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MercedeSChink
04-19-2005, 01:09 PM
Just watchin CNN, new pope has been elected...how old is the new pope btw!?
Caplax40
04-19-2005, 01:11 PM
http://www.motorworld.net/forum/showthread.php?p=388771#388771
antonioledesma
04-19-2005, 01:11 PM
just by a couple of minutes it's a repost:

http://www.motorworld.net/forum/showthread.php?p=388771#388771

and he has 78 years, a little old for a new pope

and caplax won by posting earlier by a minute
ZfrkS62
04-19-2005, 01:12 PM
78 if i remember the Fox report correctly. Oldest Cardinal to ascend to the position in over a century.

How do they come up with the names for the pope? His real name can't possibly be Benedict the 16th can it?
gobs3z
04-19-2005, 01:18 PM
It's Joseph Ratzinger, this pope was unexpected.
ZfrkS62
04-19-2005, 01:22 PM
It's Joseph Ratzinger, this pope was unexpected.

From what i understand, he was the front runner from the word go.
evoWalo
04-19-2005, 01:29 PM
I was hoping for a Latin American/African/Asian Pope.
gobs3z
04-19-2005, 01:30 PM
It's Joseph Ratzinger, this pope was unexpected.

From what i understand, he was the front runner from the word go.

It seemed everyone was fixed on an Italian pope, so i guess thats why i surprised, but it seemed the Cardinal from Niger was actually up there too, i wanted him to get chosen.
MercedeSChink
04-19-2005, 01:33 PM
Ratzinger is one of the preferitis of this conclave...and as my understanding, the cardinals in order to be elected, the cardinals must be between the ages of 60 to 80...and yes, this is one of the oldest popes elected...
MercedeSChink
04-19-2005, 02:30 PM
he's actually anti nazi...he was forced into the german army durin the nazi era...he decided to runaway or something and was held captive as a US POW...afterwards he joined the seminary...
evoWalo
04-19-2005, 02:32 PM
The Pope was drafted into the German anti-aircraft corps, responsible for the guarding of a BMW plant outside Munich. He deserted afterwards.

As a 94 year old I'd think you wouldnt mind someone so young to being Pope. ;)
HeilSvenska
04-19-2005, 06:58 PM
Hey, do you think this pope will get a Ferrari too? Or a Porsche?
FerrariFerrari
04-19-2005, 10:51 PM
the cardinals must be between the ages of 60 to 80...and yes, this is one of the oldest popes elected...
why bring someone into power who is so old??
Pope John Paul II was only 55 when he was elected But this time they didn't want a pope
that was too young because they don't like the idea of a long papal reign(not that they
didn't like JPII :wink: who by the way was the third longest reigning pope ever).
evoWalo
04-19-2005, 11:03 PM
A BMW perhaps? Pope Benedictine in an M5.
ZfrkS62
04-19-2005, 11:09 PM
A BMW perhaps? Pope Benedictine in an M5.

Unfortunatley, as old as he is, he'll probably go Merc :?
evoWalo
04-19-2005, 11:19 PM
A BMW perhaps? Pope Benedictine in an M5.

Unfortunatley, as old as he is, he'll probably go Merc :?
Like the CLS perhaps? :)
MercedeSChink
04-19-2005, 11:19 PM
55!? really? i didn't know that, i always thought the rule was 60 to 80...
evoWalo
04-19-2005, 11:26 PM
55!? really? i didn't know that, i always thought the rule was 60 to 80...
The rule is any Roman Catholic Male. If the Cardinals saw it fit I could've been the next pope. The age rule comes into play when you're one of the Cardinals who'll be voting.
SKYLiNE_R33
04-19-2005, 11:43 PM
http://www.motorworld.net/forum/showthread.php?p=388771#388771

just by a couple of minutes it's a repost:

http://www.motorworld.net/forum/showthread.php?p=388771#388771

and he has 78 years, a little old for a new pope

and caplax won by posting earlier by a minute


I'm not locking this because many people just don't go into the political forum :wink:
gobs3z
04-19-2005, 11:45 PM
I've been hearing how conservative this new pope is and he might want to not recognize U.S. catholism, i don't really care cause i'm not catholic but the church needs to grow with the times.
ZfrkS62
04-20-2005, 12:00 AM
http://www.motorworld.net/forum/showthread.php?p=388771#388771

just by a couple of minutes it's a repost:

http://www.motorworld.net/forum/showthread.php?p=388771#388771

and he has 78 years, a little old for a new pope

and caplax won by posting earlier by a minute


I'm not locking this because many people just don't go into the political forum :wink:

