View Full Version : The last stretch, time to choose!
Neema702
04-25-2005, 10:05 AM
Alright ladies and gentlemen, it has finally come down to two cars, which the winner will be bought this week, and of course I'm going to have custom shots in the "what i drive" section. I'm now choosing b/w the 2005.5 Audi A4 2.0T Quattro and the 2006 BMW 325i (both with the Sports Package). So.... need all the feedback i can get, and the winner will be announced later this week. thanks for all of your help guys, i really do appreciate it!
crayzayjay
04-25-2005, 01:30 PM
BMW. There's a reason why they're so popular - they're the best :P
+ RWD > AWD unless you live somewhere snowy
Sir_GT
04-25-2005, 01:32 PM
If it's between the 2.0 audi and the 325i, get the 325i. You'll get much more for your money.
If I were you, I would stretch for a 330i instead though.
ZfrkS62
04-25-2005, 01:34 PM
Living in Texas, that AWD will be useless unless you're driving through piles of cow crap :P
Go with the BMW. standard 4/50K warranty(upgradeble) and 3/36K maintenence(upgradeble) I don't think Audi offers full maintenence :wink:
Get the 330i if you want the Dynamic Drive and Active Steering (they might be offering this package with the 325 but i'm not sure 100%)
I think most everyone knows where i stand on this....BMW see if you can get a 330i. The 325i is peppy enough though, but the 330 just feels good.
gottacatchup
04-25-2005, 04:02 PM
BMW without a doubt.
why would you want a weesy turbo 2.0 when you could have the buttery smoothness of a world famous BMW inline 6
mindgam3
04-25-2005, 04:15 PM
If you want the sportier drive go for the bimmer - from my experience much better service etc than Audi too
|Nuno|
04-25-2005, 04:30 PM
If you can, drive both, then decide. Simple.
But I'd go with the 3 Series tough. More sporty and I prefer its engine over the one in the Audi.
But in the end, what YOU want it's all that matters. :)
ferrarif1fan89
04-25-2005, 04:34 PM
go with the beemer! lots more for your money, better to drive, and, IMO, better to look at. also, as has been said before, id stretch for the 330i, but without the nav, and all that unnecessary shit. i know what im getting next, the 3-series touring.
666fast
04-25-2005, 05:31 PM
You can't go wrong with either car, but Audi's have really crap resale values.
Sir_GT
04-25-2005, 11:03 PM
You can't go wrong with either car, but Audi's have really crap resale values.
This holds true the world over.
ZfrkS62
04-25-2005, 11:10 PM
You can't go wrong with either car, but Audi's have really crap resale values.
i completely forgot about that point :) ::thinks of BMW resale award commercial and laughs::
HeilSvenska
04-26-2005, 12:51 AM
hmmm...BMW is the logical choice. The new Audi's supposed to be as good as the old 3-series, but i don't know what people are saying about the new one. Personally I'd take a Saab 9-3 or 9-5 even if i will probably regret the choice. but they have soo much character.
*on a note, the US-spec Saab 9-3 Sportcombi will have colored rear lights rather than the cool ice-effect rear lights of the European-spec cars. I swear...if this was one of those things done by another one of those goddamn focus groups...
Audi A4 Avant
coloradosilver
04-26-2005, 01:16 AM
I test drove the BMW 325i (w/sport package) less than a week ago and the only thing that really inpressed me was the braking stability feature. Other than that, I felt that the power was HUGELY lacking, the seating was way too cramped, and all that I'd really be paying for was the BMW logo. The price is way too high for what you're actually getting. I'd never buy a brand new car though. Resale value is good though.
I went down the street and drove the 2005 Jaguar X-Type 3.0 (5 speed manual with sport package), What a difference, better performance (230 hp stock), more luxury IMO, AWD, better looks with the body kit that comes with the sport package, dual exhaust (better note), and costs way less than the BMW.
The 2005 X-Type 3.0 Sport will be my next daily driver.
