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TeflonTron
05-06-2005, 12:24 PM
I posted the below on another car forum, and all of the replies so far have been somthing like "My Camaro with 400BHP would eat a Murcielago" or "My Supra would kill any Lamborghini" and the usual crap. I'm hoping for a much better set of answers and a warmer discussion here.
"I've seen a lot of Supra, Mustang and Lamborghini videos in my time, but one question has never really been answered: how much BHP and Torque would a Supra and Mustang need in order to stay in the race with say a Murcielago? I know that Supras enjoy races from a Roll, but a Murcielago has such wide gearing that it can start a 70MPH Roll-On and still be at the bottom of 2nd gear, whereas its Traction Control and AWD means that it can rip it hard from a standing start, if the driver doesn't mind smoking the clutch a little. The Mustang and Supra are both lighter than the Murcielago, but I'm guessing that they would both need maybe 650BHP at the crank, due to the gearing, wide power-band and huge traction of the Murcielago? However, even with 650BHP at the crank I'm still thinking that the Murcielago would eat them when the big numbers of like 140MPH or 150MPH or so comes up? Thoughts? Comments?
This is not meant to be a flame on the Supra or Mustang, simply a discussion so that I can widen my knowledge.
TeflonTron
05-06-2005, 12:44 PM
Are we talking track use or the usual US handicap racing also known as drag racing....?
Sorry, my bad. Err, originally I was just thinking of in a straight line: from a stoplight, and from the usual 50MPH and 70MPH Roll-On. However, I'm also open enough to hear suggestions and thoughts on track use as well. :wink:
SnakeBitten
05-06-2005, 03:47 PM
A Supra with 650hp would easily beat a stock 571hp Murcielago from any roll on race. From a dig it would depend on how good the 650hp Supra launches vs the idiot proof awd of the Lambo, but the Supra should win in the 1/4 as well..Modded Supra's are monsters on the topend not much can mess with them on a roll-on race especially if you spot one 650hp and bring a 571hp car to do battle.....
Actually around these parts any Z06 with headers and a hot cam will roll away from a Murci until the Murci starts it's run up to it' top speed from 150 or so...
You do not find (at least I have never) a street driven Murci or Gallardo that is abused from a stand still - something about Lambo clutches and drive trains being notoriously weak and expensive to fix.
As for how a 650hp Mustang would treat a Murci up to about 140mph - I think the Lambo driver would be placing a cell phone to his dealer crying that a $20,000bucket of bolts just kicked his arse...... ;)
But as they say - it's not about "who wins the races"... :P it's about "what the Murci represents".. ;)
PaulGT2164
05-06-2005, 05:37 PM
a supra pushing 650hp would easily rape a muci from a stop or a roll..
from launch it would just depend on the driver...
same with a modded mustang , or like rc45 said, a modded z06
however, seeing such a spectacle would be rare lol but it would be entertaining :D
BADMIHAI
05-06-2005, 06:46 PM
And a 900 hp AWD Lada would smoke a Murcielago....and blow up after 100 km. like those other tuned shit buckets you guys mentioned above. I am sick of this tuned Vs. stock debate. A Murcielago (or Ferrari, or Aston, or Porsche, etc.) is so much more than a drag racer and it seems many of the peeps on this site don't understand this.
TeflonTron
05-06-2005, 07:09 PM
I agree, BADMIHAI: a lot of people do talk smack. Seems to me that they're slightly jealous of the fact that they can't afford the exotic in the first place, so feel the need to bash it. :wink:
What does piss me off though, are when people use the words "easily" and "rape" as if any old car with 500BHP or more will walk a Lambo like a stroll to the shops. I've never seen it, so that's why I started the thread, but I don't think that a Supra would "walk" or "embarrass" a Murcielago from a stop, and the same holds true for a slightly modded Z06. I think that people base their opinions on an old video of a Diablo messing up at the dragstrip against a Viper and fail to look at the raw numbers involved. Put it this way: when a Supra/Mustang/Z06 or whatever decides to race against a Lambo, it is they, not the Raging Bull that has something to prove, and that is why 9/10 the Lambo pulls out, or doesn't go into the race all guns blazing.
PaulGT2164
05-06-2005, 08:31 PM
first off, read the original post...hes talking about Modded supras or mustangs..
hence the
"how much BHP and Torque would a Supra and Mustang need in order to stay in the race with say a Murcielago"
"I am sick of this tuned Vs. stock debate. A Murcielago (or Ferrari, or Aston, or Porsche, etc.) is so much more than a drag racer and it seems many of the peeps on this site don't understand this."
well he asked, so we all answered....dont hate the posters for answering a quesion they didnt ask. He asked about it being a stoplight drag...
"I don't think that a Supra would "walk" or "embarrass" a Murcielago from a stop, and the same holds true for a slightly modded Z06. I think that people base their opinions on an old video of a Diablo messing up at the dragstrip against a Viper and fail to look at the raw numbers involved"
obviously you have never seen/ridden in/ or looked at the numbers of a modded supra or Z06. there are numerous ppl here that would glady point you in the right direction. a stock lambo murci runs the quarter in 11.7 or so....thats a number easily achieved by a supra, or a z06 with relatively simple mods...a supra with roughly 650 hp runs the same time....and i am sure a z06 being a lighter car would run that if not faster...
exotic cars are awesome, dont get me wrong, and i am in no way jealous of not owning one, to be honest , i wouldnt want one cause id be too paraniod about it....you asked a question, so i answered, as did everyone else
i looked at the raw numbers, i have never seen that video...
why ppl have to get so defensive and insult others for answering a question honestly is beyond me
funny teflontom, you asked the question, and now you are insulting the ppl who answered by calling the jealous cause they cant afford one...
TeflonTron
05-06-2005, 09:07 PM
PaulGT2164: I'm sorry if you took offense at my comments about exotics and jealousy. They were posted out of frustration, not hate, and I apologise. As I said, I posted exactly the same question over at RacingFlix, and every answer so far has been "Oh, Lambos are just overpriced junk" and "my Mustang would walk any lambo" (you know the type) and it pisses me off. All I wanted to know, in a basic form, was roughly what BHP a Supra or Mustang would need in order to match the performance of a Murcielago, both from a stop, a highway roll, and all the way until the big numbers of like 160MPH or more come up.
So, as per your last post, you reckon that a Supra, Mustang or Z06 with about 650BHP (give or take) at the Engine should be able to match a Murcielago to 60, 100, 150 and from a 70MPH Roll On? The reason why I ask all of theose numbers is that it's "easy" to get a car fast to say 60MPH, but much harder to keep that level of performance up across the whole range. Here's another question: would you think that the same 650BHP Mustang, Supra or Z06 would be able to match the Murcielago at extreme speed, like 180MPH, and could they match the top speed of like 206MPH? I know that the above are a lot of questions, but I have a thirst for knowledge, and I'm trying to pin down a helpful, and insightful person such as yourself to help me expand it!
PaulGT2164
05-06-2005, 09:34 PM
for the top end of the equation it would depend on the gearing of the car
im not sure about the stock gearing on a z06 so maybe rc45 can shed the light on that one
supras, on the other hand have been known to reach 200+ mph, ill dig around and see how much power one would need to do that, at above 170ish the lambos better aerodynamics over the supra would be a large benefit. i know top secret has a supra that had 700-800hp and could do well over 200mph, and was street legal. there have been several ppl that have been able to get mostly stock supras (with the limiter removed) and enough road to 170+ so i am sure a 650-700hp supra could at least make it to 180-200mph if the proper saftey and aero mods were taken into consideration. i think that a well tuned 650hp supra could run with the lambo up to at least 160, maybe more
the z06 would fare better (its more aerodynamic) than the supra, however i am not sure of the gearing, so it may or may not be able to crack 200mph
and please, dont confuse this forum with racingflix.
from my experience here, the people on jabbas world (ive been here since it was started) are quite a bit better and more knowledgable
the age old question of Stock V Modded? Well you put enought money into just about any car and you'll beat a performance car. I'll never be able to buy a Lambo so I always like it when I see a modded street car beat one , but in saying that I feel sorry for the guy in the modded car who has to pay the bills for it.
Toronto
05-07-2005, 01:49 AM
^^^^ lol and a tuned 911's would hit 242mph
who care's
you spend money on a shitty car you get to beat a super car, you spend money on a sports/super car you get to beat the tuned shitty car.
In the end all you really want is the sports/super car 8)
You do not find (at least I have never) a street driven Murci or Gallardo that is abused from a stand still - something about Lambo clutches and drive trains being notoriously weak and expensive to fix.
Where do find this info about the notoriously weak drivetrain of the Murci and Gallardo?
I have searched the web some but didnt come up with anything, so if you could point me in the right direction I would be happy....thanks... :?
Ask Jabba.
Then watch owners videos of Lambo's - it's not an insult, just a fact that has been shared with me by more than one Lambo owner - cars/bikes that are sports orientated are not known for clutches and drive trains that can take standing start abuse.
If there is definitive proof that the Murci and Galardono longer suffer Lambo's clutch weakness then great - until then, based on what has been told to me by Lambo owners and been seen by Murcis and Gallardos on the street that are babied on the street I may change my view.
Afterall, sprint races around race tracks only start from a standtill once - the rest of the time the are rolling. So there is no need/desir/reason to engineer super tough drag-abuse resistant components.
exotic cars are awesome, dont get me wrong, and i am in no way jealous of not owning one, to be honest , i wouldnt want one cause id be too paraniod about it....you asked a question, so i answered, as did everyone else
i looked at the raw numbers, i have never seen that video...
why ppl have to get so defensive and insult others for answering a question honestly is beyond me
funny teflontom, you asked the question, and now you are insulting the ppl who answered by calling the jealous cause they cant afford one...
Exactly - the question was asked - we try answer, and they go off and act like arseholes about it.
However, these Murci and Gallardo guys better think twice before tangling with the new C6 Z06 - on the drag strip OR the road ourse.. :twisted:
Basically it is like a mean heads/headers/cam car out of the box now... ;)
It won't be long to wait for the "my modded Murci can beat your stock C6 Z06" stories to start surfacing... :P
mindgam3
05-07-2005, 11:16 AM
Who cares - i know which one i'd take every day of the week - the exotica.