Not to mention the fact TT already locked that one just to prevent another flame war :wink:


gobs- how many years did it take the catholic church to recognize gallileo's work? the key word there being GALLILEO :wink: I belive it was JPII who finally pradoned him, centuries after his death.

I really was hoping they would have chosen a pope who woud have continued the modernization of catholocism, but it looks like they will be taking a few steps back. But then again, this guy is 78, so for all we know we could be having this same discussion about the next pope by this time 2007 :lol:
evoWalo
04-20-2005, 12:14 AM
Why would anyone have a flame war over Pope Benedict. Oh... right... ;)

I think the Pope John Paul II apologised for the persecution of the Italian scientist and philosopher Galileo Galilei. I am unsure if he recognized his work though. So long as Benedict sticks to the path Pope John Paul II started I see no reason to worry.
MercedeSChink
04-20-2005, 12:16 AM
yeah, i recently read angels and demons...pretty interesting, claimin galileo as illuminati and shit...
evoWalo
04-20-2005, 12:21 AM
MercedeSChink: work of fiction which the author brilliantly wrote to generate as much attention as possible.
Roadster44
04-20-2005, 01:04 AM
Why would anyone have a flame war over Pope Benedict.

probably the same reason some people want to say he's a nazi in this topic :!:
evoWalo
04-20-2005, 01:25 AM
A poorly researched "fact". Being drafted into the Hitler Youth doesnt automatically make you a Nazi. At worse Pope Benedict can be called a diserter.
gobs3z
04-20-2005, 01:36 AM
gobs- how many years did it take the catholic church to recognize gallileo's work? the key word there being GALLILEO I belive it was JPII who finally pradoned him, centuries after his death.

I really was hoping they would have chosen a pope who woud have continued the modernization of catholocism, but it looks like they will be taking a few steps back. But then again, this guy is 78, so for all we know we could be having this same discussion about the next pope by this time 2007


I'm just thinking the consequence that will happen because of there very conservative veiws, very few organizations (i consider this an organization) that don't modernize their veiws get screwed in the end. There's a Priest in New Zeland that isn't recognized by the church anymore since he has a women preist as a co-priest(not sure what you would call it). At least let the preist get some ass through marriage. :D
evoWalo
04-20-2005, 10:43 AM
A poorly researched "fact". Being drafted into the Hitler Youth doesnt automatically make you a Nazi. At worse Pope Benedict can be called a diserter.

he wasnt drafted, he went under his own free will.
How do you know? In Iraq a lot of young men were drafted to defend Sadam from the US military. That doesnt mean they were evil people.

Seeming the new Pope's german maybe we'll see this as his new popemobile.

http://www.imagehostingsite.com/userfiles/asamofal/new%20popemobile.jpg
RC45
04-20-2005, 11:25 AM
For the record I am making no material content contributions to the subject of this thread - and am just stopping by to note an observation:

The the same radical leftwing minded characters are already playing their normal roles and antagonising the decent folks.. ;)

Seems that "they" are the common denominator of upheavel in many threads...

...just some food for thought. :)

I will again withdraw to the sidelines. Bubye.
FerrariFerrari
04-20-2005, 11:11 PM
If I'm am not mistaken the Catholic faith is a conservatively minded faith so I think
that most popes weather young or old would tend to lean in the conservative direction.
It's just part of being a Catholic. :wink:
ZfrkS62
04-20-2005, 11:15 PM
If I'm am not mistaken the Catholic faith is a conservatively minded faith so I think
that most popes weather young or old would tend to lean in the conservative direction.
It's just part of being a Catholic. :wink:


this is true, but within conservative institution there still lies liberals. maybe not in the sense that you and i think of, but more to the point where they will accept change instead of forcing it. :wink:
nthfinity
04-21-2005, 12:19 AM
ok, i have this to say...

how can 'liberal catholics' expect that the pope (this or any) is charged with modernizing the religion...

it is impossible to rewright the scripture, and if the pope is charged with leading based upon the bible/ life of Jesus, i dont see how that can be seen as political in any way, shape or form... it is specifically the way it is, and free from right/left wing pollitics.

