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SFDMALEX
06-05-2005, 06:55 PM
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Apple to switch to Intel chips: WSJ
Sun Jun 5, 2005 06:21 PM ET
NEW YORK (Reuters) - Apple Computer Inc. (AAPL.O: Quote, Profile, Research) is expected to announce Monday that it will begin shifting its Macintosh computer line next year to Intel Corp. chips, the Wall Street Journal reported on its Web site on Sunday, citing people familiar with the situation.
The move would be a major change in strategy by Apple, a high-profile win for Intel (INTC.O: Quote, Profile, Research) and a blow to International Business Machines Corp. (IBM.N: Quote, Profile, Research) . and Freescale Semiconductor Inc. (FSL.N: Quote, Profile, Research) , suppliers of the PowerPC chips long used in its Macintosh systems.
Apple executives were not immediately available for comment.
Apple's decision, which comes after years of industry speculation and behind-the-scenes lobbying by Intel, could cause disruptions for Macintosh users, the paper said.
Application programs will have to be adapted to run on Intel's x86 chips, the calculating engines used in most computers running Microsoft Corp.'s (MSFT.O: Quote, Profile, Research) Windows operating system.
Steve Jobs, Apple's chief executive, is expected to explain the shift Monday during a keynote speech at the company's annual software developers conference in San Francisco, said the people familiar with the situation.
Well - the last excuse for Apple's even existing has been removed now.. :P
Odd move - considering all the supposed advantages of powerpc over x86 architecture.. LOL.
Funny and sad at the same time. ;)
graywolf624
06-05-2005, 09:20 PM
Stupid move on there part, but if they spent half the time selling looks as they did the fact that theyve had the superior hardware for quite some time they would do much better.
Global Warming
06-05-2005, 11:48 PM
Thank god! Apple is over. I grew up on them but that was in 80s.
Making a computer that both hardware and software is proprietary and that represents less than 4% of the world’s computers was just stupid.
pharzo
06-06-2005, 02:34 PM
Thank god! Apple is over. I grew up on them but that was in 80s.
Making a computer that both hardware and software is proprietary and that represents less than 4% of the world’s computers was just stupid.
They're not over....just switching chips
And you're saying that it shouldn't have been built because....they were somehow supposed to know windows would be more popular......
good one
and point and click can be attributed to apple, as can touchscreens with handwriting recognition. and functioning gui's. as well as pda's...yeah they definitely deserve to die
evoWalo
06-06-2005, 03:09 PM
This is a weird year. Microsoft makes the switch to PPC and Apple does x86. So does that mean both MS and Apple are dead? Apple migrated twice in the past but they're still here. Apple's switching to Intels because Intel can deliver better performance per watt than what IBM can muster within the same time frame. Apple's just doing what's best for their customers aka their bottomline.
By most people's logic having Linux on x86 makes it "dead and irrelevant" seeming Windows makes up the bulk of the desktop. Most people buy Macs because of the OS. The processors shouldnt really matter. Having a stable platform that doesnt have viruses and spyware matters to some people.
The Keynote's transcription can be read at http://www.macworld.com/news/2005/06/06/liveupdate/index.php
^^^ But the key being "Will the OS degrade or improve with the platform switch?" ;)
adamwich
06-06-2005, 04:10 PM
"the soul of the Mac is its operating system” - Jobs.
Global Warming
06-06-2005, 05:17 PM
Thank god! Apple is over. I grew up on them but that was in 80s.
Making a computer that both hardware and software is proprietary and that represents less than 4% of the world’s computers was just stupid.
and point and click can be attributed to apple, as can touchscreens with handwriting recognition. and functioning gui's. as well as pda's...yeah they definitely deserve to die
Nope Xerox invented the GUI, Apple paid for a "demo" of the Xerox GUI OS and then stole the idea and came out with the Mac a few years later.
SFDMALEX
06-06-2005, 06:01 PM
"the soul of the Mac is its operating system” - Jobs.
Thats it? Well I hate mac os.....
pharzo
06-06-2005, 06:46 PM
Thank god! Apple is over. I grew up on them but that was in 80s.
Making a computer that both hardware and software is proprietary and that represents less than 4% of the world’s computers was just stupid.
and point and click can be attributed to apple, as can touchscreens with handwriting recognition. and functioning gui's. as well as pda's...yeah they definitely deserve to die
Nope Xerox invented the GUI, Apple paid for a "demo" of the Xerox GUI OS and then stole the idea and came out with the Mac a few years later.
