View Full Version : Can money buy you happiness? Please Post.
Nemisis8u
10-30-2003, 07:41 PM
I’m doing an essay for English and need your help. I just want to know what you guys think. This is the perfect place to ask because there are a lot of different age groups. So please vote and drop me a quick line. Any feedback is greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance.
That's a classic question and I think 90% of us had to answer it while at school, in whatever language ;)
Of course to answer in my own mother language would be easier, so in english I have to be pretty simple and short, to avoid going out of track ;)
But basically, with the question as it is, my simple answer is "YES". Obviously you can throw yourself into a long and terrible discussion about the meaning of happiness, its psicological meaning and so on... but to stay with the feet well planted on the ground, basically yes, money can buy happiness for the average guy/gal... of course if there are major problems in the background, think about bad illness or other sad things, well, money can be as useless as many other things and only feelings, love and friendship will be able to help, but as I said, for the average guy, money can buy a nice car -> happiness, money can buy you marvellous trips around the world -> happiness
money can buy you the things you need/want -> happiness :)
To sum it up: "yes" :D
Nemisis8u
10-30-2003, 07:54 PM
Thnx a lot, somehow I knew that yours will be the first post :D .
Yeh, it's not only for the vids topics as you can see :)
That's just that I like to read (and have to) everything that's going on at JW :) and if I have something to say, BANG, post! :D
Johns
10-30-2003, 08:27 PM
IMO
If u werent born rich and u get rich= yes
If u were born rich = no
SFDMALEX
10-30-2003, 08:35 PM
Can money buy you happiness? Defenetly. With the way my life is now, money can bring me a lot of happines. Money can buy me things that I want, like some Ferraris and Porshces. Money can buy me and my friends a trip to Maranello. All these things bring happiness.
We spend 90% of our lifes, learning how to make money, and actually making money. Why do we do this? Because we need money. Why do we need money? To survive and have fun when we retire.
And think about these scenarios, which one will make you happier?
1 Your broke, you got to pay rent in few days and your on your way to becoming bankrupt.
2. You got a lot of money, your rent is fine and your out of debt with the bank.
Whats common in these two scenarios? Money. Which scenario is better? Then one with more money involved.
BADMIHAI
10-30-2003, 08:51 PM
NO FUCKING WAY! NO MOTHERFUCKING WAY! True happyines does not come from material things!
Yeh true... but try to think about it a little more.. money doesn't delete all the rest.. it adds up...
SFDMALEX
10-30-2003, 09:17 PM
NO FUCKING WAY! NO MOTHERFUCKING WAY! True happyines does not come from material things!
What does it come from then? Living in the ghetto and being loved by someone?
Maybe there are multiple defenetions of happines but my'n doesnt say that you dont need money to be happy.
Nemisis8u
10-30-2003, 09:32 PM
These are great. Thnx a lot guys, keep them coming.
Chaos in 1983!
10-30-2003, 10:04 PM
I think it does, I mean give me enough for a few ferraris, and enough to mantain them, to be able to party every fucking night of the week without having to think about the bill, to be able to travel around the world and say dude I won't be able to party this saturday becasue I'll be in Maranello picking up my new Enzo!....sure I'd be jumping from happiness.
hemi_fan
10-30-2003, 11:06 PM
I believe yes, material objects can bring plenty of happiness into ones life. Although money cant buy love (usually)
f0racer
10-30-2003, 11:14 PM
A quote from billionaire Donald Trump - "Money cant' buy true happiness, but it does help."
stracing
10-30-2003, 11:29 PM
I believe yes, material objects can bring plenty of happiness into ones life. Although money cant buy love (usually)
you can buy a lot of sex though hehe
i say yes, at least i won't have any financial worries.
volvoman
10-31-2003, 12:10 AM
do you think trumo is happy, he'll never have a person that loves him for him. sure having sex with those models is nice but he'll ask, "was i good in bed" and she'll say with dolar signs in her eyes, "the best donald!!!" -->is that happiness?
sure you'll be able to buy all the cars you want but that will spoil you. how much more happiness will a ferrari get, how long will that last? then after you have the ferrar, what else? you buy more? what about friends, you will never have real friends again, no matter what you think. even old good friends will be your friends cuz they know they can leech off of your riches. -->is that happiness??
you'll have a real hard time finding a wife to share your happiness with. how will see through your money to find the real you? you'll be a lonely person in your ferrari or other car. you'll also risk woman tryin to get pregnant by you to get money for their child and themselves. look at rolling stones' mcjagger, perfect example. he has to pay money to some bitch he dont want to be with for some kid he never wanted. ---->is that happiness??
