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crayzayjay
04-20-2005, 12:27 PM
A couple of weeks ago on anoter car site i frequent, a fellow moderator, and someone i consider a friend put up a thread with pictures of his friend's pristine GT3 RS. His friend is 23, and was having the car tuned. A few minutes ago he put up another thread saying that his friend had passed away in a car accident :(
I don't understand German but from an online translation of the following link, it seems he was driving much too quickly.
http://www.landsberger-tagblatt.de/Home/DieganzeRegion/sptnid,10_regid,10_arid,447928.html
3 or so weeks ago, a friend from Dubai told me that his friend died in a Carrera GT in a very high-speed accident on the motorway. The guy was also in his early 20's :?
My driving has calmed down a lot over the last couple of years, and while news like this are tragic, they also make me thankful that i didn't have an overly powerful car as my first. Let's face it, i don't know one auto enthusiast who doesn't rate himself as an above-average driver, and while for the most part that may be true in terms of technique, or awareness, we are prone to getting carried away and doing stupid things. Especially when young. Young guys and supercars don't mix :|
Drive safe, everybody.
Oef that sad to here, Well at least im pretty safe in my dad's 110pk Laguna Break
zr2man99
04-20-2005, 12:49 PM
My truck will only go like 105-110mph. But I do tend to drive too fast. You just got to know when you can drive fast, and when you should really slow down. Its probably good that I have a slow car, because I do tend to take risks.
ARMAN
04-20-2005, 01:41 PM
As they say, average after 7 years of driving you become the driver who drives less-more safe cause you have enough knolege/practice. That what they tought us when we was making driver licence.
In the TV I saw a report(~2years ago) the guys bought Calibra, tuned it very well(DTM look) and went to shoot a vid on the roads, few minuted after they was both(I think he was with the buddy) dead :(
Another was accident, young guy got job, made money and from the money he spared he bought BMW, on the way home from the seller he probably was speeding - crashed and instantly died. They shoot hes dad coming and it was really hard to look what was his reactions, just imagine he had a son few minutes ago, and he is gone forever. The guy (dad) was just crushed and crying like a boy :(
And all this thanx to wrecles driving. Ofcourse it can happen that someone else do some crap, but now we are talking about something different.
After I had a crash, I was 5 seconds slower than the tram that saved me or I would be instantly dead, now my driving technic is to drive VERY careful where people/chldren can jump on the road(most of the city). Not too slow but damn careful in every situation.
Just few seconds can mean life, mine or someoneelse's. If mine its very bad, if someoneelse's - life is fucked cause its most of it spent in jail.
Drive careful.
gobs3z
04-20-2005, 01:58 PM
Well there's always that thought that your not living life till you risk, it means you don't no the boundaries of your own life unless you do life threatening activities like driving a car at high speeds(not neccessarily reckless). Being young you want to see what your limit is since thats your strongest point in life 18-30 years old. But it goes for sky diving and bungy jumping, it's just that cars have a higher likelyhood of hurting other people as well as the driver. There's a difference between crazy driving and stupid driving as well. I may be a crazy driver but never stupid. :?
P.S. It's good i don't have a faster car yet, my friend crashed his formula from going over a 2x4, he over corrected but he blames the car. :roll:
ARMAN
04-20-2005, 02:01 PM
Theres plenty of places where you can drive as you want, tracks, old empty parking lots, special clubs facility's... games :mrgreen:
SPEEDKILLAR
04-20-2005, 02:25 PM
I don't agree with that, like in my case, I don't consider myself to be Schumi, but I try my best to drive focussed and still sporty without exagerating, that depends from person to person.
There are many young guys who have very powerfull cars and still they drive most of the time like old farts, again when I get my hands on a powerfull cars I tend to be extra cautious driving it untill I know the car better, most of the time I'll go to a big empty road or parking lot and do dumbshit there to know how the car reacts and whenever a similair situation can happen in the future I know how the car reacts and then I can regain control much better.
So yes drive safely but don't exagerate and annoy ppl with your slow driving.
DeMoN
04-20-2005, 04:06 PM
German is starting to pay off... I understood a few things on there usch as the driver driving through a metal thing and he instantly died...
I must admit that I drive like crazy... fortunatelly I have less than 300 hp to have fun with.