TeflonTron
05-07-2005, 11:46 AM
Well, Allan (AllanLambo) has never had clutch problems, and he drives pretty hard in his modded SV, although he always says "I feather the clutch until about 10MPH, but after than all fucking hell breaks loose"!!
I don't think that it's so much an issue with the strength of the clutch and drivetrain, but rather that if they do break it's an expensive job to fix. Buying the car in the first place is expensive, but replaces clutches and the like simply because everyone wanted you to make a video of you crushing a Mustang, is something else!
Well, Allan (AllanLambo) has never had clutch problems, and he drives pretty hard in his modded SV, although he always says "I feather the clutch until about 10MPH, but after than all fucking hell breaks loose"!!
I don't think that it's so much an issue with the strength of the clutch and drivetrain, but rather that if they do break it's an expensive job to fix. Buying the car in the first place is expensive, but replaces clutches and the like simply because everyone wanted you to make a video of you crushing a Mustang, is something else!
OH God forbid... now we are quoting AllanLambo as the gospel... :roll:
TeflonTron
05-07-2005, 03:59 PM
Well, Allan (AllanLambo) has never had clutch problems, and he drives pretty hard in his modded SV, although he always says "I feather the clutch until about 10MPH, but after that all fucking hell breaks loose"!!
I don't think that it's so much an issue with the strength of the clutch and drivetrain, but rather that if they do break it's an expensive job to fix. Buying the car in the first place is expensive, but replaces clutches and the like simply because everyone wanted you to make a video of you crushing a Mustang, is something else!
OH God forbid... now we are quoting AllanLambo as the gospel... :roll:
I don't see anyone quoting what Allan says as "the Gospel", do you? What I did say, for those who have trouble with comprehension, was simply that he has never had any issues with his clutch. What I also implied, in case that is too much to understand as well, is that as long as you don't nail it from a dead stop, but instead let the car roll forward to a few MPH, the clutch should be fine. Anyway, what's your obvious problem with Allan? That he's an ego-maniac? Whooptie-do! Next you'll be saying that the Diablo SV isn't his as well!
I don't see anyone quoting what Allan says as "the Gospel", do you?
Actually you just quoted him...
What I did say, for those who have trouble with comprehension, was simply that he has never had any issues with his clutch.
Not that he has told you...
What I also implied, in case that is too much to understand as well, is that as long as you don't nail it from a dead stop, but instead let the car roll forward to a few MPH, the clutch should be fine.
WTF would that prove? Prove that all the "exotic" is good for is just to give a single car demo? Prove that the cars clutch and drive train is too brittle to be beat on from a stand still?
Rolling starts of any type are pretty stupid in anything except races of some distance around a race track.
In the real world of street driven cars they are just a novel poinless past time - as you never know who wins because they jumped the start.. and who wins because the NOS Diablo SV is really as fast as they claim.
Anyway, what's your obvious problem with Allan? That he's an ego-maniac? Whooptie-do! Next you'll be saying that the Diablo SV isn't his as well!
Sounds like you are involved in a long distance relationship there.
TeflonTron
05-08-2005, 06:19 AM
I don't see anyone quoting what Allan says as "the Gospel", do you?
Actually you just quoted him...
What I did say, for those who have trouble with comprehension, was simply that he has never had any issues with his clutch.
Not that he has told you...
What I also implied, in case that is too much to understand as well, is that as long as you don't nail it from a dead stop, but instead let the car roll forward to a few MPH, the clutch should be fine.
WTF would that prove? Prove that all the "exotic" is good for is just to give a single car demo? Prove that the cars clutch and drive train is too brittle to be beat on from a stand still?
Rolling starts of any type are pretty stupid in anything except races of some distance around a race track.
In the real world of street driven cars they are just a novel poinless past time - as you never know who wins because they jumped the start.. and who wins because the NOS Diablo SV is really as fast as they claim.
Anyway, what's your obvious problem with Allan? That he's an ego-maniac? Whooptie-do! Next you'll be saying that the Diablo SV isn't his as well!
Sounds like you are involved in a long distance relationship there.
Hmm. RC45: you're one funny son-of-a-bitch, and you ain't even trying! :wink:
The point that I was trying to make was simply that with a Diablo or Murcielago there is no need to try and go for Armageddon from a stoplight, as most Mustangs, Supras and Corvettes, unless pretty heavily tuned, aren't going to win anyway. Moreover, from a roll, most of the musings that I've read from Lambo owners, are that from a 70MPH roll they should be in 2nd gear, but instead go and start out in third. I don't need to explain to you the difference that this makes in performance. Again, the car can post the numbers, but driving along at 70MPH in 2nd gear on the highway whilst the shitheal in his "souped up" Mustang lines the cars up and fiddles around with his camera, is not good for the drivetrain in the slightest. The clutch on a Murcielago, should it break, costs a heck of a lot more than the clutch on the Mustang or Supra, and owners of 1/4 million Dollar cars in the main, don't want to risk that, and why should they? Heck, they have the Exotic already, so there's no need to show off to their buddies or in order to get the girls. One Diablo owner who I do give huge props to though, is the owner of the 6.0 in the video of the race between him and Havoc in his tuned T/A. He says that he'll "race anyone, anytime, as long as it's safe".
Going back to Allan in closing: what's your issue? Is it because he's an arrogant bastard? Or are you one of those people who still subscribe to the theory that he's full of shit and the Diablo SV isn't his? Or, is it because he has the Exotic, and you don't? :wink:
The point that I was trying to make was simply that with a Diablo or Murcielago there is no need to try and go for Armageddon from a stoplight, as most Mustangs, Supras and Corvettes, unless pretty heavily tuned, aren't going to win anyway. Moreover, from a roll, most of the musings that I've read from Lambo owners, are that from a 70MPH roll they should be in 2nd gear, but instead go and start out in third.
Now why the fuck would you spend all that money, have all that car, and then just "pose" around in 3rd gear.. ??
Unless you just dropped the cash on a penis extension and were not a true motor enthusiast.
Based on AllanLambos personality - or lack there of - you can bet that the Lambo owner is not going to back down and "just roll from 3rd" on purpose, this is just a convenient excuse for those that can't drive worth a shit, or whose cars are actually slower than they think :)
Need I remind you of all the Enzos that have been driven by these egos and crashed and burned (literally) because they can't drive worth a fuck? :)
I don't need to explain to you the difference that this makes in performance. Again, the car can post the numbers, but driving along at 70MPH in 2nd gear on the highway whilst the shitheal in his "souped up" Mustang lines the cars up and fiddles around with his camera, is not good for the drivetrain in the slightest.
So you are admitting that the drivetrain is inherently weak then?
The clutch on a Murcielago, should it break, costs a heck of a lot more than the clutch on the Mustang or Supra, and owners of 1/4 million Dollar cars in the main, don't want to risk that, and why should they?
You have to pay to play - if the bloke spent his last dollar on the car, and now has no money to modify of maintain it - it's his fault isn't it?
Strangely enough, teher is an exotic mechanic with a small custom shop down the street from a good friend - and the few times we have been around this shop when owners have come to pickup their exotics, they actually do beat the snot out of them, and enjoy doing so - well at least the car enthusiast ones that would never "cruise" in 3rd and then get beat by a Mustang or Supra and then fall back on the "but I have an exotic so win the game of life" excuse - that response is reserved for the toffy nosed snobs who just spend cash on cars to bolster their own self image - the penis extension crowd. :)
Heck, they have the Exotic already, so there's no need to show off to their buddies or in order to get the girls.
Oh - wait - you admit that most of the exotics are just penis extensions then :)
One Diablo owner who I do give huge props to though, is the owner of the 6.0 in the video of the race between him and Havoc in his tuned T/A. He says that he'll "race anyone, anytime, as long as it's safe".
Then why not ask HIM the truth about what happens when he lines up alongside a $100,000 Veilside-type Supra? ;)
Going back to Allan in closing: what's your issue? Is it because he's an arrogant bastard? Or are you one of those people who still subscribe to the theory that he's full of shit and the Diablo SV isn't his? Or, is it because he has the Exotic, and you don't? :wink:
You ever consumated this long distance relationship of yours?
What I find strange with your statement is that the Murci and the Gallardo should be so damn weak as you say, first I havnt seen anything about this, and if it where true I think there would be alot of info about it on the web.....
Or the other side of the story is that most are driven by posers and wannabes and they baby the cars the entire time of the lease.. ;)
And the few that did get broken, simply get paid for and fixed.. :)
As has been said before - you gotta pay to play :)
mindgam3
05-08-2005, 12:07 PM
I think you've (kinda?) hit the nail on the head for once RC45.
Enthusiasts who tune their cars extensively (whether it be yank trash or rice burners) are more likely to know how to look after their car and drive their cars.
Most exotica owner do have their cars as penis extensions as you rightly say and think that their just another bimmer they can hop in and drive and have no regards for the cars ability or looking after it - as the fact is, whether exotica or highly modded cars, both are in high state of tune and do need the correct treatment.
Either way, I know which one i'd prefer, faster or not....
^^^^^ Whoa - we almost connected there... ;)
And as far as "which to have, faster or not" - while there is something to be said for driving a recognizable exotic (Although most of the people you would be trying to impress wouldn't know an exotic if it ran over them on their way to their pathetic job anyway ;)) - but there is also something to be said for driving a relatively common sleeper car :P
Now - on the exotic thing, what is the real motivation for buying a car that is plastered on the bedroom walls of every 13 year old boy in the world... ? ;) :lol:
mindgam3
05-08-2005, 01:05 PM
Now - on the exotic thing, what is the real motivation for buying a car that is plastered on the bedroom walls of every 13 year old boy in the world... ? ;) :lol:
Heritage, history, soul, sound, sense of occasion, relative performance, relative exclusivity. And I think you answered your own question really; those enthusiasts who own exotica most likely had similar cars plastered over their walls when they were 13 - its a dream, its something to aspire to ;)
Although most 13 year olds now probably have rice on their walls, hardly insipational IMO :P
Most people would look at you in the same way they do someone in a ferrari or (at least over here where they're as rare as fezzas) - that with a "fast car" and a penis extension.... do you have a penis extension RC45? ;)
TeflonTron
05-08-2005, 01:40 PM
RC: I'm not going to quote everything that you said, but I will ask this: what is your obsession with Allan and his Lambo? You seem 100% unable to answer the question that I posed to you, and instead, by way of answer, you feel the need to suggest that he and I have some kind of love affair! It seems to me, and correct me if I'm wrong, but you obviously have some kind of issue with Allan, but kindly don't drag me into it.