true happiness is long lasting, working at a job you love to go to, marrying someone that has you walking on air, if you want them, having kids and raising them to be great adults. what most of you r talkin about is pleasure. pleasure is not long lasting, driving a car, whatever it is, is pleasure, sex with any woman you want and lasting as long as you can is pleasure, being able to buy anything you want is pleasure, that will get old too.
i vote for no, of course its great to have nice things and have tons of money but in the end you are better off without it. finding true happiness in life is a greater wealth than any dollar amount.
volvoman
10-31-2003, 12:13 AM
any financial worries are created by you anyway. you are the one that decides to buy that big screen tv and have the interest accumulate on your credit card, if anyone has financial worries then they are spending more than what they can afford and heve themselves to blame.
stracing
10-31-2003, 12:57 AM
i was thinking more on the lines of providing a house, education, food and medicine. those are my biggest worries, not worried about not affording that ferrari.
cho_888
10-31-2003, 02:39 AM
a money can buy you pleasure and it can by you "fun"but that soon wears of and dosnt leave you happy. but on the other hand it can buy you love in the form of a ferrari!
WhiteP
10-31-2003, 04:47 AM
Yes, when I have nothing to worry, my parents' health, my own's health, their relationship....
I think money can only make you "happier" but not "happy"...
if people isn't in good health, even they have so much money.. they can only be happier because they don't need to worry about money.. overall they still aren't happy at all...
health, relationship, all the same...
For me yes..
When u got the money u can buy everything that makes u happy happy and happy.. Cars houses sex etc.. Everything..
The point is this.. Everybody is smilin at your face because of your money.. And u are deceivin your self with money again..
I choose yes because livin in this style is nearly better than the living with the other lifestyles.. Like bein poor or somethin else..
Fluxlo
10-31-2003, 12:43 PM
I very much agree with justin.
Money can fill your need (want) for material possessions, houses, cars, boats, jewelery, etc. But in life what do you get the most happiness out of (rather what do you get true happiness out of)? For example, i just bought a new set of speakers for my computer for around 200$, and they're fantastic, they're satisfying to listen to, but it's not like i bought them and all of a sudden i was alot happier. Yes I can really enjoy music, and piss off my floormates but other then that...what do i get out of em? Not happiness. I get happiness out of socializing (drinking heavily) with my friends on the floor, spending time with em, etc etc. Though I am only a university student (which means (at least 99% of the time) i'm far from rich), I think my point of view is acceptable.
BADMIHAI
10-31-2003, 01:16 PM
The thing is....when you have lots of money you just want MORE anyways! So that 360 will not make you happy, because it's not an Enzo and so on. And that Enzo will not make you happy because it's not a Ferrari GTO....
Happyiness comes from inside!
The thing is....when you have lots of money you just want MORE anyways! So that 360 will not make you happy, because it's not an Enzo and so on. And that Enzo will not make you happy because it's not a Ferrari GTO....
Happyiness comes from inside!
That's your point of view :) There are lot of ppl able to appreciate "even" a Modena :D and IMO money doesn't makes you a monster only wanting more..
And sure, happiness comes from inside, but when you have lot of money you still have your "inside" part ;)
And to act like money is completely useless and to say it's better to be copletely poor but lovely inside seems to me a very hypocrite behaviour...
It's always better to be beautiful, rich and healty instead of ugly, poor and sick...
Johns
10-31-2003, 01:48 PM
I dont know about u guys but I rather live an unhappy life with money up the ass then, broke and happy 0X
Jabba
10-31-2003, 02:00 PM
The thing is....when you have lots of money you just want MORE anyways! So that 360 will not make you happy, because it's not an Enzo and so on. And that Enzo will not make you happy because it's not a Ferrari GTO....
Happyiness comes from inside!
No disrespect or anything but considering your only 16 years old I cannot understand how your such an expert on this subject already....
i cant say that i have much more experience than badmihai, but does that mean that children are never happy, seeing as they just live off their parents?