SilviaEvo
04-20-2005, 06:52 PM
that is really sad that he died :cry: :cry: :cry:
here is a pretty good translation
A 23-jaehriger man tightened itself fatal injuries at noon today with a traffic accident on A 96 with Igling (district Landsberg). The man was according to data of the police with his Porsche much too fast on the way and hit against a brueckengelaender. It was immediately dead. In addition there were today mornings two heavy traffic accidents in the district Augsburg, with which two men were heavily hurt. Against 11.45 o'clock occurred the deadly accident on the A 96 (driving direction Lindau), with which a 23-jaehriger man from the district Fuerstenfeldbruck died. After past determinations was it with its Porsche Carrera R-S clearly too fast on the way. It came on wet-with-rain roadway without foreign participation in centrifuges, hit against the right guard rail, over these was catapulted and pushed with the driver's side against a brueckengelaender. After information of the emergency lady doctor the driver was immediately dead. Due to clear circumstances the public prosecutor's office Augsburg did without a technical and analytic appraisal and arranged only a blood withdrawal. That only seven months old passenger cars was completely demoliert. The extent of the damage might be with approximately 100,000 euro. At the accident scene a five kilometer long back-up had formed, because only the left trace was free. After two hours the accident scene was vacated. Against 7.15 o'clock came it in the southern district Augsburg to an accident with high damages to property. A 54-jaehriger Porsche steering wheel drove on the distance between pure hard living and Strassberg. At an upward gradient it overhauled then a vehicle column with three vehicles, obviously turned out with recA shears in centrifuges and got to the left off the roadway, directly into an adjacent small forest. There it hit roof-laterally against a tree and remained with its vehicle hanging. The 54-jaehrige driver from the range Guenzburg suffered with the fact so heavy head injuries that it had to be flown with a helicopter to a hospital to Munich. Further persons did not come with the traffic accident to damage. At the vehicle a damage to property at a value of approximately 50,000 euro developed. Likewise this morning against 7.45 o'clock came it into Gersthofen (district Augsburg) to a heavy traffic accident. In the petrol cock route within the range of the post office freight center the driver of a twelve-clay/tone he truck turned to the left into a there gas station and obviously surveyed thereby an accomodating Kradfahrer. The motorradfahrer hit against the front right bumper side and suffered thereby heavy head injuries. The 42-Jaehrige from the northern district had to be driven with the emergency surgeon into the central clinical center to Augsburg. The 35-jaehrige truck driver (likewise from the northern district) suffered a shock. At the truck developed only small damage to property, the motorcycle has only scrap value
BADMIHAI
04-20-2005, 07:00 PM
It's always sad to lose a fellow gearhead and to see such a rare car being destroyed. :(
A 54-jaehriger Porsche steering wheel drove on the distance between pure hard living and Strassberg.
That's a damn fine translation. It's so good, it has earned a place in my sig. :mrgreen:
ARMAN
04-20-2005, 07:28 PM
A 54-jaehriger Porsche steering wheel drove on the distance between pure hard living and Strassberg.
That's a damn fine translation. It's so good, it has earned a place in my sig. :mrgreen:
:lol: :lol: :lol:
im glad i didnt have a fast car two years ago. I would have killed myself. I dont have a fast car now, but im sure i wouldnt kill myself because ive seen enough people my age acting like jackasses. Lets go drift, comments like that. I live in a city of over 200,000 people. There is no room to drift.
Young guys and supercars don't mix :|
The same is true for open class motorcycles.
There is a reason the saying goes :
You get old pilots... and bold pilots... but there has never been an old, bold pilot.
DeMoN
04-20-2005, 10:20 PM
^yeah they do! Dont u like girls gone wild?
^yeah they do! Dont u like girls gone wild?
Not sure what girls gone wild has got to do with being an unsafe driver/flyer who hotdogs any chance they get and dies.
Any professional pilot (and this includes military flyers) will tell you that their is no place for hot dogging... carelss people die.
:)
Perhaps the comment should also read "Money/wealth does not equate to ability" ....
Sir_GT
04-22-2005, 09:59 PM
I agree completely with the 7 year comment somebody made... I've been driving for 8, and once did 210 kph on a motorway without being caught, and in all honesty, I will never ever do that again. I got lucky that time... not just with the getting caught bit, but because it was during a monday morning, and all the lorries were out.
One slip up, and that would've been it.
Race on the track, not on the street, as they say.
crayzayjay,
The guy who died in the Carrera GT died really badly...
I know so because he owns a really big garage shop and he also is the main dealer to some of the most exotic cars in the world like Koenigsegg, hamman and some other. here is his garage website.. http://www.quartermile.net/
The guy is 24 years old guy from india, he was racing his Carrera GT against his friend koenigsegg which was ahed at the time.. The story between the people say that the koenigsegg convertible roof flew so he wanted to move away from it's way and was a little bit to aggressive so it went side ways and hit the side wall doing well over 300 km/h then he his a light poll and that's when the car caught fire and started to burn the guy alive.
A friend of mine who is a friend of his went to the place in less than 10 min he said that he was unrecognizable his body and the chair he was sitting on was 1. He melted on it, and no pannel on the car is good.
Just saying this story again makes me really sad :cry:
crayzayjay
04-25-2005, 11:38 AM
crayzayjay,
The guy who died in the Carrera GT died really badly...