I test drove the BMW 325i (w/sport package) less than a week ago and the only thing that really inpressed me was the braking stability feature. Other than that, I felt that the power was HUGELY lacking, the seating was way too cramped, and all that I'd really be paying for was the BMW logo. The price is way too high for what you're actually getting. I'd never buy a brand new car though. Resale value is good though.
I went down the street and drove the 2005 Jaguar X-Type 3.0 (5 speed manual with sport package), What a difference, better performance (230 hp stock), more luxury IMO, AWD, better looks with the body kit that comes with the sport package, dual exhaust (better note), and costs way less than the BMW.
The 2005 X-Type 3.0 Sport will be my next daily driver.
X-Types are a steal right now. They took out 3000 in price and added 2 grand worth of goodies.
Also i think hes looking into the new E90 3 Series, which will have 225 horses from the 2.5 if i remember correctly.
Have you looked at Merc? If you want a nice plush ride, alright road handling and the badge, you cant go wrong with a C230 Sport Sedan or a C320, or C240. Hell you could pick up a C32 for the price of a new C320.
Sir_GT
04-26-2005, 11:58 AM
I test drove the BMW 325i (w/sport package) less than a week ago and the only thing that really inpressed me was the braking stability feature. Other than that, I felt that the power was HUGELY lacking, the seating was way too cramped, and all that I'd really be paying for was the BMW logo. The price is way too high for what you're actually getting. I'd never buy a brand new car though. Resale value is good though.
I went down the street and drove the 2005 Jaguar X-Type 3.0 (5 speed manual with sport package), What a difference, better performance (230 hp stock), more luxury IMO, AWD, better looks with the body kit that comes with the sport package, dual exhaust (better note), and costs way less than the BMW.
The 2005 X-Type 3.0 Sport will be my next daily driver.
Ummm... The E90 3-series has bigger room than the C-class, the X-type, and the A4. If you couldn't fit into it, you might as well look into the 5-series/E-class range.
430csjj
04-26-2005, 12:25 PM
Get a 330i if you can.
Gnome
04-26-2005, 03:54 PM
Ummm... The E90 3-series has bigger room than the C-class, the X-type, and the A4. If you couldn't fit into it, you might as well look into the 5-series/E-class range.
Is that true? I know the E90 is bigger than the previous one, but that one was quite a bit smaller than the A4.
I know it doesn't matter in this discussion, but in Norway resale values are about the same for Audi and BMW.
IMO too many pricks drive BMW, and Audi is a bit boring/common. Jaguar, Alfa Romeo and Saab have more personality.
Sir_GT
04-26-2005, 04:43 PM
Ummm... The E90 3-series has bigger room than the C-class, the X-type, and the A4. If you couldn't fit into it, you might as well look into the 5-series/E-class range.
Is that true? I know the E90 is bigger than the previous one, but that one was quite a bit smaller than the A4.
I know it doesn't matter in this discussion, but in Norway resale values are about the same for Audi and BMW.
IMO too many pricks drive BMW, and Audi is a bit boring/common. Jaguar, Alfa Romeo and Saab have more personality.
It is true actually. The E90 has the best leg room in it's class. Actually, all bias aside, according to literally ALL motoring publications, it IS the best car in its class.
If you go for the Audi, your only real reason for it was that "it wasn't a BMW", which is for all intents and purposes, a real daft (stupid) reason. I know a car is a very emotional purchase, but it is a purchase nonetheless. A car is an investment, and at the end of your time with it, you would like to get your money back. Whilst you're using it though, you would like to get the most out of your money, and at the moment, there is no better deal than the E90 3-series.
Anybody can suggest to you otherwise, but if you approach it logically, only the 3-series makes sense. You've got: the best legroom in its class, the (IIRC) 2nd biggest boot in its class, the best residuals in its class, the best driving car in its class, top interior build quality, overall the best built car, bulletproof warranty (in the UK at least), excellent dealerships (again, in the UK at least), excellent ride and handling, excellent mileage, and the best motorway ability of any car in its class.