IMO there is an age at which one becomes conscious of external wants/needs and from then on happiness is proportional. Some ppl never reach this ie hippies right? one of the best quotes i can remember relating to this topic is "happiness is contentment" or in other words being happy with what you have adandtnotanting more, not necessarily material goods but more so state of mind and body. I'm sure one can argue that you be content with buying more things, but are those pupurchasesoing to improve your standard of living after a certain point or will it make life a little more meaningless? I believe that money is essentially a reward for people who work hard.
to sum it up...and sorry for the rambling..even i'm not too sure what i was talking bout.... money can buy temporary happiness, but lasting happiness comes from within. :)
BADMIHAI
10-31-2003, 03:05 PM
And to act like money is completely useless and to say it's better to be copletely poor but lovely inside seems to me a very hypocrite behaviour...
I didn't say money is useless. We all "need" it....I was just underlining that having alot of money doesn't make you happy. Out of all the rich people I know (friends of my dad's) and theyr kids (especially theyr kids-I know them better than I do theyr parents), none of them seem happy. On the contrary, they're depressed. That's another reason why I'm not with my dad right now. He didn't really have too much time for me anymore. Always on a business trip and shit like that. And even he told me that altough his dream was to make lots of money, when he saw it come through, he didn't feel happy to be rich.
Sure, have a busy life to gain money is maybe consuming, but it's not the money that makes ppl unappy or very busy.. it's basically their job... usually when somebody win some millions at the lottery, he is pretty happy afaik...
volvoman
10-31-2003, 04:05 PM
and no one is saying that beiong poor is best.
why not having a middle income, $60,000-$100,000 will make me happy. and you wont be spoiled by tons of money.
dreamin of a large amount of wealth and wanting it is not happiness.
Yeh, and that is already considered "money"... in my first post I wasn't referring at big amount of money at all :)
I'd sign anyway to have 100'000 USD/year :D
SFDMALEX
10-31-2003, 06:24 PM
[quote="justin syder"]why not having a middle income, $60,000-$100,000 quote]
$100 000 is not really a middle income. Thats over about $8300 month. With this kind of money I can afford to pay off a good house, and pay off a new ferrari 360 and still have plenty of money for good food and some for my savings account. Thats kinda rich.
I'd consider $60 000 to be a stable middle class income in Canada.
Nemisis8u
10-31-2003, 06:31 PM
I would have to say that money does buy you happiness. No body Likes to be in debt, or live from pay cheque to pay cheque. Money will get you a good education, a nice house, a nice car. It can be less stressful because money problems would be non existent. All your other stress can be taken care of with a nice trip to some exotic place. Its only if you become careless and start spending your money away on things such as drugs, that money will not bring you happiness. It can also bring you love, but to an extent. Who wants to marry a poor person? So I say yes it can bring you happiness.
Chingachgook
11-01-2003, 04:34 AM
I agree with John's opinion.
IMO
If u werent born rich and u get rich= yes
If u were born rich = no
But basically money can make me very happy, but true happiness doesn't come from material things...it's the love, the family, goood health...even money can help, but I prefere a normal economic situation and a beautiful family.
Sorry for my short and simple way to answer, but it would be simple in my mother language.
Only the very broke or very wealthy will say money cannot buy happiness... but the truth is Cash Money is happiness... and for everything else, there's Mastercard... :)
Jabba
11-03-2003, 11:04 AM
but the truth is Cash Money is happiness... and for everything else, there's Mastercard... :)
LMAO !!
Anyone who has seen st-angers latest CGT video should remember the look on that guys face that has just started the CGT up...if that isn't a look of happiness then what is...hell I was smiling just as much just listening to the sound of that beauty.....
You need money to buy the CGT of course therefore it can buy you happiness...if you're not happy listening to that car...then WTF are you doing in this forum ??? (also goes for the enzo of course)
Ivanhoe
11-03-2003, 11:53 PM
It sure as hell helps! :roll: :mrgreen:
PATo355
11-04-2003, 12:01 AM
[quote=justin syder]why not having a middle income, $60,000-$100,000 quote]
I'd consider $60 000 to be a stable middle class income in Canada.
Fuck , in Chile 8000 dollars is a stable middle class income , 20000 is already upper class !!!!
My country is certainly poor !!!