JP II was seen as a pollitical figure for his role in rejecting oppresive communism... but it was communism that interferred with Christian beliefes and moral in accordance to the scripture... including personal freedoms

i hear it on NPR/CBS/CNN on how this guy was head of the department formerly known as the inquisition... which historically we relate to terrible attrocities in old whitch and herecy hunts (renesance scientists for example) this is far from the case today in the Catholic church, where new science is far from herecy.

Benedict XVI simply has a history of upholding the church, and scripture... and not recognising things such as homosexuality as a valid, and holy matramony; as well as celebacy/women priesthood and relating that christianity is the one true way to salvation. -- and contraception

the world press is all too quick to jump on this new papacy

although i am not catholic, i wish him well, and a long papacy
possessed_beaver
04-21-2005, 09:05 AM
im real happy with the new pope :roll:

just what the church needs to go back.. ohh lets say another 50 years....

nice work!
FerrariFerrari
04-21-2005, 11:45 PM
how can 'liberal catholics' expect that the pope (this or any) is charged with modernizing the religion...

it is impossible to rewright the scripture, and if the pope is charged with leading based upon the bible/ life of Jesus, i dont see how that can be seen as political in any way, shape or form... it is specifically the way it is, and free from right/left wing pollitics.

JP II was seen as a pollitical figure for his role in rejecting oppresive communism... but it was communism that interferred with Christian beliefes and moral in accordance to the scripture... including personal freedoms
That's what I was saying. He's sticking to the Catholic faith and it's teachings. If
you disagree with the catholic teachings than you're not a catholic and it doesn't
concern you. Forgive me if I am being a little bit blunt, I am actually very understanding. :wink: :D

this is true, but within conservative institution there still lies liberals. maybe not in the sense that you and i think of, but more to the point where they will accept change instead of forcing it. Wink
Some things don't change. Just think about it, are you going to be more
likely to have faith in something that doesn't change or something that does change. I wouldn't want to be part of a religion that changed every
10 years.
mrzonda
04-22-2005, 01:18 AM
i think you hit the nail on the head, nthfinity.

btw, all german youth were enrolled in the 'hitler youth,' whether they liked it or not.
possessed_beaver
04-22-2005, 10:47 AM
The Catholic had no trouble accepting evolution..

and the creation of the universe from the big bang...
MercedeSChink
04-22-2005, 03:45 PM
oh my, i didn't expect this post to last up to 3 pages...anyways i've heard this new pope is very conservative, does this mean watever JPII has done previously, the church is gonna back track!?
ae86_16v
04-23-2005, 02:31 AM
I don't know about you guys, but the pictures of him does not seem very warming. Maybe it is just his demenor and he is old.

oh my, i didn't expect this post to last up to 3 pages...anyways i've heard this new pope is very conservative, does this mean watever JPII has done previously, the church is gonna back track!?

Actually he was practically John Paul's right hand man. And if you remember correctly John Paul was pretty conservative too, especially when it came to Church Doctrines.

Most likely he'll stick along the same lines.
ZfrkS62
04-23-2005, 02:51 AM
I don't know about you guys, but the pictures of him does not seem very warming


Go check out the Emperor Popeltine thread in Jokes and Humor :D
ae86_16v
04-23-2005, 01:51 PM
I don't know about you guys, but the pictures of him does not seem very warming


Go check out the Emperor Popeltine thread in Jokes and Humor :D

Holy shit, I was just thinking about the exact same thing last night after I made this post. I was thinking, you know he looks like the Emperor from Star Wars.

Hahhaha. . . uncanny.