No, I didn't just admit that Lambo's have weak drivetrains. What I did say, as you don't seem able to understand, was that rolling around in 2nd gear at 70MPH whilst waiting for the guy in the other car to start the race, isn't good for the car. I wouldn't say most, but I do agree that a large percentage of people who buy exotics do so for the ego boost, not because they like to drive fast. However, buying something and then running it hard simply so pimply teenagers can yell "OMG!! I watched a video of a Lambo smoke a Z06" is stupid. Being able to afford something, and desiring to spend money on maintaing that same thing, are not the same, and you'd be an idiot to think that.
What's up with the comment on the Veilside? Because it could beat a Diablo? Whoopti-do. The guy who owns the 6.0 likes to race, even if he loses, as long as he has fun. Why not race your 'Vette against a Diablo and film the sorry result?
But I have a problem with your comment that the driveline and clutches are notoriously weak as I havnt seen or heard anything supporting this so until you can come up with something supporting your claim I call BS on it.....cuz if they where notoriously weak it would be an issue......
Remember - I am a wore out old fucker who still thinks the last true super car was the f40.. ;)
So my "Lambo's are notorius for their weak clutches and drivelines" comments are more correctly based on the truth of the Countach and Diablo - which are not known for being the toughest out there.. :P
As far as the Murci and Gallardo - there are VW-mobiles so don't really count as exotics anyway... ;)
Most people would look at you in the same way they do someone in a ferrari or (at least over here where they're as rare as fezzas) - that with a "fast car" and a penis extension.... do you have a penis extension RC45? ;)
I am married - I barely have a use for a penis any more.. what the hell would I do with a penis extension... :P ;)
mindgam3
05-08-2005, 02:32 PM
I am married - I barely have a use for a penis any more..
unlucky ;)
RC: I'm not going to quote everything that you said
That's ok - I got you covered mate...
, but I will ask this: what is your obsession with Allan and his Lambo?
My obsession? You're the one quoting him as a valid source of opinion.. :)
You seem 100% unable to answer the question that I posed to you, and instead, by way of answer, you feel the need to suggest that he and I have some kind of love affair! It seems to me, and correct me if I'm wrong, but you obviously have some kind of issue with Allan, but kindly don't drag me into it.
He's all your's - I won't try come between you 2.. if that's what you are worried about.
No, I didn't just admit that Lambo's have weak drivetrains. What I did say, as you don't seem able to understand, was that rolling around in 2nd gear at 70MPH whilst waiting for the guy in the other car to start the race, isn't good for the car.
Isn't good for the car? How the hell else are you going to extract the performance that was engineered into it, if you don't use it the way the engineers intended it to be used? Have you ever seen the videos of Valentino Balboni?
You don't get a car tp deliver on it's potential by lumbering around in 3rd.. you stomp on it and make it go fast.
If you are a half decent driver, you know what rpm/gear/speed you would need to be in, and at the correct moment, down shift and go.
Period.
Anything else is being a pussy-arsed wet noodle :)
I wouldn't say most, but I do agree that a large percentage of people who buy exotics do so for the ego boost, not because they like to drive fast.
You can go ahead and say most - because it is most.
However, buying something and then running it hard simply so pimply teenagers can yell "OMG!! I watched a video of a Lambo smoke a Z06" is stupid.
But wait a minute - that would seem to be the motivation of Allan Lambo and his buddies --- right? ;)
Being able to afford something, and desiring to spend money on maintaing that same thing, are not the same, and you'd be an idiot to think that.
In other words, just because you flaunt your wealth with $300,000 cars and $100,000 wrist watches when you need neither - you are really just being a snob and flaunting your wealth - aka penis extension.. :P
What's up with the comment on the Veilside? Because it could beat a Diablo?
No Einstein - because these modded cars can cost upwards of $150,000 after all the materials and labour are accounte for - in other words - these owners CAN afford some exotica, but prefer to flaunt their wealth by buying/building super expensive money pits that will return nothing - expect fun and speed. :)
In otherword, like Jay leno - (doesn't he think Ferraris are over rated), they are TRUE auto enthusiasts - not snobs.. ;)
Whoopti-do. The guy who owns the 6.0 likes to race, even if he loses, as long as he has fun. Why not race your 'Vette against a Diablo and film the sorry result?
Why not? Because they all back down, or are rolling from 3rd gear so I know the jackass behind the wheel can't drive worth a shit, and probably only has 100 miles behind the wheel of the car, all from driving down to the Louis Vuitton boutique.. ;)
The day a well driven Lambo shows up - that's the day we go - head to head camera's rolling.. :P
TeflonTron
05-08-2005, 02:42 PM
"I'm married. That's what married means. It means you sleep together, but you can't get none" - Martain Lawrence, Bad Boys
Here is a perfect example of why you should get out use, and learn to drive your "exotica" instead of just cruising around in 3rd gear to "save the drivetrain"... :P
http://www.big-boys.com/articles/badredcar.html
TeflonTron
05-09-2005, 11:00 AM
RC: you own a Z06, right? Stock? If so, we both know that if both drivers are equal, you'd get your ass handed to you. There happens to be a video of Allan walking a 'vette like it was no thing...
As for Allan not being a valid sourse of opinion? Well, he may be an arrogant asshole, but you come across as an ignorant one. So, you don't like him, and think that he's not a nice person? So what does this have to do with his ability to drive, or his opinion that his clutch has never given way? I dislike lots of people, but respect their opinions if I know them to be a knowledgable source.
mindgam3
05-09-2005, 11:38 AM
Here is a perfect example of why you should get out use, and learn to drive your "exotica" instead of just cruising around in 3rd gear to "save the drivetrain"... :P
http://www.big-boys.com/articles/badredcar.html
If i remember correctly that was a journalist who was showing off.... was posted a while back ;)
lol, while i was at the same site ;)
http://www.big-boys.com/articles/corvetteblow.html
RC: you own a Z06, right? Stock? If so, we both know that if both drivers are equal, you'd get your ass handed to you. There happens to be a video of Allan walking a 'vette like it was no thing...
Yes I daily drive a Z06.
You seem to be just as dillusional as the rest.
In a stock Z06 vs stock SV scenario there will be no walking anyone with either car. You seem to be unaware that stock for stock the SV and Z06 post the same 0-60, the same 1/4 mile and upto 130mph or so will run neck and neck - and then only begin to roll away.. from a stock Z06.
0-60 4s
1/4 mile 12s
60-0 100ft
The Diablo is a portly 3400lbs, the Z06 a svelte 3100lbs
I know you would like to believe that the Z06 is not faster than the F360, matches th F360CS, beats a stock Diablo and runs with a stock SV - but these are the facts.
AllanLambo's car is not stock - and if I ran against his car in a modded nitrous Z he would not be walking me in that race either.
I wish all you bench racers would actually get with the program once in a while - the Z06 is a fast car, much faster than most people would care to admit.
:)
TeflonTron
05-09-2005, 12:26 PM
Well, a stock SV runs:
0-60 in 3.8
0-100 in 8.8
0-150 in 18.5
And I'm sure that these are numbers that the Z06 can't live with.
I never said that the Z06 is a slow car, as I'm perfectly aware of what it can do, but the fact is that it's a slower car than the SV. How about a race from 0-200MPH, just for fun? ;)
If, and I said if, the SV had it's gearing lowered to a point where it's top speed was the same as the 'Vette's, then it would walk. We both know that you get what you put in: the Diablo is a faster car, both in acceleration and top speed, and Lamborghini is a much more exclusive mark, but that comes at a cost. Is an Armani T-Shirt worth $200? Maybe, maybe not, but that's the cost of entry to the club.
*PS: glad to hear you finally admit that Allan actually owns the car. I guess you'd need 700BHP, give or take, to match him in a 'vette.
Well, a stock SV runs:
0-60 in 3.8
0-100 in 8.8
0-150 in 18.5
THose are ideal numbers - which average owners will not see. The few Diablo's I have come across on the street tried and got left behind by a couple car lengths.
And I'm sure that these are numbers that the Z06 can't live with.
Don't you get it yet? Those ARE numbers that the Z06 can live with - do you know how much skill a 3.8s 0-60 would take in a Diablo? A lot more than the average Diablo owner has.
The will be running more like 4.5s, much like what the average Z06 owner can manage - the Z is just that much easier to drive fast.
Both cars cover 1/4 of a mile 12s - with the SV running about 118mph and the Z06 right behind it at about 116mph - that means after 12s they are at the essentially the same speed, having covered essentially the same distance.
The cars are evenly matched - get over it already. Next you will be trying to disclaim the 7m56s Nurburgring laptime of the Z06.
I never said that the Z06 is a slow car, as I'm perfectly aware of what it can do, but the fact is that it's a slower car than the SV. How about a race from 0-200MPH, just for fun? ;)
What's the point - it tops 5th gear at 6600rpm at 174mph - and in EPA ULEV format won't pull 6th gear - stock.
You seem to gloss right over the fact that AllanLambo's car is not stock - and that once you do intake, headers, NOS and associated injector mods to either the hz6 or the SV you are opening up a huge amount of extra potential for each car...
But they still remain essentially the same performance wise below 180mph.
Having said that I doubt you would even have the balls to run 200mh on the street - in either car :)
If, and I said if, the SV had it's gearing lowered to a point where it's top speed was the same as the 'Vette's, then it would walk.
The SV had it's gearing lowered? Then it would have zero traction...
We both know that you get what you put in: the Diablo is a faster car, both in acceleration and top speed, and Lamborghini is a much more exclusive mark, but that comes at a cost. Is an Armani T-Shirt worth $200? Maybe, maybe not, but that's the cost of entry to the club.