DeMoN
11-04-2003, 12:06 AM
Depending on your definition of happiness. Genarlly speaking, no matter what type of defenition you have for happines, money can pretty damn close make you feal just as happy as your ultimate happiness idea. Money can satisfy you weather you want a great collection of cars or can buy you hookers if you want to be loved. If you really want to be loved, you could use your money for charity and you'd be loved by plenty of people. I know this is a dumb example, but I cant think right now it is too late. But I know if you give it some thiught, it all comes down to the one liner which can be used as your thesis:
Money can buy you happiness, even if it cant buy you the happiness you want, you get can get pretty damn close to the happiness you would get from your ultimate happines but in a money way.
volvoman
11-04-2003, 01:37 AM
it can create a false sense of happiness.
picture this, you have sex with models, perfect tens, you drive any car u want cuz u bought it but at the end of the day you go home to a big mansion, maybe with a butler, and you are alone. you go to sleep after having sex with perfect woman but have none by ur side to share life with. but then again it does go to the meaning of happiness for you.
but you could also look at donald trump, if he was sooo happy why did he get married, he can get any girl he wants to fuck but he dates a few for a while, why? especially when you can have a revolving door to your bedroom why waste time being with one woman. he is tryin to get what he cant buy, love. no one really mentioned this, i think.
Jabba
11-04-2003, 06:39 AM
Why look at donald trump....everyone is different...you could also say donald trump could buy every decent car on the planet (I am sure he has a few) but he doesn't because cars are not his thing....does bill gates own a Mclaren F1, Enzo, CGT, Zonda, Stradale (and all our other favourites)....we all know that he could easily afford these cars (and buy the actual manufacturers as well just for fun) but again it seems cars are not 100 % his life either...
I find almost all woman to be annoying nagging bitches and a complete pain in the ass.... that only serve two purposes.... to provide food and sex....I am sure some people require the security of being loved and perhaps married....but I wouldn't think that applies to everyone....
I am just a simple man that only requires a few nice cars, a warm house, a broadband internet connection, car related forums to browse (especially JW), top gear (and most other car related shows) and most important of all.... TIME and the freedom to live life as I choose as a result of not having to worry about money to much....I can confirm I am very happy indeed thanks.... :D
Tumbler
11-04-2003, 06:50 AM
yeah i would be happier with more money...
and the more money the better :)
fishfreek
11-04-2003, 09:50 AM
I answered YES simply because 90% of my stress that leads to unhappyness is a result of managing the monthly bills as a result of having a wife who has been unemployeed longer than she has been employeed over the last few years.
Having the debt totally disolved would make ther perverbial 'happyness' alot closer.
:)
Jabba
11-04-2003, 09:58 AM
having a wife who has been unemployeed longer than she has been employeed over the last few years.
Funny....I used to live with someone just like that....also did far to much moaning OUTSIDE of the bedroom... :P
fishfreek
11-04-2003, 10:03 AM
No shit. Really rings my coller. The new job that she hopefully will be hired for (already went thru the interview process, piss test, etc and just waiting to hear back) is supposed to be a job that she thinks she will really enjoy. It dont pay much, only $9/hr, but if she can acutally get close to 40hrs a week that will help out alot.
Her last three jobs they promised her 40hrs a week and the reality was more like 15-20. Lying bastards.
Jabba
11-04-2003, 10:09 AM
Her last three jobs they promised her 40hrs a week and the reality was more like 15-20. Lying bastards.
Sounds like you wanna keep her outside the house for as long as possible fishfreek...LMAO !!!!
st-anger
11-04-2003, 02:55 PM
i think it depends...
i mean i´m probably the oldest here on JW and experienced so many things in my life and some of them wouldn`t have been possible without having quite some money. from that point of view, i`d vote with "yes", with the money i´ve earned so far i could easily sit back right now, doing nothing ´till my time´s over and i still would have a perfect life, i even could buy myself a CGT, referring to what jabba mentioned from the vid of my friend, BUT on the other hand when you ask yourself "can money buy REAL happiness" and you`re seriously sick or something like that, what do you with all the money then??? are you happy with all the money and your wife just loves you because of the money??? i mean i´ve mentioned that some time ago when someone asked me if i´ll buy a 452000€ car and i said no! why???
the answer is very simply, i can buy a CGT but i can`t buy the love of the person i`d die for, and when my wife asked me not to spend so much money for a "silly" car it was absolutely clear not to buy it...
what i´ll try to express with this, money makes my life quite comfortable i would be able to buy nearly all the things i`d like to have, but IMO it´s more important to be happy that you are healthful and to have some ppl around you that are loving you like you are, and not because of the money... money is one of the biggest scourges of mankind :roll:
finally i voted with NO....
fedezyl
11-04-2003, 03:41 PM
Couldn't agree more with you St-anger, money can make things easier, but ultimately it's love that makes you happy, and love you can't buy... :)
Couldn't agree more with you St-anger, money can make things easier, but ultimately it's love that makes you happy, and love you can't buy... :)
Much more easily said when you already have more than you need.. ;)
That's why this statement is normally only made by the extremely poor - or extremely wealthy.