Oh, and don't forget, BMW drivers get the most sex. ;)
AlfistiPT
04-26-2005, 05:46 PM
I prefer the bimmer...
But tha Audi is also a nice car.
Neema702
04-26-2005, 11:13 PM
Thanks for all ur help everyone, i appreciate everyones input. I've driven both and ive decided to buy the Audi. As for those of you who didnt understand the original question, let me make it simple... no one said anything about throwing in different cars (330i, x-type)... you had to choose b/w two cars, so damn simple. and as for the guy who thinks its a dumb question to ask because im the one whos gonna be driving it, then whats the point of ever reading critics analysis on cars, it just learning from others opinions. but for those of you who understood the question, thanks again. pics will be posted next thurs (may 3), for those of you who are curious.
ZfrkS62
04-26-2005, 11:23 PM
don't worry, BMW will still accept an Audi as a trade in :wink: :lol:
seriously though, congrats on being able to buy a new car. There are a few of us here who wish that we had that luxury :(
ZfrkS62
04-26-2005, 11:44 PM
If he's paying 64 grand for an Audi, he isn't getting an A4 :shock: The E90 fully loaded is about $41K. Don't know where the Audi is, price wise :|
Neema702
04-26-2005, 11:51 PM
thanks guys, ill definately enjoy driving it and ill keep everyone posted about it (any mods i make or whatever). the price was about $41K with tax, title, and all the fees and shit. haha... just for those of you who are curious, im getting a personal liscense plate with YNGEXEC on it (young executive). kinda funny... hopefully next car will be in the new M3 or NSX range, this will do me just fine for now
coloradosilver
04-27-2005, 12:16 AM
Thanks for all ur help everyone, i appreciate everyones input. I've driven both and ive decided to buy the Audi. As for those of you who didnt understand the original question, let me make it simple... no one said anything about throwing in different cars (330i, x-type)... you had to choose b/w two cars, so damn simple. and as for the guy who thinks its a dumb question to ask because im the one whos gonna be driving it, then whats the point of ever reading critics analysis on cars, it just learning from others opinions. but for those of you who understood the question, thanks again. pics will be posted next thurs (may 3), for those of you who are curious.
Wow there, don't be an ass about it. I'm the one that made the suggestion about the 3.0 x-type. I understood the question perfectly and don't appreciate you making comments about how "damn simple" the question was.
We're all here to help you out, and regardless of what your question was, our intent was to provide you with some of our opinions with the cars you mentioned and maybe throw in one or two you may not have consiedred. I make my suggestion of the x-type based on what seemed to be your criteria for your next car (price, performance, comfort, etc...).
Mine, and everyone elses, intent here was to help you make this decision since thats exactly what you asked for. If some of us threw in a few other options, it was only with the intent of helping you out. A simple "thanks anyway" would have sufficed. No need to be unappreciative or rude about the attempt of helping you out. If you ask for help or an opinion ahout something, you should just be thinkful that people are willing to do so with good intentions, regardless of their response.
If I inconvenienced you in some way, I'm sorry! I'll just be sure not to cime in again next time you ask for help with something.
Neema702
04-27-2005, 12:42 AM
I wasnt trying to insult anyone directly, and i do appreciate everyones input, just like i said i did earlier. Its just annoying to read all those other suggestions when i never asked for any. i just now know to be more specific next time.
btw... how could u possibly even begin to speak for others, how in the world could you possibly know what their intentions were, think about it smart guy :wink:
coloradosilver
04-27-2005, 02:23 AM
^^^Smart Guy??? What is it with you? I was just trying to say that most people here (I believe) were just trying to help you out. If you don't like the answers you get, maybe you should just avoid asking the questions in the 1st place if you find the answers "annoying". Please don't start name calling now. You making the sarcastic remark "smart guy" is the same as calling me dumb or stupid. Why would you resort to that?
How could I possibly know what their intentions were? Easy: You asked a question, therefore it would be safe to assume that the responses that you receives from myself and others would be in the interest of answering that question and helping you out with your delima. It's not rocket science. If you ask a question, the responses would be an attempt to answer that question, thus, the whole point of this thread.