The Diablo is faster on paper - barely - and on the streets equaled by the Z06 - put both cars on a road course and the Diablo will be left behind like a day old bagel.
*PS: glad to hear you finally admit that Allan actually owns the car. I guess you'd need 700BHP, give or take, to match him in a 'vette.
Allegedly.
TeflonTron
05-09-2005, 01:57 PM
RC45: For all of the comments, back and forth between you and I, I'd like you to know that I'm not trying to bust your balls, just pointing out what I perceive to be truths.
You believe the Z06 to be the match of a Diablo SV in the real world, I disagree: such is life, and no harm done. I still disagree that the Z06, with a good driver, will match the SV with an equal driver, but that's my opinion: your opinion is different.
Oh, what is the 0-150 of a stock Z06, by the way?
Lastly, I'm piqued as to your opinions on Allan. After our polite banter back and forth, would you do me a small favour? Drop me a PM outlining why you subscribe to the belief that Allan is, shall I say, full of shit?
Be cool, be safe.
I am sure I have no issue with opposing opinions... :P -- I may not like em - but folks are free to have em.
Let's put it this way - on paper the SV is what the Diablo should have been all along - not the 13s, 0-60 in 5s car it was until the SV hit the road.
So perhaps my opinions are jaded by my encounters with "run of the mill" Diablos. Which are not as quick as people remember.
The Z06 0 - 150 should be about 22 or 23 seconds or so - right up with the GT3 or Viper and a bus length or 2 behind the SV.. ;)
Would I love to have a Diablo? In a heart beat - even if it is slower than my Z.. :P - just to have the glorious V12 to romp on.
My all time favourite movie opening sequences are still CannonBall Run I and II with the Countach wailing across the high desert.
I cannot afford a Lambo at this time (I could probably swing the purchase - but I don't know how well they are for sleeping in..), so I enjoy the piss out of my Z.
Would I want it for snob brag value? No - I don't hang around in those circles - if I was a zillionaire then I would, and I would need to throw money at my possessions to one up my neighbour... aka penis extension.. see AllanLambo in Webster's... :)
BTW - if his SV was so quick - why did he feel the need to modify it? Makes you wonder......
TeflonTron
05-09-2005, 03:14 PM
Teehee! 5 seconds at 150MPH is not "a bus length or two"!! It doesn't matter though.
Behold, the one called Allan:
http://img123.echo.cx/img123/696/lamborghiniallan4pi.jpg
What isn't there to love? :wink:
JiggaStyles09
05-09-2005, 03:18 PM
(I could probably swing the purchase - but I don't know how well they are for sleeping in..)
i hear they are actually not too bad now that they are made by audi. :wink:
SFDMALEX
05-09-2005, 03:18 PM
Really who gives a shit which is faster?
A suped up Supra or a Mustang beats the stock Murc. Fine.
A suped up Murc beats the fuck out of everything.
This stock Vs modded argument is useless.
We all know what a suped up Porker and a Ferrari can do. Look at Koenig look at Ruf.............................
Lastly I could not care less if a dick in a Civic beat me in my Lambo...
As for the penis extension..........you guys are a sad bunch :lol:
Teehee! 5 seconds at 150MPH is not "a bus length or two"!! It doesn't matter though.
Now you are sounding like the Guardian... :roll:
It's not like the one car is at 150 while the other is at 10, the there would only be about 5mph in it at the time - making the gap a lot smaller than you would think.
BTW - what a sad shallow life you must lead if you are measured by "your SV on the Net".. ;)
Really who gives a shit which is faster?
A suped up Supra or a Mustang beats the stock Murc. Fine.
A suped up Murc beats the fuck out of everything.
Well - the suped up Gallardo pretty much lost to everything in the Car & Driver 10,000hp shootout.. ;)
TeflonTron
05-09-2005, 03:26 PM
Well, he may be a cunt, but he has a banging, sexy car! :lol:
T-Bird
05-09-2005, 03:27 PM
wow this is funny as hell A $35k Cobra and at the most $20k can make it hit the low 01's if not 9's I've seen it many of times and they can beat the living shit out of their drivetrains and not have to spend $50k to rebuild it. So for the price of a down payment on a Lambo I can have a car with a backseat that will go faster and I will personally enjoy more.
Well, he may be a cunt, but he has a banging, sexy car! :lol:
But there is no need to be a prick just because you drive a Diablo... our own Jabba is testament to that.
You probably find AllanLambo wouldn't be much without his car.. :)
TeflonTron
05-09-2005, 04:24 PM
Well, he may be a cunt, but he has a banging, sexy car! :lol:
But there is no need to be a prick just because you drive a Diablo... our own Jabba is testament to that.
You probably find AllanLambo wouldn't be much without his car.. :)
Oh, I agree 100%. He's just like my uncle in that respect. My uncle took a purple 911 Turbo S for a test drive a few years ago, and the only reason why he didn't buy it was because "no-one stopped and stared" at him as he went past! He got a Cherry Red Jaguar XKR drop-top instead!
As for Allan: I have to confess that I do like him. I'm not in to all of these Rappers throwing their bling in your face, but there is someone about Allan that I like, although it may be more about the car than him!!
As for Allan: I have to confess that I do like him. I'm not in to all of these Rappers throwing their bling in your face, but there is someone about Allan that I like, although it may be more about the car than him!!
I knew it... it's spring... and love is in the air... :P --- oohhh to be young and in love again.. hehe ;)
TeflonTron
05-09-2005, 05:08 PM
As for Allan: I have to confess that I do like him. I'm not in to all of these Rappers throwing their bling in your face, but there is someone about Allan that I like, although it may be more about the car than him!!
I knew it... it's spring... and love is in the air... :P --- oohhh to be young and in love again.. hehe ;)
Please don't tell my Fiancé!! :wink:
SFDMALEX
05-09-2005, 10:17 PM
Allanlambo is a silly cunt, a fucking dick with too much bloody money...did I say that he is a fucking dick? Oh I did, well Ill tell you again allan is a dick.
Check this out, allan, the notorious pimp!
http://www.is-mad.com/upload/userfiles/SFDMALEX/alpimp.jpg
TeflonTron
05-10-2005, 07:23 AM
Allanlambo is a silly cunt, a fucking dick with too much bloody money...did I say that he is a fucking dick? Oh I did, well Ill tell you again allan is a dick.
Check this out, allan, the notorious pimp!
http://www.is-mad.com/upload/userfiles/SFDMALEX/alpimp.jpg
LMFAO!!
Yeah, he is a bit of a dick, but he's always been cool with me (that's why I want his babies, RC!!)
Doesn't he hang around on a Ferrari forum as well, and spend all of his time talking about his Lamborghini? If so, that's priceless.
hemi_fan
05-14-2005, 12:32 AM
Yeah, at a drag-strip I bet a Murci runs low 12s? Thats where I'd guess it is... So judging from that, a 400rwhp mustang should have no trouble with it at the strip. Traction becomes a very minimal problem on a RWD car even if you only have Drag-Radials on it... slicks and RWD becomes a traction advantage over AWD because of the power leaching. Gotta remember... Mustangs are King of the drag-strip ;)
T-Bird
05-14-2005, 12:38 AM
Yeah, at a drag-strip I bet a Murci runs low 12s? Thats where I'd guess it is... So judging from that, a 400rwhp mustang should have no trouble with it at the strip. Traction becomes a very minimal problem on a RWD car even if you only have Drag-Radials on it... slicks and RWD becomes a traction advantage over AWD because of the power leaching. Gotta remember... Mustangs are King of the drag-strip ;)
That and the fact that you can be at optimal RPM and drop the clutch and not worry about throwing halfshafts out the side of the car
sentra_dude
05-14-2005, 01:14 AM
BTW - if his SV was so quick - why did he feel the need to modify it? Makes you wonder......
:lol:
Are you a car guy?! Why does anyone want to make their car faster? Why do guys with 600hp Vipers want to spend another 10 grand and make it a 800hp Viper? Why do guys with bikes that run 9s 1/4mi stock want to modify them? They are too slow? I'm pretty sure 9s isn't slow. Think about it, its never enough...I'm sure all the Z06 owners out their who modified their Vettes did it because they were worried about how their car 'wasn't so quick' in stock form. :lol: :P
allanlambo
05-15-2005, 03:51 AM
I am sure I have no issue with opposing opinions... :P -- I may not like em - but folks are free to have em.
Let's put it this way - on paper the SV is what the Diablo should have been all along - not the 13s, 0-60 in 5s car it was until the SV hit the road.
So perhaps my opinions are jaded by my encounters with "run of the mill" Diablos. Which are not as quick as people remember.
The Z06 0 - 150 should be about 22 or 23 seconds or so - right up with the GT3 or Viper and a bus length or 2 behind the SV.. ;)
Would I love to have a Diablo? In a heart beat - even if it is slower than my Z.. :P - just to have the glorious V12 to romp on.
My all time favourite movie opening sequences are still CannonBall Run I and II with the Countach wailing across the high desert.
I cannot afford a Lambo at this time (I could probably swing the purchase - but I don't know how well they are for sleeping in..), so I enjoy the piss out of my Z.
Would I want it for snob brag value? No - I don't hang around in those circles - if I was a zillionaire then I would, and I would need to throw money at my possessions to one up my neighbour... aka penis extension.. see AllanLambo in Webster's... :)
BTW - if his SV was so quick - why did he feel the need to modify it? Makes you wonder......
Ahhh, spoken like a true moron. So the early Diablos ran 13's and 5 sec to 60? Thats funny. Car and Driver turned a 12.50 @ 125MPH, with 0-150mph in 18.5 seconds. Approx 5 seconds faster than your beloved Z, even though road tests have shown the Z to be as high as 25 seconds. Next in the Roadtest of a early Diablo vs as F40, the Diablo turned a 12.6@119mph. And lets not forget, this was in a car that was produced in 1991, Not 2005.
As for your opinion on a Heads cam z06 beating a murcielago easily, you may want to take a look at this:
The players:
2001 Lamborghini Diablo 6.0 Mods, (Rear cats bypass - rear muffler delete - K&N Filters, 93 Pump gas) Everything else bone stock.
