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jon_s
05-19-2005, 05:37 PM
Ok, rules are rules; so TT put this in unvarified for now. I will get a proper custom at the weekend.

This is the little car that tried its best to catch the Gumballers in the Vid I posted :lol:

I have just sourced a new engine for her; a 2.0 Duratec from a rear ended '05 Mondeo. With some trick bits from Cosworth, she will be pushing a comfortable 230bhp. Unforunately I need to increase the wheel size to fit the new brakes.

The engine is not going in just yet though....plenty of work to be done!

http://img216.echo.cx/img216/8195/jons17jr.th.jpg (http://img216.echo.cx/my.php?image=jons17jr.jpg)http://img216.echo.cx/img216/7246/jons29wl.th.jpg (http://img216.echo.cx/my.php?image=jons29wl.jpg)http://img216.echo.cx/img216/8034/jons37tb.th.jpg (http://img216.echo.cx/my.php?image=jons37tb.jpg)

topgeartom
05-19-2005, 06:28 PM
that thing will be bloody insane - I like it!

The understeer will be horrific surely? Bloody good fun though!

TransAm
05-19-2005, 08:09 PM
Thats a lot of HP for a small car... :twisted: Will be watching this space for sure! I say you take it to Spain and put it against the Clio... 8)

A long time ago they had a nova with a calibra turbo motor on Top Gear, that thing shifted...

gis
05-19-2005, 08:38 PM
jon as you know im in love with this project already,knowing first hand how light these cars of ours are so with that engine it really is gonna be stupidly fast.to give you an idea Clayton (you know who that is jon) said his 0-60 was in the high 6's....that was with 161hp and a 1.7 puma engine.lol so yours is goin to be quite fun

who knows,if this project turns out as good as we expect....my 1.6 may be comin out in the future and bein replaced by sumthin else :D

Daggernite
05-19-2005, 08:49 PM
Nice plans! a Fiesta with 230bhp will surely be insane. No one would exspect a fiesta to have all the horsies, but thats what would make it so great :D

TT
05-20-2005, 11:54 AM
Plenty of custom shots provided!

http://img216.echo.cx/img216/8985/photo00292ah.th.jpg (http://img216.echo.cx/my.php?image=photo00292ah.jpg)

http://img216.echo.cx/img216/6121/photo00305qb.th.jpg (http://img216.echo.cx/my.php?image=photo00305qb.jpg)

http://img216.echo.cx/img216/6241/photo00314oe.th.jpg (http://img216.echo.cx/my.php?image=photo00314oe.jpg)

I really like this shade of green BTW!

No.1
05-20-2005, 12:05 PM
Sounds wicked to me jon. 8)

I hope the build goes well, and 230 from a 2.0 is pushin it a bit.

I'm guessing the car will be a daily driver, so do you commute with it? If you do, maintenance will be quite high :(

jon_s
05-20-2005, 12:30 PM
Right; I can see further explanations of the proposed engine are needed!! I should have expected nothing less from the JW crew!

Ok; for some backgound into the engine I have, see this link:
http://www.sbdev.co.uk/History_files/History_DuratecTuning.htm

I am officially aiming for 200-210bhp. With the Duratec this is easily obtainable without replacing pistons e.t.c This is the stage my car will stay for a while. It will be 100% reliable and fairly good on the maintanance side of things.

I need to have engine mounts made up as the engine (unlike the puma 1.7) does not drop straight in. I also need to address cooling issues with a much larger rad.

The car will be stopped with a set of either: Brembos if I am feeling flush (a lot of custom work to the hub and mounts needs doing; as well as changing the off set of the wheels) or 300mm Brakes off a Focus ST. (a much cheaper option!!)

The car will remain a daily driver until I save up for a Audi A3 1.8T. I was looking at the S3, but well, both car cost too much. I could have got an S3 and sold the fezza; but I love mucking about with engines!!

Anyway; dinner is ready....

jon_s
05-20-2005, 12:59 PM
[quote="jon_s"]Right; I can see further explanations of the proposed engine are needed!! I should have expected nothing less from the JW crew!

Ok; for some backgound into the engine I have, see this link:
http://www.sbdev.co.uk/History_files/History_DuratecTuning.htm

I am officially aiming for 200-210bhp. With the Duratec this is easily obtainable without replacing pistons e.t.c This is the stage my car will stay for a while. It will be 100% reliable and fairly good on the maintanance side of things.

I need to have engine mounts made up as the engine (unlike the puma 1.7) does not drop straight in. I also need to address cooling issues with a much larger rad.

The car will be stopped with a set of either: Brembos if I am feeling flush (a lot of custom work to the hub and mounts needs doing; as well as changing the off set of the wheels) or 300mm Brakes off a Focus ST. (a much cheaper option!!)

The car will remain a daily driver until I save up for a Audi A3 1.8T. I was looking at the S3, but well, both car cost too much. I could have got an S3 and sold the fezza; but I love mucking about with engines!!

Anyway; once I have a second car I will turn this little fezza into a track car. At which point I may consider new pistons e.t.c.

Mopsdrops
05-20-2005, 01:23 PM
very nice car you have, looks beautiful, and must be fast as hell. Good luck with the rest of tuning your going to do.

ARMAN
05-20-2005, 01:25 PM
Wow, 230 is lots of pony's for mini hatch :shock: Nice color and wheels Jon_s :wink: Me like :P

No.1
05-20-2005, 06:40 PM
Right; I can see further explanations of the proposed engine are needed!! I should have expected nothing less from the JW crew!

Ok; for some backgound into the engine I have, see this link:
http://www.sbdev.co.uk/History_files/History_DuratecTuning.htm

I am officially aiming for 200-210bhp. With the Duratec this is easily obtainable without replacing pistons e.t.c This is the stage my car will stay for a while. It will be 100% reliable and fairly good on the maintanance side of things.