The extremely wealthy can make the statement with conviction, because honestly, money is no longer a problem and the "meaning of life" has taken on a new meaning.
The extremely poor can make that statement, because more than likely, they will never have any more and sitting worrying about not having money detracts from the "survival" they need to engage in to live.
For the rest of us "middle-income" saps that are the tax-bearers for each of the nations we live in, the burden of "keeping going" is what makes the "I would be happier with more money" statement a true fact.
:)
Imagine for one minute all you had was gone... and all you were left with was the "loved ones" - no rent money, no house, no food, no rich unlce or parent to bail you out - and the prospect of a bill collector knocking on the door of the apartment you can't pay rent on... is that true happiness? ;)
fedezyl
11-04-2003, 04:18 PM
well I think love is truly what brings you happiness, it's the only thing you see in every animal, every human being, no matter where they live, even if it's in the middle of the amazonian jungle (where money does not exist), love is still the only thing that brings happiness to them...so my answer is still no, money is not the only thing that makes you unhappy, illness, loss of a loved one or loved object, but it's always that love for someone that makes you happy, no matter what your situation is...
Jabba
11-04-2003, 07:37 PM
even if it's in the middle of the amazonian jungle (where money does not exist), love is still the only thing that brings happiness to them
Thats fine for animals or people living in the jungle or even in the land of the fairies for that matter...I think your over doing it on the "love" issue...your beginning to sound like tree hugging pot smoking hippies from the sixtys...
Let gets practical and lets get back into the real world for a minute...and sad though it may be...it is indeed "money" that makes the "real" world go round...as they say.... :P
ferrari550
11-04-2003, 08:55 PM
i guess it depends really. money can buy you some point of happiness but it cannot give you the same things that like friends and family can do.
I think money can provide me with a big chunk of happiness. but not to the full extent.
i guess it depends really. money can buy you some point of happiness but it cannot give you the same things that like friends and family can do.
I think money can provide me with a big chunk of happiness. but not to the full extent.
This is true - but remember, with sufficient money, you have the freedom to devote all your efforts to your family and loved ones.
As a "middle class" working parent, I know that my motivation is still to, within a reasonable amount of time, accumulate sufficient money to be able to choose how I spend my time and effort with my loved ones and family.
:)
fedezyl
11-04-2003, 11:29 PM
^^^^^ Damn capitalists!! all you guys care about is money!
It's true that money satisfies all your material needs, and even as some people said here that money, or not worrying about it makes you happy, what it does in reality is give you time, stress free time to enjoy the things that makes you happy, thereof happiness does not depend on money but on non material things, like friendship, love for a woman or man (maybe there are some here at JW who knows, :roll: ) money is not directly the cause of your happiness, but something that may, in most cases, make it easier for you to enjoy happiness
My point being that it doesn't really matter if you are rich or not, your happiness exists, having money may make it a bit easier to get it, but in reality it doesn't necessarely depend on money...get it?? :D
fedezyl
11-04-2003, 11:32 PM
And Jabba, I do occasionally get the green stuff, sadly i'm getting some checks done so I can't consume anything of that sort... :mrgreen:
And anyways isn't it cool to LOOOOOOOOVEEEEEEE YAAAY BABY!! :mrgreen: sorry got a bit carried away...been listening to The Beatles a bit to much I guess....lol :D
I get your point mate, got a bit carried away, but it's kinda hard to get your point accross in phylosophy when english isn't your first language... :?
volvoman
11-05-2003, 12:33 AM
its very good to have money and even enough to live very secure and stress free but to simply put it, if you are on a uninhabitated island with either friends/family/loved one, how much happiness can a ferrari or money bring you in that situation. a choose between my own island with a track and a few exotics and tons of lavish things or friends, family, a wife i would not choose money and wealth.
It brings pleasure, you drive a nice car, you buy anything you want, waking up in an exopensive hotel in a country you always wanted to visit, you get pleasure. as opposed to not worrying about bills, having a job you love to do, (running the best car/forum site is an example) having people around you being happy with who you are, being able to love who you are as a person, all these are things that money has no link to, even not worrying about bills, you will have bills that stress you out if you spend more than you can afford.
i try to make it concise and look what i get.