2003 Z06 346" Motor, almost everything possible done to this car for a stock displacment, Heads & Cams, Exhausts tuning, the whole nine yards, puts down 560-570 CRANK HP
Here is video and account of the races by the Lambo driver:
Here is the write up of the races:
Here is the Video of my Diablo 6.0 running against a modded Z06.
http://69.93.172.236/2001Diablo2003Z06.wmv
Race 1:
30 MPH roll, we ran from a set marker, i gave this to the Z06 by no more than 1 foot.
Race 2:
I missed 2nd gear (Good job i was in the L/H lane, otherwise i'll have been toast)
Race 3:
30 MPH roll, Lambo won this, appears to be a good car or so ahead.
Race 4:
30 MPH roll, Z06 Missed 2nd gear
Race 5:
30 MPH roll, Lambo won this race by a car length, maybe a bit less.
Race 6:
50-60 MPH roll, Z06 got me on this one by a car or so.
A great night all in all, every had a good time, with each run been very close!
Hope you like.
Kurt.
Another scenario, i can show you video of is my Sv, with only exhaust and air filters, racing an 04 Z06 from 30-140mph. It was very close, im only ahead of the Z06 at 140mph by approx 20 car lengths. :lol:
So preach the gospel of the Z06 elsehwere. Inmo, it is a boring, dime a dozen automobile. Good bang for the buck, with no style whatsoever. You want a cool inexpensive car, buy a Viper.
allanlambo
05-15-2005, 03:56 AM
As for Allan: I have to confess that I do like him. I'm not in to all of these Rappers throwing their bling in your face, but there is someone about Allan that I like, although it may be more about the car than him!!
I knew it... it's spring... and love is in the air... :P --- oohhh to be young and in love again.. hehe ;)
Damn dude, i just noticed your age. Now i see why you are such an angry man in denial. You are older than me, and still driving a Vette. That sucks. Remember i too had a Vettes, including a brand new ZR-1. But i had those in my early 20's, when i was broke.
T-Bird
05-15-2005, 04:50 AM
As for Allan: I have to confess that I do like him. I'm not in to all of these Rappers throwing their bling in your face, but there is someone about Allan that I like, although it may be more about the car than him!!
I knew it... it's spring... and love is in the air... :P --- oohhh to be young and in love again.. hehe ;)
Damn dude, i just noticed your age. Now i see why you are such an angry man in denial. You are older than me, and still driving a Vette. That sucks. Remember i too had a Vettes, including a brand new ZR-1. But i had those in my early 20's, when i was broke.
You know what's the most pathetic thing about you?
Beside the fact your a little winny bitch? You own an H2 you poser!
I know quite a few people that have waaay cheaper and nicer IMO cars than your Diablo that could walk it all day long atleast Jabba doesn't go around saying he has the fastest thing on 4 wheels and that he's god's gift to the world. I would buy a Z06 anyday over a Diablo straight up.
saadie
05-15-2005, 05:00 AM
He got a Cherry Red Jaguar XKR drop-top instead!
so he hit his mid life crisis huh ... :mrgreen:
As for Allan: I have to confess that I do like him. I'm not in to all of these Rappers throwing their bling in your face, but there is someone about Allan that I like, although it may be more about the car than him!!
its deffinetly not the rims ... 8) 8)
maybe its the nos ... but WTF would anyone wanna strap nos on one of the greatest supercars ever created .... :D :mrgreen:
its so lame ...
As for Allan: I have to confess that I do like him. I'm not in to all of these Rappers throwing their bling in your face, but there is someone about Allan that I like, although it may be more about the car than him!!
I knew it... it's spring... and love is in the air... :P --- oohhh to be young and in love again.. hehe ;)
Damn dude, i just noticed your age. Now i see why you are such an angry man in denial. You are older than me, and still driving a Vette. That sucks. Remember i too had a Vettes, including a brand new ZR-1. But i had those in my early 20's, when i was broke.
Didn't take long for the roaches to crawl out after the lights went out... and no need to bore us about your exploits spending daddy's money as you were growing up.
allanlambo
05-15-2005, 02:57 PM
As for Allan: I have to confess that I do like him. I'm not in to all of these Rappers throwing their bling in your face, but there is someone about Allan that I like, although it may be more about the car than him!!
I knew it... it's spring... and love is in the air... :P --- oohhh to be young and in love again.. hehe ;)
Damn dude, i just noticed your age. Now i see why you are such an angry man in denial. You are older than me, and still driving a Vette. That sucks. Remember i too had a Vettes, including a brand new ZR-1. But i had those in my early 20's, when i was broke.
You know what's the most pathetic thing about you?
Beside the fact your a little winny bitch? You own an H2 you poser!
I know quite a few people that have waaay cheaper and nicer IMO cars than your Diablo that could walk it all day long atleast Jabba doesn't go around saying he has the fastest thing on 4 wheels and that he's god's gift to the world. I would buy a Z06 anyday over a Diablo straight up.
Judging by your choice of rides, i doubt youll ever be in the position of even being able to get a test drive in a Z06.
allanlambo
05-15-2005, 03:00 PM
As for Allan: I have to confess that I do like him. I'm not in to all of these Rappers throwing their bling in your face, but there is someone about Allan that I like, although it may be more about the car than him!!
I knew it... it's spring... and love is in the air... :P --- oohhh to be young and in love again.. hehe ;)
Damn dude, i just noticed your age. Now i see why you are such an angry man in denial. You are older than me, and still driving a Vette. That sucks. Remember i too had a Vettes, including a brand new ZR-1. But i had those in my early 20's, when i was broke.
Didn't take long for the roaches to crawl out after the lights went out... and no need to bore us about your exploits spending daddy's money as you were growing up.
Daddys money? You wish. See it is possible to make money, on your own, not be be content knowing people drive cars wi=orth more than your home.
You try to belittle others who have more than you, but yet, what are you doing here, other than trying to exploit your POS Z06. Remember, you will always be low man on the totem pole! Better get back to work, your next 0% interest 10 year financing payment is due on that POS shortly.
T-Bird
05-15-2005, 03:44 PM
As for Allan: I have to confess that I do like him. I'm not in to all of these Rappers throwing their bling in your face, but there is someone about Allan that I like, although it may be more about the car than him!!
I knew it... it's spring... and love is in the air... :P --- oohhh to be young and in love again.. hehe ;)
Damn dude, i just noticed your age. Now i see why you are such an angry man in denial. You are older than me, and still driving a Vette. That sucks. Remember i too had a Vettes, including a brand new ZR-1. But i had those in my early 20's, when i was broke.
You know what's the most pathetic thing about you?
Beside the fact your a little winny bitch? You own an H2 you poser!
I know quite a few people that have waaay cheaper and nicer IMO cars than your Diablo that could walk it all day long atleast Jabba doesn't go around saying he has the fastest thing on 4 wheels and that he's god's gift to the world. I would buy a Z06 anyday over a Diablo straight up.
Judging by your choice of rides, i doubt youll ever be in the position of even being able to get a test drive in a Z06.
I've driven 4 in my life ass hole so think before you talk I would rather have my Pathfinder than your Tahoe oops I mean tiny cock truck H2.
I'm only 20 you dumb fuck I'm still in school so that I can make a living and have a life I'm proud of and not look back someday and realize I was a prick.
As for Allan: I have to confess that I do like him. I'm not in to all of these Rappers throwing their bling in your face, but there is someone about Allan that I like, although it may be more about the car than him!!
I knew it... it's spring... and love is in the air... :P --- oohhh to be young and in love again.. hehe ;)
Damn dude, i just noticed your age. Now i see why you are such an angry man in denial. You are older than me, and still driving a Vette. That sucks. Remember i too had a Vettes, including a brand new ZR-1. But i had those in my early 20's, when i was broke.
Didn't take long for the roaches to crawl out after the lights went out... and no need to bore us about your exploits spending daddy's money as you were growing up.
Daddys money? You wish. See it is possible to make money, on your own, not be be content knowing people drive cars wi=orth more than your home.
You try to belittle others who have more than you, but yet, what are you doing here, other than trying to exploit your POS Z06. Remember, you will always be low man on the totem pole! Better get back to work, your next 0% interest 10 year financing payment is due on that POS shortly.
LOL - if only you were half as successful as you claim and would have people believe you are - you wouldn't be driving 3 used cars now would you.. :)
You are just an average joe with 2 "nice cars" (both worth less than half of what they should be, because of the rice/ghetto mods you did) that is cursed with not only a small penis, but an even more fragile ego.
:)
In short - a loser.. :)
Have a nice day.
allanlambo
05-15-2005, 05:03 PM
As for Allan: I have to confess that I do like him. I'm not in to all of these Rappers throwing their bling in your face, but there is someone about Allan that I like, although it may be more about the car than him!!
I knew it... it's spring... and love is in the air... :P --- oohhh to be young and in love again.. hehe ;)
Damn dude, i just noticed your age. Now i see why you are such an angry man in denial. You are older than me, and still driving a Vette. That sucks. Remember i too had a Vettes, including a brand new ZR-1. But i had those in my early 20's, when i was broke.
You know what's the most pathetic thing about you?
Beside the fact your a little winny bitch? You own an H2 you poser!
I know quite a few people that have waaay cheaper and nicer IMO cars than your Diablo that could walk it all day long atleast Jabba doesn't go around saying he has the fastest thing on 4 wheels and that he's god's gift to the world. I would buy a Z06 anyday over a Diablo straight up.
Judging by your choice of rides, i doubt youll ever be in the position of even being able to get a test drive in a Z06.
I've driven 4 in my life ass hole so think before you talk I would rather have my Pathfinder than your Tahoe oops I mean tiny cock truck H2.
I'm only 20 you dumb fuck I'm still in school so that I can make a living and have a life I'm proud of and not look back someday and realize I was a prick.
Pathfinder? :) Your right, ill sell my H2 and buy 5 Pathfinders.
allanlambo
05-15-2005, 05:07 PM
As for Allan: I have to confess that I do like him. I'm not in to all of these Rappers throwing their bling in your face, but there is someone about Allan that I like, although it may be more about the car than him!!