I need to have engine mounts made up as the engine (unlike the puma 1.7) does not drop straight in. I also need to address cooling issues with a much larger rad.

The car will be stopped with a set of either: Brembos if I am feeling flush (a lot of custom work to the hub and mounts needs doing; as well as changing the off set of the wheels) or 300mm Brakes off a Focus ST. (a much cheaper option!!)

The car will remain a daily driver until I save up for a Audi A3 1.8T. I was looking at the S3, but well, both car cost too much. I could have got an S3 and sold the fezza; but I love mucking about with engines!!

Anyway; dinner is ready....

Nice plans.... i think not buying an S3 was the right idea :) The Fiesta will be much more fun, and even though the 1.8T A3 doesn't have the S3's Q-car status, it should be a better steer with a little less weight over the front wheels.... and the 1.8 is easilly chipped etc... :twisted:

Can't wait to see pics of the build mate :D

Yablokov
05-20-2005, 06:44 PM
lol, thats more hp then the audi a4 i want ><

numerouno
05-21-2005, 04:10 AM
AWESOME plans m8! :shock:
btw what are your plans for the suspension and steering?

bmwmpower
05-21-2005, 04:30 AM
nice and powerfull, fiesta have always good handling, its ford , now have power

jon_s
05-21-2005, 06:49 AM
AWESOME plans m8! :shock:
btw what are your plans for the suspension and steering?

Suspension: H+R coilovers
Brakes: Brembos
Steering: Unchanged for the moment. Might investigate a quick rack if I feel the need.

gis
05-21-2005, 07:10 AM
what size are the brembos you goin for mate? 300mm?...325mm?....the 325mm are focus RS spec arent they? i was thinkin of goin for a 280mm escort cossie spec in the future.

have you seen the AP racing 300mm conversion from pumaspeed,they have brembo discs i think.

jon_s
05-21-2005, 08:05 AM
300mm to fit under some 16's. I may go 325 if I get the 7 spoke RS Diamond Cuts:
http://www.fordpartsuk.com/Merchant2/graphics/00000001/ford%20escort%20alloy%20wheel%207%20spoke.jpg

gis
05-21-2005, 08:29 AM
theres a dude over at ZSOC who has 325mm on his,he says it stops stupidly quick,lol

jon_s
05-21-2005, 09:35 AM
It will do lol. Maybe a little too quick!! 300mm is more than enough to haul my car to a stop!

topgeartom
05-21-2005, 10:10 AM
It will do lol. Maybe a little too quick!! 300mm is more than enough to haul my car to a stop!

The phrase "lobbing an anchor out of the boot" comes to mind!

jon_s
05-21-2005, 10:23 AM
Yeah, there is a 612bhp 4x4 mk6 Cossy engined fiesta about!!
I'll get a pic..and a vid of it at a drag strip!


LOL@tom. The whole idea of the car is to give people a bit of a shock. I am trying my best to keep it as standard from the outside as possible. The Kit is the optional one from Ford, I just need to find the skirts and fog covers. The wheels, if I go 17's will be Ford RS wheels (pictured on the previous page).

The only clue may be a "Powered by Cosworth" Badge altough I may get a 1.3 badge for kicks lol

I will keep you all updated with what is going on! :)

Edit:

Ok, this was option 1; a 1.7 puma engine. Really easy to do as the puma has the same chassis as the Fiesta. This one is pushing out 200bhp. Pretty much the limit of the engine. (The owner goes by the name of "Woddy" on forums)
http://img216.echo.cx/img216/3055/woodypuma5le.th.jpg (http://img216.echo.cx/my.php?image=woodypuma5le.jpg)

However, that is pretty 'common' now.

This is the A1 Fiesta:
http://img216.echo.cx/img216/7741/a1fez0xh.th.jpg (http://img216.echo.cx/my.php?image=a1fez0xh.jpg)

http://img216.echo.cx/img216/9027/a1fez13vz.th.jpg (http://img216.echo.cx/my.php?image=a1fez13vz.jpg)

http://img216.echo.cx/img216/2862/a1fez37ti.th.jpg (http://img216.echo.cx/my.php?image=a1fez37ti.jpg)
The best bit is that from the outside the car is pretty standard!! :twisted:

Here is the vid:
http://www.fordsport.org.uk/New/Vids/A1_Fiesta.WMV

The car was running 400bhp for that run. With the engine above it is pushing over 600bhp!!!


Ooooooh, (can you tell I have a soft spot for Fiesta's!) I found this little beauty!!
An ORIGINAL mk1 fiesta with a thumping V8!!! (RWD)
http://img216.echo.cx/img216/7332/v8fez2dc.th.jpg (http://img216.echo.cx/my.php?image=v8fez2dc.jpg)

topgeartom
05-21-2005, 10:57 AM
lmao at the 1.3 badge. Could provide many hours of fun owning dickheads in novas at the lights

gis
05-21-2005, 06:11 PM
lol novas tom? he will be taking on and suceeding to beat civic type R's with a 2 litre with 230hp.but i do have to admit.id actually mess around with novas if i had the engine jon is gettin in my car,lol

if you do go 1.7 jon at least you know its a good thing and has no problems really with it.but the 2 litre route will sure be different

topgeartom
05-21-2005, 06:17 PM
lol novas tom? he will be taking on and suceeding to beat civic type R's with a 2 litre with 230hp.but i do have to admit.id actually mess around with novas if i had the engine jon is gettin in my car,lol

exactly. Bang a 1.2 badge on the side, and get some nob end in a bag of shit to think hes finally gonna be able to beat someone off the line, then kick his ass. Ahhh the fun.....