DeMoN
11-05-2003, 01:10 AM
Love brings happiness? Sure it does, however, it also brings TERRIBLE results! There is NO all happy marriage. There are always ups and downs. Having all the money in you want may not buy you totall happiness, but it will give you less troubles than loving someone.
Tumbler
11-05-2003, 05:06 AM
haha demon talk to my mum, she loves marrage.
been married twice and looking for a third time :lol: :lol: :lol:
Jabba
11-05-2003, 05:23 AM
^^^^^ Damn capitalists!! all you guys care about is money!
thereof happiness does not depend on money but on non material things
Believe it or not JW costs money to run, it is a material item and seems to make people happy....including you... otherwise presumably you wouldn't still be here....
cho_888
11-05-2003, 06:03 AM
how much does a forum like this cost to run? hosting and stuff? you had to buy the title and internet connect ect...all adds up.
flat6
01-11-2004, 06:51 PM
I'd guess a few hundred a month, but only Jabba really knows... as a fellow webmaster, I can tell you it's a lot more than people think, and even rather text-based things can rack up costs in a hurry. If you start providing images and ESPECIALLY videos (the reason for 'special JW members', I'd venture) it becomes obscenely expensive. Even traditional income methods like banner ads don't do anything: have a look at supercars.net for a site that's flooded with annoying ads trying to generate revenue to cover its bandwith. Most car - hell, most any time of sites have a very difficult time covering their costs, much less being profitable. My guess is that Jabba takes a hefty hit out of his pocket for the enjoyment of the community, as well as running a slight risk with copyright issues.
Overmind
01-11-2004, 08:21 PM
well, I'd say that indeed "money ONLY" can hardly buy you real happiness, you also need BRAIN, I mean It much more depends on each indidual... but being rich doesn't prevent you from beeing happy either... wealth can help you make your dreams come true, help achiev your lifes goals etc.
so, to answer the question... money as an ingredient can make you happier, but it won't "buy" the happiness.
Jabba
01-11-2004, 09:14 PM
My guess is that Jabba takes a hefty hit out of his pocket for the enjoyment of the community, as well as running a slight risk with copyright issues.
Correct and also a fair amount of my time as well.
pimrusis
01-11-2004, 10:58 PM
No, my family has money and I lack nothing in material goods... yet I still want to kill myself.
No, my family has money and I lack nothing in material goods... yet I still want to kill myself.
...and now I should feel sorry for you - sorry chum, I need the energy to live my life...
corvette97
01-12-2004, 02:24 AM
money cant buy happiness, but can buy material goods that may bring happiness, (totally agree with overmind), TG, i dont really need anything, but as life goes on, dream appear, and makes u want to have material goods, i think its ok while u take care of the spiritual and emotive side of u!
Copso
01-14-2004, 07:08 AM
do you think trumo is happy, he'll never have a person that loves him for him. sure having sex with those models is nice but he'll ask, "was i good in bed" and she'll say with dolar signs in her eyes, "the best donald!!!" -->is that happiness?
sure you'll be able to buy all the cars you want but that will spoil you. how much more happiness will a ferrari get, how long will that last? then after you have the ferrar, what else? you buy more? what about friends, you will never have real friends again, no matter what you think. even old good friends will be your friends cuz they know they can leech off of your riches. -->is that happiness??
you'll have a real hard time finding a wife to share your happiness with. how will see through your money to find the real you? you'll be a lonely person in your ferrari or other car. you'll also risk woman tryin to get pregnant by you to get money for their child and themselves. look at rolling stones' mcjagger, perfect example. he has to pay money to some bitch he dont want to be with for some kid he never wanted. ---->is that happiness??
true happiness is long lasting, working at a job you love to go to, marrying someone that has you walking on air, if you want them, having kids and raising them to be great adults. what most of you r talkin about is pleasure. pleasure is not long lasting, driving a car, whatever it is, is pleasure, sex with any woman you want and lasting as long as you can is pleasure, being able to buy anything you want is pleasure, that will get old too.
i vote for no, of course its great to have nice things and have tons of money but in the end you are better off without it. finding true happiness in life is a greater wealth than any dollar amount.
Money can't buy happiness in a strict sense because happiness is not a material object (be it a Ferrari Enzo or an aspirin), but it surely is the means to achieve the material well-being necessary to achieve happiness.