I knew it... it's spring... and love is in the air... :P --- oohhh to be young and in love again.. hehe ;)
Damn dude, i just noticed your age. Now i see why you are such an angry man in denial. You are older than me, and still driving a Vette. That sucks. Remember i too had a Vettes, including a brand new ZR-1. But i had those in my early 20's, when i was broke.
Didn't take long for the roaches to crawl out after the lights went out... and no need to bore us about your exploits spending daddy's money as you were growing up.
Daddys money? You wish. See it is possible to make money, on your own, not be be content knowing people drive cars wi=orth more than your home.
You try to belittle others who have more than you, but yet, what are you doing here, other than trying to exploit your POS Z06. Remember, you will always be low man on the totem pole! Better get back to work, your next 0% interest 10 year financing payment is due on that POS shortly.
LOL - if only you were half as successful as you claim and would have people believe you are - you wouldn't be driving 3 used cars now would you.. :)
You are just an average joe with 2 "nice cars" (both worth less than half of what they should be, because of the rice/ghetto mods you did) that is cursed with not only a small penis, but an even more fragile ego.
:)
In short - a loser.. :)
Have a nice day.
LOL, Half as successfull as i claim would still be 10X as successfull as you.
As for USED cars, Diablo bought new, Lotus Esprit purchased new, car still only has 100 miles on it, Hummer purchased new. As for my ghetto mods, well i guess the ghetto lovers in your neck of the woods really like them as the latest issue of Modified Luxury and Exotics has a 10 page spread on my car, its 4th magazine review. See, so i actually do a service to the poor and pathetic of the world, such as yourself.
TeflonTron
05-15-2005, 05:14 PM
RC45: I fail to see what parts on Allan's Diablo are "Ghetto" or "Rice"! I mean, air intake, custom exhaust and chromed 19" wheels are all functional, and offer performance benefits to boot.
Allan: you have any new videos of your Great White Shark? :wink:
I've already seen it walking the Z06 (teehee)
T-Bird
05-15-2005, 05:19 PM
See that's it right there Allan you just proved to yourself that it's all about the price right? saying you can buy 5 Pathfinders for the price of 1 Tahoe (God I gotta stop doing that) I mean H2. Sometimes money isn't everything and you need to get past your insanely overinflated ego or you are gonna die a very pathetic old man. Also just so you know My Pathfinder was about $29K new so you can't buy 2 of them for the price you would get for that giant ugly ass Ghetto Box that snap's tie rods (do you know what those are?) like they are plastic whenever they try to play with the only HUMMER the H1, Why didn't you buy one of them atleast they are a real truck, was it because you blew all your money on NOS and buying peoples friendships?
T-Bird
05-15-2005, 05:21 PM
RC45: I fail to see what parts on Allan's Diablo are "Ghetto" or "Rice"! I mean, air intake, custom exhaust and chromed 19" wheels are all functional, and offer performance benefits to boot.
Allan: you have any new videos of your Great White Shark? :wink:
I've already seen it walking the Z06 (teehee)
How do giant heavier than stock Chrome rims offer any performance gains? And I'm willing to bet that Exhaust was a catalog ordered one but I may be wrong about that part.
RC45: I fail to see what parts on Allan's Diablo are "Ghetto" or "Rice"! I mean, air intake, custom exhaust and chromed 19" wheels are all functional, and offer performance benefits to boot.
Allan: you have any new videos of your Great White Shark? :wink:
I've already seen it walking the Z06 (teehee)
Evidently you and allanlambo are the same person.
Either that or you have waited yourwhole life to worship the likes of this guy.
Have at it.
As for USED cars, Diablo bought new, Lotus Esprit purchased new, car still only has 100 miles on it, Hummer purchased new. As for my ghetto mods, well i guess the ghetto lovers in your neck of the woods really like them as the latest issue of Modified Luxury and Exotics has a 10 page spread on my car, its 4th magazine review. See, so i actually do a service to the poor and pathetic of the world, such as yourself.
In other words you used to be in the money (shortly after you cashed in your trust fund) but have had no decent self-made success since then - other than magaine articles and internet videos for 13 year olds to wank off over.
Because if you had really been in the cash, you would be driving some nice new flashy 2004 or 2005 Lambo. Not trying your best to show off our old cars - I guess you go to all the cool clubs to. :roll:
Yep - you really do have a really fulfilling life.
Now f off and go have it else where.
allanlambo
05-15-2005, 08:55 PM
See that's it right there Allan you just proved to yourself that it's all about the price right? saying you can buy 5 Pathfinders for the price of 1 Tahoe (God I gotta stop doing that) I mean H2. Sometimes money isn't everything and you need to get past your insanely overinflated ego or you are gonna die a very pathetic old man. Also just so you know My Pathfinder was about $29K new so you can't buy 2 of them for the price you would get for that giant ugly ass Ghetto Box that snap's tie rods (do you know what those are?) like they are plastic whenever they try to play with the only HUMMER the H1, Why didn't you buy one of them atleast they are a real truck, was it because you blew all your money on NOS and buying peoples friendships?
See, small minded people think small. When you buy a car, you think value. When i buy a car, i think i want everything. Thats why my H2 stickered over 100K.
I understand your way of thinking though, its easier to belittle what you will never afford. That way it doesnt make you feel as bad for not having it. in my world, it would be a sentance worse than death to drive a Thunderbird. When i was 20, i was driving a Ferrari 328, and had already purchased my first investment property, all from an Auto business i had started when i was 14.
allanlambo
05-15-2005, 08:57 PM
RC45: I fail to see what parts on Allan's Diablo are "Ghetto" or "Rice"! I mean, air intake, custom exhaust and chromed 19" wheels are all functional, and offer performance benefits to boot.
Allan: you have any new videos of your Great White Shark? :wink:
I've already seen it walking the Z06 (teehee)
How do giant heavier than stock Chrome rims offer any performance gains? And I'm willing to bet that Exhaust was a catalog ordered one but I may be wrong about that part.
The wheels on my SV are factory chromed rims. But i did replace them 6 months ago with 19 inch Lowenharts shod with 355-25-19 Pirellis. My exhaust was completely hand fabricated specificly for my car.
allanlambo
05-15-2005, 09:08 PM
RC45: I fail to see what parts on Allan's Diablo are "Ghetto" or "Rice"! I mean, air intake, custom exhaust and chromed 19" wheels are all functional, and offer performance benefits to boot.
Allan: you have any new videos of your Great White Shark? :wink:
I've already seen it walking the Z06 (teehee)
Evidently you and allanlambo are the same person.
Either that or you have waited yourwhole life to worship the likes of this guy.
Have at it.
As for USED cars, Diablo bought new, Lotus Esprit purchased new, car still only has 100 miles on it, Hummer purchased new. As for my ghetto mods, well i guess the ghetto lovers in your neck of the woods really like them as the latest issue of Modified Luxury and Exotics has a 10 page spread on my car, its 4th magazine review. See, so i actually do a service to the poor and pathetic of the world, such as yourself.
In other words you used to be in the money (shortly after you cashed in your trust fund) but have had no decent self-made success since then - other than magaine articles and internet videos for 13 year olds to wank off over.
Because if you had really been in the cash, you would be driving some nice new flashy 2004 or 2005 Lambo. Not trying your best to show off our old cars - I guess you go to all the cool clubs to. :roll:
Yep - you really do have a really fulfilling life.
Now f off and go have it else where.
I can comfortably gaurentee you that i make more yearly, than youll make in your lifetime. You think i post my car up for 13 year olds? Thats funny, i usually hang out on the Lambo boards, with other owners. I rarely post on this board, only browse the pictures. You on the other hand, are a regular poster on a board with teenagers, trying to get some sort of self worth by trying to overinflate your POS Z06 and undermine other serious cars. You post incorrect data to try and support your stupid claims, and then belittle ownership of things far superior to anything you own, or will ever own. What you do, would be the equivalent of me going to the Mclaren F1 owners board and telling them my Sv is superior to their cars because i can make it faster and the Mclaren is overpriced. I know my place on the totem pole, you dont.
Lastly, the reason i dont own a new Murcielago, or a Gallardo, is because i am on the list to get the special edition Murcielago R-GT street, one of only 25 being made, and then ill also pick up the Gallardo SV. I buy the special edition models, just like my Esprit is one of only 33. Its kind of like you, you bought the special edition Z06, 1 of only 999,999,999 made this year. :shock:
T-Bird
05-15-2005, 09:08 PM
See that's it right there Allan you just proved to yourself that it's all about the price right? saying you can buy 5 Pathfinders for the price of 1 Tahoe (God I gotta stop doing that) I mean H2. Sometimes money isn't everything and you need to get past your insanely overinflated ego or you are gonna die a very pathetic old man. Also just so you know My Pathfinder was about $29K new so you can't buy 2 of them for the price you would get for that giant ugly ass Ghetto Box that snap's tie rods (do you know what those are?) like they are plastic whenever they try to play with the only HUMMER the H1, Why didn't you buy one of them atleast they are a real truck, was it because you blew all your money on NOS and buying peoples friendships?
See, small minded people think small. When you buy a car, you think value. When i buy a car, i think i want everything. Thats why my H2 stickered over 100K.
I understand your way of thinking though, its easier to belittle what you will never afford. That way it doesnt make you feel as bad for not having it. in my world, it would be a sentance worse than death to drive a Thunderbird. When i was 20, i was driving a Ferrari 328, and had already purchased my first investment property, all from an Auto business i had started when i was 14.
So I will never be able to afford an H2 is that what you are saying? How would you know what I will be able to afford later in my life just because I don't already flash around town in some fucking showboat Tahoe. I'm going to school right now. Atleast I will be doing something I love and making a good living at it.
Oh and how the fuck did an H2 cost over $100k was there a $35k markup?
in my world,
Listen to this twit - "in his world" -- this is why people flick allanlambos from their shoes when they step in a fresh one.
it would be a sentance worse than death to drive a Thunderbird.
Really? strange how you haven't had anew car since your first trust fund check was cashed.
When i was 20, i was driving a Ferrari 328, and had already purchased my first investment property, all from an Auto business i had started when i was 14.
