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mindgam3
04-25-2005, 04:12 PM
Whats wrong with engine upgrades? :?

jon_s
04-25-2005, 04:45 PM
Unless there is a law against modification (which I have heard of) it would be mainly to do with insurance. That is a pure guess though.


edit: looks like there are regulations regarding car tuning. In the UK, as long as the car passes the MOT and all modifications are insured, everything is ok.

"There is one exception. Technical inspections have recently started monitoring the use of aftermarket wheels and lowering springs. Both must be within tolerances specified by manufacturers. Air filters that require a modification of the hood are not permitted. Other than emissions, no other engine modifications are checked."

"Traffic Police
Belgian police officers are relatively tolerant to tuning. In Germany, police officers will readily pull over any car suspected of being modified. They may ask the driver to provide evidence that all the modifications were TUV-approved. If the owner cannot supply evidence, the vehicle will be towed away. In Belgium, police officers rarely pull over modified vehicles. They are more likely to stop tuned vehicles for traffic violations such as speeding because these cars command more attention. Traffic police only exceptionally request a conformity check to be carried out on a car that is pulled over."

source:
http://strategis.ic.gc.ca/epic/internet/inimr-ri.nsf/en/gr124556e.html

mindgam3
04-25-2005, 04:50 PM
surely they dont have access to foreigners insurance details and if the driver supplied thier insurance certificate then there can't be much else they can do?

jon_s
04-25-2005, 04:53 PM
thamar did say that only the belgium dirvers were afraid.

Wutputt
04-25-2005, 05:00 PM
Unless there is a law against modification (which I have heard of) it would be mainly to do with insurance. That is a pure guess though.
There is a ridiculous law in Belgium that states you may not mod your car at all, it has to be 100% standard throughout its life. Even tuning upgrades with TUV approval aren't allowed. Though last year the law was slightly adjustes. Now minor changes are allowed: other wheels (though max 2% difference with the standard wheels), lower suspension (within limits), air filter and an aftermarket exhaust system that complies with noise legislation are allowed. But real tuning performance tuning is illegal over here. But that doesn't mean you won't see modded cars around here. We just find a way around the law :D

mindgam3
04-25-2005, 05:31 PM
damn, never knew tuning was completely illegal in some countries.... guess you dont get many chav chariots and ricers out there at least ;)

ZfrkS62
04-25-2005, 07:07 PM
once again, glad i live in the US. Some states here have safety inspections, but that's just to make sure the brakes are going to stop you and the tires are legal tread depth, yada, yada, yada :roll: Other than that, do whatever you want to the engine, jsut so long that it passes emissions :D

lev_p
04-26-2005, 06:53 PM
There is a ridiculous law in Belgium that states you may not mod your car at all, it has to be 100% standard throughout its life. Even tuning upgrades with TUV approval aren't allowed. Though last year the law was slightly adjustes. Now minor changes are allowed: other wheels (though max 2% difference with the standard wheels), lower suspension (within limits), air filter and an aftermarket exhaust system that complies with noise legislation are allowed. But real tuning performance tuning is illegal over here. But that doesn't mean you won't see modded cars around here. We just find a way around the law

And I thought we are the last country on the planet with such laws. A, no wait, lowering is also illegal here. And just like in Belgium, we do have tuned cars over here, although from the outside it is sometimes hard to tell that the car have been modded :o
But wait, there is more: we are one of the latest countries on the planet, where motorsports are prohibited! They are trying to pass the law for motorsports for the past 2 years, so hopefully by next year we will have official motorsport.

Skyliner
04-27-2005, 06:58 AM
Sounds a lot like the law here in Denmark. If you are putting in another engine the maximum increase of power alloved is 20%. If you are modding the original engine, it must not pollute any more than the stock (and you have to prove that). With brakes nothing is allowed unless there is TÜV on it. Even fitting bigger brakes using only standard original components. It sucks big time. But usually we justs do it :D Just like my mini

Skaala
04-28-2005, 02:34 PM
over here, you can tune, but you have to pay tax pr hk and pr cc, I think it is something like £60-70 pr hk, and you can only tune 20% without getting bigger brakes and new suspention. (TUV approved) You also have to contact your insurance company and work out a new price (if they approve)

I may be wrong, if there are some new laws or rules..

RC45
04-28-2005, 11:43 PM
Sounds a lot like the law here in Denmark. If you are putting in another engine the maximum increase of power alloved is 20%.

WTF? Whose car is it? Yours or the governments?