They did not "pay for a 'demo'" as you say, but they hired people who worked for Xerox. Then they looked at what they had developed and built on it. They expanded the system and made it usable, as well as popular. They made the idea practical....they made it work
They stole it.
I remember using Xerox GUI based products before the GUI based Apple systems came out.
One product was Xerox Ventura and other desktop publishing components.
I seem to remember Xerox failed to patent the mouse, GUI and window concept.
There fault... ;)
evoWalo
06-06-2005, 08:37 PM
^^^ But the key being "Will the OS degrade or improve with the platform switch?" ;)
So you're sayin x86 isnt as "good" as PPC? OS X on x86 (aka Marklar) has been in development since 10.0. Apple has had 5 years to internally work out the bugs.
History about GUIs
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_GUI
Apple's press release http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2005/jun/06intel.html
The question now is what will MS do?
^^^ But the key being "Will the OS degrade or improve with the platform switch?" ;)
So you're sayin x86 isnt as "good" as PPC?
History about GUIs
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_GUI
Apple's press release http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2005/jun/06intel.html
Somehow the "truth" has been manipulated to show Apple didn't copy Xerox work. Quickly reading through some links, Wikepedia seems to have left out major bits of information.
No mention of the products that shipped and utilized runtime MS Windows 1.0x etc. Didn't immidiatly find mention of Windows286 either.
*shrug*
I will stick to the stories as they circulated in the early/mid 80's ;)
Global Warming
06-06-2005, 09:01 PM
Thank god! Apple is over. I grew up on them but that was in 80s.
Making a computer that both hardware and software is proprietary and that represents less than 4% of the world’s computers was just stupid.
and point and click can be attributed to apple, as can touchscreens with handwriting recognition. and functioning gui's. as well as pda's...yeah they definitely deserve to die
Nope Xerox invented the GUI, Apple paid for a "demo" of the Xerox GUI OS and then stole the idea and came out with the Mac a few years later.
They did not "pay for a 'demo'" as you say, but they hired people who worked for Xerox. Then they looked at what they had developed and built on it. They expanded the system and made it usable, as well as popular. They made the idea practical....they made it work
Yes they did. Steve Jobs gave Xerox $1mil in Apple stock to "demo" Xerox's PARC system. They only hired people from Xerox after this. Xerox sued Apple for stealing their GUI concept and the suit lasted for years and years. But Apple eventually won the suit.
SFDMALEX
06-06-2005, 09:40 PM
Ahhhh, who cares, Apples shit, case closed.
Toronto
06-06-2005, 10:02 PM
^^^ ever used one with training b4 :wink:
much better then XP, easy, quick, and simple, just like everything good in life :D
SFDMALEX
06-06-2005, 10:15 PM
^^^ ever used one with training b4 :wink:
much better then XP, easy, quick, and simple, just like everything good in life :D
Yeah I did, coudlnt open more then three applications cause there would be a system overload. I dont care if it will run slow as hell with that extra application, I want it there. You know what I mean? I want the computer to do what I tell it to, if it will blow up trying to load 5 programs at a time, let it blow up.
And honestly I dont find it any quicker then xp, xp is fucking shit I agree, but when Im doing a power point, while editing some images from the net in photoshop, I dont see it being any faster then it already is in XP, alt+tab is all I need.
evoWalo
06-07-2005, 02:19 AM
Somehow the "truth" has been manipulated to show Apple didn't copy Xerox work. Quickly reading through some links, Wikepedia seems to have left out major bits of information.
No mention of the products that shipped and utilized runtime MS Windows 1.0x etc. Didn't immidiatly find mention of Windows286 either.
*shrug*
I will stick to the stories as they circulated in the early/mid 80's ;)
Try this out
http://arstechnica.com/articles/paedia/gui.ars/1
evoWalo
06-07-2005, 02:23 AM
Yeah I did, coudlnt open more then three applications cause there would be a system overload. I dont care if it will run slow as hell with that extra application, I want it there. You know what I mean? I want the computer to do what I tell it to, if it will blow up trying to load 5 programs at a time, let it blow up.
And honestly I dont find it any quicker then xp, xp is fucking shit I agree, but when Im doing a power point, while editing some images from the net in photoshop, I dont see it being any faster then it already is in XP, alt+tab is all I need.
You're probably using a really old Mac. Those things sucked ass.
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