We can argue that if someone would have lots of money people would not love him/her because they would only have in mind the money, etc, etc... but it's like the James Bond caracter: he's James Bond not only because he drives an Aston Martin or has lots of cool gadgets or works for the MI6, or knows how to beat the bad guys, etc... He is James Bond because he's the SUM OF ALL THOSE :wink:
If you had money and you're a decent human being, with good health, loving parents and relatives, friends, etc... I assure u you would be happier than if you were in the same situation without money.
Truth is we humans NEED material things to be happy, they surely are not the only and most important parts to achieve happiness, but without them we cannot achieve it (unless you're a buddhist monk or some guy with a really high spiritual concience and then you wouldn't be in an internet forum devoted to discuss about nice cars and share naked chicks pics :o ).
Donny
01-14-2004, 08:45 AM
I gave me a couple of nice cars. Two nice houses down by the sea, some nice watches,clothes, B&O equipment....etc.
Yes it made me happy, when I was broke it made me fairly unhappy. I could not do anything. A night out was even to expensive.
DOn
maalox
01-14-2004, 02:22 PM
Money can't buy happiness, but it can make life a hell of a lot more comfortable.
dylan99
01-14-2004, 03:55 PM
Money makes it a lot easier
jon_s
01-14-2004, 03:59 PM
Money is a major part of happiness, but not everything
Fleischmann
01-14-2004, 04:34 PM
The stuff u can nuy with money can make u happy, but it's still only "stuff" :)
corvette97
01-14-2004, 04:56 PM
yeap, but you might get bored with the "stuff", then you life is worthless, so thats why i think that the spirutial and emotional stuff comes first and then the material
SamuraiGti
01-14-2004, 09:44 PM
But you can feel spiritual and emotional with money, if you have a supercar and go to a track with him, you'll get happy! Not for always but at least in that day, or in the days that you drive it.
But money can be also a very bad thing (in case of family relations etc etc).
Balls
01-16-2004, 03:34 AM
I think the real answer is that money can make life easier. In other words, self actualization is more easily reached when there are fewer obstacles. I'm not saying that more money equates to an easier life, but at the extreme sense of poverty and wealth, you have people who struggle for the basic necessities for life and people who struggle (just as hard) for things that are not so dire.
Wow... interesting question... I could think about this forever... ERR, perhaps it would be more appropriate to say that I've never really given this any true thought. My statements above are totally raw... I'm completely open to criticism.
-Balls, whose mind is totally blown...
ambry
01-16-2004, 05:14 AM
Sure money can buy things that make you happy. But I think the most important aspect is it buys you the freedom to spend your time pursuing your own idea of happiness - instead of spending your time trying to meet your daily necessities.
Copso
01-16-2004, 05:57 AM
Sure money can buy things that make you happy. But I think the most important aspect is it buys you the freedom to spend your time pursuing your own idea of happiness - instead of spending your time trying to meet your daily necessities.
I couldn't possibly have said that it in a better way :wink:
initiala4
01-16-2004, 11:44 AM
Damn...a few people here seemed to have this question reflected upon them. For me, money can buy happiness. Think of the times that you can get money to buy your favorite car, house, or even mod it...gadgets. Perhaps also another way is..you wouldnt have to worry about bills. That is the case say if you are wanted to be solo or something like that depending on people...until you have everthing you ever wanted, money wouldnt give you happiness. It really depends on how you feel it.
Thats my give...goodluck
jinxed84
01-16-2004, 03:02 PM
i wouldnt say money can "buy" happiness, but it can sure lead to it. it opens doors to happiness, wether it be you getting a nice new enzo, or a cool house to work on, or a big boat to sail the seas. yes it cant buy love, but i think if you are happy enough in life thats a very attractive quality for women and it may lead to you meeting someone you like. so can it buy happiness? No. can it lead to it? Certainly.
good luck on your essay.
hope i could help
u think it can till a point... it can give you all the things you want.. cars (!!) houses, etc... and that will make anyone happy.. but sometimes you need more then that.. so my answer is yes, till a point...
black_magician
02-06-2004, 08:45 PM
I've heard you can't get hapiness from money. but ya know what?