That's right - what was I thinking - you are lower than fresh dogshit - you're a glorified car salesman - now that's an achievement.
Seeing that people in the car industry are the most notorious and infamous liars on the face of the planet, I am sure we know how much value to place on anything you say :)
See, small minded people think small. When you buy a car, you think value. When i buy a car, i think i want everything. Thats why my H2 stickered over 100K.
What kind of idiot would drop $100K on a H2... when you could buy a Cayenne and have a something to brag about.
I can comfortably gaurentee you that i make more yearly, than youll make in your lifetime.
You seem to spend an aweful lot of time defending this "income" of yours - are you the most insecure person in the world?
You think i post my car up for 13 year olds? Thats funny, i usually hang out on the Lambo boards, with other owners. I rarely post on this board, only browse the pictures. You on the other hand, are a regular poster on a board with teenagers,
Regulars here are more twenty and thirty somethigns than teens.
trying to get some sort of self worth by trying to overinflate your POS Z06 and undermine other serious cars.
I am more than my car - you one the other hand woudl be nothing without your car.. and it's the image yiou try so hard to portay.
You post incorrect data to try and support your stupid claims,
Nope - the data posted is directly from the same magazines you claim to have numbers from - difference is I type what they published - you seem to randomly generate shit and then claim it's theirs.
and then belittle ownership of things far superior to anything you own,
Well - you are a prime example of someone who buys "expensiv stuff" to look good - beacuse without you "expensive stuff" people would pay so littlwe attention to you, they would be less likely to piss in your mouth, even if your teeth wre on fire than give you the time of day.
:)
I know my place on the totem pole, you dont.
Haha - totem ploe - you really fancy yourself as a Donald Trump-type, don't you? Quite pathetic really.
Lastly, the reason i dont own a new Murcielago, or a Gallardo, is because i am on the list to get the special edition Murcielago R-GT street, one of only 25 being made, and then ill also pick up the Gallardo SV. I buy the special edition models, just like my Esprit is one of only 33.
STrange - there have been a numbe rof "special" lambos released sicne yours, you seemed to not make enough money to get on those lists - that must really piss you off.
BTW, how do you feel knowing that most rap artists make more money in a year than you do in a life time - and have more bling in their grocery getter that you have in all 8, oops - I mean 4 of your cars.
allanlambo
05-15-2005, 09:24 PM
RC45: I fail to see what parts on Allan's Diablo are "Ghetto" or "Rice"! I mean, air intake, custom exhaust and chromed 19" wheels are all functional, and offer performance benefits to boot.
Allan: you have any new videos of your Great White Shark? :wink:
I've already seen it walking the Z06 (teehee)
Hey nothing new as of now. The car is currently in Ca, getting ready to do some major modifications. We will either twin turbo, twin supercharge, or build the motor and run more nitrous. Im doing some additional body mods also. The wheels have been replaced with 19 inch Lowenharts, and the brakes re-done and powdercoated. My Esprit will also be featured in an upcoming issue of Modified Luxury and Exotics.
dingo
05-15-2005, 09:28 PM
LMAO.....I have spent the last 20mins or so reading this topic as I have ignored it up unitl now :D
Its a shame that allanlambo is such a money-obsessed person - exactly the type of car owners we hate! We have a couple of Ferrari/Lambo owners at JW and they are all humble people who are here to share their passion and not brag about how much money they have and big their penis is - you should take note and maybe you won't be such a hated person.
I would much rather drive a Thunderbird or any other normal car and have real friends instead of an SV and have everyone hate me for being such a dick.
I think either this guy should be banned or just not be mentioned anymore - whatever it takes for him not to spend time at this site :P
TeflonTron
05-15-2005, 09:29 PM
RC45: I fail to see what parts on Allan's Diablo are "Ghetto" or "Rice"! I mean, air intake, custom exhaust and chromed 19" wheels are all functional, and offer performance benefits to boot.
Allan: you have any new videos of your Great White Shark? :wink:
I've already seen it walking the Z06 (teehee)
Hey nothing new as of now. The car is currently in Ca, getting ready to do some major modifications. We will either twin turbo, twin supercharge, or build the motor and run more nitrous. Im doing some additional body mods also. The wheels have been replaced with 19 inch Lowenharts, and the brakes re-done and powdercoated. My Esprit will also be featured in an upcoming issue of Modified Luxury and Exotics.
Body mods, eh? You were thinking about getting the SV-R type rear "bumper" the last time we talked: I assume that's still the plan, right? The age old question: Turbo or Supercharger?! Keep me updated if you can.
Be cool.
Ross
allanlambo
05-15-2005, 10:39 PM
LMAO.....I have spent the last 20mins or so reading this topic as I have ignored it up unitl now :D
Its a shame that allanlambo is such a money-obsessed person - exactly the type of car owners we hate! We have a couple of Ferrari/Lambo owners at JW and they are all humble people who are here to share their passion and not brag about how much money they have and big their penis is - you should take note and maybe you won't be such a hated person.
I would much rather drive a Thunderbird or any other normal car and have real friends instead of an SV and have everyone hate me for being such a dick.
I think either this guy should be banned or just not be mentioned anymore - whatever it takes for him not to spend time at this site :P
Dingo, you would obviously rather spend your time with a 36 year old male who has over 7,000 posts on a forum full of teenagers(no direspect to teenagers). But is there any Michael Jackson stuff going on between the 2 of you?
^^ This is rich - coming from a man whose online screen name is an anogram of the LA chapter of AOL NAMBLA members...
allanlambo = LA AOL NAMBLA
I rest my case.
LOL someone here has been reading the da vinci code
I have also ignored this topic until now, but I will check the 5 pages ASAP
dingo
05-15-2005, 11:04 PM
Dingo, you would obviously rather spend your time with a 36 year old male who has over 7,000 posts on a forum full of teenagers(no direspect to teenagers). But is there any Michael Jackson stuff going on between the 2 of you?
As has already been said this board is not full of teenagers - and even if it were I would rather spend time with them than someone like you :wink: Your 35yo yourself and a member of JW.........
BTW, he hasn't got to 7000 posts yet.
Lets say I got myself a Lambo tomorrow then became a member on the Lambo boards and 'spent time' there would that mean you and I have Michael Jackson stuff going on (since I am only out of my teens by a few years)? Think before you write something idiot!
allanlambo
05-16-2005, 02:22 AM
Dingo, you would obviously rather spend your time with a 36 year old male who has over 7,000 posts on a forum full of teenagers(no direspect to teenagers). But is there any Michael Jackson stuff going on between the 2 of you?
As has already been said this board is not full of teenagers - and even if it were I would rather spend time with them than someone like you :wink: Your 35yo yourself and a member of JW.........
BTW, he hasn't got to 7000 posts yet.
Lets say I got myself a Lambo tomorrow then became a member on the Lambo boards and 'spent time' there would that mean you and I have Michael Jackson stuff going on (since I am only out of my teens by a few years)? Think before you write something idiot!
The good thing is, we dont have to worry about you being able to afford a lambo anytime soon! :wink:
dingo
05-16-2005, 03:54 AM
Dingo, you would obviously rather spend your time with a 36 year old male who has over 7,000 posts on a forum full of teenagers(no direspect to teenagers). But is there any Michael Jackson stuff going on between the 2 of you?
As has already been said this board is not full of teenagers - and even if it were I would rather spend time with them than someone like you :wink: Your 35yo yourself and a member of JW.........
BTW, he hasn't got to 7000 posts yet.
Lets say I got myself a Lambo tomorrow then became a member on the Lambo boards and 'spent time' there would that mean you and I have Michael Jackson stuff going on (since I am only out of my teens by a few years)? Think before you write something idiot!
The good thing is, we dont have to worry about you being able to afford a lambo anytime soon! :wink:
and you would know that how?
saadie
05-16-2005, 04:02 AM
"" 97 355 Spider(Sold that POS)"" ... nice way of saying ""i am an idiot"" ...
soo .. when are yea seling yer other bling bligh white pos ??
dude .. yea need to get something big( big dosnt realy mean big here ;)) to gain yer lost respect ..... well history has been written .. cant help yea there :mrgreen:
allanlambo
05-16-2005, 05:00 AM
"" 97 355 Spider(Sold that POS)"" ... nice way of saying ""i am an idiot"" ...
soo .. when are yea seling yer other bling bligh white pos ??
dude .. yea need to get something big( big dosnt realy mean big here ;)) to gain yer lost respect ..... well history has been written .. cant help yea there :mrgreen:
Yes, i sold that POS. The only other POS i had close to it was a Testarossa. Id have to rank the 355 as one of the most boring cars ive ever owned.
TeflonTron
05-16-2005, 06:22 AM
"" 97 355 Spider(Sold that POS)"" ... nice way of saying ""i am an idiot"" ...
soo .. when are yea seling yer other bling bligh white pos ??
dude .. yea need to get something big( big dosnt realy mean big here ;)) to gain yer lost respect ..... well history has been written .. cant help yea there :mrgreen:
How the heck can you call a white Diablo a "POS"???
:roll:
@RC45: Yes, Allan and I am the same person. I just pretend to be 10 years younger and from a different country.
saadie
05-16-2005, 08:41 AM
i think u didnt read ""bling bling"" .... 8) 8)
and lmfao @ 10 years younger ... :mrgreen:
Anonymous
05-16-2005, 11:37 AM
See that's it right there Allan you just proved to yourself that it's all about the price right? saying you can buy 5 Pathfinders for the price of 1 Tahoe (God I gotta stop doing that) I mean H2. Sometimes money isn't everything and you need to get past your insanely overinflated ego or you are gonna die a very pathetic old man. Also just so you know My Pathfinder was about $29K new so you can't buy 2 of them for the price you would get for that giant ugly ass Ghetto Box that snap's tie rods (do you know what those are?) like they are plastic whenever they try to play with the only HUMMER the H1, Why didn't you buy one of them atleast they are a real truck, was it because you blew all your money on NOS and buying peoples friendships?
See, small minded people think small. When you buy a car, you think value. When i buy a car, i think i want everything. Thats why my H2 stickered over 100K.