Neema702
04-27-2005, 03:23 AM
whoa whoa... first off, u need to chill out, ur taking this way too seriously. i dont know if this is how u are with everyone else, but u need to def. think about relaxing a little bit. secondly, if you had the least bit of knowledge, you would understand that logically, it is impossible to every assume anything about others. i dont give a damn about what you think makes sense or what you feel u need to assume, UR WRONG! YOU CANT ASSUME THOSE THINGS! i appreciate everyones help, and lets just leave it at that. meaning: GET OVER IT!
I still would have gotten the bimmer but its your money.
Neema702
04-27-2005, 03:44 AM
I still would have gotten the bimmer but its your money.
dont get me wrong, i think BMW builds great cars, i just had more fun with the Audi, plus im only going to keep it for 3-4 years, so its not like im stuck with it forever...
coloradosilver
04-27-2005, 04:19 AM
whoa whoa... first off, u need to chill out, ur taking this way too seriously. i dont know if this is how u are with everyone else, but u need to def. think about relaxing a little bit. secondly, if you had the least bit of knowledge, you would understand that logically, it is impossible to every assume anything about others. i dont give a damn about what you think makes sense or what you feel u need to assume, UR WRONG! YOU CANT ASSUME THOSE THINGS! i appreciate everyones help, and lets just leave it at that. meaning: GET OVER IT!
What are you talking about? I just assume that when you asked the question about which car to buy, the people would respond by picking one or the other because thats what the question was about. Following your logic, there would never be any point in asking anyone anything because you could never assume what they would answer having anything to do with the question.
I don't try to "assume everything" about others. I just assume that when you ask a question, the answer that you get should remotely pretain to the question asked, otherwise whats the point in asking in the 1st place? If you don't understand these simple concepts you shouldn't be posting here at all.
I'm done with this debate and as you said "I'm over it". Knowing the mentaity level of yourself, it was an absurd arguement to make in the beginning. I'll waste me time with others that have somewhat more of an itellectual status than "UR WRONG".
Sir_GT
04-27-2005, 04:26 AM
I still would have gotten the bimmer but its your money.
I concur.
komotar
04-27-2005, 04:33 AM
I'd get the BMW. More exciting car. No question about it.
Skaala
04-28-2005, 02:35 PM
AUDI Quattro - no question
The BMW and Audi are both pitful underpowered poser hair dresser cars.. :)
$40$+ for a bland, under-powered car that every other wannabe yuppie is driving.
No thanks.
:)
The BMW and Audi are both pitful underpowered poser hair dresser cars.. :)
$40$+ for a bland, under-powered car that every other wannabe yuppie is driving.
No thanks.
:)
Why you talking bout the C6 corvette so much. :lol:
The BMW and Audi are both pitful underpowered poser hair dresser cars.. :)
$40$+ for a bland, under-powered car that every other wannabe yuppie is driving.
No thanks.
:)
i cant argue with you there, but a vette is just as a poser in the sports car world as those cars are in the "rich", "luxury" world.
:D
If by "poser" you mean 4s 0-60, 100ft 60-0, 175mph top end, 7:56 Nurburgring lapping user friendly daily driver - then I guess it is a poser.. :)
The BMW and Audi are both pitful underpowered poser hair dresser cars.. :)
$40$+ for a bland, under-powered car that every other wannabe yuppie is driving.
No thanks.
:)
i cant argue with you there, but a vette is just as a poser in the sports car world as those cars are in the "rich", "luxury" world.
:D
If by "poser" you mean 4s 0-60, 100ft 60-0, 175mph top end, 7:56 Nurburgring lapping user friendly daily driver - then I guess it is a poser.. :)
those numbers mean nothing to me. the car is still crap in my book, but then again i hate all american cars.
but, again thats my opinion. 8)
Being a true poser, of course the numbers mean nothing to you - bling 22" dubs and 14" subwoofers are your thing.
The same way the perceived luxury and status of a BMW, Audi or Benz means nothing to me :P
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