever

Evil-ution
06-26-2005, 12:07 PM
ferrari just want to make more money from the engine they spent years building, so they've threw it in a car and called it the Enzo, then they used it again in the MC12 and now they made somthing that looks so horribol and called it the fxx.. omg!

Evil-ution
06-26-2005, 12:12 PM
What a horrible looking car. I can't believe they have the nerve to charge that much money for what is basically a warmed over Enzo. The Enzo is over priced to begin with. If Porsche can sell the CGT for hundreds of thousands at AT A PROFIT, why can't ferrari? Naturally it's being sold by invite only. I can imagine the decision making process -who are the 20 most indiscriminate customers we have ??;) You know, the guys that pay $540 for a walmart fire extinguisher with a Ferrari sticker on it.

am with u all the way bro.. the car is a mess, they took of the rear lights in the enzo and put these ugly exhaust tips intead, the car hasn't got side mirrors and the dirver can't even see whats behind his back! and why do ferrari sell there cars much more expensive then others? couse they think that they make more proper cars then other companys.. and they convinced ppl that the Enzo is the best car ever, so they get the honor to choose who to own it!!

bmagni
06-26-2005, 02:15 PM
ferrari just want to make more money from the engine they spent years building, so they've threw it in a car and called it the Enzo, then they used it again in the MC12 and now they made somthing that looks so horribol and called it the fxx.. omg!

as TT says all this cars started from scratch and headed to different directions, and they have done the same thing through the years, as well as porsche, mb, bmw and all the brands do the same, take the info from previous cars and then develop new ones. Same thing with the engines.

And ill say it once again, this cars is just a CONCEPT made to develop new cars, looks of supercars in early development arent that good. Right ? Why is this ?? cause they are made to perform and not to have the best looks, the looks come in the final production car.. And looks are to sell, and theyre result of the lines made for the car to have a certain performance.
Think of the FXX as a test mule theyre selling, is it that hard ??? why dont people get it ???
Its not a production car !!!! Its made to help develop new cars !! Its a concept !!! READ, READ !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

mustang07
07-12-2005, 06:33 PM
http://img316.imageshack.us/img316/8347/fxx8bn.th.jpg (http://img316.imageshack.us/my.php?image=fxx8bn.jpg)

I just found this and didn't see it on here. This one has no striping and different exhaust outlets. Sorry if I missed it and it's a repost. Oh and sorry for the quality it's a magazine scan.

TT
07-12-2005, 06:35 PM
Yep that car was seen some months ago testing at Fiorano.. getting ready to launch the FXX obviously

Ferrarikid
07-12-2005, 10:16 PM
Everything looks great on that car the only thing i dont like is the back with all the vents and extra exaust holes its to much for me but that doesnt really matter does it the things has got to be fast a shit

Mers
07-12-2005, 11:14 PM
I despise that car....i think it looks like a fiberglass kit car, trying (badly) to imitate a gorgeous car (the enzo)....

But i like it that they will use it for the greater good of ferrari....