Money buys me a Mclaren F1 which is directly proportional to happiness.
simple math.
ulti3mat
02-06-2004, 09:01 PM
I've thought about this subject before...I came to the conclusion that money can't buy you happiness...It might make you feel great at first but it won't keep you happy for the rest of your life...that's my opinion
PennStateFSAE
02-06-2004, 09:08 PM
Well, not having money can be pretty bad when you have no resources (like the poor in africa) or have little effect on your happiness, like the amish. The amish take as much enjoyment out of riding in a horse and buggy as we do ripping though the gears in a exotic car. I think that at the extremes (too rich or too poor) life can be pretty unhappy, if you life revolves around money it sucks but if you can eat it sucks. But of course there are exceptions all over the place.
zevolv
02-06-2004, 09:14 PM
I must say in some instances yes money does buy you happiness but it doesn't get you real friends that's why I don't ever flaunt my money most of my friends were suprised to find out I had money although my School was all rich kids mostly. Hell I drove an 7 year old car to school almost everyday. I can say that my girlfriend definitely didn't go out with me for the money. So in that case no money doesn't really buy you happiness but Damn I must say the material possesions do make me smile alot.
crasherror
02-06-2004, 10:39 PM
I think that money alone cannot bring happiness. Say you had all the money you could ever dream about and had no one to help share in your wealth. You would feel empty an hollow inside. no real sene of internal self worth. It seems to me that the world has a view that peoples only measure is their bank account, rather than their charter. So i feel that money alone will never bring you happiness. I would rather look back at my life and see the relationships i have formed with many friends, rather than look back and se a huge collection of stuff.
BaseRSX
02-06-2004, 11:26 PM
NO FUCKING WAY! NO MOTHERFUCKING WAY! True happyines does not come from material things!
Yeah that!
nchs09
02-07-2004, 12:34 AM
Money can get happines to an extent. everything has its limits of course. you can have all the things in the world and still fill empty. but in the other hand you could have everything and be full of joy. its as simple as that. when u go into philosophy and psychology, i think this question becomes more and more and more fun to discuss because What is happines, what is material things, etc etc.
read Buethios, he write about this alot .or used to since hes been dead for a while
monabonejakon2002
02-08-2004, 04:52 AM
No!
But it can buy you the things to make you happy.
Yes!
Eventually I would like to settle down and have some kids. If I'm broke, my family will most likely be unhappy thus making me unhappy.
In the end, it depends how you look at it.
yg60m
02-08-2004, 05:38 AM
Proverb : " it's better being rich and in good health than poor and sick ! " :wink:
other : " money doesn't make happiness but it contributes !".
levensnevel
02-09-2004, 07:28 AM
Well as far as I'm concerned money doesn't buy happiness, certainly not for a prolongued period of time. It just helps you to make ends meet.
Happiness is a state of mind and only be recognised if you know the other side of that coin aswell. It has very little to do with the balance of one's bank account. Much more with what you have learned to appreciate in life.
For one person that can be driving a Macca F1 around the Nordschleiffe and for someone else that can be seing a flock of swans take of from a lake in the morning mist or seing your kids playing in the sunshine.
I must say that you some of you guys arre to obsessed with luxuries like ferrari's etc .
u all might be well-fed , but just imagine living in a third world country where FOOD is also considered a luxury , i am not talking bout caviar n stuff but simple food like bread and milk .
put yourself in a positon of starvation , and the diff is that u had or had not a dollar in hand . with a dollar u can buy a loaf of bread . or just die of starvation.
then imagine this , suddenly someone gave u a dollar , will you be happy ? :wink:
just like the scenario that everytime u bring food to your dog , it wags its tail out of happiness :wink:
porsche94
02-09-2004, 01:15 PM
Nemisis8u i love your signature
and yes money can buy happiness
enzo cost money, mclaren cost money
enzo=happy, mclaren=happy
therrfore money=happiness
you couls add more things to this simple proof such as a house,food, traveling, toys,etc
coloradosilver
02-09-2004, 02:48 PM
I think that money can buy you things and take you places that can make you happy.
Sigma
02-10-2004, 10:56 PM
I think that money can give you only material things, and for many people, that´s enough....but in my point of view , I think that money really can buy you happiness
but it´ll only last a few days/months/year but not a life-time.
HeilSvenska
02-11-2004, 12:28 AM
cars make me happy and so do women.
I need money to buy cars...and the money and cars attract women for me
soooooooo i am happy thus
martin100
02-11-2004, 03:13 AM
A quote from billionaire Donald Trump - "Money cant' buy true happiness, but it does help."
IMO that´s the truth!
kteo2003
02-11-2004, 06:08 AM
if all of my family members and of course are healthy if i have true!!!!!!!!friends then money can give happiness.....only then because if you have money and one of your family is sick then what happiness?or if you have money and the only friends you have are those who want to eat money.....
and that leads to another question....how many of you do have true friends(people you can call at 3 in the morning to help you or to law you money)or at least htink they have?
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