I understand your way of thinking though, its easier to belittle what you will never afford. That way it doesnt make you feel as bad for not having it. in my world, it would be a sentance worse than death to drive a Thunderbird. When i was 20, i was driving a Ferrari 328, and had already purchased my first investment property, all from an Auto business i had started when i was 14.
So I will never be able to afford an H2 is that what you are saying? How would you know what I will be able to afford later in my life just because I don't already flash around town in some fucking showboat Tahoe. I'm going to school right now. Atleast I will be doing something I love and making a good living at it.
Oh and how the fuck did an H2 cost over $100k was there a $35k markup?As for Allan: I have to confess that I do like him. I'm not in to all of these Rappers throwing their bling in your face, but there is someone about Allan that I like, although it may be more about the car than him!!
I knew it... it's spring... and love is in the air... :P --- oohhh to be young and in love again.. hehe ;)
Damn dude, i just noticed your age. Now i see why you are such an angry man in denial. You are older than me, and still driving a Vette. That sucks. Remember i too had a Vettes, including a brand new ZR-1. But i had those in my early 20's, when i was broke.
Didn't take long for the roaches to crawl out after the lights went out... and no need to bore us about your exploits spending daddy's money as you were growing up.
Daddys money? You wish. See it is possible to make money, on your own, not be be content knowing people drive cars wi=orth more than your home.
You try to belittle others who have more than you, but yet, what are you doing here, other than trying to exploit your POS Z06. Remember, you will always be low man on the totem pole! Better get back to work, your next 0% interest 10 year financing payment is due on that POS shortly.
Dingo, you would obviously rather spend your time with a 36 year old male who has over 7,000 posts on a forum full of teenagers(no direspect to teenagers). But is there any Michael Jackson stuff going on between the 2 of you?
As has already been said this board is not full of teenagers - and even if it were I would rather spend time with them than someone like you :wink: Your 35yo yourself and a member of JW.........
BTW, he hasn't got to 7000 posts yet.
Lets say I got myself a Lambo tomorrow then became a member on the Lambo boards and 'spent time' there would that mean you and I have Michael Jackson stuff going on (since I am only out of my teens by a few years)? Think before you write something idiot!
The good thing is, we dont have to worry about you being able to afford a lambo anytime soon! :wink:
You really enjoy striving to attain that very special stratum of "Assholeness" don't you?? yep not everybody can afford a lambo but why do you feel the need to belittle others like this, especially when you don't know anything about them, their job etc etc. yes i'm personally nowhere close to being able to afford one, but i'd rather drive my car for the rest of my life than be YOU
"" 97 355 Spider(Sold that POS)"" ... nice way of saying ""i am an idiot"" ...
soo .. when are yea seling yer other bling bligh white pos ??
dude .. yea need to get something big( big dosnt realy mean big here ;)) to gain yer lost respect ..... well history has been written .. cant help yea there :mrgreen:
How the heck can you call a white Diablo a "POS"???
:roll:
@RC45: Yes, Allan and I am the same person. I just pretend to be 10 years younger and from a different country.
equally how can you call a 355 a piece of shit, don't like the way it drives fine alot of well respected people will probably disagree, but just park it in the living room and admire the piece of automotive art, if you're so rich shouldn't really be a bother :wink:
RC45: I fail to see what parts on Allan's Diablo are "Ghetto" or "Rice"! I mean, air intake, custom exhaust and chromed 19" wheels are all functional, and offer performance benefits to boot.
Allan: you have any new videos of your Great White Shark? :wink:
I've already seen it walking the Z06 (teehee)
Evidently you and allanlambo are the same person.
Either that or you have waited yourwhole life to worship the likes of this guy.
Have at it.
As for USED cars, Diablo bought new, Lotus Esprit purchased new, car still only has 100 miles on it, Hummer purchased new. As for my ghetto mods, well i guess the ghetto lovers in your neck of the woods really like them as the latest issue of Modified Luxury and Exotics has a 10 page spread on my car, its 4th magazine review. See, so i actually do a service to the poor and pathetic of the world, such as yourself.
In other words you used to be in the money (shortly after you cashed in your trust fund) but have had no decent self-made success since then - other than magaine articles and internet videos for 13 year olds to wank off over.
Because if you had really been in the cash, you would be driving some nice new flashy 2004 or 2005 Lambo. Not trying your best to show off our old cars - I guess you go to all the cool clubs to. :roll:
Yep - you really do have a really fulfilling life.
Now f off and go have it else where.
I can comfortably gaurentee you that i make more yearly, than youll make in your lifetime. You think i post my car up for 13 year olds? Thats funny, i usually hang out on the Lambo boards, with other owners. I rarely post on this board, only browse the pictures. You on the other hand, are a regular poster on a board with teenagers, trying to get some sort of self worth by trying to overinflate your POS Z06 and undermine other serious cars. You post incorrect data to try and support your stupid claims, and then belittle ownership of things far superior to anything you own, or will ever own. What you do, would be the equivalent of me going to the Mclaren F1 owners board and telling them my Sv is superior to their cars because i can make it faster and the Mclaren is overpriced. I know my place on the totem pole, you dont.
Lastly, the reason i dont own a new Murcielago, or a Gallardo, is because i am on the list to get the special edition Murcielago R-GT street, one of only 25 being made, and then ill also pick up the Gallardo SV. I buy the special edition models, just like my Esprit is one of only 33. Its kind of like you, you bought the special edition Z06, 1 of only 999,999,999 made this year. :shock:
Scuse me, Mr Lambo Owner, here I am, a 15 year old, and I still think ure the world's most glorified dick...
As far as i'm concerned, you can take those cars of yours, and shove them up your ass, maybe that'll make you feel better.....
In case you haven't noticed, this is not the Braggers board, it's simply a place where average people, mostly on average income, come talk about a passion in common....cars, and not brag about their ways of feeling more secure....
I'm sorry to say that you are not a worthy owner for that diablo's doorknob, let alone all the cars you have...
go fuck yourself, and have a nice day..
ARMAN
05-16-2005, 12:22 PM
Hey nothing new as of now. The car is currently in Ca, getting ready to do some major modifications. We will either twin turbo, twin supercharge, or build the motor and run more nitrous. Im doing some additional body mods also. The wheels have been replaced with 19 inch Lowenharts, and the brakes re-done and powdercoated. My Esprit will also be featured in an upcoming issue of Modified Luxury and Exotics.
:lol: :lol: :lol:
Why? :|
Id have to rank the 355 as one of the most boring cars ive ever owned
:shock: Man, you have some SERIOUS problems http://arman.xz.cz/smilees/chairfall.gif
gucom
05-16-2005, 02:28 PM
LMAO.....I have spent the last 20mins or so reading this topic as I have ignored it up unitl now :D
Its a shame that allanlambo is such a money-obsessed person - exactly the type of car owners we hate! We have a couple of Ferrari/Lambo owners at JW and they are all humble people who are here to share their passion and not brag about how much money they have and big their penis is - you should take note and maybe you won't be such a hated person.
I would much rather drive a Thunderbird or any other normal car and have real friends instead of an SV and have everyone hate me for being such a dick.
I think either this guy should be banned or just not be mentioned anymore - whatever it takes for him not to spend time at this site :P
Dingo, you would obviously rather spend your time with a 36 year old male who has over 7,000 posts on a forum full of teenagers(no direspect to teenagers). But is there any Michael Jackson stuff going on between the 2 of you?
and that thing between u and teflontron is exactly what?? :| in what other way is he inflating (blowing) u/ur ego??
TeflonTron
05-16-2005, 02:54 PM
LMAO.....I have spent the last 20mins or so reading this topic as I have ignored it up unitl now :D
Its a shame that allanlambo is such a money-obsessed person - exactly the type of car owners we hate! We have a couple of Ferrari/Lambo owners at JW and they are all humble people who are here to share their passion and not brag about how much money they have and big their penis is - you should take note and maybe you won't be such a hated person.
I would much rather drive a Thunderbird or any other normal car and have real friends instead of an SV and have everyone hate me for being such a dick.
I think either this guy should be banned or just not be mentioned anymore - whatever it takes for him not to spend time at this site :P
Dingo, you would obviously rather spend your time with a 36 year old male who has over 7,000 posts on a forum full of teenagers(no direspect to teenagers). But is there any Michael Jackson stuff going on between the 2 of you?
and that thing between u and teflontron is exactly what?? :| in what other way is he inflating (blowing) u/ur ego??
Fuck off, Dutchy. You got something to insult me about then level it at me directly. The fact is that the people in this thread dislike Allan because he has a huge ego, yet I like him in spite of it. Don't try and make things out to be anything more than that.
LMAO.....I have spent the last 20mins or so reading this topic as I have ignored it up unitl now :D
Its a shame that allanlambo is such a money-obsessed person - exactly the type of car owners we hate! We have a couple of Ferrari/Lambo owners at JW and they are all humble people who are here to share their passion and not brag about how much money they have and big their penis is - you should take note and maybe you won't be such a hated person.
I would much rather drive a Thunderbird or any other normal car and have real friends instead of an SV and have everyone hate me for being such a dick.
I think either this guy should be banned or just not be mentioned anymore - whatever it takes for him not to spend time at this site :P
Dingo, you would obviously rather spend your time with a 36 year old male who has over 7,000 posts on a forum full of teenagers(no direspect to teenagers). But is there any Michael Jackson stuff going on between the 2 of you?
and that thing between u and teflontron is exactly what?? :| in what other way is he inflating (blowing) u/ur ego??
Fuck off, Dutchy. You got something to insult me about then level it at me directly. The fact is that the people in this thread dislike Allan because he has a huge ego, yet I like him in spite of it. Don't try and make things out to be anything more than that.
Oooh - now look who is throwing insults.. ;)
We (I at least) don't dislike him because of "his large ego" - I don't even know him, except by his being reputation of being a prick.
Perhaps it is time for some self analysis there old chap - why would you identify most closely with this clown?
Unless you are extremely wealthy in your own right - he also hates/dispises your poor arse.
Perhaps the original topic is lost after so many pages of flames and insults. And since it would go on forever, sorry everybody but
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