I know so because he owns a really big garage shop and he also is the main dealer to some of the most exotic cars in the world like Koenigsegg, hamman and some other. here is his garage website.. http://www.quartermile.net/
The guy is 24 years old guy from india, he was racing his Carrera GT against his friend koenigsegg which was ahed at the time.. The story between the people say that the koenigsegg convertible roof flew so he wanted to move away from it's way and was a little bit to aggressive so it went side ways and hit the side wall doing well over 300 km/h then he his a light poll and that's when the car caught fire and started to burn the guy alive.
A friend of mine who is a friend of his went to the place in less than 10 min he said that he was unrecognizable his body and the chair he was sitting on was 1. He melted on it, and no pannel on the car is good.
Just saying this story again makes me really sad :cry:
That's exactly how i heard it. very sad :(
saadie
04-25-2005, 11:55 AM
very sad indeed :( ...
btw ... how in the world would the roof fly off ... the dude didnt fix it properly ?? or something ... :?
crayzayjay
04-25-2005, 11:58 AM
That's what i would assume.
crayzayjay,
The guy who died in the Carrera GT died really badly...
I know so because he owns a really big garage shop and he also is the main dealer to some of the most exotic cars in the world like Koenigsegg, hamman and some other. here is his garage website.. http://www.quartermile.net/
The guy is 24 years old guy from india, he was racing his Carrera GT against his friend koenigsegg which was ahed at the time.. The story between the people say that the koenigsegg convertible roof flew so he wanted to move away from it's way and was a little bit to aggressive so it went side ways and hit the side wall doing well over 300 km/h then he his a light poll and that's when the car caught fire and started to burn the guy alive.
A friend of mine who is a friend of his went to the place in less than 10 min he said that he was unrecognizable his body and the chair he was sitting on was 1. He melted on it, and no pannel on the car is good.
Just saying this story again makes me really sad :cry:
They were talking about that on 6speed.
crayzayjay
04-25-2005, 01:10 PM
Link?
http://www.6speedonline.com/forums/showthread.php?s=308b66cd4e9bfb949c6f760f61e7a00e&threadid=24111&perpage=15&pagenumber=1
there you go.
crayzayjay
04-25-2005, 01:48 PM
thanks :)
he was racing his Carrera GT against his friend koenigsegg which was ahed at the time..
Well - considering this is real life and not PGR2 - maybe the message is don't do this kind of shit on roads that have obstacles around...
This is the reason tracks have sand traps and runoff and barriers.
It's a tragic loss of life - but hardly a "surprise accident".
Sometimes Darwin needs to cull the herd a little...
SFDMALEX
04-26-2005, 05:23 PM
Ey at least he died high on adrenaline. Much rather die doing 300 in a Ferrari then die old an ugly....its tragic but its the way to die..............as twisted as that might sound/
Ey at least he died high on adrenaline. Much rather die doing 300 in a Ferrari then die old an ugly....its tragic but its the way to die..............as twisted as that might sound/
id rather die having sex with Adrianna Lima and Vida Guerra at the same time. 8)
Ey at least he died high on adrenaline. Much rather die doing 300 in a Ferrari then die old an ugly....its tragic but its the way to die..............as twisted as that might sound/
id rather die having sex with Adrianna Lima and Vida Guerra at the same time. 8)
LoL..
Will take Blah way of death.. :D
crayzayjay
04-27-2005, 07:09 AM
Ey at least he died high on adrenaline. Much rather die doing 300 in a Ferrari then die old an ugly....its tragic but its the way to die..............as twisted as that might sound/
I wouldn't. I'd rather drive at 300kmh and survive to tell the tale. The romanticisation of early death is not something i buy into. Dying at 24 isn't the way to go, you haven't lived if you die at 24. Not to mention the loved ones you leave behind and the effect your death has on them.
I'll take old and ugly, thanks.
bultaco_metralla
04-27-2005, 07:31 AM
wow, what a sad story...many friend of mine have big cars !!! like astra turbo, Lancia HF, Audi S3, Leon Cupra... they have learned to drive with that cars, and of course they had big accidents..., not like this :? ...I learned to drive with a fiat uno 45 bhp, always running as fast it could, learning to drift, aquaplaning etc... then i passed to my mothers 65 bhp for twice month... now im with my 85 bhp Getz and sometimes my ftahers mitshu 160 bhp... now i take my friends cars in small circuits and i drive faster and more secure than them, and its not my opinion, its my friends opinion.
I think its better to learn with small cars and as time passes going to moe powerfull cars... and offcourse: CITY IS NOT A CIRCUIT !!!
RIP that very young guy !!
stradale
04-27-2005, 05:05 PM
Sad, sad stories... :(
I think it's probably the period of a few months after getting a car like that that are most dangerous. The moment you think you've got the car figured out and reach that false sense of security is when it gets tricky. These cars require all attention with driving anyway.
Track time and a few thousands of kms on the road aren't enough preparation for driving high performance cars fast AND safe. IMO everyone who buys a car like that should be aware of it and do an advanced driving course for road driving. Experienced trainers can teach everyone a lot of useful additional skills and give drivers new insight.
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